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The speaker recalls that Charlie once said, "guns save lives after school shooting" and was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd in the hands of Minneapolis police, "you called him a scumbag." They note that Charlie also "downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in this country, by saying Juneteenth should never exist." The speaker counters that many claim he only wanted a civil debate, a complete rewriting of history. "Yeah, there is nothing more effed up than to completely pretend that, you know, his words and actions have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so."

Charlie Kirk was just shot and has now passed away while he was debating at the Utah Valley College. This happened during a live stream; the speaker was editing a video and about to upload it, and is stunned. The speaker questions, "For speaking the truth?" and asks, "Are you fucking kidding me right now?" The channel is described as not political, focused on positivity, makeup, sarcasm, jokes, trolling, clapping back, being fun. The speaker says Charlie Kirk was a grown man who fought for the truth, who went all around our country debating people, debating people of all walks of life, walks of religion, walks of duality. "He debated everybody." The speaker admonishes viewers who say it wasn't the truth, calling them delusional, and notes, "Why did I respect him? Because he knows reality."

Charlie Kirk sent me a direct message almost six years ago: 'Three words, you are terrific.' I had fewer than 10,000 followers, and he invited me to the BLS, which is the black leadership summit Turning Point USA was putting on in Washington DC. He said there were scholarships and to email him directly; I couldn't fund the trip. That’s the story of how I got to be part of the Young Black Leadership Summit. If he was a racist person, why would he do that? They call me racist myself. They want you to believe Charlie Kirk hated all black people. He saw the best in everyone and saw in me something I didn’t quite see in myself, and he chose to encourage me. That is why I will continue the work he started. We all have microphones; we are all Charlie Kirk.

- the truly earth shattering and transformative event of Charlie Kirk's assassination - one of the main controversies today as part of the fallout of that memorial service - to express forgiveness for the person who took her husband's life - Ultimately, he was a Christian evangelist. - to talk about Charlie's life and the values that he represented - This was not some scripted speech. - The phraseology wasn't constructed in advance. - Polling data shows support for Israel unraveling - They wrote a letter to Fox News to the Murdoch family, condemning Tucker Carlson's impassioned defense of a quote, race replacement theory, and demanding that he'd be fired. - Cut Tucker loose.

The transcript centers on a critical clash over Candace Owens, TP USA, and allegations surrounding Charlie Kirk’s murder investigation, focusing on Fort Huachuca, alleged alibis, and competing narratives presented by Candace Owens and her critics. - The speaker positions himself as having known and supported Candace Owens for ten years, but challenges her latest claims, calling them “ridiculous gaslighting” and “nonsense,” and promises to lay out the facts and where they land. - The ongoing dispute involves “Egyptian planes,” a “latest so-called witness and whistleblower,” Mitch Snow, and a broader question about possible foreign or domestic involvement in Charlie Kirk’s murder, which is tied to a Fort Huachuca narrative. - Mitch Snow is alleged to have claimed that he saw Brian Harpole leaving a meeting at Fort Huachuca on September 9, and also claimed that Erica Kirk was at Fort Huachuca the night before, at Candlewood Inn and Suites. Owens had hosted Snow’s claims as part of her investigation, and the speaker had previously advised Candace to check alibis. - Candace Owens’ supporters and surrogates allegedly attacked the speaker after he questioned the alibis; he persisted in investigating, noting that the Fort Huachuca storyline had “completely blown up” with those alibis. - The narrative shifts to Erica Kirk, with Owens stating she had claimed she did not say the military was involved and did not implicate TP USA, despite compilations of past statements suggesting otherwise. The speaker contends Owens moved the goalposts multiple times and used the Fort Huachuca angle as a distraction from a prior Egyptian plane storyline. - The speaker asserts exclusive access to HD screenshots from Andrew Colvin, the TP USA spokesperson, which purportedly show that Owens’ depiction of Andrew Colvin’s involvement in “secret damage control” is a fraud. He claims to reveal that Colvin was coordinating with Paramount Tactical, not Owens directly, and that Colvin reached out to Owens’ team with alibi requests regarding Erica Kirk. - A key incident involves a screenshot and a time-stamped image Erica Kirk allegedly sent to Colvin showing her with her kids at 08:33, purportedly from Phoenix, which Owens used as part of her alibi apparatus. The speaker presents this as evidence that Colvin’s communications were not a cover-up but a regular PR exercise, and that Owens used the image to claim a broader conspiracy. - The speaker narrates a back-and-forth where Colvin allegedly provided an alibi for Erica Kirk; he shows that Kirk sent photos from a park and home, and Colvin responded three hours later, asking not to display the photo publicly but to acknowledge the proof. Owens denies the alibi and reframes it as desperate behavior by TP USA. - The discussion expands to broader personnel and planes-related details: an undersecretary of the army allegedly went to Fort Huachuca on the eighth; a defense department border inspection visit is cited as context for why Fort Huachuca is significant. The speaker emphasizes that the focus should be on the ninth and the alleged base alibis, not the eighth. - The speaker accuses Owens of simulating a “gaslighting operation” and notes that she has discredited alibis by shifting attention to new claims; he maintains that the “ninth” is the core question, not the earlier Fort Huachuca references. - The narrative includes a conflict with commentators such as Alex Jones, Charlie Kirk, and The Daily Wire, and alleges that Owens’ circle has manipulated public perception to undermine TP USA and Charlie Kirk. - The speaker concludes with a denunciation of Owens’ tactics, insisting that the public should focus on the Charlie Kirk murder case and its true facts, while alleging Owens uses a pattern of deception, moving from one narrative to another to distract from the nine’s alleged details. He calls for prayer for Candace Owens and urges supporters to consider the broader battle against perceived globalist manipulation; he also frames this as a spiritual or existential conflict in which truth is being contested. Note: Promotional or advertising content included toward the end of the original transcript has been omitted.

Speaker 0 notes they’ve faced attacks followed by calls to unite, asking, 'Is it is it still time to come together, Jack? Are are these people capable of coming together with?' Speaker 1 recounts a friend who tried to talk to them and was killed 'in cold blood.' Charlie tried sitting down and having conversations, and many people came; thousands came. But there is 'a social cancer, a cancerous ideology that is spread throughout this country.' It's gone mainstream, acting as if 'they are completely dissociated with humanity.' Shunning family members, canceling, and censorship are linked, and it 'ended with my friend shot on campus.' Speaker 0: 'We should have put our foot down a long time ago,' perhaps when they glorified Luigi for sticking a bullet in the back of the guy's head at 6AM. 'Thanks for coming on, and thanks for carrying Charlie's torch for all of us.'

Speaker 0 discusses the value of open debate and denouncing tactics used by some to shut down discussion. He references Charlie Kirk’s public life and the speech he asked him to deliver earlier this year, noting that Kirk died for the belief in the importance of debate. He explains that, in the months leading up to his final days, Kirk devoted effort to arguing about the event and the speech, and that he faced immense pressure from donors to remove him from Turning Point’s roster. The speaker asserts that Kirk stood firm in his belief that people should be able to debate, and that if you have something valid to say or are telling the truth, you should be able to explain it calmly and in detail to people who disagree, rather than resorting to silencing or questioning motives. He criticizes the tendency to label questions as indicative of evil or to accuse others of motives, noting how “shut up racist” has become a prevailing, harmful reaction. He states that this phrase was the number one reason he voted for Donald Trump. He emphasizes that if he were a racist or bigot, he would acknowledge it, noting that in America one is allowed to be whatever kind of person one wants, but he is opposed to racism and bigotry. He argues that the style of debate that obstructs the other side from talking by quickly appealing to motive is corrosive, and he questions the usefulness of such questioning practices. The speaker insists he’s grown tired of that approach and believes they’ve reached the end of it. He states clearly that he will not play by those rules, and he will express his views regardless of others’ disapproval, as long as he has the opportunity to speak. He reiterates that if someone doesn’t like his views, that’s fine, but he intends to express them openly. In closing, he reiterates his commitment to speaking his mind and not engaging in the silencing tactics he condemns.

Speaker describes a moment of divine presence and honors Charlie Kirk as a Christian evangelist. He recalls "two thousand years ago in Jerusalem" when Jesus tells the truth about power; "they hate it," and voices say, "we must make him stop talking" and, "Why don't we just kill him?"—"It doesn't work that way." He adds, "Everything is inverted, and the beatitudes tell it." He notes "Blessed are those who mourn for they will be comforted." Charlie’s message was to bring the gospel to the country and call for repentance: "the only real solution is Jesus." He contrasts "Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other people and getting them to change" with "Christianity... begins with repentance." The Lord's prayer idea: "forgive us our sins" and "change begins the only change that matters when we repent of our sins." Charlie was fearless: "There was no hate in his heart" and said of opponents, "That's a sad person. That's a broken person. That's a person who needs help. That's a person who needs Jesus." "This is the way."

Speaker 1 describes Charlie Kirk’s Christianity as sincere, saying it informed every part of his life—from his marriage and the way he treated his children to how he approached disagreement and thought of others—always primarily as people. He was younger, which made him hard to take seriously at first, but over more than ten years the speaker learned from him, especially how to disagree with people on topics they take seriously without hating them or feeling bitterness. Behind-the-scenes tensions existed in foreign policy debates within the GOP, but Kirk liked people. He would say privately that he agreed with them on some points. The speaker was struck that there was a person behind the views, which inspired him, and he believes God commands that and that Kirk lived it. Speaker 0 adds that Kirk treated everybody with respect, loved people, wanted their salvation, and sought their relationship with God, when disagreeing.

Charlie Kirk's death is a moment for America. It's also a turning point for you and me, a call to action. Charlie was Turning Point USA. He was the least hypocritical man I've ever known and he practiced what he preached. He was a Buckley-Limbaugh figure. Kierkegaard said, 'the most painful state of being is remembering the future, particularly the one that you'll never have.' I met him in a Chicago diner in 2012; he spoke about building a movement of young people. At the Turning Point Faith Conference, he summoned me on stage to pray for me, 'as if it depended on God.' He helped me make payroll. Charlie answered, 'courage from my faith.' He did not point left or right but up. The price for his message was his life. Without accountability, we live under the illusion of freedom. A million more Charlie Kirks are gonna be born.

Speaker 0 says they found a video of Charlie Kirk spewing hate, and he was being racist towards a black woman, so they gotta share it. Speaker 1 says, "What a beautiful kid that is," and "That is a gift from the lord, everybody." Speaker 0 adds, "That was the person y'all said that was racist and hated black people." They argue you "can't turn hate on or off," and "a racist person would never call you and your family beautiful." They note the clash between full-context ideals and clips: "Don't go off clips," yet they "went off of a clip of him showing love to a black woman." They conclude, "If you hate a group, you're stand 10 toes on that," and assert "that man showed with his little 10 toes on something" yet, "in this situation, he sees this this beautiful family of this mom and kid, he's gonna call them beautiful and a gift from God."

Approve of evil. You're not helping people. You're hurting them when you do that. You know, in the passage that everybody reads at their wedding, but nobody obeys, first Corinthians 13, Paul says, love does not rejoice in wrongdoing. Love rejoices in the truth. Love always protects. Love always perseveres. If you wanna love people, you protect them. You don't enable them to do evil. You don't approve of what they wanna do that god doesn't want them to do. And to the people who hate Charlie, to the people who celebrate his murder, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. Charlie was doing this to reach out to you. Charlie was doing this to love you. You don't love people by enabling their continued rebellion against the God of the universe. The man in the white hat was me. Don't believe in these crazy conspiracy theories. Charlie Kirk was literally like a son to me. I have three sons. He was like my fourth son. We drove four miles somewhat. Charlie was killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain. He was with Jesus, absent from the body, present with the Lord. Mikey McCoy is an absolute hero. The hospital staff and the law enforcement were amazing. Catherine Locastro came...

Charlie Kirk and I were not friends; the last week of his life we were beefing hard. But the day before he died, he sent me a personal message calling for personal dialogue, wanting me to come on the show. He said, 'We could be gentlemen together.' He said, 'we could deal with our disagreements agreeably.' In the past week and a half, watching talk of civil wars and censorship surrounding his death, I thought it was important to tell people: 'Don't put that on Charlie Kirk' because the last day of his life, he was reaching out to have not more censorship, more conversation, more dialogue with somebody who honestly was one of his adversaries, me. And I just wanna share that with the world. And I hope that maybe it might help somebody on both sides deal with issues more like he did.

This transcript describes a discussion with Orthodox friends about Charlie inviting Tucker Carlson. It notes there is nowhere safe for them in the world, and they have an inclination to trust no one, yet Charlie remains patient, engaging in dialogue with Tucker and Candace Owens, while also texting with Orthodox rabbis. The speaker commends Charlie for his patience and dialogue. The speaker responds to an Orthodox brother who claimed Candace is far right and Ocasio-Cortez far left, and that they both hate Jews. The speaker says Candace and AOC appear to operate their influence by pathos and ethos, and apply very little logos. They use pathos and ethos to judge and condemn an entire race of people. This is not framed as a political polarization issue (far right or far left) but as mob rule by emotion and perceived legitimacy void of the pursuit of truth. The speaker asserts that this dynamic is a reason America, for now and hopefully more in the future, is a somewhat safe haven for Jews because it is a republic. A link to a video was provided to illustrate or support this point.

"The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and quote dangerous. 'Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite.' 'Yeah. He was not an anti Semite. He was the opposite, and he was not dangerous.' He was 'a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace,' 'the opposite,' and he was 'very stung by that.' 'Charlie was deeply offended by that' and expressed some of those feelings on Megyn Kelly show and in other places, but that did not let up. The story is told because he called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic. And I said to him every single time, 'look, I've got my own way to communicate my views.' This is actually not the most important issue to me. There are lots of things I can talk about. I don't need to come to Turning Point. I can take a year off no problem. I hated seeing how much he was suffering, the hassle he was getting from people, and I was attacked too. By the way, it was a huge effort. I wasn't fully aware of it actually because I don't go online."

He was dependent on donors, and a small, intense group tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died. Two days before his death, he lost a $2,000,000 donation after publicly pledging to bring me to the next Turning Point conference in December. A flyer announced I would speak, and he texted he was taking heat. The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an antisemite and, quote, dangerous. Charlie Kirk, an antisemite. Yeah. He was not an antisemite. He was the opposite, and he was not dangerous. He was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. He was deeply offended by that and expressed some feelings on Megyn Kelly show and elsewhere. Seth Dillon of Babylon Bee pressured Charlie Kirk to pull me off stage because BB didn't like what I said, shocking that someone whose persona is about free speech.

Speaker 0: The speech opens with a critique of denouncing and a reference to the red guard/ c ultural revolution, questioning why nobody denounces others the way that era was denounced. The speaker recalls that the entire point of Charlie Kirk’s public life was to have actual debate, and asserts that Charlie “died for it.” The last several months of Charlie’s life were devoted, in part, to arguing about this event and this speech, which he asked the speaker to deliver earlier this year, this summer. The speaker notes that Charlie faced immense pressure from people who fund Turning Point who wanted him to remove the speaker from the roster. This has all become public, and the speaker describes the situation as sad, stating that Charlie stood firm in his often stated and deeply held belief that people should be able to debate. The speaker emphasizes that if someone has something valid to say and is telling the truth, they ought to be able to explain it calmly and in detail to people who don’t agree with them, and that they shouldn’t immediately resort to “shut up racist.” The speaker adds that “shut up racist” is the number one reason they voted for Donald Trump. They declare that if they were a racist or a bigot, they would simply say so, noting that it’s America and one is allowed to be whatever kind of person they want. They insist they are not a racist and have always opposed-bigoted views, but criticize the style of debate that prevents the other side from talking or being heard by immediately going to motive, asking why the question is asked, and stating they detect “a certain evil in your soul” in the question. They say that listening to such a question implicates the listeners too, and that someday they may be asked to denounce that person; they assert that friendship is not a reason to defend someone and that love is no defense. The speaker reflects that they thought that phase had ended and that they are not going to engage in those rules. They affirm that if someone doesn’t like what they think, that’s fine as long as they get to express it. That remains their view.

We had our disagreements. Where we did agree is that he would go to these college campuses and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. And ultimately, that is why he was killed. The gunmen that killed him, they hated him because of his defense of Christian morality. Charlie Kirk cannot call himself a Christian anymore. Sorry, you forfeited that. I do not wanna hear and you cannot allow Charlie Kirk to go to one more public event, one more question and answer, one more ask me anything without being protested, without being shouted down, without being interrogated about this. This guy goes around from campus to campus in the most artificial and phony and fake way talking about, oh, God, God made me very blessed that I control $500,000,000. And then you go around from campus to campus making excuses for a famine?