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Speaker 0 asks how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years; Speaker 1 responds, Too many. The discussion shifts to the total number of mass shooters in America over the last decade, with Five presented as the count and described as a lot. The exchange ends with Speaker 0 asking again, Do you mind do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Speaker 1 says, Counting or not counting gang violence. Great.

"how did this guy know to move to that exact location?" "There was also a man that was arrested in a parking lot with an airsoft rifle." "that crazy guy screaming that he was basically a distraction?" "the best way to tell a difference between people is to look at their ear." "the ear does not is a bit different to the one we've seen of of photos of Tyler, old photos Tyler." "it's not obvious, but we don't have any positive proof here that there is a rifle in this video at all." "how did he get a rifle up on the roof?" "it's not a takedown model." "the bulge in his pocket" "12:23:34" "potato cam footage" "I didn't shoot him, I didn't do anything, I swear guys." "rifle was pre positioned at some period in time, and that he then was able to pick it off the property, and because he knew he couldn't walk all the way across, and then stash it like that as he was moving into position finally." "there's so many different people that are talking about this and it hasn't died yet." "a Twitter post the day before and ended up sharing it, the same day within hours of when Charlie Kirk got shot, that said he was attending school there, he said something very big was gonna happen the next day"

So do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Too many. Okay. I think there's a There is five. Now five is a lot. Right? I'm gonna give you I'm give you some credit. Do mind do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Counting or not counting gang violence. Great.

Speaker 1: Of course, as you all know, in the wake of Charlie's murder, there was an incredible amount of angry discourse from the right. Blaming the Democrats, blaming liberals saying, you're the reason this happened. Only to find out, surprise, 22 year old white dude, loved guns, raised by two parents, lived in a good home, dad as a minister, also a sheriff, didn't check it in boxes. Y'all thought he would check, did he? Speaker 0: Okay. First of all, a coat of mascara would be your friend. Speaker 0: That is disgusting. That was absolutely disgusting. Fuck her. Speaker 0: It's it's weird how she lost the points about him being a furry loving trans dating.

"all these Internet experts are sure that it was a professional hit against Charlie Kirk." "Firstly, professionals are trained to aim for the center of scene mass." "Neither the center of scene mass or the head was hit." "The round landed here from what I saw." "The shooter got lucky." "Secondly, 200 yards is not that big a distance to make." "and there was even an exfil roof." "If you really wanna analyze these sorts of situations, team, stop looking at the shot." "Check out the planning, check out the prep, and even the exfil route." "Time will tell, I guess."

Why are we cheering for someone getting shot? He's dead. Like, no matter what political beliefs are, should not be cheering that someone got shot. He has a family. We do. We I value everyone's beliefs, but we should not be cheering as a class that someone got shot. He has a family. Yes. And who shot them? A transgender person. Oh. Oh. Oh. So that's what it is. Yes. Five males. It doesn't matter. You should not be cheering that someone got shot. Yes. You should not be cheering that someone got shot. Yeah. He's still, like, attacking you guys don't care what other people got.

Speaker 0: You know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten How many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Too many. Speaker 0: Credit. Do you mind do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Counting or not Counting gang violence. Great.

"So this Charlie Kirk story just keeps getting weirder and winter." "we're supposed to believe that some random trans shooter was on the roof" "and then you tell me that he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods." "if he left with a weapon and hid it in the woods, then why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?" "He even had an American flag shirt on." "I can't wrap my head around that." "And now the FBI with all their resources, that's the best photo that they can give us?" "Didn't we watch criminal minds as a kid?" "The BAU to, like, rerender that image and get it pixel perfect and go, yep. That's him." "Face recognition software. Match on the nose, ears, Boom. There he is." "This is weird, guys. This is freaking weird."

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 address a viral video about Charlie’s chief of staff, Mikey, and explain why they are discussing it. - The video in question attacks Mikey, Charlie’s chief of staff, claiming based on a few seconds of clips that he allegedly has a nonchalant or calm reaction to Charlie’s murder. They describe this as a “extremely disgusting attack.” - Speaker 1 recounts what happened: they were at the scene when a shooting occurred. The loud crack is heard; they turn and see Charlie has been shot. They realize there is a shooter on the scene. They decide to get out of there rather than be shot, noting Charlie had a security team that leapt into action to get Charlie out. - Speaker 0 notes their own actions: he, too, considered getting into the car, but decided against it. He was ahead of Mikey as they left. He recalls a moment where he paused to assess the situation, then saw Mikey, who was profoundly freaked out. Mikey’s lip was quivering, and he said, “I need to call Erica,” then took his phone and began calling Erica. Speaker 0 also called his own mom, saying there had been a shooting and that he was okay. - They describe Mikey’s later actions: after the initial shock, Mikey took charge like a “general directing a battle,” coordinating hospital transport and information flow, and directing people where to go. When they learned Charlie had died, Mikey told them, “now none of you can say anything that you've heard because it is Erica is not going to hear about this from anyone except me.” - Speaker 2 asks if Mikey could be involved in a conspiracy to murder Charlie. Speaker 1 responds that such accusations are vile and describes how some people online fuel such narratives, comparing the mindset to getting a “high” from dangerous or provocative content. - The speakers emphasize Mikey’s heroic actions: Mikey was distressed but stepped up to direct people and communicate with Erica and others. Speaker 0 notes that he, too, was traumatized after learning of Charlie’s death and rushed to be with Erica and the team. - They address the specific allegation that Mikey was on the phone immediately during the incident; they state he was not on the phone but was taking social videos to share with their group chats. He would send updates to Charlie’s social media during the event while the crowd was changing, then, overwhelmed by the noise and shock, he put his fingers in his ears but his phone remained in his hand as he moved away. - They describe the scene as a cordoned-off area with a narrow gap that people used to exit, where Mikey walked briskly or ran as he processed the trauma and continued to direct actions. They reiterate Mikey “turned into a general on a field marshaling the troops.” - Speaker 1 closes by urging readers who propagate narratives attacking Mikey to reconsider, stating that such narratives are bad and gross and a choice that shouldn’t be made.

Discussion centers on Charlie's views and reactions: "He was pro pro second amendment and so on." Speakers expect backlash: "People are gonna talk shit and say, see, is why." They reference a video "right before he gets hit," noting: "As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, when I'm watching the video right before he gets hit, was." The talk shifts to mass shootings: "Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Counting or not counting gang violence. Great." One participant adds, "I didn't watch it except for So" while another says, "he's literally they're literally asking him about mass shootings. I don't find that to be a coincidence either." The closing claim: "If I had my guess, this is a deep state hit. 100%. Our country's on the brink."

Speaker 0: Yes. Is that fair to say? Alright. Great. So do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Too many. Speaker 0: I'm gonna hear a Speaker 0: lot of Americans. Five. Okay. Now five is a lot. Right? Speaker 0: I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you some credit. Do you mind do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Counting or not counting gang violence. Great. Speaker 1: What the fuck?

Speaker 0: My name is Hunter. I was debating I was in the middle of debating Charlie Kirk, in the middle of the assassination at Utah Valley University. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Counting or not counting gang violence. Great. What brought you to the event that day? I make videos on Charlie Kirk and I made this video about the statistical analysis on trans shooters. And sort of the point that I was trying to make was that they are it's sort of a statistical outlier, that they're extremely underrepresented when it comes to how peaceful they are. Obviously, that question, pretty ironic given when it was given. Yeah. Not counting gang violence. Great.

Speaker 0: So do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Too many. Okay. Speaker 0: I think there's a There is five. Now five is a lot. Right? I'm gonna give you I'm give you some credit. Do mind do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Speaker 1: Counting or not counting gang violence. Great.

Speaker questions the narrative: 'random trans shooter' on the roof who 'took this shot' and was 'undetected' because the FBI released video footage. He asks if this means 'he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior' and wonders 'why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?' He questions the lack of footage—'why don't we have any images of this kid leaving the school?' and 'video footage of this kid jumping off the roof?' He says, 'he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' and argues, 'you definitely wouldn't carry the rifle with you' to blend in, citing 'an American flag shirt on.' He references 'criminal minds' and BAU, concluding, 'This is weird, guys. This is freaking weird.'

So you know the kid who was asking Charlie Kirk a question when Charlie got shot? Remember him? Everyone's feeling bad for him? Yeah. There's video footage of him practicing his reaction before it happened. So when Charlie got shot, you know, his reaction was to put his hands on his head, look shocked, shake a little bit. Yeah. He was doing that. He was practicing that in the crowd, and here's the freaking video. How are you gonna deny what you just saw there? How? And you already know what question, you know, he was asking Charlie. Right? Remember that? This just confirms what a lot of us have been thinking and what we all think actually happened. Sick.

The speaker references a person who was removing memory cards from cameras about four minutes after what is described as the Charlie Kirk assassination, noting that something about the situation didn’t sit right. They mention Candace released a video showing how this person reacted, and that diligent investigation followed, including a campus visit to UVU to examine the events with a play-by-play analysis. The speaker says they will leave a link to that video but first shows a clip. In the clip, Speaker 1 describes the sequence: “He doesn't try to grab Charlie. He doesn't duck. His first reaction standing right here is to turn this way and start booking.” The person “starts booking back here,” and Speaker 1 notes that he sees the shot and that Charlie hasn’t even hit the ground yet. Charlie is described as being in a position where “Charlie’s like this,” and the person pivots to lean back. Security personnel respond by coming over, grabbing him, and pulling him to the ground. Meanwhile, Terrell Farnsworth “has already turned and begun running back here to climb up on that wall.” The speaker asks the audience to imagine there had just been a shooting, with chaos and people running. Charlie Kirk “was just shot,” and the wall is described as “almost as tall as I am.” The speaker asks the audience if they can see, confirming visibility. The analysis then focuses on the person’s actions: measuring “how much of a pain in the ass he climbed up right here and then threw that loose rock and just so he could get to his vantage point.” The speaker calls it out as an attempt to explain the sequence from the vantage point up the wall. The clip continues with the person producing a selfie video: “Oh, they shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie.” They refer to him as “Agent” and note his statements like “They shot Charlie. God help him.” The speaker says this behavior is a major red flag and cites it as the most troubling aspect. The running scene is described further: as the person runs out, he looks to his left and, in the footage, is seen climbing up, then reacting to the news that Charlie was shot. The voiceover emphasizes the emotional state (or lack thereof) as the footage shows the stampede of people and chaos. The speaker underscores that, to them, the absence of emotion on the person’s face during these events is “the biggest red flag of all.”

I was about 10 feet to Charlie's left when it happened. It was one of those moments that will crystallize in your mind forever. You hear the pop, and it’s not completely clear what it is at first. I looked to my right and immediately saw what had happened. It was just one shot. The security got him immediately, got him into the car immediately, and then out again. They could not have done their job any better. Then, what do we do? I sent a message on Telegram to Turning Point, telling them to lockdown. I imagined they’d already seen it, but I said, lockdown Turning Point. I called my mom and said, I can’t say more, but mom, Charlie got shot. I love you. I have to go. Then I met with other team members, and we got to the hospital within about twenty-five minutes, and the rest of the day unfolded from there. Staff decided to address this head on because there’s so much intrigue, and I’m going to do a generous thing. The intrigue is because people care about Charlie. Blake, you were there and you interacted with Mikey. You left the scene and then reconnected with Mikey. So, explain what the video is. The video is by someone who attacked Mikey, Charlie’s friend, Charlie’s chief of staff, a guy we’ve seen on the show the last few weeks. They claim, based on a few seconds of clips, that he allegedly has a nonchalant or calm reaction to Charlie’s murder. This is an extremely disgusting attack. I was there when it happened and I was next to Mikey when it happened. When the shooting occurs, we both hear a loud crack and turn to see Charlie who has been shot. We both realize there is a shooter on the scene. We hear the crack and don’t know if it came from far or close, or if a mass shooting is unfolding. My reaction, and Mikey’s, was to get out of there before we were both shot. That is not us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team; they leapt into action and got Charlie out, which was their job. My job was not to be a hero or get in the way. I remember running past the SUV we came in on, thinking, should I get in that car? Then I thought that would be stupid, and I kept going. I was ahead of Mikey as we left. We got out and ran for more than fifteen or twenty seconds. I paused, looked around, and saw Mikey. I will never forget what I saw. Mikey is usually bubbly and happy, but he was profoundly freaked out. His lip was quivering, something I’d never seen from him. He said, I think he literally said, he needs to call Erica, then he calls Erica. He also calls his dad, Rob McCoy, and says, Dad, someone shot Charlie. You need to call all of your pastor friends. We then gathered to direct actions: to get to the hospital and to relay information to Erica. After the call, Mikey regained control and stepped up, directing a battle-like flow: get to the hospital, wait here, and get information to Erica.

Speaker 0 argues the Charlie Kirk story keeps getting weirder. They claim a random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow undetected because the FBI releases a video footage. Was this when he was walking into the building, then he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior, and he somehow managed to walk back in the second time without the weapon. If he left with a weapon and hid it in the woods, why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving? They say he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods. If you were running, you wouldn't carry the rifle with you. He wore an American flag shirt. The FBI with all their resources, that's the best photo? Didn’t we watch Criminal Minds? They claim BAU would rerender that image and get it pixel perfect. Face recognition software could redigitalize that kid's face with AI to pixel perfect; this is weird.

"What you're watching here, you're gonna watch the reaction." "Something is hitting that shirt before it goes through his neck." "There could easily be a white vest under it." "Or what I just realized here is you guys have black letters on there." "That round could have very possibly touched one of those black letters." "The shirt looks like after the fact, but he did even have this mic on here." "There is no way to get that angle of that shot." "the vest goes through this, hits something inside, ricochets back out, comes out the top." "it most likely was a long rifle." "I'm still not convinced of the trans shooter." "There have been lies that the FBI has told us." "Kyle's Kyle does this stuff for a living." "Drop some comments below."

Questions the claim that 'some random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow magically being undetected because the FBI releases a a video footage.' He asks if he had 'planted the gun on the roof prior' and how he could 'walk back in the second time without the weapon.' He questions why 'we don't have any images of this kid leaving the school' or 'any video footage of this kid jumping off the roof,' and notes he 'runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' while wearing 'an American flag shirt.' He doubts the FBI photo is the best they can provide and references 'criminal minds' and 'the BAU' that would 'rerender that image' to be 'pixel perfect' with 'face recognition software.' Contrasts movie-like tech with reality, calling it 'weird.'

Discussion centers on claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination, including a side shot. The presenter says "there's now a shooter on the roof" and an eyewitness states the shooter was "wearing tactical gear" and described "the exact type of weapon... a two two three round." A bystander video shows "somebody on the roof" and the eyewitness asserts the shooter was "highly trained, like a highly trained assassin" and that the footage's metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12/23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." The speaker adds the shooter "looked like a foreign agent" and "not jeans." Another claim: "the FBI's official story is false" with video of an "entry and exit wound," though another participant says "it's not blood splatter. That's literally his necklace getting snapped off and flying over the back of his neck." The discussion concludes with "Cash should resign."

"So we're supposed to believe that some random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow magically being undetected because the FBI releases a a video footage." "Was this when he was walking into the building, the then he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior, and he somehow managed to walk back in the second time without the weapon." "And then because if he left with a weapon and hid it in the woods, then why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?" "Didn't we watch criminal minds as a kid? Like, they have this super advanced software where they upload the image, and then the FBI just does their like, where's the BAU at and shit?" "Face recognition software. Match on the nose, ears, Boom. There he is."

"I thought the feds were saying they were looking for a bullet at some point, which is now very alarming to me. I don't understand that. How could they have been looking for a bullet? Because if I'm not seeing, and there isn't. I'm telling you, what happens in the front is not what happens in the back at all." "If I'm not seeing any blood, what what are we to take from that? The only thing that could make sense if what they're saying is true and that person took the shot from the place that they are saying that individual took the shot from, it would suggest that it it's a it it was inside of Charlie. Right? And they would know that. The feds would have known that." "So they would have communicated that they were never looking for a bullet."

The event opened with music, hats in the air, and a heated crowd. Some shouted offensive remarks toward the LGBT community, and others disparaged the prophet of Islam; cheers, boos, and mockery filled the venue. The first debater tried to persuade Charlie to adopt Mormonism, but the exchange stayed contentious and the audience booed him off platform. A second speaker proposed restricting gun rights for transgender individuals, citing Donald Trump. Charlie’s reply turned to mass shooting statistics. At that point, I did not see what happened directly. I heard a sharp crack and realized a firearm was involved. My friend reacted in horror; Charlie had been struck. Based on his reaction, I believe Charlie had been gravely injured. I shouted "USA" to project strength and create a distraction. No one knew if this was a lone shooter or coordinated. We left after traffic eased.

And look at this woman. That's the one that gets the shot done. Okay? I'm gonna make myself even smaller so that you can see more. I'm gonna play it. So do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years? He puts it down. "Too many." When he brings it up again, he talks to someone, He's gonna pull out the phone again, and I'm sorry. You're gonna have to see this. So Do mind do you know how It's gonna be horrible. There you go. That's your sign. Go again. Over the last ten years, counseling or not cottage gang violence. What? You see how he did you guys see that? He tried at first and missed. Watch these hands. That's perfect trajectory for the fucking bullet. Fuck. I hate that. Ten years. Counting or not counting gang violence. Boom. Boom. Misses. Then he gets him. And you see how he reacts when he gets him too. Like, he jumps. Instantly, the woman is there to cover exactly that phone that it's a weapon.