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I've seen corporate frauds on Wall Street, and when they get caught, they don't admit it. They continue to lie and convince investors to hold on, just like what's happening now. Whether it was accidental or intentional, the data shows a cover-up and criminal negligence. In my experience, regulators would step in, but here, the population is unaware. We need to spread this information because most people don't know what's happening. Once enough people are aware, things can change. We can't rely on anyone to save us. It's no surprise they approved the vaccine for childhood schedules because they want immunity.

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I was struck by how many people around me have died or deteriorated since 2020, and I feel like something happened to their immune systems. My old dears told me my stepdad has prostate cancer that’s spread throughout his body. He’s in his fifties, eleven years younger than my mum. They did 22 biopsies. I’m skeptical about sticking a needle into a tumor and pulling it out through surrounding tissue without encouraging spread, and I’m not convinced it would help. McGran went about two weeks after her third [dose/incident], and something happened to her bowels; they don’t really know what. Starvation was the main cause on her death certificate. What a brutal way to go in this day and age. My grandad died three months after his third cancer diagnosis, pancreatic cancer—fucking aggressive. I stayed with him as he went. A mate of my old man, down the boozer, had lung cancer and died about two weeks after his second; another aggressive form. The landlord and my old man’s mate in the pub had a heart attack and dropped dead on the floor in the middle of the pub. People said it wasn’t that; he was already fucked, weren’t he? At least three or four other wider family members have died within three or four months of a cancer diagnosis. My cousin has blood in his sinuses and says it started coming on after his third [dose/incident]. Friends, mums, dads, friends, grandparents—I’m hearing about them all the time. I had just finished studying drug design and development as part of my medical sciences degree at UCL, and I remember thinking that it takes twenty years to develop a drug. I went straight to the clinical trial reports, AstraZeneca and Pfizer, downloaded the PDFs, and read them cover to cover. I realized this is a load of bollocks. I sent it to all my close family and friends and said, “watch out.” None of them opened the message, let alone took notice. The only people who did were my dad, my sister, and my brother-in-law. Lo and behold, the four of us are healthy as a horse and haven’t had so much as a sniffle since them lots started getting on it. It breaks me fucking heart. As much as I had mentally prepared myself for this over the last five years, it’s still absolutely brutal to watch my mum, stepdad, close family, and friends leave prematurely because they fucking fell for it.

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Former vice president of Pfizer, Speaker 1, shares his insights on the events of early 2020. He noticed inconsistencies in statements made by colleagues and realized something was amiss. The simultaneous lockdowns across multiple countries convinced him that this was a coordinated effort beyond the local level. Speaker 1 accuses those in power of lying and implementing ineffective measures. He believes that the vaccines being administered are intentionally harmful, based on his extensive experience in drug design. He is unafraid of legal action and challenges them to sue him, confident that he would win.

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I was a former VP at Pfizer, overseeing respiratory and allergy meds research. In early 2020, I noticed global lockdowns happening simultaneously, indicating a coordinated effort beyond national levels. I believe the actions taken were not based on a genuine pandemic threat but rather a deliberate plan. I am confident in accusing those involved of lying about the safety of the vaccines, which I believe were intentionally designed to harm people. I have extensive experience in drug design and stand by my assertion that these injections are dangerous and potentially lethal.

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Speaker 0 recounts a 2013 mRNA-based trial with 'over 200,000 participants' that allegedly 'altered how the T cells produced antibodies' and 'worked phenomenally for not just lupus, but ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, multiple sclerosis as well.' He claims 'every last one of us, including myself, had their heart stop' and 'less than five of us are still alive today,' with injections 'over about a year' and complications after 'two years'—'cancer, heart attack, stroke, myocarditis.' He insists he didn't commit 'government assisted suicide.' He discusses 'stage three human testing' and says if a drug 'does not show what the pharmaceutical company wants it to show ... that drug does not pass FDA testing, that's because it killed over two percent of the people that were in that trial.' He says pharma pays medical bills, enforces NDAs, and 'destroy it' and 'bury that data' to conceal deaths; claims 'Since 1920, doctors have killed over two hundred million Americans.' He adds 'open heart surgery. Lost my colon, three strokes.'

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Pfizer has had a terrible year, with its stock price cut in half and poor earnings. The big investors are selling millions of shares, indicating their lack of confidence. The CEO may not receive his bonus, but he still made $33 million last year. The interesting part is the connections between Pfizer's board members and other companies. One board member used to be the CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, while another was the former commissioner of the FDA. There is also a new company, Resilient, founded in 2020, with two Pfizer board members, the former FDA commissioner, and the CEO of In Q Tel. This raises suspicions, especially when combined with the struggling pharmaceutical industry. The speaker is curious if anyone else has investigated this matter.

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It used to be that pharmaceutical companies were working with the doctors. Now unfortunately, companies are captured by the price of the stock. Know, venture capitalist owned pharmaceutical companies. They owned the CR or the clinical research organizations. They owned the site. They owned the institutional review board. They owned the advertising, the marketing. They influenced through the media. And so unfortunately, there's a big it's a it's a loaded question, but it's a big market. And what we saw this pandemic was the price of the stock mattered more than the price of a life.

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I'm speaking out because my fully vaccinated son, Jackson, had health issues. With SB277, my perfectly healthy, vaccine-free five-year-old can't attend school in California. I cried for weeks, feeling I was meant to fight a company bigger than some countries. I used to sell Vioxx at Merck, which was later found to have manipulated data and covered up heart attack risks. This made me realize things on the market aren't always safe. If a vaccine is added to the schedule, drug companies can make billions. I cannot stay silent. Pharma influences medical education and research, leading to biased studies. The FDA and CDC are compromised, with conflicted leaders and revolving doors. Pharma creates customers for life, especially with vaccines for kids. They prioritize profit over people, and it's up to us to take back our health.

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Pharmaceutical companies generate over two-thirds of their profits in the United States, despite the U.S. accounting for only 4% of the world's population. The speaker expresses respect for pharmaceutical companies and their leadership. They believe these companies successfully convinced people for many years that the existing system was fair, even though the reasons why were not well understood. The speaker claims to have figured out the reasons behind this.

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I participated in an mRNA-based immunomodulatory medication trial back in 2013. It was meant to alter how T-cells produced antibodies, and it worked phenomenally for lupus, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's, and multiple sclerosis. There were over 200,000 participants in the trial, and every one of us had our hearts stop. Less than five of us are still alive today. The medication was a series of injections over a year, and complications like cancer, heart attack, stroke, and myocarditis took two years to appear. If a medical trial doesn't show what the pharmaceutical company wants and the drug doesn't pass FDA testing because it killed over two percent of participants, the company pays everyone involved to sign an NDA. They bury the data because pharmaceutical companies kill more people than wars. Since 1920, doctors have killed over 200 million Americans. I had open heart surgery, lost my colon, and suffered three strokes.

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I invested $10,000,000 in a supplement to help during the pandemic, facing backlash from big pharma and media. Plans to distribute to Israel, the Philippines, and Brazil were thwarted. Despite warnings, I continued to fight for saving lives.

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"Well, we fired that board because they were it was an utterly it was just an instrument. It was a sock puppet for the industry that it was supposed to regulate." "They said that 97% of the people on that board had undisclosed conflicts, many of them that had disclosed conflicts as well." "rotavirus vaccine was approved by that board, and there were five members of that board at that time, and four of them had direct financial interests in the rotavirus vaccine." "The one they voted on, that he voted on, within a year it had to be withdrawn because it was causing this really disastrous disease in kids that is often lethal, called intussusception." "he and his business partners sold that vaccine to Merck for a $186,000,000. He told Newsweek that he won the lottery."

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In early 2013, I participated in an mRNA medication trial aimed at modifying T-cell antibody production. The trial involved over 200,000 participants, and nearly all experienced heart stoppages, with fewer than five of us still alive today. Complications arose two years later, including cancer and heart issues. Contrary to claims, I did not commit suicide; rather, the trial's dangers were downplayed. If a drug fails to meet FDA standards, pharmaceutical companies often settle with participants and enforce nondisclosure agreements, hiding the truth about the risks. Since 1920, medical practices have caused more deaths than wars in America, with over 200 million fatalities attributed to doctors. I've personally endured severe health issues, including open-heart surgery and strokes. Misunderstandings about my experience are common.

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Pfizer has had a rough year, with its stock price dropping by more than half and poor earnings. The big investors in Pfizer are selling millions of shares, indicating their lack of confidence. The CEO may not receive his bonus, but he still made $33 million last year. The speaker discovered some interesting connections within Pfizer's board of directors, including former CEOs of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the FDA. They are also involved in a new company called Resilient, which focuses on fast-tracking medical technology. The CEO of In Q Tel, a significant company, is also on Resilient's board. The speaker finds these connections suspicious, especially considering the current state of the pharmaceutical industry. They are curious if anyone else has investigated this matter.

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Speaker 0: I find information like this, you know, inserts for the vaccine. Paper's there, and there's nothing printed on it. I find that very interesting, disheartening, disgusting, and lots of other words, but then it gets better. It just keep wait. There's more. It just keeps happening. The CDC redacts every single word of a 148 page study on a myocarditis after COVID vaccination. So I asked research to print the study for me. 148 pages. The entire thing is redacted. What good does a study do if there's nothing there? Then I wanna know, wait, what might have been there that they needed to redact it? That's even scarier. Speaker 1: We're witnessing an active cover up of a colossal consumer product safety debacle that is is basically affecting the entire world. Mhmm. So in The United States, our CDC, National Institutes of Health, and the FDA are actively involved in a cover up. And the same is occurring in The UK with the MHRA, Europe with European medicine agencies, and Australia with the Therapeutic Goods Administration. Something is going on that's very big. Each one of these companies that puts out a product has an obligation to produce ninety days of safety monitoring after their product comes out. It's a regulatory dossier. If somebody has a problem with the new product and they call the company like Pfizer, Pfizer has to report, write down what happened, and they have to collate that in a report and produce it and make it publicly available. When it came to ninety days with Pfizer, the first vaccine that came out, remember Pfizer was approved 12/10/2020. Pfizer didn't produce the report. And then people started asking, well, what's happening with your vaccine? And Pfizer would not disclose what happened. And then it went to court. And the lawyer for the FDA stepped in and said they don't wanna release Pfizer's dossier for fifty five years. Mhmm. Oh. Fifty five years. And the the the plaintiff pushed. And finally, slowly, the Pfizer dossier came out. Pfizer recorded one thousand two hundred and twenty three deaths with their product within ninety days of release. People were calling Pfizer in desperation watching their family members die after taking the vaccine. Pfizer recorded over twelve hundred new adverse events, new problems that doctor Boden has talked to you about that we are grappling with the entire time. But the point is our FDA worked to cover this up. The FDA should be regulating this company. FDA should have been having at least monthly meetings and fully disclosing what was going on with these novel vaccines, which are a genetic transfer technology platform.

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The speaker states they decided to break the system, referring to drug companies, which they describe as the most powerful lobby in the world with tremendous power over the Senate, the House, governors, and everybody. The speaker notes that drug companies spend billions of dollars. The speaker claims they don't care and have to do what's right.

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I found it very interesting to see the CEO of Pfizer, Albert Bourla, get booed at a White House Black History Month event after being introduced by Trump. Trump even seemed to anticipate the reaction. Pharmaceutical executives have become increasingly disliked, especially after the COVID vaccine situation. Bourla's presence seems to be part of an attempt to get the administration to be lenient on Pfizer, especially with RFK Junior now the Secretary of Health and Human Services. RFK Junior, a known vaccine skeptic, aims to address pharmaceutical company abuses. Bourla even had a secret dinner with RFK Junior to discuss chronic diseases. Despite this, Bourla believes there are still opportunities for Pfizer with the new administration. However, the public's negative reaction suggests a deep distrust and anger towards Pfizer, making it difficult for them to regain public confidence. We need to keep up the pressure to ensure accountability for their actions.

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The discussion traces the alleged dark origins and long-running influence behind modern medicine and vaccines, framing today’s pharmaceutical system as the culmination of a century-long strategy led by powerful interests. - Rockefeller’s role is presented as foundational. Speaker 0 describes John D. Rockefeller becoming America’s first billionaire in 1913 and using strategic philanthropy through the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research (1901) and the Rockefeller Foundation (1913) to shape Western medicine toward laboratory-based, drug-centered approaches. The narrative claims this shift marginalized herbalism, naturopathy, homeopathy, and holistic remedies, promoting a model in which a pill is developed for every illness and patients remain chronically ill to sustain repeat business. - The early to mid-20th century is characterized as a period of regulatory capture and a pivot to synthetic, patentable drugs. From the 1920s to the 1940s, oil and chemical companies supposedly moved into synthetic drugs with Rockefeller guidance, removing incentives to patent natural remedies while patenting synthetic ones. This, the speaker argues, created a profit motive to treat illness as a recurring revenue stream. - Regulatory capture and the FDA’s evolution are discussed. The claim is that the FDA became more of a gatekeeper dependent on the industry it regulates, with former pharma executives and consultants filling key roles and rubber-stamping drugs. The only notable counterpoint highlighted is Doctor Francis Kelsey, who reportedly blocked the thalidomide approval in the 1960s, preventing birth defects in the United States and illustrating a brief period when public safety was prioritized. - The subsequent decades are summarized as intensifying industry influence. The 1970s are described as a time when pharmaceutical funding of clinical trials and lobbying expanded, and the 1980 Bayh-Dole Act is cited as enabling private patenting of publicly funded research, increasing collaboration between universities and industry and training medical professionals to favor pharmaceuticals. The 1990s are marked by direct-to-consumer advertising on U.S. television, which allegedly shifted patient behavior and doctor prescribing patterns toward medications advertised directly to the public. - Whistleblower testimony is invoked to illustrate ongoing concerns about drug safety and industry practices. A whistleblower recounts bribes and perks tied to drug promotion, including lavish gifts and trips to doctors, and asserts that patients are often treated as a means to profit for corporations. - The conversation shifts to vaccine safety and regulatory issues. The discussion includes claims about the COVID-19 vaccines, with assertions that the FDA acknowledges a number of child deaths, and a reference to an autopsy-based analysis by Dr. Peter McCullough suggesting a high proportion of vaccine-related deaths in examined cases. There is mention that Dr. McCullough faced professional pushback. - The importance of gut health and the microbiome is emphasized as a counterpoint to pharmaceutical-centric medicine. Speaker 3 argues that gut microbiome diversity is linked to many chronic conditions and aging, and cites the benefits of fermentation and kimchi. A specific emphasis is placed on kimchi as having a broad spectrum of beneficial bacteria and on the purported anti-aging effects observed in cell studies. - Kim Bright of Brightcore Nutrition advocates kimchi-based products (Kimchi One) as a practical approach to support gut health and overall well-being, describing customer testimonials about improved digestion, immune function, skin and hair health, and weight management. She argues for the daily use of gut-supporting probiotics, especially after antibiotic use, and asserts that antibiotics can disrupt gut flora, necessitating restoration of beneficial bacteria. - The speakers discuss consumer engagement and the role of direct customer contact, contrasting it with impersonal pharmaceutical industry practices. They express optimism about changes in medicine and a desire to reduce reliance on processed foods and large pharmaceutical advertising, hoping for reforms and greater transparency. Throughout, the tone asserts a pervasive influence of Rockefeller-era strategies on today’s medical and vaccine landscape, while promoting kimchi-based approaches as a healthier counterbalance and offering products as a practical embodiment of that stance.

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Speaker 1 reveals that Bear Corporation knowingly sold medication infected with the AIDS virus. They pulled the product from the US market and dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America to make a profit. Shockingly, no corporate executives have been indicted or investigated by the US Justice Department. The FDA allowed this to happen, resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent hemophiliacs and their family members. The government is turning a blind eye to the situation.

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In early 2013, I participated in a medical trial for an mRNA-based medication that aimed to change how T cells produce antibodies. The trial had over 200,000 participants, including myself, and unfortunately, all of us experienced our hearts stopping. Only a few of us survived. The trial lasted about a year, and complications like cancer, heart attacks, strokes, and myocarditis appeared two years later. When a medication doesn't meet the pharmaceutical company's expectations or fails FDA testing, they often pay the participants' medical bills and have them sign nondisclosure agreements. This information is usually buried because pharmaceutical companies have caused more deaths in America than wars have. Since 1920, doctors have killed over 200 million Americans. Personally, I've undergone open heart surgery, lost my colon, and had three strokes.

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I invested $10,000,000 in a supplement to fight COVID-19, facing backlash from big pharma and media. Plans to distribute to Israel, Philippines, and Brazil were thwarted. Eventually made a deal with Pfizer. Despite warnings, I believed in saving lives.

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In 2008, I made a breakthrough in chemotherapy with a vitamin A compound. Excited, I shared with colleagues, but realized a pharmaceutical company had patented it broadly. When I called them, they dismissed me. My mentor explained it was a blocking patent for profit, not to benefit patients.

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The discussion traces a long, shadowy arc in the development of modern vaccines and medicine, arguing that rapid COVID-19 vaccine progress rests on over a century of influence by powerful interests rather than sudden breakthroughs. - The narrative centers on John D. Rockefeller, who became America’s first billionaire in 1913, the same year the Federal Reserve was created. It frames Rockefeller as leveraging his oil wealth to monopolize medicine, promoting prescription drugs while vilifying natural and holistic remedies. The claim is that Rockefeller used strategic philanthropy (Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, established 1901; Rockefeller Foundation, 1913) to push laboratory-based, drug-centered medicine, marginalize herbalism and naturopathy, and steer doctors toward pharmaceuticals. The effect, according to the speakers, was to keep people sick so they would return for ongoing treatments rather than cures. - The timeline continues with the rise of the pharmaceutical industry from the 1920s to 1940s, described as moving into synthetic drugs with Rockefeller guidance. Natural remedies were said to be non-patentable while synthetic drugs could be patented, creating a business incentive for ongoing, chronic treatment rather than cures. - The conversation shifts to regulatory dynamics, arguing that regulation became regulatory capture from the 1930s to 1960s, with the FDA functioning as a gatekeeper increasingly populated by former pharma professionals. The FDA’s integrity is debated through the example of Dr. Francis Kelsey, who resisted approving thalidomide; the drug was later linked to birth defects worldwide, and Kelsey’s stance is presented as a rare early stand for public safety. - In the 1970s and 1980s, the narrative asserts growing corporate influence: pharma lobbies expand, advertising budgets explode, and medicine becomes a growth industry. The Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 is cited as enabling private patents on publicly funded research, tying universities to pharma interests and shaping medical education toward pharmaceutical solutions. Direct-to-consumer advertising is highlighted as a turning point in the 1990s, pressuring doctors through patient demand spurred by TV ads. - The discussion includes a first-hand account from a former pharmaceutical sales representative, Lisa Prada, who describes bribes and perks (golf outings, concerts, strip clubs, etc.) to influence prescribing, and asserts that patients were often treated as means to corporate ends. - Kim Bright, founder of Brightcore Nutrition, joins to discuss current health issues, arguing that the pharmaceutical industry prioritizes profits over patient well-being. She notes that the Rockefeller Foundation funded COVID-19 vaccine efforts (she cites $55 million) and argues the foundation and industry continued to push medical interventions globally. She notes that the FDA’s public acknowledgment of COVID vaccine-related child deaths is incongruent with whistleblowers’ claims and autopsy data. - The program underscores the idea that prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the United States and Europe, citing studies on gut microbiome disruption from medications like antibiotics and acid-reducing drugs (dysbiosis) as a major contributor to chronic disease. - The gut microbiome is emphasized as central to health. Dr. David Perlmutter’s work on the gut-brain connection is referenced, including criticism faced for linking diet and fermented foods to health outcomes. Kimchi is highlighted as a powerful antimicrobial and a potential anti-aging agent in cellular studies. The hosts discuss kimchi’s health benefits, including improved digestion, immune function, and weight management. - Brightcore promotes Kimchi One capsules as a convenient alternative for Americans who dislike traditional kimchi, claiming benefits such as reduced bloating, better digestion, improved hair and skin, and weight loss. A discount offer is advertised: 25% off online, up to 50% off with a phone order, free shipping, and a free vitamin D3 with the first 100 callers, using the code provided. - The conversation closes with reflections on the do-not-mistake-the-system dynamic, optimism about changes in medicine, and calls for removing dependency on processed foods and advertising-driven medicine, with an acknowledgment of RFK Jr.’s activism against pharmaceutical ads on television.

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Although I am not a doctor, I’m a nurse. On the front lines we knew what was happening. When we asked for ibuprofen, they said no. When we asked why we weren’t giving steroids, the answer was “we’re just following orders.” Following orders has led to the sheer number of deaths in these hospitals. I didn’t see a single patient die of COVID. I’ve seen a substantial number die of negligence and medical malfeasance. When I was on the front lines of New York, I became globally known as the nurse in the break room sobbing, saying they were murdering my patients. Pharmaceutical companies had gone into those hospitals and decided to practice on the minorities, the disadvantaged, the marginalized populations with no advocates, because the very agencies that should protect them were closed while we were sheltering in place. While I was there, pharmaceutical companies rolled out remdesivir onto a substantial number of patients, which we all saw was killing the patients. And now, it’s the FDA-approved drug that is continuing to kill patients in the United States. As nurses, we’ve collected a descriptive amount of information that you may not get from the doctors. Doctors do quantitative data; we do qualitative data with a humanistic, phenomenological approach in nursing research. We’ve collected data from patients across the country for which we’ve helped patients through the American Front Line Nurses and the advocacy network so nurses could advocate for these patients. This data pool shows that as these patients get remdesivir, they have a less than twenty-five percent chance of survival if they get more than two doses. Now they’re rolling it out on children as well and into nursing homes or skilled nursing facilities as early intervention, even though doctors Pierre Corre and Merrick have demonstrated that there are cost-effective medications out there, and we are going to see the amplification of death across the country. We haven’t even touched on vaccines, which our expert panels have described; I won’t touch on that since many are far superior to me. Two days ago I flew out my first 10-year-old with a heart attack and had to fight the ER doctor because he said, “ten-year-olds don’t have heart attacks.” I argued for thirty minutes to force his hand to get an EKG and found a STEMI; the 12-lead EKG lit up. He said it wasn’t possible, and I said, “was just vaccinated yesterday. It is very much possible.” People contact me and the nurse advocates at American Front Line Nurses to help advocate, because there’s victim shaming—“it’s anxiety,” “it’s this.” But if they acknowledge it as a vaccine injury, the physician, the corporation, the hospital, the clinic may not get reimbursed, so it’s labeled as anxiety, neuropathy, or Guillain–Barré syndrome, when it’s very realistically a vaccine injury. I’ve traveled to South America, India, and South Africa, working in hot zones, stopping the spread of the virus and doing early intervention. Nowhere in developing nations do I see these issues that we see here in the United States. I’m a very proud American citizen from a family of immigrants. Our level of health care has deteriorated to substandard third-world-nation health care. You are better off in South America in a field hospital than in level-one trauma designer hospitals in the United States. As nurses, we are getting reports across the country from American frontline nurses about patients not getting food, water, or basic care. How come a patient hasn’t been fed in nine days? Why do I need a court order to force a hospital to feed a person who isn’t intubated and who would like food? If they’re on a ventilator, they’re not given water or basic care. We’re not allowed to take a BiPAP mask off to help someone eat. I’ve had patients who haven’t been bathed, haven’t been fed, and haven’t been given water, or been turned. This isn’t a hospital; this is a concentration camp. Nowhere in the United States do we isolate people for hundreds of hours with no human contact; it’s not allowed even in prisons. In hospitals, we isolate patients from their families for days, and you have to say goodbye over an iPhone, or you have to shuttle people in to see them. I was fired for sneaking a Hispanic family in to say the last rites to their family. Thank you, Senator Johnson, for giving nurses the opportunity to represent our patients, because we’re not often thought of as leading professionals, though we are the missing link between the doctors and the patients. Thank you for this time. Thank you for being a nurse.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #1756 - John Abramson
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Joe Rogan and John Abramson discuss the impact of pharmaceutical companies on American healthcare, focusing on the themes presented in Abramson's book, "Sickening: How Big Pharma Broke American Health Care and How We Can Repair It." They highlight that the U.S. and New Zealand are the only countries allowing direct pharmaceutical advertising, with New Zealand having stricter oversight. Abramson explains that drug advertising in the U.S. is protected under the First Amendment, making regulation difficult. He criticizes the misleading nature of drug ads, which often omit crucial information about efficacy and side effects. The conversation shifts to the influence of pharmaceutical companies on medical practices and the healthcare system. Abramson emphasizes that the primary goal of drug companies is profit, often at the expense of patient health. He shares insights from his litigation experience, revealing how drug companies manipulate data and marketing to maximize profits, including the case of Vioxx, which caused thousands of deaths due to undisclosed risks. Rogan and Abramson discuss the lack of accountability for pharmaceutical companies, noting that fines for wrongdoing are often seen as a cost of doing business rather than a deterrent. They express concern over the rising costs of medications and the lack of government oversight in drug pricing, which leads to a healthcare system that prioritizes profit over patient care. Abramson argues that the healthcare system must be reformed to focus on preventive care and lifestyle changes, which account for 80% of health outcomes. He advocates for transparency in clinical trial data and the need for healthcare professionals to be free from pharmaceutical influence. The discussion concludes with a call for collective action to address these issues, emphasizing the importance of informed consumer choices and the need for systemic change in healthcare.
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