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The discussion centers on whether school policy penalizes students for misusing pronouns and whether such penalties amount to harassment or suspension. The first speaker raises the core question: “For clarification, is this the policy that's used if a student misuses a pronoun they are suspended? An intentional. Yeah. That's part of the definition, bullying.” They illustrate the concern with a hypothetical: if a student’s parents raise their child to respond to a female with she pronouns, but that student says “I want to be something else,” will their child be suspended for that? The implication is that misusing or resisting pronoun usage could trigger disciplinary action under the policy. The chain of reasoning then states: “Oh yeah that would be harassment.” The speaker expresses disbelief upon learning that students might be suspended “because they are using the wrong pronoun,” stating they were aghast and did not realize that such suspensions occur. The subsequent line shows a pushback from another participant: “Should be disagree with you saying that's incorrect.” This introduces a contest over whether suspending for pronoun usage is correct, but the rebuttal immediately pivots to a claim about biological facts: “Well, one is biologically facts.” The conversation asserts: “It's actually XX chromosomes, XY chromosomes. Those are facts. We can't change those. It doesn't matter what our opinion is. We can't change those things.” The speaker emphasizes that these chromosomal facts are immutable. From there, the speaker clarifies their main question: “Those are immutable facts. And I'm wondering, are we what I'm asking, my question is, are we suspending students for immutable facts? That's what I'm asking. Not for making it as genuine.” In sum, the exchange presents a concern that disciplinary actions related to pronoun use might target individuals based on disagreements about gender identity and pronouns, and it juxtaposes this with a claim about immutable biological facts (XX and XY chromosomes) as a basis for questioning whether suspensions are being applied to immutable facts rather than to conduct. The dialogue frames a tension between policy definitions of harassment and a set of assertions about biological determinism, seeking to determine whether suspensions are being imposed for immutable factual claims rather than for misbehavior.

Abigail Martinez's daughter, Yaelie, faced difficulties in high school after joining the Gender and Sexuality Alliance Club. Yaelie believed her struggles were due to being transgender, but her mother disagreed. Despite her mother's objections, the state took Yaelie away, placed her in a group home, and administered testosterone. Tragically, Yaelie died by suicide while separated from her mother. Another girl named Sage from Virginia was also influenced online and through school. She was sex trafficked and abused for months before being found. Instead of returning her home, authorities placed her in a group home where she was sexually assaulted again. Sage eventually escaped but was trafficked once more before finally returning home. These stories highlight the devastating consequences of government officials supporting false gender narratives.

A 15-year-old girl was raped in a school bathroom by a boy in girls' clothes. The Loudoun County School Board covered it up to protect their transgender policy during pride month. Scott Smith, the girl's father, defended her rights at a school board meeting and was condemned internationally. The senator asks the judge if she apologizes to Scott Smith and his daughter. The judge responds that anyone has the right to protest to their school board about such a horrific crime. The senator accuses the judge of being wrong and shameful, and suggests she should resign from her position.

"Hi. Good evening. I'm a parent in the Davis Unified School District, and I'm here today to talk about the policies you have for the locker rooms in the junior high schools." "Right now, we require our students to undress for PE class." "depending on a child's transgender identity that they can pick which bathroom they want." "So we have right now at this school district, we have children self identifying into into different bathrooms just based off of No. Their You cannot." "I have my bathing suit on." "Excuse me. This this is allowed." "We're gonna recess. I'm gonna finish my comments." "So you are violating my first amendment right." "I am putting on my You are disrupt."

A kindergartener had to be kept from stepping in poop and pee because kids who identify as animals go to the bathroom on the floor. This is a real problem, not something the media is making up, and the speaker's children experience it every day. They experience transgenders and people who think they're bunny rabbits, kitty cats, and dogs. Kids meow and bark at them. One speaker says kids scratch them on the back because they identify as a cat. The governor thinks it's imaginary and not happening.

Speaker 0, identifying as the only Black lesbian in the room, asks Senator Winner a direct question about women’s safety in female-only spaces, referencing an incident at Gold’s Gym where she was attacked in a locker room by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence. She asks what Senator Winner would say to women seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who, under California law, can self-identify as women in women-only spaces. Speaker 1 responds that “we want everyone to be safe,” and notes that trans people exist as both men and women, saying, “if you're trans women or women.” He emphasizes the need to protect safety for all, acknowledging that trans women are part of the discussion. Speaker 0 continues, praising Senator Winner for housing bills and other actions, but asserts that “millions of women across America are being harassed and sexually assaulted in locker rooms.” She reiterates that she is a lesbian Black woman, not transphobic or homophobic, and stresses that some bills passed by Winner are dangerous for women and young children. She states she represents her community and urges protection for women in light of concerns about trans-inclusive policies. Speaker 2 interjects, urging Speaker 0 to allow Senator Winner to respond, while Speaker 0 reiterates the need for protection of women, specifying “Women. Women. Trans women are doing things. Women. Women.” She asserts that she was assaulted, adding, “They are not. They are men.” She describes the assailant as someone who “broke his wife’s jaw” requiring reconstructive surgery, and emphasizes her identity as a lesbian who is Black. She invites another Black woman to share her feelings, while also challenging the presence of others in the room. Speaker 1 reiterates the goal of protecting the safety of all women and acknowledges that “trans women are also brutalized in this country.” The conversation emphasizes a tension between protecting women’s safety and acknowledging the experiences of trans women, with Speaker 0 insisting, “We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that wanna say they're women. They're not women.” Speaker 2 responds by leaving, citing that the group is not protecting women, and remarks on the bills, stating she has read many of them and still finds issues “not right.” The exchange ends with Speaker 2, introducing herself as Tish Heine, and a comment about not allowing Blackness and civil rights to be used to justify laws for children to transform, followed by a remark about disparities in access to tampons versus transformation medication. The conversation also touches on broader political history, with Speaker 1 and Speaker 0 referencing political dynamics, including a note that “things were going so smoothly” before recalling an earlier moment in 2008 involving Aaron Peskin.

There are over 6,000,000 kids competing in high school sports today. The speaker questions whether the number of transgender girls participating in girls' sports constitutes a national crisis. In Florida, out of over 800,000 students participating in high school athletics, there were 13 transgender high school athletes over 8 years before the ban. The speaker suggests that the fear of transgender girls in sports is overblown, stating one is more likely to be killed by a falling object than to have their daughter compete against a transgender girl in high school sports. The speaker believes every state and school district should decide these questions for themselves, not the federal government. They celebrate transgender kids participating in sports and believe it is not a threat. The speaker accuses the resolution of being designed to distract Americans from Republicans' real agendas and build a culture of fear and mistrust.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if biological men should be able to use women's restrooms. Speaker 1 questions the relevance to immigration. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 has ever used the women's restroom, after Speaker 1 allegedly said everyone should use the other gender's bathroom today as a protest. Speaker 1 says they have not and denies advocating for men to use women's restrooms. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 regrets encouraging men to use women's restrooms and if Speaker 1 ever considered that women don't want men in their bathrooms. Speaker 0 then asks if Speaker 1 thinks it's appropriate for men to use women's restrooms because Speaker 0 believes Speaker 1 is taking rights away from underage girls.

A person is confronted and accused of being a transphobe who believes "trans kids should be cis kids." The person asks what makes a child trans and what gender is. Another person states you are born trans and gender is a spectrum, like a rainbow. A trans person says the person is playing god and "it fucks kids up." The trans person says the person should be ashamed and that they matter. The person being confronted asks someone to call the police, claiming assault. The trans person says the person is abusive and is spewing hate, not even knowing what gender is. The trans person encourages people to come down and tell the person that trans kids have rights. The person states they are waiting for police because they were assaulted.

Trans students have assaulted girls in bathrooms and locker rooms, despite claims of safety. Incidents in Virginia, California, Georgia, and Ohio show this trend. An inmate survey revealed high rates of sexual assault and violent crimes among trans individuals. Affirming gender transitions may lead to harm. The speaker challenges the audience's beliefs, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging these assaults and the consequences of denying privacy rights to women.

The speaker says some states, like California and Washington, may take children from parents who oppose gender-affirming care. They believe the trans issue played a significant role in the last election, particularly an ad criticizing Kamala Harris's stance. They claim Harris had little room to push back because gender-affirming care was mandated under a lawsuit settlement during her time as Attorney General. The speaker finds the issue of gender-affirming care for children, especially regarding age, to be complex. They admit the trans issue is relatively new to them, and they are still trying to understand aspects like pronouns. They recall an experience where their Hispanic chief of staff strongly advised against using the term "Latinx." They note that post-George Floyd and post-COVID, there was a push for more sensitivity in language and a rise in discussions around gender-affirming care, but the science around it seems contradictory.

Mister Speaker, powerful anecdotes cannot stand for the consent of another. If women feel unsafe, we should listen. Accommodating a small segment shouldn't supersede women's concerns. The consent of one person doesn't equal another's comfort in bathrooms, sports, or prisons. Nuanced conversations about respect and humanity are possible. Policies protecting women's spaces aren't transphobic. Some liberals agree but fear speaking up due to party orthodoxy silencing women. Both transgender individuals and women fear violence and disrespect. HB 148 allows localities and businesses to define sex for specific policies and isn't a "Nazi movement." Municipalities, private gyms, and prisons should, in limited cases, separate people based on biological sex. Consider the alternative viewpoint without resorting to labels like "bigot" or "transphobe" when questioning women's spaces. Representative asks if comparing bathroom policies to Jim Crow laws is fair, referencing white-passing African Americans. Representative responds that race and Jim Crow are significantly different than sex and women's private spaces.

The speaker accuses the board of inaction regarding student bathroom policies and Title 9. They claim the board can allow girls to use the staff bathroom, but hasn't. The speaker's daughter doesn't want boys watching her in the bathroom, which the speaker deems inappropriate. The speaker alleges a board member admitted their public views differ from their personal ones, calling the board unfit. They criticize board members for claiming bathroom policies aren't their job. They warn of potential dangers if boys follow girls into bathrooms. The speaker proposes creating a new bathroom or using the staff bathroom for transgender students. The speaker challenges the board to allow them to watch the board members' wives use the bathroom to expose their hypocrisy. They accuse the board of being cowards, fearing loss of federal funding. They praise one board member for standing up for the people and kids.

I want to understand your views on transgenderism. Well, historically, the body is tied to who you are. Transgender ideology is a form of Gnosticism that says your body doesn't matter. This is false, leading to the deprivation of women's rights, rapes, and the loss of sports competitions and scholarships. It also causes anxiety, depression, and suicide. Those rape cases are from cis men. As a Black trans woman, I'm not a threat. It's harmful to weaponize rhetoric against trans people. We exist, even if you deny it. If my child came out as trans, I'd tell them the truth: they're not really the gender they identify as. You'll reduce this to genitalia. Those bathroom rapes aren't committed by trans women, but cis men. There's no such thing as a trans woman. I'm looking at one right now. You don't have any talking points. In 2018 there were two rapes in bathrooms and one in Wisconsin, one in Georgia, but by cis men. The translady doth protest too much, me thinks.

A transgender activist was asked to explain the premise of the movement, but they deflected and changed the subject. The speaker believes it is their right to ask this question because there are civil rights specifically for women, such as special bathrooms and sports leagues. They argue that if men are claiming the right to enter these spaces, either all special rights for women need to be abolished or the activists need to explain how these men are actually women. The speaker is not willing to abolish women's rights and believes most women in the country feel the same way.

Beauty blockers have been used by doctors for kids experiencing precocious puberty. The conversation then shifts to transgender children, with one speaker arguing that gender affirming care is life-saving and reduces suicide rates. The other speaker questions the lack of studies on suicide rates among transgender children and argues against medical interventions like hormone therapy and surgeries. The conversation becomes heated, with one speaker claiming that transgender children don't exist and that they should be accepted as they are, while the other argues that they need medical interventions. The debate centers around the belief that transgender children are either born in the wrong body or that they should be accepted without medical interventions.

In the Sun Prairie School District in Wisconsin, a person named Raleigh shares their experience in a locker room with Leah Thomas, a biological male. Raleigh describes it as traumatizing, feeling betrayed and belittled. They express discomfort, embarrassment, and the shock of 14-year-old girls being exposed to male genitalia without consent. Raleigh explains that this situation is becoming more common, not just for them but for girls and women of all ages and sports across the country. They consider it a travesty.

Nicole Georges demanded District 109 designate locker rooms/bathrooms as biological male/female with a gender-neutral option, citing her 13-year-old daughter's distress after encountering a biological male in the girls' bathroom on February 5. She claims the school, under Principal Wegley and Joanna Ford, violated federal policy by allowing students to use facilities aligning with their gender identity. Georges filed a civil rights complaint and alleges that girls were later pressured to change in the locker room with the male student present. She believes allowing biological males access to female spaces endangers female privacy/safety. Charlie Friedman, representing Trans Upfront, stated Illinois law protects trans students' rights, citing Executive Order 2019-11 and the Illinois Human Rights Act. They stated facilities access cannot be restricted based on anatomy or chromosomal sex, and discomfort from others is not a valid reason to deny access. Friedman offered assistance to the board in upholding state law.

The issue at hand revolves around the policies and leadership that allow certain behaviors to go unchecked, such as violence and sexual assaults, while focusing on less critical matters like mask-wearing. A teenage boy attacked a girl, raising concerns about gender differences in aggression and strength. The speaker emphasizes that men and women are inherently different and that children should be allowed to make their own decisions about identity later in life. There is frustration over the media's portrayal of the incident, particularly the inconsistent use of pronouns and the perceived protection of the attacker due to their transgender status, despite a history of violence.

Beauty blockers have been used by doctors for children experiencing precocious puberty. The conversation then shifts to transgender children, with one speaker arguing that gender affirming care is life-saving and reduces suicide rates. The other speaker questions the lack of studies on suicide rates among transgender children and challenges the necessity of medical interventions such as hormone therapy and surgeries. The conversation becomes heated as they discuss the cutting off of body parts and the speaker's belief that there is no such thing as a transgender child. The debate centers around the message being sent to children and the potential harm or benefit of gender affirming care.

Mister Speaker, powerful anecdotes of one person cannot stand for the consent of another. If women feel unsafe, we should listen. Accommodating a small segment of the population shouldn't override women's concerns. The consent of one person doesn't mean another is comfortable with transgender women in bathrooms, sports, or prisons. These conversations can be nuanced; policies protecting women's spaces aren't transphobic. Some liberals agree but are silenced by the Democratic Party's orthodoxy. People fear violence and disrespect from both sides. HB one forty eight allows localities and businesses to define sex for specific policies and isn't a Nazi movement. Calling the other side Nazis doesn't help genuine questions about women's spaces. Municipalities, private gyms, and prisons should be able to separate people based on biological sex in limited circumstances. Consider the alternative side without calling them bigots or transphobes for questioning women's spaces. Representative asks if comparing bathroom bans to Jim Crow laws is fair, referencing white-passing African Americans avoiding discrimination. Speaker responds that race and Jim Crow are significantly different than sex and women's private spaces.

An 18-year-old high school student raises concerns about transgender individuals claiming to be women and using women's spaces. They mention an incident at MLK High School where a transgender woman, who is biologically male, had an altercation with a young woman. The student questions why the safety of women is being compromised by allowing mentally confused men to use women's spaces. They express that true girls like themselves, who are female down to their DNA, should have a say in this matter. The student urges action to protect the safety of women and calls on the school to address the issue. Another student shares their experience of being continuously bothered by the transgender individual and expresses frustration with the lack of action from the school.

The speaker asks if requiring women to undress in front of Leah Thomas and allowing Leah Thomas to undress in front of female athletes constitutes sexual harassment. The other speaker responds that students should not feel unsafe in any locker room. The first speaker then asks if it constitutes sexual harassment to force women to undress in front of biological males, to which the second speaker expresses concern about forcing women to undress in front of biological males. The first speaker further asks if requiring female swimmers to dress with Leah Thomas, who identifies as male, would constitute sexual harassment. The second speaker requests the question to be repeated and states that it is not a yes or no question for them.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of spreading propaganda and not providing education. Speaker 1 questions if Speaker 0 will target the transgender community next. Speaker 0 interrupts Speaker 2, apologizes, and insults Speaker 1's understanding of the topic. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0's lack of knowledge.