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Not always. I just noticed that around some of these exchanges, there's ellipses above them. It looks like they're cherry picking certain exchanges. So that 'My dad is super MAGA' just comes out of nowhere because they picked it from a totally different part of the conversation. These messages are clearly doctored is what I would say. They're doctored. Tyler's being corp you know, forthcoming. We're protecting him in some capacity. I find that to be unacceptable. K? Unacceptable. I want every single text message. I want time stamps. It is conspicuous that you are not telling us when this was sent because it sounds like it's when the campus is on lockdown, and he's gotta go back and gotta clean up. And then the next day when his dad is getting clued in after the picture's been released. They're not telling us that. Okay? We need full answers.

We have seen, an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it. "A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him my love, and I wanna protect you, my love." So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. "And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner." So a very interesting and, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David. "It was"

"Not always. I just noticed that around some of these exchanges, there's ellipses above them." "Around some of these exchanges, there's ellipses above if you look really closely." "Yeah. And it looks like they're cherry picking certain exchanges." "So that Yeah. My dad is super MAGA just comes out of nowhere because they picked it from a totally different part of the conversation." "Yeah. These messages are clearly doctored is what I would say. They're doctored." "I want every single text message." "I want time stamps." "It's it is conspicuous that you are not telling us when this was sent because it sounds like it's when the campus is on lockdown, and he's gotta go back and gotta clean up." "And you have a right to be a little bit uncomfortable about that because I'm a lot of bit uncomfortable about that. We need full answers."

Yeah. These messages are clearly doctored is what I would say. They're doctored. I want every single text message. I want time stamps. It's conspicuous that you are not telling us when this was sent because it sounds like it's when the campus is on lockdown, and he's gotta go back and he's gotta clean up, and then all of a sudden we're in the next day when his dad is getting clued in after the picture's been released. They're not telling us that. Okay? And you have a right to be a little bit uncomfortable about that, because I'm a lot of bit uncomfortable about that. We need full answers.

David Carlson is interviewed about someone he knows. The person was on call for work extracting eyeballs and needed to be sharp. David says the person said he made some choices and didn't have much time to live. David keeps the person's text messages private, but reads them to people. The phone goes straight to voicemail when David calls. David relays a message: he loves him, he's still his best friend, and he hopes he doesn't kill anybody else and surrenders for his family's sake. David doesn't want him to give up on life or kill himself. The text made David call the police. David and the person had separate lives with no in-depth conversations. David doesn't want the person's legacy to be "crazy right winger gone nuts" because he knew him all his life and he wasn't that guy.

Speaker 0 notes, “not always… around some of these exchanges, there’s ellipses above them,” and adds it looks like they’re “cherry picking certain exchanges… Yeah. My dad is super MAGA just comes out of nowhere because they picked it from a totally different part of the conversation.” Speaker 1 replies, “These messages are clearly doctored is what I would say. They’re doctored.” They speculate why, suggesting, “Tyler’s being corp you know, forthcoming. We’re protecting him in some capacity.” They call it “unacceptable. K? Unacceptable. I want every single text message. I want time stamps.” They argue it’s “conspicuous that you are not telling us when this was sent because it sounds like it’s when the campus is on lockdown, and he’s gotta go back and gotta clean up. And then all of a sudden, we’re in the next day when his dad is getting clued in after the picture’s been released.” They conclude, “They’re not telling us that. Okay? … We need full answers.”

"It's not my driveway. It's my aunt's driveway." "I parked there probably ten minutes before he walked by." "I had not seen this footage till just now." "This is his Ring camera." "the killer walked down that street nineteen minutes after you were there." "I believe it was 02:30 local time." "We got there probably about 01:45." "National Guard was going up and down the street." "there's maybe another suspect." "no information to suggest there's another suspect." "the first two that they arrested were released." "So I'm not suggesting there were two. I'm suggesting that the one that we thought was the one they had in custody was then released, and then the second one was released." "FBI was swarming that street when you went back to this location two hours later."

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss a text message where someone claims to give 50% of their income to their father. Speaker 1 is unsure of the meaning and suggests it could be circumstantial evidence. Speaker 0 questions why no one has asked the person involved for clarification. Speaker 1 admits they don't know and have nothing to say about it. Speaker 0 points out that the text message itself is evidence. Speaker 1 reluctantly agrees and ends the conversation, feeling like they were cut off by Speaker 0.

The speaker says the person of interest was on call for work extracting eyeballs and needed to be sharp. The speaker recalls receiving text messages from him, including one where he said he made choices and didn't have much time to live. The speaker is hesitant to share a picture of the text message, as it was also sent to a friend. The speaker wants to send him a message saying that he loves him, he's still his best friend, and hopes he doesn't kill anyone else and surrenders for his family's sake. The speaker doesn't want him to give up on life or kill himself and is concerned he may have already done that. The text message prompted the speaker to call the police. The speaker clarifies his name is David Carlson, and he doesn't want the person of interest to be remembered only as a "crazy right winger gone nuts."

The discussion centers on serious allegations involving a programmer who accused OpenAI of stealing people’s work and not paying them. The group notes that this programmer was murdered, with several participants presenting conflicting views on his death. Speaker 1 states that it was a great tragedy and that the programmer committed suicide, expressing a strong belief that it was suicide. In contrast, Speaker 0 describes the situation as clearly a murder, citing multiple troubling details and offering their personal conclusion that the programmer was killed. There is also any emphasis on the programmer’s public exposure. Speaker 2 notes that the programmer had been named four days earlier in the New York Times lawsuit and had just done an expose for the New York Times on how copyright issues with OpenAI were involved, specifically on the twenty-sixth, highlighting timing as very odd. The conversation touches on surveillance and investigative details. Speaker 3 claims there were multiple investigations and two police reports, but asserts that only one police report has been seen, alleging that in the first report the writer changed it, and that this is the second report; they claim the only one seen is the second report. The narrative then returns to the stated belief that the programmer was murdered. Speaker 0 lists signs of foul play: a struggle, surveillance camera footage, and wires cut. They detail that the programmer had just ordered takeout, had returned from a vacation with friends on Catalina Island, and that there was no indication of suicide. They note there was no note and no observed behavior suggesting suicide, and that the programmer was found dead with blood in multiple rooms, arguing that these factors make murder seem obvious. The question of whether authorities have been consulted is raised, with Speaker 0 asking if the authorities have been talked to about it. Throughout, Speaker 1 reiterates their belief in suicide by asking, “Do you think he committed suicide? I really do,” maintaining that position even after the murder narrative is presented. Speaker 1 confirms they have not discussed the matter with the authorities.

The segment analyzes questions about an alleged text-message exchange between Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend regarding the Charlie Kirk shooting, presenting an “official transcript” of messages and highlighting apparent inconsistencies. Key lines cited include: "Robinson, drop what you are doing and look under my keyboard." "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it." "I am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still." "I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age." "Robinson, I am. I'm sorry." "If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence." "Remember how I was engraving bullets?" "Delete this exchange." The piece notes questions about timelines, absence of time stamps, and camera footage, and quotes: "I'm gonna turn myself in willingly." "Since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard MAGA." It concludes that online observers question the narrative and possible discrepancies with authorities’ statements.

Speaker 0 is contacted by the FBI but refuses to turn off the camera. They are asked about someone they met online but refuse to speak on camera. Speaker 0 declines an interview and ends the conversation.

The speakers recount the moments surrounding Charlie Kirk being shot and highlight the behavior of Mikey McCoy, Charlie Kelley’s chief of staff. The account begins with a father describing his son’s roles: Justin is the chief financial officer, and Mikey is the chief of staff. He recalls the instant Charlie was shot: “Charlie’s been shot in the neck. Please call every pastor and pray.” He notes that Charlie was directing at the time, with blood all over him. Speaker 1 focuses on Mikey’s actions during the incident. He notes that Mikey is still there, phone in hand, texting, talking, then putting the phone away. He points to the person Charlie is arguing with, Hunter Kozak, and emphasizes what the video shows about Mikey: he seems to see Charlie get hit and “simply walks away.” Mikey later reappears on the other side of the tent, not running but walking. The account questions whether Mikey might be on the phone, though it isn’t certain. Security guards are described as doing their part, while Mikey is shown “walking, like getting far away from everything.” The narrative suggests Mikey turned his back on the incident after it happened. Speaker 2 names Mikey McCoy, Charlie Kirk’s chief of staff and friend, describing what he did or did not do during the morning. The speaker asserts that Mikey “spent the whole morning dutifully and loyally by Charlie’s side filming everything,” but then “abandoned Charlie in the very instant Charlie was killed.” The key questions posed are whether Charlie was actually dead, whether he needed help, and whether Mikey rushed to aid him or instead got his camera out. The speaker concludes that, according to the account, “Mikey McCoy didn't care about Charlie Kirk at all and just left him behind.” In summary, the described sequence presents Mikey McCoy as being present with Charlie prior to the shooting, then engaging in texting and moving away, appearing on the far side of the tent, and ultimately turning his back on Charlie after the incident, with the claim that he abandoned him as Charlie passed. The recounting is reinforced by a second speaker who reiterates that Mikey did not assist Charlie and appeared to prioritize other actions over Charlie’s welfare.

Speaker expresses panic and intent to text his leftist trans lover with every detail of what he did, claiming he’d planned for a week. "Engrave the bullets." He narrates: "Disassemble the rifle. Reassemble the rifle. Disassemble the rifle. Disassemble the rifle. Reassemble the rifle without a screwdriver while running." He says, "Put it in the woods. Covered it in a towel. I did this for you, and send." He ends with: "Alright. It's a good thing that I, Tyler Robinson, someone who has a four point o GPA and a 34 on the ACT, is smart enough to know that there is no way that the FBI could ever get ahold of my text messages."

Speaker questions the narrative: 'random trans shooter' on the roof who 'took this shot' and was 'undetected' because the FBI released video footage. He asks if this means 'he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior' and wonders 'why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?' He questions the lack of footage—'why don't we have any images of this kid leaving the school?' and 'video footage of this kid jumping off the roof?' He says, 'he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' and argues, 'you definitely wouldn't carry the rifle with you' to blend in, citing 'an American flag shirt on.' He references 'criminal minds' and BAU, concluding, 'This is weird, guys. This is freaking weird.'

Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson, who stated that his roommate referring to Robinson made a joke on Discord. He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point. Discord said: "In a statement to NBC News, a Discord spokesperson said the company did identify an account belonging to the suspect, but said the messages mentioned in the news conference were not believed to have been sent on Discord." "The messages referenced in recent reporting about planning details do not appear to be Discord messages." These were communications between the roommate and a friend after the shooting, where the roommate was recounting the contents of a note the suspect had left elsewhere; "The messages aren't between Tyler, the alleged shooter, and his roommate." They were about Tyler, not from him. This seems to contradict the governor's claims; "The governor never mentioned that these communications were between the roommate and another person." The governor started by saying the roommate told the FBI that Tyler sent him a joke, and then goes on to detail how Tyler allegedly told the roommate to watch over the area where the gun was placed. But asking someone to watch the area where the gun was placed doesn't sound like a joke. It sounds like a deliberate order to assist with the cover up of an assassination. And now, the shooter's own grandmother says the FBI have the wrong man: "There is no way Robinson could be involved. ... I don't think he ever shot a gun to tell you the truth, ... He doesn't own any guns." Up until this point, we haven't heard from the father or any other family members. This raises a very serious issue because right now there are two pieces of evidence that the FBI and the governor of Utah is presenting to the public as evidence that Tyler is the shooter. One is that his father convinced Tyler to turn himself in, and two, the supposed Discord messages. With the Discord messages already being called into question, and since we haven't heard from his father, we shouldn't consider this case closed.

An alleged murder was discussed with text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it. It also offered a very intimate portrait into the relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, "my love, and I wanna protect you, my love." The attorney said the suspect not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. On the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner. So a very interesting and, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David.

Speaker 0 asks for the person's name and questions their reason for being there. They accuse the person of texting a 15-year-old, which the person denies. Speaker 0 threatens to call the police and demands to see the person's phone. The person tries to leave but is stopped and urged to stay and talk.

So everyone knows that these text messages are insanely fake, right? No one refers to their car as a vehicle, unless you're in law enforcement. Nobody says squad car. You would just say, Oh my God, I just saw a cop. No 22 year old refers to their parent as my old man. I left the rifle wrapped in a towel. Nobody would write step by step. And when he talks about the engravings, he says, mostly a big meme. You gotta read these texts for yourself, because nobody talks like this. Nobody texts like this, and no young person uses the words vehicle, drop point. This is just way too convenient.

Did you read the file? Six women involved. Do you own a black Toyota Sienna, Miss Trevor? Yes. Why refer to him as a woman? The suspect identifies as female. Is that how you got into the women's shelter? I am a woman, and they must accept women. Nothing changes what you did. Where were you on April 17th? At home, washing my hair. We have a witness confirming that. You're just a psycho looking for a way out. I have to be an ally for my daughter. This guy is manipulating the system. DNA results show a man. Why waste time with her? She’s a man. You have ten minutes, then cut her loose. There’s a serial killer out there; we don’t want her to be a victim. Did you show him a TikTok video? Yes.

The speakers discuss a text message where someone claims to give 50% of their income to their father. Speaker 1 is confused and doesn't understand the meaning behind it. Speaker 0 suggests that someone should ask the person involved for clarification. Speaker 1 admits they don't know and have nothing to say about it. Speaker 0 points out that the text message is evidence of the claim. Speaker 1 reluctantly agrees. The conversation ends with Speaker 1 feeling like they are being pushed to leave and expressing frustration about the length of the interview.

The speaker says the person of interest was on call for work extracting eyeballs and needed to be sharp. He said he made choices, and that he didn't have much time to live. The speaker keeps a text message private because they write to people and doesn't know what their friend would think about sharing it. The speaker says to tell him they love him, he's still their best friend, and hopes he doesn't kill anybody else and surrenders himself for the sake of his family. The speaker doesn't want to see him killed and doesn't want him to give up on life or kill himself. The speaker called the police because of the text. The speaker says they had separate lives and never had in-depth conversations. The speaker's name is David Carlson. The speaker doesn't want him to be remembered as a crazy right winger gone nuts.

"We have seen, an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it." "But, also, it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect." "A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him my love, and I wanna protect you, my love." "So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case." "And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner." "So a very interesting and, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David."

On 09/10/2025, the roommate received a text from Robinson: "drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard." The roommate found a note: "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it." Police found a photograph of the note. In a later exchange, Robinson says he is "still okay, my love," but "I'm stuck in Orem... I gotta grab my rifle still." He adds, "I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you." The roommate asks, "You weren't the one who did it. Right?" Robinson: "I am." They discuss planning for "a bit over a week," leaving no evidence, and the risk of being seen near a drop point. They mention "grandpa's rifle," possible prints, and a squad car nearby. The feds released "a photo of the rifle," and it is "very unique." He notes MAGA: "since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard MAGA." He says, "I'm gonna turn myself in willingly." He warns: "If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent."