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The speaker asserts that certain actions were deliberate and denies using hand signals on that day, noting that no hand signals were used except the general ones, and that while some people, like Frank Turk, were “messing with him because he adjusted his hat,” such incidents were part of a broader pattern where “everybody’s subject to that.” The point is that there is manipulation and opposition, and the speaker acknowledges that there are things larger than individuals that are in operations, even if he is not a conspiracy theorist. A central theme is the First Amendment and its intended purpose. The speaker explains that the First Amendment is important because “a voice is in arms for people that don't have arms,” allowing a collective or single voice to challenge a powerful hierarchy. It should be used as a shield to protect speech. However, with modern media and social media, the right has, in his view, been weaponized as a sword of public opinion. People can put out “a bunch of lies” and claim the First Amendment, asserting whatever they want, and it no longer functions solely as protection but can be a tool to push false narratives. He criticizes the proliferation of misinformation—examples like “Palm gun, exploding microphone, hand signals” are cited as items that may be false or sensationalized—and emphasizes that truth is not required for public opinion to take hold. The speaker suggests a return to consequences for false statements, advocating a more immediate response similar to the past: “put those people in the way back machine” to 1985, when if someone said something untrue about you or your family and others heard it, there would be an immediate consequence (a split lip), not a lawsuit several years later. This, he implies, would instill a level of respect and deter repeat offenses. He argues that sometimes people need to be punished in the moment to maintain accountability, even as he acknowledges the desire to balance free speech with consequences. Overall, the speaker weaves together a defense of the First Amendment, a critique of today’s information environment, and a provocative call for a return to quicker, tangible consequences for false or harmful statements, framed within a belief that larger forces operate beyond individual actions.

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Speaker 0 argues that it is difficult to hear, but it is time to limit the First Amendment in order to protect it. They state that we need to control the platforms—specifically all social platforms—and to stack rank the authenticity of every person who expresses themselves online. They say we should take control over what people are saying based on that ranking. The government should check all the social media.

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"Today's misinformation is always tomorrow's truth. It's always the government who wants to censor people who are critical of the government." "Europe is trying to police everyone and shake down American tech companies, which is exactly what the digital markets act looked like. That is what's at stake here, and that is not how our First Amendment works." "Everything our government here in The United States told us about COVID turned out to be false. If you criticize any of the things they initially told you, you had to be censored." "When Elon bought Twitter, now it's a place where the first amendment and free speech are right where they need to be." "The spillover effect it can have on, American content being seen by European users." "The answer to stupid speech, bad speech, and wrong speech is more speech." "the hallmark of Western culture is free expression." "There were 12,183 arrests for offensive post online." "Global Alliance for Responsible Media." "Disinformation governance board."

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Prominent Democrats, including John Kerry, Tim Wallace, and Hillary, are allegedly saying that the First Amendment is a bad thing. These top-level Democrats view the First Amendment as an obstacle. The frequent use of the word "disinformation" is an indication that the speaker believes these individuals are creating disinformation. Those trying to suppress freedom of speech are considered the "bad guys." It is astonishing that this is happening in America in 2024.

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Well, there's free speech, but then there's also hate speech, and woe to those who engage in it because it's a crime. That's a lie, and it's a lie that denies the humanity of the people you're telling it about. And so any attempt to impose hate speech laws in this country, and trust me, there are a lot of people who would like them. There are a lot of people who'd like to codify their own beliefs by punishing those under The US code who disagree with their beliefs. Any attempt to do that is a denial of the humanity of American citizens and cannot be allowed under any circumstances. That's got to be the red line.

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The problem of fake news is not solved by a referee, but by participants helping each other point out what is fake and true. The answer to bad speech is not censorship, but more speech. Critical thinking matters more than ever, given that lies seem to be getting very popular.

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The speaker expresses concern about the shift in the left's stance on free speech, noting that censorship goes against the principles of the First Amendment. They highlight the importance of free speech, citing the historical context of countries where speaking freely was not allowed. The speaker mentions that speech laws in some countries, like England and France, are more restrictive. They argue that even though they find certain speech abhorrent, it should still be protected under free speech. The speaker emphasizes the need to protect free speech, as censorship can eventually affect everyone.

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Prominent Democrats, including John Kerry, Tim Wallace, and Hillary, are allegedly saying that the First Amendment is a bad thing. These top-level Democrats view the First Amendment as an obstacle. The frequent use of the word "disinformation" is an indication that the speaker believes these individuals are creating disinformation. Those trying to suppress freedom of speech are considered the "bad guys." It is astonishing that this is happening in America in 2024.

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The speaker claims they are attacked for not believing in democracy, but the most sacred right in the U.S. democracy is the First Amendment. They state that Kamala Harris wants to threaten the power of the government, and there is no First Amendment right to misinformation. The speaker believes big tech silences people, which is a threat to democracy. They want Democrats and Republicans to reject censorship and persuade one another by arguing about ideas. The speaker references yelling fire in a crowded theater as the Supreme Court test. They accuse others of wanting to kick people off Facebook for saying toddlers shouldn't get masks.

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Speaker 0: Zuckerberg claims to be an old-fashioned liberal who dislikes censorship, but why doesn't Facebook take a similar stand on free speech? It seems rooted in American political tradition. Speaker 1: Zuckerberg reportedly spent $400 million in the last election, primarily supporting Democrats. This raises questions about his impartiality.

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Power corrupts. “Power corrupts. We’ve seen that all across the world.” “Today’s misinformation is always tomorrow’s truth.” and “It’s always the government who wants to censor people who are critical of the government.” He contrasts US free speech with Europe’s clampdown, arguing that “When Elon bought Twitter, now it's a place where the first amendment and free speech are right where they need to be,” while Europe’s “Online Safety Act” and “EU’s Digital Services Act” aim to “shake down American tech companies,” a policy stance he says is “not how our First Amendment works.” He cites UK “12,183 arrests for offensive post online,” Heathrow detentions of a comedian, and Poland for “liking a video,” urging press transparency: “the answer to stupid speech, bad speech, and wrong speech is more speech,” and suggesting remedies: “highlight the facts out there, and you show how ridiculous it is,” plus trade talks and potential sanctions on Ofcom. He references the “disinformation governance board,” the “GARM” debate, and the spillover effect on American content.

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The government crossed a bright red line when it suppressed scientific and policy discussions during COVID, treating dissenting voices as akin to those of international terrorists. This suppression is wrong; free speech, allowing debate among scientists, policymakers, and the public, is a fundamental American norm. The government's actions prevented this debate, leading to harmful lockdown policies, vaccine mandates, job losses, prolonged school closures, and economic devastation. This censorship, ironically, cost lives. Contrary to claims that free speech is dangerous during a pandemic, upholding the First Amendment would have saved lives and reduced the damage and destruction we experienced.

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"A human being with a soul, a free man, has a right to say what he believes, not to hurt other people, but to express his views." "that thinking that she just articulated on camera there is exactly what got us to a place where some huge and horrifying percentage of young people think it's okay to shoot people you disagree with, to kill Nazis for saying things they don't like." "Well, there's free speech which of course we all acknowledge is important so so important." "But then there's this thing called hate speech." "Hate speech, of course, is any speech that the people in power hate, but they don't define it that way." "They define it as speech that hurts people, speech that is tantamount to violence." "And we punish violence, don't we? Of course, we do."

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The speaker criticizes the media and their desire for censorship. They argue that the left defines "disinformation" as any information that conflicts with their ideology. They mention Francis Fukuyama, a respected historian, who suggests rethinking the First Amendment. The speaker claims that those in power frame censorship as combating bad ideas, but it is really about maintaining control. They argue that power is the only principle that matters to those in the hierarchy.

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Innovation and creativity cannot be forced, much like thoughts and beliefs. Looking at Europe, it's concerning to see actions like EU commissars threatening to shut down social media for "hateful content," police raids for "anti-feminist" comments, and the conviction of a Christian activist for Quran burnings. Even more alarming is the UK, where a man was charged for silently praying near an abortion clinic, and Scotland warned citizens that private prayer within their homes could be illegal. Free speech is retreating across Europe. Ironically, the loudest voices for censorship sometimes come from my own country. The prior administration bullied social media companies to censor "misinformation," like the lab leak theory of the coronavirus. In Washington, under Donald Trump's leadership, we will defend your right to speak freely, even if we disagree with your views.

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The speaker discusses the issue of lifetime bans for individuals who have apologized for their offensive remarks. They argue that the focus should be on censorship rather than the specific case of Alex Jones. The speaker mentions how defenders of free speech warned that banning Jones could set a dangerous precedent, and this prediction came true when Twitter started banning other individuals, such as a Stanford doctor who had made accurate statements about COVID. The speaker believes that creating censorship power attracts powerful entities, like the government, who can abuse it. They emphasize the importance of free speech, even if it means tolerating wrong or hateful speech and misinformation.

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The speaker believes there have been attacks on the Constitution, particularly the First Amendment, with Democrats claiming it enables disinformation. The speaker argues the First Amendment exists because the founders came from countries where free speech was punished. The speaker asserts the Second Amendment is there to stop tyranny and protect freedom of speech. They have debated this, especially with people in LA who want to take away guns. The speaker asks if anyone can guarantee the U.S. will never have a tyrannical government, and since no one can, people need to keep their guns to prevent it.

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**Speaker 2 (Michael Shellenberger):** Many of us were shocked by Vance's speech, but I think it's long overdue. Americans deeply value freedom of speech, and we question our alliance when European judges try to censor our speech and social media platforms. America is tired of being the world's police officer, and our patience is tested when Europe seems to turn against enlightenment values like free speech. The only solution to misinformation is accurate information through free debate. **Speaker 3 (Natalie Tucci):** I don't believe there has been an erosion of free speech in Europe, and I don't think what we heard from the US Vice President has much to do with free speech. Vance's rhetoric sounds like the Russian playbook, turning arguments about democracy on their head. His meeting with Alice Weidel suggests election interference and support for far-right parties, which could end liberal democracy and European integration.

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Sarah was criticized by MSNBC hosts for defending free speech and voting rights. In response, it’s inappropriate and undemocratic to suggest punishing individuals or businesses for their political views. Such ideas reflect a fascist mentality. Even if I disagree with someone like Mark Cuban, I would never advocate for penalizing his business due to his political stance. We need free and fair elections and to ensure that all voices are heard within the law. It’s essential to address any unfairness while maintaining a public discourse that respects free speech for everyone.

The Megyn Kelly Show

CBS vs. Free Speech, Elon Baby Drama, and Shocking Plane Crash, with Knowles, Taibbi, and Kirn
Guests: Matt Taibbi, Michael Knowles, Walter Kirn
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Megyn Kelly announces the launch of a new podcast called the AM Update, which will provide a 15-minute summary of the day’s top stories to help listeners start their mornings informed. This initiative is in response to audience requests for concise news updates. The podcast will be available on SiriusXM and various podcast platforms. The discussion then shifts to JD Vance's recent speech in Europe, where he emphasized the importance of free speech and criticized the erosion of democratic values in Europe. Michael Knowles argues that the media misrepresented Vance's message, framing it as a call to support far-right parties while ignoring the broader context of free speech rights being undermined. He highlights that the left's reaction to Vance's speech reflects a fear of losing political control as citizens increasingly turn to right-wing alternatives due to dissatisfaction with current governance. Megan and Michael discuss a recent 60 Minutes segment that portrayed Germany's strict free speech laws in a sympathetic light, contrasting it with the American perspective on free speech. They critique the lack of critical voices in the segment and the media's tendency to downplay the implications of such censorship. They argue that the establishment media's approach to free speech issues is misguided and fails to recognize the dangers of suppressing dissenting opinions. The conversation also touches on the backlash against the Associated Press for being excluded from certain press events during the Trump administration. Megan and her guests argue that the AP's claims of censorship are exaggerated, pointing out that they still have access to cover the White House. They discuss the broader implications of media access and the relationship between journalists and political power. The episode concludes with a discussion about a recent plane crash in Toronto, where all 80 passengers survived despite the aircraft flipping upside down upon landing. Aviation experts analyze the incident, attributing the hard landing to a high rate of descent and challenging weather conditions. They emphasize the importance of pilot training and experience, particularly in managing landings under adverse conditions. The experts express gratitude for the survival of all passengers and highlight advancements in aircraft safety that contributed to the positive outcome.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #2211 - Michael Shellenberger
Guests: Michael Shellenberger
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Michael Shellenberger discusses his recent experiences in Brazil, particularly regarding the Twitter Files and extreme censorship in the country. He highlights the actions of a Brazilian Supreme Court justice who has been demanding bans on journalists and politicians from all social media platforms, a tactic reminiscent of military censorship operations. The Brazilian public reacted with large protests advocating for free speech, which Shellenberger found inspiring. Rogan and Shellenberger delve into the implications of censorship, particularly in the context of misinformation surrounding COVID and elections. They discuss the arbitrary nature of bans on individuals, citing specific cases where politicians were deplatformed for supposedly spreading misinformation. Shellenberger expresses disappointment in Brazilian President Lula for supporting censorship, contrasting it with his earlier views of Lula as a proponent of democratic socialism. The conversation shifts to broader themes of censorship, free speech, and the changing political landscape, with Shellenberger reflecting on how the left's stance on free speech has evolved. They discuss the historical context of censorship and the importance of protecting free speech as a fundamental right. As the discussion progresses, they touch on the topic of UFOs and government secrecy. Shellenberger reveals that he has been investigating whistleblower claims regarding UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and the government's alleged cover-up of information. He mentions a new whistleblower who has provided credible reports about a secret UAP program, suggesting that the Pentagon is withholding significant information from Congress. Rogan and Shellenberger explore the implications of such secrecy, considering the potential societal impact of revealing the truth about extraterrestrial life. They discuss the fear that such revelations could provoke, including the collapse of societal norms and the challenge to established beliefs. The conversation concludes with reflections on the nature of truth, the role of government in managing information, and the importance of transparency in a democratic society. Shellenberger emphasizes the need for stronger whistleblower protections and accountability within government agencies, advocating for a more open dialogue about UAPs and other critical issues facing society today.

Breaking Points

Comedian Calls Out Right-Wing Comics On Kimmel Controversy
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Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension and rapid reversal become a flashpoint for free expression, media power, and the influence of corporate ownership. Adomian argues the cancellation was illegitimate and tied to broader signals of censorship as political actors push back against dissent. He recalls a trip with a burner phone and references to Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, and Project 2025 signaling constitutional sidelining. Those figures allegedly telegraphed moves, faced a setback, and a warning against complacency against authoritarian tactics. He also humanizes Kimmel, praising him as a generous boss who supported staff during the COVID years, making the layoffs feel personal and a test of loyalty within a large media ecosystem. The episode underscores ongoing internal censorship and the chilling effect on creative voices when networks bow to political pressure. The broader debate centers on free speech as practiced within entertainment and politics, with Adomian arguing some conservatives weaponize it while platforms steer audiences through algorithms.

Mark Changizi

Free expression is the battle of our generation
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The left views allowing free speech for opponents as authoritarian, with 48% believing figures like Trump shouldn't have a voice. This sentiment extends to government actions, as the Biden administration allegedly coordinates with big tech to censor dissenting opinions, reflecting a troubling cultural divide.

Modern Wisdom

Andrew Doyle - Free Speech And Why It Matters | Modern Wisdom Podcast #283
Guests: Andrew Doyle
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Free speech is the foundation of all freedoms and essential for personal and social liberty. It allows individuals to express thoughts and ideas, fostering innovation and personal autonomy. Criticism and protest in response to speech are also forms of free speech, and the right to express oneself does not equate to a demand for consequence-free speech. Misconceptions about free speech often arise from a misunderstanding of its principles, leading to straw man arguments that misrepresent the debate. The current climate shows a shift where calls for censorship often come from the left, contrasting with past trends where the right was more censorious. This change is linked to the social justice movement, which conflates speech with violence and seeks to control narratives. Critics of free speech often misinterpret criticism as censorship, failing to recognize that criticism is part of the discourse. Cancel culture is a real phenomenon where individuals face severe repercussions for perceived offenses, often based on misinterpretations. The discussion emphasizes the need for open dialogue and the importance of addressing conflicts directly rather than resorting to public shaming. The idea of criminalizing thoughts is dystopian, and while people should be mindful of their words, the state should not dictate permissible speech. The conversation also touches on the role of big tech in moderating speech, arguing that these platforms should be held accountable as publishers if they editorialize content. The discussion concludes with a warning against the dangers of identity politics and the need for a return to objective truth in discourse, emphasizing that free speech must be defended even when it involves unpleasant ideas.

Breaking Points

Hillary: Young Jews TRICKED By Pro-Palestine TikTok
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In this interview, Sami Hamdi, a British journalist detained by ICE after a controversial social media clip, recounts a dramatic confrontation over free speech, media narratives, and US policy toward Israel. He describes traveling on a ten-year B1/B2 visa to speak at American universities about Palestine, only to have his visa suddenly revoked after a clip circulated by Laura Loomer and amplified by a right-wing network. Hamdi claims the action was motivated not by any legal misstep, but by a political desire to suppress dissenting views about Israel’s conduct and the Gaza war. He details the six-hour detention, the denial of access to a lawyer at the outset, and subsequent expedited release after federal judges noted serious breaches of freedom of speech. Throughout, he argues that a powerful Israeli lobby has sought to narrow American discourse by targeting students, activists, and even naturalized citizens, pushing the narrative that criticism of Israel is illegitimate. He contends the broader problem is not individual remarks but a coordinated effort to control information and steer public opinion, including debates over platforms like TikTok. He concludes that the real threat to American freedoms comes from attempts to police speech in the name of national security or solidarity with foreign interests, and he frames his case as a symbol of a wider struggle for media independence and constitutional rights.
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