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The speaker questions the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks, highlighting inconsistencies in the collapse of Building 7 and mentioning evidence of controlled demolition. They mention the presence of thermitic material in the dust samples and suspicious activities related to elevator renovations prior to the attacks. The speaker also expresses feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation and mentions suppressed testimonies of firefighters regarding explosions in the buildings.

Speaker 1 discusses the collapse of building 7 and requests a video clip to be shown. Speaker 0 mentions that the collapse is not shown and suggests there might be a code preventing it. Speaker 0 also mentions that questioning the collapse of building 7 is seen as weird and can lead to job loss. Speaker 2 explains that building 7 collapsed on September 11, 2001, despite not being hit by an aircraft. The building had been damaged by debris and fire, but most of the fires were extinguished by 5:20 PM. Speaker 2 questions the official explanation that the collapse was primarily due to fire and asks for opinions on what it looks like.

The speaker discusses various controversies surrounding the 9/11 attacks. They mention how the 9/11 Commission answered questions from the public but failed to address those from the victims' families. They also highlight the destruction of important data by organizations like the DIA and SEC, and the secrecy surrounding investigations by the NIST and FBI. The speaker questions the credibility of a supposed informant and criticizes the media for presenting a one-sided narrative. They warn that anyone doubting the official story will be labeled a conspiracy theorist. The transcript ends abruptly, leaving some points unresolved.

The speaker believes 9/11 will be the biggest scandal in American history due to available recorded and personal information. They criticize reporters who label people as "conspiracy theorists," claiming agencies create conspiracies and have courses to discredit individuals. The speaker calls for a commission with people of integrity to study the facts and allow architects and firefighters to testify under oath. They allege subtle pressure exists to prevent firefighters and officers from speaking out. The speaker claims firefighters are being taken for granted and will rise up to shake the country. The speaker states that people on tape reported hearing explosions and that the buildings were designed to withstand airplane impacts. They highlight Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, imploded. The speaker recounts Oriole Palmer's ascent in one of the towers, reporting manageable fires on the 78th floor moments before the building's collapse, which they deem abnormal. The speaker suggests the collapses resembled controlled demolitions.

An individual states they didn't get rich in Congress and questions how people like Biden and Obama acquired wealth while in public service. They claim many informed individuals, including former high-ranking officials from the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, and advisors to Obama, privately believe "the 9/11 report was just silly" and a cover-up. While these individuals are aware of the truth, they are unwilling to come forward publicly. The speaker asserts their credibility on the topic, noting their long-standing involvement and endorsements from figures like Donald Rumsfeld. They reiterate that those with access to real intelligence believe there is more to the events of 9/11 than what has been disclosed.

The speaker questions the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks, pointing out inconsistencies in the collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7. They suggest controlled demolition due to the uniform collapse of Building 7 and the presence of explosive materials in the dust. The speaker also mentions suppressed testimonies of firefighters reporting explosions. They express feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation. The speaker raises concerns about the lack of proper investigation into the events of 9/11.

The interviewer confronts Larry Silverstein about conspiracy theories surrounding his comments on the collapse of Building 7 on 9/11. Silverstein's response only fuels more speculation. The interviewer questions Silverstein's claim that firefighters made the decision to "pull" the building, pointing out that the firefighters were already outside the building by then. The interviewer also mentions that the fire chief denies speaking to Silverstein on that day. Silverstein deflects the questions and suggests looking at the thousands of pages of testimony. The interviewer brings up testimony about bombs in the building before its collapse, but is interrupted and eventually asked to leave. The interviewer concludes by urging reporters to ask more questions.

The speaker witnessed the collapse of a building after a shockwave and windows breaking. In 2004, they saw Larry Silverstein on a show where he mentioned that Building 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition. The speaker contacted the History Channel to obtain a copy of the show but was told it was not available. Questions remain about whether the building's collapse was due to safety measures or the earlier attacks.

The speaker believes 9/11 will be the biggest scandal in American history due to available recorded and personal information. They accuse agencies of creating conspiracies and discrediting people as "conspiracy theorists." The speaker calls for a commission with people of integrity to study the facts and allow architects and firefighters to testify under oath. The speaker claims there's pressure on firefighters not to talk, and those who do are sidelined. They assert that people on tape reported hearing explosions during the event. They state the buildings were designed to withstand a plane impact, and that Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, imploded. The speaker recounts the story of Battalion Chief Oriole Palmer, who reached the 78th floor and reported they could handle the fires one minute before the building collapsed, which the speaker finds abnormal and unacceptable. They suggest the collapses resembled controlled demolitions.

The speaker questions the official narrative of the 9/11 attacks, pointing out inconsistencies in the collapse of the buildings. They mention the unique collapse of Building 7 and suggest controlled demolition due to the presence of explosive material in the dust. The speaker also raises concerns about the lack of investigation into reported explosions by firefighters and suspicious activities related to elevator renovations. They express feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation.

The speakers discuss the difficulty of considering alternative explanations to a prevailing narrative about a terrorist attack. They suggest that, in any ultimate scenario or alternative explanation, people are reluctant to contemplate other possibilities, and this reluctance blocks further inquiry. The conversation shifts to the idea that if the mainstream account isn’t correct—if it weren’t the crazy Islamic terrorists who had this plot that brought down the buildings—then what did happen? Speaker 0 notes that they would want to talk to experts such as structural engineers, architects, and firefighters, who “know what they're talking about.” However, these professionals do not believe the narrative at all. They reportedly lay out convincing evidence for why the narrative should not be believed, proposing explosives as an alternative explanation. The claimed evidence cited includes “explosions,” specifically “thermite, military grade, nanoparticle thermite,” and various forms of evidence such as “unexploded fragments of it” and references to “thermite and iron globules.” The discussion then turns to the question of who would have placed explosives in the buildings. Speaker 0 highlights that “nobody literally, virtually no one wants to go down that path.” The suggested question—“who would have placed explosives in those buildings?”—is described as unthinkable. The speakers acknowledge that the unthinkability functions as a defense that prevents people from asking the questions that they consider “so pressing.” The exchange ends with Speaker 0 restating the idea that the question of explosives remains a controversial or avoided line of inquiry.

I mean, if you're shorting American Airlines a week before nine eleven when no one knows it's coming, I think you should have to explain why you did that. And if you're shorting Barclays and and banks that were affected by nine eleven, why can't we know who you are? These are public markets, by the way. This is not private equity. This is publicly traded equities. So clearly, yes, there was foreknowledge. By the way, there was a team. This is according to the FBI. This is the FBI saying there was a team of clearly Intel connected foreigners who were arrested after nine eleven, as you well know, videotaping the terror attacks. I'm almost verbatim quoting from the FBI assessment of this. And the FBI determined that they apparently had foreknowledge of the attacks. So why can't we know more about that exactly? This is my country.

The speaker discusses the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on 9/11. They question the official explanation that the collapses were solely caused by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires. The speaker highlights the uniform collapse of Building 7 and suggests that controlled demolition may have been involved. They mention the presence of explosive material in the dust samples and the suspicious elevator renovation prior to the attack. The speaker also mentions suppressed testimonies from firefighters regarding explosions in the buildings. They express feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation.

The first participant asks the second to identify who did each major event. For MLK Jr., the second participant says, “That was a CI operation because they considered him a dangerous communist. And but the FBI was bugging the, in churches where he was giving some of his speeches in churches. They were bugging the podiums and following him around. He was a top target, for elimination.” For JFK, the second participant states, “I think that was a CI hit. They they may have employed some mafia connections to carry it out because that was their mafia assassination program.” Concerning LBJ, the first participant notes, “LBJ was very involved in all that in Dallas. So,” and the second participant adds, “he an evil man.” The first participant affirms, “He was an evil man.” Turning to Pearl Harbor, the second participant claims, “They knew the attack was coming was coming. They knew where it was gonna happen in Pearl Harbor and when. And they they told no one, and they let it happen on purpose. That that's from the commander of the Pacific Fleet. I would say that's a pretty pretty credible witness.” He continues, “So, yeah, that that was a false admitted that. They admitted they had the and they heard it was gonna happen. And, you how know, else were you gonna get Americans to be on the side of this war that had nothing to do with us?” This leads to the discussion of 9/11. The second participant says, “My opinion. As a criminal investigator, as a former CI officer, nine eleven was not the act of a bunch of poorly flight trained terrorists that executed an unbelievably meticulous, piloting of those aircraft, even even pilots. There's there's pilots for nine eleven truth now, and they say, we could not have done that. Not possible.” He adds, “And then we go to the passport issue, and we go to the Tower 7, which was a controlled demolition.” The second participant further asserts, “You talk to any structural engineer, and and and I I have. And the fact I think George w Bush blacked out. I think it was 40 pages of the 09/11 report dealing with Saudi Arabia. So what wait a minute. This report was supposed to be for the American people on what happened, and you blacked all these pages out? What in the world?” He continues, “I do not think that it was a bunch of un poorly trained or untrained terrorists that did it. I think there was another source behind it. I think it was intentional, and I'm going just from a a criminal invest investigative perspective just looking at the evidence, what evidence we have, that that was an intentional act, And it would fall right into the MO that you and I are talking about.” He concludes that the event was “Horrible” and emphasizes that “the shadow government deep state or especially the CIA. It does not matter. Their pawns on their chessboard, they don't care that three thousand people were horribly killed that day, but it achieved the aim of gutting the US constitution, bringing in the horrific Patriot Act Mhmm. Giving the CIA unthinkable authority for secret prison prisons and torture beyond waterboarding and and secret renditions and all of that, the FBI, the ability to to, spy on Americans came out of the Patriot Act. So it was the perfect national security state, energizer that the Patriot Act was, and 70 of the congressmen and senators that read the Patriot Act didn't even read it. They just signed off on it without even reading the bill.”

The central question is, 'was there foreknowledge?' The speaker notes 'there were huge bets put in the public financial markets against shorting the airlines involved in nine eleven and the banks and the buildings that were collapsed.' The FBI 'found out who made those trades and has hidden the names for twenty four years.' He argues the investigation should be real: 'The first one by Philip Zellico was fake, and he was basically just a cutout for Condie Rice, the former National Security Advisor.' He advocates 'a new commission, a real one,' because 'America was changed completely by that day.' He calls for action: 'we're gonna actually chain ourselves to the gates of the FBI until you tell us this.' He says it's 'the most second most important thing that happened' after 'killing president Kennedy,' noting a cover-up and possible foreign involvement, though not conclusive.

Speaker 0 asks if the government was involved in the 9/11 attack and if there is a conspiracy. Speaker 1 disagrees, but believes it's the first time fire has melted steel. They mention the collapse of World Trade Center 7 and suggest it couldn't have fallen without explosives. Speaker 0 asks who is responsible, and Speaker 1 admits they don't know but insists it was an implosion. They suggest looking at films and consulting physics experts to understand. Speaker 1 says it's unthinkable, but if someone could prove it, it would be significant.

The speaker questions the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks, focusing on the collapse of Building 7. They argue that the building's uniform collapse indicates controlled demolition rather than fire damage. Comparing it to a stack of cast iron stoves, they suggest that the intact structure below should have slowed the collapse. The speaker believes there is more to the story than just planes and fire.

Former Pennsylvania GOP rep Kurt Weldon is calling for a Trump administration investigation into 9/11, claiming it will be the "biggest scandal in American history." He questions the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings, noting they are the only high-rises to ever collapse from airplane impacts, and that they were designed to withstand such impacts. A firefighter who ascended to the 78th floor of one of the towers reported two controllable fires moments before the building's collapse. Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, also collapsed. An insurance expert stated that a 47-story building doesn't just collapse from fire. A BBC report announced the collapse of the Salomon Brothers building (WTC 7) while it was still standing in the background. Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, stated that "they made the decision to pull Building 7," implying a controlled demolition. The speaker suggests that the truth about 9/11 could change the country, referencing the Patriot Act and TSA checkpoints as consequences of the event.

The speaker claims that a year before 9/11, they identified every Al Qaeda cell, including the New York cell, but the Able Danger team was stopped from sharing this information with the FBI three times. They assert that former FBI Director Louie Free stated this information could have prevented 9/11. They also allege that after criticizing the agency, the Pentagon's inspector general, John Crane, filed a whistleblower paper claiming he was told to lie to Congress. The speaker calls the 9/11 Commission a "cover-up," led by Philip Zelikow, who was allegedly handpicked by Condoleezza Rice. They claim Zelikow shut down Tony Schaeffer's office and tried to destroy his career after Schaeffer met with him in Afghanistan and had information about 9/11 in advance. The speaker states that the government bought and destroyed all copies of Schaeffer's book, "Dark Heart," because it named Zelikow. They also claim that the intelligence they received as vice chairman of a committee was not solid, and they formed a network of intelligence agency insiders who fed them raw data. They allege that intelligence agencies manipulate the media and play games with Congress. The speaker believes that some individuals within these agencies have become wealthy through their positions. They claim that after speaking out, the FBI raided their daughter's house, leading to their electoral defeat. They felt responsible for 9/11 because they knew it could have been prevented.

We saw a building collapse after a shockwave ripped through it, and Larry Silverstein mentioned in a TV show that Building 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition. He stated that the decision to "pull it" was made due to safety concerns. The speaker contacted the History Channel about the show but was told it was not available to the public. The cause of Building 7's collapse remains uncertain, whether it was intentional or a result of the earlier attacks.

Speaker 1 claims a legitimate investigation into 9/11 never occurred and questions how the perpetrators were identified so quickly. Speaker 1 alleges the Bush administration ignored intelligence, suggesting they wanted the attacks to happen, citing Condoleezza Rice's memo from August 6, which stated Bin Laden planned to use steel planes to attack buildings. Speaker 1 states that every war starts with a false flag operation. Speaker 1 references a BBC report that allegedly broadcast the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 before it actually happened, claiming the reporter spoke of the collapse 27 minutes before it occurred.

The speaker questions the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks, focusing on the collapse of Building 7. They argue that the building's collapse was not due to fire but rather controlled demolition, citing evidence such as the presence of explosive material in dust samples and reports of unusual elevator renovations prior to the attacks. The speaker also mentions suppressed testimonies from firefighters about explosions in the building. They express feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation.

In the discussion, the collapse of Building 7 is debated through direct claims by several speakers. Speaker 0 states, "I saw Building 7 come down, and it was a controlled demolition. A classic controlled demolition." Speaker 1 counters with skepticism, arguing that "That building had no reason to come down. There's no history of a high rise fire and a fireproof resulting in failure of the building because the building is, in New York City, parlance, a class one, which is a single word, fireproof." The exchange shifts toward accountability and transparency. Speaker 2 asserts, "I demand to know, as should everyone, especially the media, why important testimony from made that day from over a 150 police, firefighters, and first responders regarding explosions wasn't included in the commission report nor investigated further." The conversation then moves to specific explosive claims. Speaker 3 contends, "It was a secondary explosion, probably a device either planted before or on the aircraft that did not explode until a hour later. I'm gonna call the vehicle right now. You gotta get back to me. Five minutes and the elevators exploded on us." A sense of urgency and confusion is conveyed, with a voice adding, "We we we we said something's wrong here. I mean, the plane hit up on the Eightieth Floor. I mean, fuck. In five minutes, all of a sudden, now the elevator's exploding on the first level in the lobby?" Personal losses and the human cost are underscored. Speaker 0 reflects on the impact on his own life, saying, "And it's the first thing I think of when I get up in the morning, and it's the last thing at night before I go to bed. I lost Tommy O'Hagan, Kenny Kompel, and Bruce Van Hynes that day." The conversation culminates with a tribute to fallen colleagues. Speaker 2 notes, "343 firefighters, including three of my good friends, Thomas Hetzel, Bobby Evans, and Mike Keefer, perished that day. And these were some of the best and the bravest people in the world. And they, along with the rest of those who were murdered and died horrible deaths, deserve justice."

Speaker 0: Alleging not simply a cover up by the US government, but by the entire American media. It's totally implausible. Like, we would report that if that were true. Building 7 was not hit by an airplane. Speaker 3: That's seen Building 7 collapse, the Sallon Brothers building? No. I wanna show you that right now. Speaker 4: Now here, we're gonna show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Describe that feeling. Now we go to videotape the collapse of this building. It's amazing. Amazing. Speaker 3: I t's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately store destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down. No plane hit that building. Speaker 6: Well, it starts with Building 7. Yes. Where you look at that and it just yeah. I mean, this this is really weird. You know, it it does come down just like a, you know, building demolition type of project. When you start putting together at what temperature steel melts. They had molten steel in the twin towers, and I'm not sure we had a number seven. Speaker 0: I never questioned anything about nine eleven, and I actively attacked people who did. I'm ashamed of that, but that's a fact. Speaker 6: And, of course, the Overton window is is is is about this is what you can discuss without threat or without, you know, risk. And but you gotta go beyond that. Speaker 0: What began to make me wonder, I have no idea what happened in 09/11, but it's very clear that there's a lot of lying around it, was the collapse of Building 7. Speaker 0: because I was part of the cover up, and I feel guilty about it. That's why. And I'm trying to atone for my previous sense. That's the real reason. Speaker 0: I did it on tape more than once because my feeling was, well, you know, like, that's divisive or whatever. I was a child and an idiot.

The discussion centers on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11, which was not hit by a plane. A video clip shows the building's collapse, described as reminiscent of a controlled demolition. One speaker recalls news reports announcing the building's collapse before it happened. Another speaker, with a background in fire protection and insurance, states that a 47-story building doesn't typically collapse due to fire. One speaker admits to previously attacking 9/11 conspiracy theorists but now questions the official narrative, particularly regarding Building 7. An Alaskan structural engineering professor's four-year study allegedly debunks the NIST analysis of the collapse. Molten steel was reportedly present in the Twin Towers. The symmetrical nature of Building 7's collapse is questioned, with one speaker suggesting it resembles a controlled demolition. One speaker suggests they broadened the Overton window on the topic because they were part of the cover-up and feel guilty.