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Enhancing the Chinese economy may have long-term consequences for us. It is crucial to minimize our investment and gradually reduce our dependence on Chinese trade. However, finding the right approach to achieve this is challenging.

We will save over a trillion dollars by withdrawing from the Paris Climate Treaty.

The speaker claims to help the environment while creating jobs, enabling them to stand up to the Americans from a position of strength. In response to criticisms about oil and gas subsidies and the industrial carbon tax, the speaker states that capital cost allowances are standard across corporate garments of industry. They claim to have answered this question previously, suggesting the questioner doesn't understand the tax code. The speaker also states that the biggest component of that was the cost of building.

Canada has opportunities in carbon capture, small modular reactors, and hydrogen, and could be a clean energy superpower. Mark Carney's ideas about energy omit the fact that Canada produces less than 1.5% of total global emissions. Even if Canada were wiped off the map, it wouldn't matter. Also, about 96% of all the machinery for climate change is made in China.

Xu Qinhua, host of Dialogue at CGTN, joined Glenn to discuss Donald Trump’s meeting with Xi Jinping in Beijing on 05/14/2026, including the atmosphere, objectives, and key issues shaping China–U.S. relations. Xu Qinhua said the day’s atmosphere was “very positive.” Trump was impressed by the welcoming ceremony, reviewing the ceremonial guards with Xi Jinping, visits to the Temple of Heaven, and a state banquet. The leaders spent the morning in discussions with their teams, then met at the Temple of Heaven in the afternoon. In the evening, they attended a state banquet hosted by the presidency. Xi Jinping’s speech emphasized that China–U.S. should be “partners rather than rivals,” while Trump’s warm response highlighted shared values between Chinese and Americans and referenced long engagement between the peoples over about 250 years. Trump cited early U.S. contact with China in 1784, including the arrival of a U.S. ship, Chinese terms for newcomers, Chinese workers helping link the Pacific and Atlantic through a continental railroad, the establishment of Tsinghua University, U.S.-China allied cooperation during World War II, and Confucius being respected in the U.S. Xu Qinhua said both sides agreed on a vision described as “strategic constructive… strategic stability” to guide the relationship for the next three years or even beyond. Glenn raised the broader concern that Trump’s administrations, and more broadly U.S. views that China is the main peer rival, often place China in the spotlight. He referenced Xi Jinping’s idea of overcoming the “Thucydides’ trap” and asked about prospects for easing the economic war shaped by trade, technology, and tariffs. Xu Qinhua said Xi Jinping meant overcoming the trap and setting a new model for major-power relationships. Xu described China and the U.S. as peers in terms of economy, high-tech development, innovation, and military capabilities, arguing that how they handle the relationship affects not only both countries but global stability. He said trade used to serve as a “ballast” stabilizer because of investment and exports, but the relationship is now again at a challenging time involving trade war, tech war, and tariffs. Xu said both sides were discussing the possibility of a “new model” of coexistence, emphasizing “cooperation” and limiting “zero sum” thinking. Glenn asked what specific issues must be resolved, including whether the focus is tariffs, chip export limitations, or China’s willingness to export rare earths, and noted U.S. interest in Chinese purchases of U.S. energy and agriculture. Xu Qinhua responded that they were discussing building a “border for trade” and a “board of investment” to institutionalize dialogues and communications to address individual issues regularly rather than in isolated cases. Xu said from China’s perspective the trade war has brought suffering to both sides; China’s exports continued to grow even as U.S. tariff efforts did not stop Chinese exports. Xu said the Chinese side was pragmatic about expanding trade in areas that are not sensitive, such as advanced chips, and that U.S. companies could be willing to sell items like oil, agriculture products (including soybeans and beef), and Boeing airplanes if trade targets fall outside high-tech and national-security sensitivities. He said China’s theme is cooperation-focused “strategic stability,” with limited competition, and communication across multiple areas including military and trade. Xu argued trade itself is mutually beneficial and that trade imbalance is not the real issue, tying underlying concerns to the U.S. role as the supplier of the major reserve currency. On energy security, Glenn described U.S. efforts to reduce exports from key energy exporters and replace them with U.S. supplies, including claims about Europe after Nord Stream and a push for U.S. centrality in energy infrastructure and sales. Xu Qinhua said China has concern about over-reliance on U.S. oil and LNG and forming reliance on the U.S. market amid negative U.S. media coverage and low trust. He said China has diversified exports to ASEAN, Southeast Asia, African countries, Latin America, and European markets, and diversified energy sources so reliance on a single source is usually not over 20%, with oil and gas coming from Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Ghana, among others. Xu said China is rapidly developing renewable energy (EVs, solar panels, and wind turbines), investing in nuclear power plants under construction, and also has coal resources and technology to transform coal into gas so that coal can provide electricity in worst-case scenarios. He linked this to energy security being both about sufficient supply and access to energy resources globally. Glenn raised Taiwan as a central security issue and asked how central it was in talks and whether a reduced-tension common meeting point existed. Xu Qinhua said Xi Jinping raised Taiwan as expected in discussions with Trump, calling it the most important issue between China and the U.S. and warning that mishandling it could put the overall relationship in jeopardy. Xu said the Chinese side increased the volume and severity of its messaging, warning that Taiwan separatist activity threatens regional peace and stability; Xu said arms sales to Taiwan embolden secessionists and create security risks. Xu said the U.S. “one China” principle has been hollowed out, citing that while a 1982 communiqué foundation includes that the U.S. would reduce arms sales until zero, Xu claimed the U.S. has increased arms sales to Taiwan. Xu argued that if Washington truly cared about peace, it would make clear to separatists that it opposes Taiwan independence and support peaceful reunification efforts, which Xu said would remove a persistent irritant and allow cooperation on issues such as AI governance and crises including the Strait of Hormuz and Ukraine. Xu added that even with U.S. intervention, Taiwan purchases of arms would not match Mainland capabilities, and he said U.S. support for separatists would fail to slow China’s modernization. Glenn asked about Iran and the Strait of Hormuz as an issue discussed between Xi and Trump. Xu Qinhua said the leaders’ discussions covered the Iranian crisis. Xu said some U.S. media coverage claimed Trump should pressure China to pressure the Iranians, but Xu said the “wrong approach” would be pressure from Washington; Xu said Beijing has nothing to do with the crisis and that the crisis is tied to a war launched by Washington and the Israelis without UN authorization, without proper explanation, and without legitimacy. Xu said China and the U.S. share some common interest in opening the Strait of Hormuz because Gulf nations’ exports rely on it and because China purchases about 50–40% of its energy from the region. Xu said Washington would need to restrain demands, respect the fact that it launched the war and failed to achieve its goals, and accept reality, while the Chinese side would help seek a long-term deal and stable relationship between the U.S. and Iran. Xu said the U.S. side had not been seen as earnest or faithful in resolving the problem. When Glenn asked how this aligns with a common stance that Iran should not have nuclear weapons, Xu Qinhua said he did not see tensions upcoming between China and Iran. Xu said multiple oil tankers were navigating the Strait of Hormuz with limited disruption, and that about 90% of Iranian oil exports go to China, meaning there is no point for China to ask for tolls on tankers destined for China. Xu said if Iranian control or tolls occur, China would not oppose, especially if the U.S. refuses compromise, refuses to lift sanctions, and does not allow normal business with other countries. Xu described the key issue as how long the U.S. will tolerate inflationary pressure and how the U.S. continues its approach against what he characterized as an Iranian blockade against the U.S. blockade. In closing, Glenn asked whether the meeting would produce a “grand bargain” or only minor tweaks to resolve disputes. Xu Qinhua said the encounter was significant, not only between the leaders but also because top executives mingled and talked, which Xu said could increase understanding and opportunities for engagement that had been absent for nine years or longer. Xu said 2026 could be a milestone year for China–U.S. relations due to frequent future meeting opportunities: Trump’s invitation for Xi to visit the U.S. in late September, plus further opportunities on the sidelines of APEC in Shenzhen and the G20 summit in the U.S. Xu said they had found the “right approach” of constructive strategic stability with cooperation-focused limited competition, moving away from zero-sum mentality, which Xu said could benefit both sides and the world.

Joe Biden's energy policies are causing high inflation and hitting American families hard. He reversed actions that achieved energy independence and canceled the Keystone XL Pipeline. By reentering the Paris climate accord and blocking new oil, gas, and coal production, he is raising energy costs and hurting industries like food, shipping, and manufacturing. China benefits from these high energy prices, driving our heavy industry overseas. To become an advanced manufacturing nation, we need low-cost energy. Biden's energy agenda aligns with China's, as they sign global climate deals and break them. When I'm back in the White House, I'll bring back a pro-American energy policy, eliminating unnecessary regulations and approving energy projects quickly. This will create jobs, restore hope, and make America great again.

The Loan Program Office supplied a little over $40 billion in its fifteen years. Almost $100 billion was then supplied in the 76 days between the election loss and President Trump's inauguration. The speaker questions why, if these were beneficial ideas, they weren't implemented in the two and a half years after the Inflation Reduction Act. According to the speaker, the previous administration changed terms and loan covenants, attempting to complicate unwinding their actions. The speaker asserts this is not a responsible way to handle taxpayer money or advance the energy system. They state that they inherited a mess, but it is fixable with an aggressive team. They claim American energy prices are down and investments to bring jobs back are up, but acknowledge the need for cleanup.

China, Russia, and India have significant pollution issues. I withdrew from the Paris Accord because it unfairly burdened the U.S. with costs, potentially harming millions of jobs and thousands of businesses. While China and Russia have lenient standards, we would have faced immediate restrictions. Our environmental efforts have led to the cleanest air and water, along with the best carbon emission standards in years.

Canada has opportunities in carbon capture, small modular reactors, and hydrogen, and could be a clean energy superpower. Mark Carney's ideas about energy omit the fact that Canada produces less than 1.5% of total global emissions. Even if Canada were wiped off the map, it wouldn't matter. Also, about 96% of all the machinery for climate change is made in China.

Climate change is a pressing issue with devastating consequences. Countries like China are capitalizing on renewable energy and electric vehicle technologies. Canada must acknowledge climate change, shape its economic strategy accordingly, and ensure competitiveness in a declining oil and gas market. Failure to do so threatens economic prosperity. The government of Canada is investing $300 million to support hydrogen operations.

Professor Robert Pape warned on X that within ten days parts of the global economy will start running short of critical goods, based on thirty years studying economic sanctions and blockades. He said this would bring not just higher prices but shortages, and that markets are not ready for this. The Kobelisi letter stated the world is experiencing its biggest energy crisis in history with 600,000,000 barrels of lost oil supply, US gas prices up 47% since December, and inflation approaching 4% in a path similar to the 1970s. The discussion then touched on Iran’s war potentially returning to open conflict. The United States seized an Iranian-flagged cargo ship, which Larry Johnson described as piracy and an act of war aimed at clearing the Strait of Hormuz; Tehran called it armed piracy and promised a response. JD Vance was headed to Islamabad for talks, though Iranian officials said they had not agreed to anything. Fox’s Tel Aviv correspondent relayed that Trump told him they would blow up everything in Iran if they didn’t come to the table, saying the deal would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and prevent Iran from possessing highly enriched uranium. Professor Pape, director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats at the University of Chicago and author of Escalation Trap on Substack, joined the program. He referenced his April 12 post predicting shortages within forty-five to sixty days and described three stages: Stage one, the first ~45 days with price increases; Stage two (40–60 days) with shortages emerging; Stage three (day 60–90) with worsening shortages and then contraction, beginning around May 31. He explained that shortages would escalate into reduced production of commodities, fewer airline seats, and broader disruptions across supply chains. Pape detailed the implications for air travel and energy: jet fuel shortages could cause European and global aviation reductions, with Europe’s ~110,000,000 monthly air passengers dropping to potentially 80 million or fewer as fuel becomes scarce; cargo, mail, and just-in-time deliveries would be affected, and overall product availability would contract. He argued that 20% of the world’s oil passes through the Strait of Hormuz and that Iran’s potential shutdown and the U.S. response would complicate efforts to keep that oil flowing. He emphasized that the contraction would begin even as oil access becomes more difficult and other nations (including the U.S.) struggle to secure energy. The conversation then shifted to China. Pape noted that in China, the impact on GDP could be modest (about 1%), but the U.S. could be drawn into a larger conflict that could benefit China. He observed China’s preparation for energy independence: stockpiling oil, relying on solar, nuclear, and coal, and maintaining a robust energy strategy even during tensions with the U.S. He suggested that tariffs and conflicts did not significantly disrupt China’s planning, which could lead to China gaining relative advantage as the U.S. faces a widening energy and economic crisis. There was discussion about the United States’ energy independence. Pape stated he has long advocated energy independence since 2005, but warned that the broader picture involves debt, energy policy, and strategic choices that could threaten American leadership. He stressed the need for a concrete five-year plan to navigate the crisis without harming the economy in the short term and cautioned against escalating war in Iran. In addressing the everyday impact, the speakers considered who would be hardest hit: the poorest, and particularly non-college-educated white working-class voters, who had experienced the largest deterioration in income since 1990. The conversation included proposals to mitigate consumer pain, such as targeted economic measures for working Americans affected by rising gas prices, potentially including tax considerations or subsidies for those whose jobs require fuel, while avoiding broad handouts. Pape reiterated that his Escalation Trap Substack presents a framework based on twenty-one years of modeling the bombing of Iran and indicates that the stages he predicted are unfolding faster than anticipated, with a focus on concrete policy options that could be enacted by May 1. He emphasized that his analysis centers on consequences for ordinary people and urged practical policy steps to address the crisis.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss China’s energy strategy and its impact on technology and transportation. - Energy security and abundance: Speaker 0 notes that energy security is critical for China and that China has developed significant energy abundance, contrasting it with Western Europe’s move away from coal and nuclear. He suggests China’s position supports its AI leadership by avoiding power restrictions seen in the United States. - Nuclear energy expansion: Speaker 1 confirms China’s rapid growth in nuclear power, mentioning reports of 17 new nuclear power plants, and then 50, with the count continually increasing. He ties this to daily life examples, stating an indoor ski park in Shenzhen is powered by nuclear energy from a nearby plant, highlighting the southern China context (Shenzhen/Hong Kong) and high summer electricity demand. He also recalls historical opposition to nuclear projects in the 1980s as part of long-term planning by the Chinese central government to ensure energy independence. - Energy independence and long-term planning: The conversation emphasizes that China has been planning for decades to achieve energy independence through domestic energy production, including nuclear energy. - Battery technology and EVs: Speaker 0 points out CATL’s recent breakthrough in battery technology, noting a nickel manganese cobalt addition to lithium that yields high energy density and lower battery weight, implying a competitive edge in EVs. He contrasts China’s ability to supply advanced batteries with the American restriction on buying Chinese EVs, and mentions Canada’s potential deal to import Chinese vehicles, suggesting China’s hold on leading EV tech. - EV adoption and oil reliance: Speaker 1 agrees that China’s EV push is strategic for energy independence from crude oil, countering past criticism that China’s EV effort was a “dead end.” He states that about 60% of new vehicles are EVs (up from ~50%), and attributes increased EV demand to Middle Eastern events. He notes that a surplus of EVs from China’s production last year is being rapidly sold, with exports doubling since the Middle Eastern conflict began in March. - COVID- and political commentary: The speakers touch briefly on political context, including a humorous remark about Donald Trump inadvertently boosting Chinese EV exports, suggesting he could be seen as helping to export the Chinese EV industry. They joke about awarding him a commission, framing it as a surprising accelerant to Chinese EV sales. - Summary sentiment: The discussion centers on China’s nuclear expansion, its pursuit of energy independence, advances in battery technology, the rapid shift to electric vehicles, and the resulting impact on oil reliance and export growth, with a light aside on geopolitical factors influencing demand.

A Chinese company is planning to build an electric vehicle battery plant in Michigan and intends to bring 20 to 50 Chinese nationals to the United States. Concerns are raised about the potential for espionage by these individuals on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party. It is believed that the Chinese government will exploit this opportunity to gather intelligence and gain economic advantages that are contrary to the interests of the United States. It is crucial to use intelligence capabilities to monitor their activities and protect national security. The construction of these plants is seen as a significant threat and should not proceed.

Ranking member Raskin is creating a "boogeyman" that isn't there. The speaker authored the EPA chapter on project 2020 5, but did not work with President Trump or his campaign. The speaker is not vying for a position in the next administration and now lives in Mississippi. The leading candidate is running away from policy actions that make Americans' lives difficult. Vice President Kamala Harris did not answer when asked if Americans are better off than they were 4 years ago. Most Americans are struggling with expensive gas, electricity, and groceries due to the Biden-Harris Administration's day 1 energy policies. Since January 2021, President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and Congressional Democrats have taken over 250 actions that make it harder to produce energy in America. Actions include stopping the Keystone XL Pipeline, issuing a moratorium on new oil and gas permits on federal lands, greenlighting Putin's Nord Stream 2 pipeline, rejoining the Paris climate agreement, blocking the Twin Metals mine, and slowing permits for LNG facilities.

The Loan Program Office supplied a little over $40 billion in its fifteen years, then almost $100 billion in the 76 days between the election loss and President Trump's inauguration. The speaker questions why these actions weren't taken in the two and a half years after the Inflation Reduction Act passed. According to the speaker, the previous administration changed terms and loan covenants, attempting to complicate any unwinding of their actions. The speaker characterizes this as irresponsible treatment of taxpayer money and detrimental to energy system progress. The speaker states that while they inherited a mess, it is fixable. They claim their team is aggressively addressing the issues, resulting in lower American energy prices and increased investments bringing jobs back to America.

Afshun Rutansi speaks with Professor Zhang Weiwei, director of the China Institute at Fudan University, who has translated for Chinese paramount leaders including Deng Xiaoping. Rutansi frames the discussion around Trump’s visit to China amid the Israel-Iran war context and events including officials meeting in Delhi and a reported Saudi initiative for a West Asian aggression pact with Iran ahead of Putin’s and Xi Jinping’s scheduled meeting in Beijing. Rutansi asks whether Chinese officials understand that Xi Jinping is meeting a U.S. president responsible for attacking one of China’s key energy trading partners. Zhang says many Chinese prefer Trump over Harris for being “slightly more honest,” and contrasts Trump’s “decent respect” for big powers such as Russia and China with perceived hypocrisy from Biden and Harris. He argues that China should manage damage through dialogue given U.S.-China as the two largest economies and military powers. Rutansi raises historical memory, arguing that the U.S. deliberately prevented China from buying grain during Mao’s famine and imposed a naval blockade of food. Zhang responds that, during the Cold War, although no “hot wars” occurred between the U.S. and Soviet Union, China faced the Korean War and the Vietnam War as direct military confrontation with the U.S., and that China remembers the U.S. drawing lessons from those conflicts and that China would fight back if “red lines” were crossed. On claims that Trump is “destroying China while smiling” and attacking China’s energy supplies, Zhang says operations tied to Venezuela and Iran are aimed at controlling oil China needs. He says Venezuela represents less than 3% of China’s total oil imports, so it “will not affect” China’s oil supply, while the Iran situation is “more serious” and is treated as a mistake from which China can benefit due to long-term energy planning pursued for about two decades. Zhang says China’s energy dependency on foreign supply is at maximum 15%, and outlines China’s current energy mix: about 52% from coal described as “processed green coal,” 20% from renewables, and the rest from traditional oil and gas, with roughly 70% of those fuels from foreign sources. He lists diversified oil supply routes including lines from Russia, Central Asia, and Myanmar, and highlights a railway connection between China and Iran as “hugely important for Iran.” Rutansi asks whether this railway was bombed as part of a U.S.-Israeli campaign; Zhang says the U.S. “really dare[s]” not to damage it overall and that on the whole it is still moving. Zhang links U.S. efforts to containment with previous trade and tech wars starting in 2018, saying they “failed completely,” and cites an ASPI report comparing critical high-tech technologies where he claims China beats the U.S. in 57 of 64. He argues China’s position is that the Strait of Hormuz should remain open and places responsibility for the crisis’s consequences on U.S. and Israeli military action, while also saying China has “strategic partner” relations with Iran and Gulf states and hopes for reconciliation between Iran and the Gulf States. In part two, Rutansi asks why China was not hosting or acting as intermediary in negotiations and whether China spoke through Pakistan. Zhang says China prefers “behind the scene, low key” approaches. Rutansi then addresses claims that China could use rare earths as leverage and asks why China exports rare earths to the U.S. Zhang says China has exercised stricter control over rare earth exports to the U.S. since the previous year, stating that for a one-year period there would be no rare earths for military purposes, and that China can exercise this control during negotiations. Rutansi asks whether China will reduce exposure to U.S. treasury markets; Zhang says China-U.S. trade relations are normal overall, but that Trump’s trade war led to a sharp drop, and describes China’s “socialist market economy” as driven by private and public enterprises. He rejects “moralistic perspective” as the main lens, stating that China follows international law and Chinese law, condemns aggression, and applies sanctions through the United Nations if necessary. Rutansi criticizes propaganda narratives and asks about the U.N. General Assembly president Annalina Beerbok calling Xi Jinping a dictator, asking whether that makes things difficult for China and the U.N. Zhang argues the issue lies in EU politics and what he calls low caliber of EU, U.S., and NATO leadership, and says he predicted that without political reform, worse leaders would be elected. On whether working classes in NATO countries will see through propaganda that China is the enemy, Zhang says opinion surveys show China’s impression improving gradually in Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, and in the West, especially among young people, attributing this in part to widespread use of Chinese hardware and software. He also explains that American and other foreign companies invested in China because of profits, and says the trade war and tech war drove high-tech firms to consolidate business interests in China; he mentions Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, and says Boeing has not been purchased in nine years while Boeing’s CEO is now in China.

China is using green technology to make the United States and other developed countries dependent on them. They expect Western countries to reduce fossil fuel emissions and go green, while they themselves don't take responsibility for historic global warming. This strategy is dishonest and subverts the United States' national security by making it reliant on China for energy. Wind, solar, and electric vehicles all rely on rare earth minerals, which China controls. They have no environmental regulations and process the majority of rare earths. China is also the sole producer of refined graphite used in EV batteries. Despite this dependence, politicians are pushing for green mandates without considering the implications of relying on China. This situation is frustrating and puts the US at risk of being owned by China.

The deindustrialization of Germany seems like a market, what, move towards insanity. Oh, And this remarkable situation where China and India are industrializing at a rate that leaves Europe and its negligible effect on the environment in the dust Right. And increasingly so and at an ever accelerating rate. All of the industry that's leaving Europe and the West in general is localizing in China and in India. China's building coal fired plants at a rate that's just staggering and we all breathe the same The whole bloody climate change narrative is a scam and a lie. It's not warming up, it's increased variability.

Speaker 0 questions whether the “woke era” is a failed experiment and references ESG and DEI as part of that push, noting a shift toward talking in practical terms about what can be done. Speaker 1 reflects on the pendulum of society, noting that BlackRock manages money for a wide range of investors. He says, today, renewables are less talked about, but many investors worldwide are investing in renewables, emphasizing solar and related technologies. He mentions working with Occidental Petroleum to build carbon capture factories in Texas. He states that the pendulum five years ago was too far and that he is personally more pragmatic. He asks whether BlackRock pushed some companies a little left of center, clarifying that it was never their intention because their job is to be a fiduciary to everyone who gives them money. He explains their responsibility: if an investor wants to invest 100% in hydrocarbons in Texas, they will invest the full amount in Texas; if another state fund wants them to invest in all green energy, they will do that because it’s their money. Speaker 1 emphasizes that today, due to AI and the overwhelming need for power and electricity, energy strategy cannot be one-dimensional. It cannot be solely hydrocarbon. He notes that China is rapidly building more nuclear than any other country, has the largest solar fields, yet remains the biggest importer of gas and oil. He concludes that, more importantly today, society has moved into a better position of having more pragmatism, and what Speaker 1 is expressing echoes what their clients are saying.

Crooked Joe Biden and the Democrats want to shut down all US coal plants, despite the lessons learned in Germany and other places. Meanwhile, China is rapidly building one large coal plant per week. This is concerning because it seems like the USA is heading towards self-destruction. We must prevent this from happening by eliminating the Green News scam, which is a total fraud and is detrimental to our country.

The speaker claims to help the environment while creating jobs, enabling economic independence and strength against the Americans. Regarding criticisms about oil and gas subsidies and the industrial carbon tax, the speaker states that capital cost allowances are standard across corporate garments of industry. They claim to have answered this question previously, suggesting critics don't understand the tax code. The speaker also acknowledges that the biggest component of cost was building.