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Speaker highlights clips with a red circle, saying, "holy shit, that is the bullet. It matches the exit wound, it also matches the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds, "in that video you can see the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself," and, "you can see something go down into the back right hand side of, of Charlie." Using Google Earth, he states, "his tent being set up in the middle of that triangle area would appear that the shooter was up here somewhere. That's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "It all makes sense to me, pretty crazy." He argues location: "rooftop access there but there's also a staircase down in the little alley there in that little nook so it's to me, it's pretty obvious that the shooter was was most likely, here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

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Zeb Boykin hosts Let's Talk About It and keeps this brief. He, a marine scout sniper who taught ballistics, states "the FBI lies to us" and urges starting with no preconceived notions. The video centers on ballistics. He analyzes four of nine camera angles, then returns to the first. Camera angle one shows a bullet near Charlie Kirk; camera two shows an exit wound in the neck and the earpiece flying off as the shockwave pulls the mic; camera three resembles the view. He explains how the earpiece and cord interact with the shirt, discusses a temporary cavity, and estimates a small-caliber round rather than a rifle. He disputes a body-armor shot, rejects a 'reflection' claim, and argues the shooter cannot be on the roof. He says there is a single shooter and pledges follow-up or live coverage; "The FBI is lying to you."

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- "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." - "The metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." - "I saw the shots. I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." - "this person looked to him like a foreign agent." - "this person was dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask." - "this is the wrong person. I observed this person with my eyes. You have the complete wrong description." - "the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw, that the gun that he saw was smaller."

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I now have from a confirmed source: "He was hit in the chest, which is what we saw right here. It caved in part of his chest. The bullet ricocheted up and went into the neck." "There was no side shooter, guys. The main shooter we're looking at came from the front, and I don't think it was that Tyler dude. I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." "First, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods. Then he drives and parks his car on campus. Then he walks back to the woods to get the gun, then he puts the gun in his pants, and he walks to campus, climbs on the roof, changes his outfit, then takes the shot." "This is what we call slop, folks. Slop." "Please do not send me any more videos of any other angles of this being a side shooter." "The side shooter, no. It had to have come from straight on, most likely a long rifle from a much farther distance. I personally think that there is somebody much farther back than that. I think that dude on the roof is a patsy." "Charlie Kirk was hit with a bullet, and they carried that body to the hospital. When it arrived there, his chest was caved in. The vest ricocheted up into his neck, most likely hitting his spine. That's why you see his neck tilt like that and he falls over." "Some people are saying he made ninety minutes. Definitely didn't feel a thing."

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Speaker 0: "We still have, basically confirmation he got shot. ... immediate incapacitation." He asserts "the FBI is lying" and that "it's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim he is along with other inconsistencies across the board." Speaker 1: "Keep your eye on this space here... the bullet matches the exit wound, ... the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds: "the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself." From Google Earth, "the shooter was up here somewhere, that's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "the shooter was most likely here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

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There was a lone shooter, and we had grainy footage of somebody jumping off a roof; it was established there was one person we were looking for, and that gave us the shooting scene at a spot about 140 yards away with roof indents. "where that shot was allegedly taken from with the weapon allegedly used, is a 30 aught six, the wound is entirely inconsistent with that weapon in that spot. It really just couldn't have happened exactly like they said. This is a very easy through and through round. This is not there's really no bones in the way." "And the way ballistics works is is bullets go in a straight line until and unless something acts on them. ... there was no exit wound." "Right? So what do we do with that information? And the only thing I can think to do with that information is to posit that this round shot at this angle would have gone through and through the neck easy. It probably would have gone through five necks in a row."

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- "Charlie Kirk wearing a bulletproof vest." - "I have from a confirmed source." - "Carly Carly Trik arrived. He was hit in the chest, which is what we saw right here." - "The bullet ricocheted up and went into the neck." - "There was no side shooter, guys." - "The main shooter came from the front, and I don't think it was that Tyler dude." - "I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." - "So first, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods." - "Then he drives and parks his car on campus." - "Then he walks back to the woods to get the gun, then he puts the gun in his pants." - "Then he walks to campus, climbs on the roof, changes his outfit, then takes the shot." - "Then he jumps off the roof with a 24 inch barrel secured to his leg." - "I think there is somebody much farther back than that." - "Some people are saying he made ninety minutes." - "Definitely didn't feel a thing." - "This is what we call slop."

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Zeb Boykin introduces himself as a Marine scout sniper and says he will keep the video short. He asserts, "the FBI lies to us" and urges evaluating claims without preconceived notions, focusing on ballistics. He identifies nine camera angles and uses four (Cam1–Cam4) to analyze footage frame by frame. He argues a bullet is visible before it hits Charlie Kirk, suggesting the shot came from the right/front and that the earpiece and cord movement shows a mic being pulled by a shockwave, not body armor. He describes an exit wound in the neck and an entry wound that wouldn’t produce the observed damage, estimating calibers around nine millimeter or .38, not 30-06. He discusses muzzle-flash frame, earpiece trajectory, and a Cam4 reflection claim, concluding, "This cannot happen if the shooter is shooting on the roof straight on," and "The FBI is lying to you."

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Speaker cites a "confirmed source" and says, "This is a message that I was sent on x" and that "his friend's dad is a surgeon at the hospital" while noting "Carly Carly Trik arrived." He states, "Charlie Kirk wearing a bulletproof vest" and that "he was hit in the chest, which is what we saw right here. It caved in part of his chest. The bullet ricocheted up and went into the neck." He adds, "There was no side shooter, guys. The main shooter we're looking at came from the front," and, "I don't think it was that Tyler dude... I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." He recounts an FBI timeline: "First, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods... then he drives and parks his car on campus... climbs on the roof, changes his outfit, then takes the shot..." He questions, "Why wouldn't he have done that in the first place?" He also asserts, "when you cut your finger... you put it above your heart, it stops bleeding," and that "the neck is above elevated above his heart" as "they carried that body to the hospital." He concludes, "the dude on the roof is a patsy."

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A gun-experienced trainer described the FBI timeline as inconsistent: “the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15. Didn’t make sense to him. He said earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots.” He noted the metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, “the very minute that Charlie gets shot,” and that he had “just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out.” He described the shooter as “dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask,” and to him, the person “looked to him like a foreign agent” and a “highly trained assassin.” After George Zinn got arrested, he ran to campus and said, “this is the wrong person … the complete wrong description.” The real description was “wearing tactical gear” and “obviously young” who “sprinted back after taking the shot.” He said the “now infamous veteran's shirt with the American flag on it and some jeans” wasn’t accurate. He said the gun FBI found was not the gun that he saw; “the gun that he saw was smaller.” He texted: “watching the video of the impact… the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine” and guessed “Hornady V Max” or similar “lightweight two twenty three bullet” designed for rapid expansion; copper shards rather than one large copper coated lead slug.

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An experienced firearms trainer said the FBI saying that the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15 didn’t make sense to him; he believed the earliest time was 12:22 when the shooter ran across, set up, and fired. He shared metadata showing 12:22–12:23, the minute Charlie is shot, and said he had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out. He described the shooter as dressed in tactical gear and wearing a face mask, and, to him, looked like a foreign agent—highly trained—unlike the widely circulated jeans description. After George Zinn’s arrest, he ran to someone on campus and said, this is the wrong person. He noted the gun FBI found was not the gun that he saw; the gun he saw was smaller. "watching the video of the impact, hearing the sharp crack instead of a big hunting rifle's boom, and seeing what looked like a shorter rifle platform, albeit with the absence of the shape of a standard 30 round magazine, the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice. I would guess that he was shot with a Hornady V Max or similar lightweight two twenty three bullet designed for very rapid expansion." "Of course, I don't have access to any autopsy reports like you might, but if they found small shards of copper rather than one large copper coated lead slug, that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

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This footage proved very difficult to track down. Aaron also has a Chicago number. Neither of them are students of UVU. One of them said he was a student at BYU, which is Brigham Young University. The metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot. I watched him sprint back after taking the shot. I saw this with my own two eyes. the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw. the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice.

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Speaker, a marine scout sniper who 'did that for five years,' says 'the FBI lies to us' and urges to start with 'no preconceived notion.' He defines four camera angles: 'This is camera angle one,' 'This is camera angle two,' 'This is camera angle three,' and 'Cam four is here.' He notes 'Bullet, Charlie' and 'This is an exit wound in the neck and the entry wound doesn't cause that immediately.' The earpiece is described: 'the earpiece flying off' and 'the cord is running down through the neck... pulls the collar up.' He mentions a 'temporary cavity' and a supposed laser: 'a laser strikes the lens' and 'the dot travels up... Charlie's hit.' He estimates calibers: 'I assumed... a 38' and 'nine mil' and says 'they claim rifle.' He concludes: 'FBI is lying. It's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim.'

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Zeb Boykin analyzes a shooting using four of nine camera angles, noting “there’s nine camera angles” and “we’re only gonna use four of them” before revisiting camera1. He states “the FBI lies to us” and limits discussion to ballistics. He claims a frame before impact shows the “bullet” at Charlie Kirk, and in camera2 “an exit wound in the neck” with “the earpiece” dislodged and “the cord pulling the shirt” as the mic is drawn by the shockwave. He says “the earpiece is not body armor” and dismisses a “reflection” in camera4. He mentions a possible muzzle flash (grainy) and discusses a temporary cavity, yaw, and bullet tumbling. He estimates a smaller caliber, possibly nine millimeter, and suggests a base-of-skull hit causing instantaneous incapacitation, not a rifle. He concludes, “The FBI is lying to you,” and, “This cannot happen if the shooter is shooting on the roof straight on.”

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An investigator says they compiled a timeline from every media outlet, tracing events from 08:23 when a gray Dodge Challenger was seen near campus to the arrest. The timeline suggests Robinson arrived on campus, performed reconnaissance, changed outfits, and moved through the Luce Center before ambushing Charlie Kirk at 12:33 from the rooftop. He allegedly retrieved a Maser Model 98, 30-06 bolt-action rifle from a drop point, engraved bullet casings with memes, and changed into dark clothing on the roof. After the shooting, he fled the campus, discarded the rifle and casings, and escaped toward Washington County, aided by a disguise using a limp. A large manhunt followed; FBI and US Marshals detained him later. The narrator questions CCTV coverage, possible scene tampering by Turning Point staff, and Discord chatter in the investigation.

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Speaker questions the narrative: 'random trans shooter' on the roof who 'took this shot' and was 'undetected' because the FBI released video footage. He asks if this means 'he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior' and wonders 'why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?' He questions the lack of footage—'why don't we have any images of this kid leaving the school?' and 'video footage of this kid jumping off the roof?' He says, 'he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' and argues, 'you definitely wouldn't carry the rifle with you' to blend in, citing 'an American flag shirt on.' He references 'criminal minds' and BAU, concluding, 'This is weird, guys. This is freaking weird.'

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A "straight shooter" with gun training said he observed discrepancies in the FBI timeline. He notes the FBI said the shooter "dropped onto the roof at 12:15," but that the earliest timing was "12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." He adds that metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot," and that he "had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." He says the later description was wrong: "not the description that the entire world received less than twenty four hours later of this person, Tyler Robinson, wearing jeans." Instead, "this person was dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask" and "looked to him like a foreign agent." He recalls saying, "this is the wrong person." The gun FBI found was "not the gun that he saw"—"the gun that he saw was smaller." A text describes "a sharp crack" and "shorter rifle platform" with "a 10 or 20 round magazine" and "Hornady V Max or similar lightweight two twenty three bullet designed for very rapid expansion." If copper shards were found, "that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

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A training guns expert said the FBI claim "the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15" didn't make sense; he asserted "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots," and metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the minute that Charlie gets shot." He said "I saw the shots. I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out," and that the shooter "looked to him like a foreign agent," "dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask," "highly trained." After George Zinn's arrest, he told campus "this is the wrong person" and that the person "wearing tactical gear" and "obviously young" "sprinted back after taking the shot," a description "never made its way out." He said "the gun FBI found was not the gun that he saw"—"the gun that he saw was smaller." Text: "watching the video of the impact, hearing the sharp crack..."

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An experienced firearms trainer cited FBI timeline inconsistencies: "the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15" didn’t make sense; "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." He noted metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot," and, "I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." He said the shooter differed from the public description: "this person was wearing tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask... looked to him like a foreign agent... highly trained." After George Zinn's arrest, he said, "this is the wrong person. I observed this person with my eyes. You have the complete wrong description. Person you're looking for is wearing tactical gear and is obviously young." He claimed the gun FBI found was not the gun he saw: "the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw, that the gun that he saw was smaller." He shared a text: "assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice... Hornady V Max or similar lightweight .223 bullet designed for very rapid expansion." He added: "if they found small shards of copper rather than one large copper coated lead slug, that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

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The speaker says they spent the night compiling “this timeline … from every media outlet … so we can understand what the media is telling us and what evidence we have to support that,” noting holes and missing pieces. Key points: 08:23 they see his gray Dodge Challenger driving past a home near the university; 08:29 Robinson arrives at the university campus in his gray Dodge Challenger, parks in the entrance area, and is captured on surveillance wearing “a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts, and a black hat with a white logo and a light colored shoes.” From 08:29 to 10:00, he’s “ghost” on campus for reconnaissance; 09:57 he’s seen walking back in a red maroon shirt; 11:49 he’s dressed in dark clothing, hobbling toward the campus; 11:52 he arrives on campus, moves through stairwells toward the Luce Center; 12:15 retrieves the rifle, a Maser model 98, 30 odd six bolt action with a scope from a drop point in a bush, and engraves the bullet casings with meme style messages: “fired casings, notice bulges, o w o, What’s this? Unfired. Hey, fascist. Catch arrows. Oh, Bella Chow. Bella Chow. Bella Chow.” He changes into dark clothes on the roof; 12:22, 12:33 he fires a single shot from the roof striking Kirk; he flees, discards the rifle, and changes back into maroon. Turning Point employees tamper with a crime scene; FBI arrives 12:39; 10:45 reward announced for information; 7,000 to 11,000 leads; by Sept 11–12, Robinson detained at home by US Marshals, FBI custody soon after. The narrator questions CCTV footage, Discord messages, and suggests the possibility of faked gait, inviting viewers to review footage and share.

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"What you're watching here, you're gonna watch the reaction." "Something is hitting that shirt before it goes through his neck." "There could easily be a white vest under it." "Or what I just realized here is you guys have black letters on there." "That round could have very possibly touched one of those black letters." "The shirt looks like after the fact, but he did even have this mic on here." "There is no way to get that angle of that shot." "the vest goes through this, hits something inside, ricochets back out, comes out the top." "it most likely was a long rifle." "I'm still not convinced of the trans shooter." "There have been lies that the FBI has told us." "Kyle's Kyle does this stuff for a living." "Drop some comments below."

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Questions the claim that 'some random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow magically being undetected because the FBI releases a a video footage.' He asks if he had 'planted the gun on the roof prior' and how he could 'walk back in the second time without the weapon.' He questions why 'we don't have any images of this kid leaving the school' or 'any video footage of this kid jumping off the roof,' and notes he 'runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' while wearing 'an American flag shirt.' He doubts the FBI photo is the best they can provide and references 'criminal minds' and 'the BAU' that would 'rerender that image' to be 'pixel perfect' with 'face recognition software.' Contrasts movie-like tech with reality, calling it 'weird.'

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Discussion centers on claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination, including a side shot. The presenter says "there's now a shooter on the roof" and an eyewitness states the shooter was "wearing tactical gear" and described "the exact type of weapon... a two two three round." A bystander video shows "somebody on the roof" and the eyewitness asserts the shooter was "highly trained, like a highly trained assassin" and that the footage's metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12/23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." The speaker adds the shooter "looked like a foreign agent" and "not jeans." Another claim: "the FBI's official story is false" with video of an "entry and exit wound," though another participant says "it's not blood splatter. That's literally his necklace getting snapped off and flying over the back of his neck." The discussion concludes with "Cash should resign."

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"This is a CIA Stinger 22 magnum pin gun inside a camera, and that telephoto lens has a suppressor silencer. And it's literally the smoking gun." "They are into espionage, and they do that kind of thing just like The United States. Google it." "Seventeen seconds earlier, he was using the viewfinder, faking it to take pictures." "The bullet's traveling faster than the sun." "The shooter behind Charlie with the camera gun is scouting the area to see Charlie's mannerism and what angle to shoot the bullet." "The backpack with the dangling straps, but that doesn't matter because he tries to hide all that in a black Chrysler minivan Pacifica with stock rims." "The signal guy; puts the radio to his mouth and gets the team working." "There were two shooters: one with a silencer and one with a big bang to avoid any conspiracy." "Charlie had two wounds: one from the front, and another from his right into the lower part of the skull." "UVU Hall Of Flags." "The shooter on the roof had the silencer; the one behind Charlie with the camera gun is scouting." "Turning Point stated that when they go live, this they didn't go live. They always have four k cameras. On this day, they only had three." "greatest1command.com" "Yl Relevance."

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New details emerge moments after we wrapped, as law enforcement outlined the shooter's movements in a 9:26 a.m. Eastern press conference. The subject arrived on campus at 11:52 a.m., moved through stairwells to the roof, crossed to the shooting location, and then fled into a nearby neighborhood. Investigators tracked leads via doorbell cameras and witnesses and say they have video of the individual but will not release it at this time. They recovered what they believe is the weapon—a high-powered bolt-action rifle—found in a wooded area the shooter fled to, and they have collected footwear impressions, a palm print, and forearm imprints for analysis, with more than 130 tips received. Authorities noted the suspect was dressed all in black and that the CCTV footage is grainy. An older man seen in the crowd was arrested and later released; another person, a Heritage Foundation staffer, was also released after questioning. The manhunt continues; the shooter remains at large, and no public image has been released. Analysts described the attack as potentially professional, citing a single approximately 200-yard shot, and there is debate about motive, including speculation of foreign intelligence leads floated by media figures. Hosts described the incident as a political assassination unfolding during Charlie Kirk's Utah Valley University stop, noting custody changes, a released older man, and an uninvolved Heritage Foundation staffer. They contrasted official briefings, discussed maps and eyewitness accounts, and cited speculation about motive and foreign involvement.
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