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The discussion centers on whether school policy penalizes students for misusing pronouns and whether such penalties amount to harassment or suspension. The first speaker raises the core question: “For clarification, is this the policy that's used if a student misuses a pronoun they are suspended? An intentional. Yeah. That's part of the definition, bullying.” They illustrate the concern with a hypothetical: if a student’s parents raise their child to respond to a female with she pronouns, but that student says “I want to be something else,” will their child be suspended for that? The implication is that misusing or resisting pronoun usage could trigger disciplinary action under the policy. The chain of reasoning then states: “Oh yeah that would be harassment.” The speaker expresses disbelief upon learning that students might be suspended “because they are using the wrong pronoun,” stating they were aghast and did not realize that such suspensions occur. The subsequent line shows a pushback from another participant: “Should be disagree with you saying that's incorrect.” This introduces a contest over whether suspending for pronoun usage is correct, but the rebuttal immediately pivots to a claim about biological facts: “Well, one is biologically facts.” The conversation asserts: “It's actually XX chromosomes, XY chromosomes. Those are facts. We can't change those. It doesn't matter what our opinion is. We can't change those things.” The speaker emphasizes that these chromosomal facts are immutable. From there, the speaker clarifies their main question: “Those are immutable facts. And I'm wondering, are we what I'm asking, my question is, are we suspending students for immutable facts? That's what I'm asking. Not for making it as genuine.” In sum, the exchange presents a concern that disciplinary actions related to pronoun use might target individuals based on disagreements about gender identity and pronouns, and it juxtaposes this with a claim about immutable biological facts (XX and XY chromosomes) as a basis for questioning whether suspensions are being applied to immutable facts rather than to conduct. The dialogue frames a tension between policy definitions of harassment and a set of assertions about biological determinism, seeking to determine whether suspensions are being imposed for immutable factual claims rather than for misbehavior.

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The speaker questions if the council agrees they must always seek the best knowledge and stop harmful policies. The meeting chair interrupts due to time constraints, leading to a discussion about fairness in enforcing rules. The speaker reiterates their question about the council's obligation.

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Adam Gillette from Accuracy Media confronts Tamara Nowitzky about DEI work at the university, alleging that the department was still engaging in DEI in defiance of state law and that only wording had been changed. Gillette asks if this is true. Nowitzky repeatedly responds, I can't comment, to questions about compliance with the law and whether the department has subverted it by altering language. Gillette presses further, presenting a video in which Nowitzky allegedly said she had to change the words because people are dumb. He asks if she said that, and whether the department is complying with the law or subverting it by changing words. Nowitzky again declines to comment, saying, I can't comment, and does not provide direct answers to whether there were thoughts or criticisms about taxpayers who oppose funding DEI, potential loss of state or federal funds, or a message to legislators who passed a law banning DEI at universities. Gillette notes that Nowitzky had commented extensively in the video, and asks for clarification about whether she misspoke or if the statements are accurate. Nowitzky responds with fragmented phrases: “I can't come,” followed by partial words from Gillette’s prompt, and then, “Most of your progressive. Of your faculty faculty,” seemingly offering insufficient, disconnected remarks. Gillette continues to seek any thoughts on whether a predominantly progressive faculty fosters a welcoming environment for students who don’t share those values, but Nowitzky again says, I can't comment. Gillette indicates that investigators spoke with several staffers and found that the psychology department and other departments had changed wording but were continuing the same DEI work. He asks Nowitzky for comments on these findings. Nowitzky states that the university is “fully compliant with House Bill four and all federal laws and policies and procedures with respect to that issue.” He acknowledges this while also noting concerns raised by Tamara Nowitzky in the psychology department about the claim that they “just changed the words because people are dumb.” In closing, Gillette mentions the recorded comments and complaints alleging that the university continued DEI work in defiance of state law, despite the purported word changes. The exchange ends with Nowitzky reiterating the university’s position of compliance and presenting the conflicting claim from a department member about altering wording, rather than altering the underlying DEI work.

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Speaker 0 asks representatives from MIT, Penn, and Harvard if calling for the genocide of Jews violates their respective institutions' code of conduct. Speaker 1 from MIT states that chants calling for the elimination of Jewish people can be investigated as harassment if pervasive and severe. Speaker 2 from Penn says that if the speech becomes conduct, it can be considered harassment. Speaker 3 from Harvard mentions that anti-Semitic rhetoric crossing into bullying, harassment, or intimidation is actionable conduct. Speaker 0 insists that the answer should be a clear yes, and criticizes the representatives for their responses.

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The speaker asks if the other person has received any emails from colleagues, but the other person wants to know the question. The speaker then mentions that the State Department's internal email system has added pronouns to the "from" line without people's choice. They question why this decision was made and who made it. The other person says they haven't seen this phenomenon and offers to look into it. The speaker insists that it should be a choice and not imposed by the State Department, especially if the pronouns are incorrect. The other person agrees to investigate and thanks everyone.

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The speaker denies inventing the state law banning DEI in higher education. Student-funded programs are not affected by changes in regulation and law. Programs are being moved to student activity fee funding to circumvent the ban. Department money cannot be used for outreach and education, but partnerships with student government are allowed. Although scholarships are taxpayer-funded, student funding is not affected by regulation. The name of DEI programs may be adjusted for logistical and political purposes. The goal is to maintain services for students, despite potential adjustments to program names.

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Trans students on this campus feel victimized by your presence. You mentioned this man's transition, but earlier you dismissed their concerns. Life's tough, get a helmet. I can't handle this, next question.

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Equity work is still happening on campus. There have been renamings, revisions, and recalibrations of news.

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The discussion revolves around the impact of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) on medicine. The speaker believes that lowering standards for doctors due to DEI programs could lead to more mistakes and harm patients. However, there is a disagreement about whether these standards have actually been lowered, with one side claiming evidence of such changes at Duke University. The conversation ends with a disagreement on the existence of evidence to support these claims.

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The speaker discusses changes to a DEI policy, including the establishment of a CDO presence on campus. The speaker prefaces their explanation by requesting honesty and expressing confidence that the listener will not reveal the information shared.

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Byron Thedford? That's me. Oh, we received a report that you were pushing DEI in defiance of the state law and seeking loopholes to get around the law. Is that true? It's not. No, sir. You've never talked about pushing loopholes to get around the law? I haven't. No. What about this video?

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The speaker discusses the concept of unstated affirmative action, where colleges or universities prioritize diversity without publicly acknowledging it. They give an example from their law school, emphasizing the importance of diversity during faculty hiring. However, they caution against explicitly stating that a candidate should be preferred for diversity reasons during committee meetings. While this approach is easier to implement for faculty hiring, it becomes more challenging for student admissions due to statistical measures.

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The speaker asks why Ivy League schools receive so much federal funding. Speaker 1 responds that the president has raised this question in discussions with Harvard, Columbia, and other Ivy League institutions. The president created an antisemitism task force with representatives from federal agencies who meet weekly to discuss this issue. Speaker 1 states that many Americans wonder why their tax dollars go to universities that are allegedly indoctrinating students and allowing egregious illegal behavior.

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Adam Killeb from Accuracy and Media states he received a report that the staff is pushing DEI despite the board of trustees ban. He then addresses someone as Janique Sanders.

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The speaker was asked if they believed students protesting were motivated by anti-Semitism or horror at the Gaza slaughter. The speaker dismissed the idea of students being driven by horror and refused to continue the conversation if it was being recorded.

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We can't directly fund DEI programming, so we have been looking for loopholes. The discussion centers on circumventing state law to fund DEI. "We have been looking for loopholes." "So part of this position would be working with some of that. We have some funds through our PBI grant that we would like to dedicate to that." They say the work will continue under a different title because "we had to discontinue the law DEIP" to keep state funding. They explain "Payroll funds are funds that are used. She's used to pay people. Sure." "They come from the state. Do they not?" "Most of them do. Yes." They indicate funding can come from federal sources via "PBI grant," a federally funded initiative. They call it "a marketing thing essentially." They warn taxpayers: "We will catch you."

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Adam Gillette of Accuracy and Media confronted Melissa Newhouse about a report that her department was “explaining how you do DEI and defiance of state law.” Newhouse denied knowledge of that claim, noting their offices were closed when approached by the investigator. In the video that Gillette referenced, Newhouse was shown or described as saying that the buildings “now have to allow the whites and the privileged people.” Newhouse responded that this was not true. She explained that, due to the law, signs and centers that previously targeted one group were changed to be “common” rather than center-specific. She stated that “the whites are there … to help effort” and clarified that the change does not affect their curriculum. During the conversation, another speaker (Speaker 2) confirmed that the class content would still cover topics such as DEI and intersectionality, and that students would continue to learn DEI as part of the curriculum if that is what the class is about. Newhouse was asked if the video showed her voice, and she questioned whether the voice might be AI-generated. She later said, “No. I didn’t,” in response to whether the person in the video was her. Newhouse described changes to the center’s name—from Multicultural Center to Common Center—and claimed the purpose was to ensure “American white people” were represented too. She emphasized that the concept is for students to feel they belong, stating, “Belonging is very important.” She highlighted the leadership team’s diversity and noted ongoing efforts in equity, access, and education, including grants for equity. She claimed these initiatives were funded by corporate money (Apple) and had not been cut, though described as quieter and less university-sponsored. Adam Gillette pressed on whether the department was continuing DEI in defiance of state law and pressed for further clarity about the signs, centers, and curriculum. Newhouse denied that the video showed her saying that whites must be allowed; she insisted the claim was not true and suggested the visuals were AI. She reiterated that the department was still pursuing equity initiatives, with ongoing funding from corporate sources. Toward the end, Gillette stated the interview and Newhouse’s denial left an impression of a disconnect between the video and her stated position, highlighting that Newhouse had initially denied the video but then claimed the voice could be AI, leading to broader questions about authenticity.

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Upon returning from family leave, the speaker was surprised by the overt political environment at the university, particularly regarding DEI. Professors were upset that the university president wouldn't publicly support DEI efforts due to fear of losing funding, despite encouraging them privately. The speaker notes the psychology group was the most involved in DEI-related activities, including teaching critical race theory. The speaker believes DEI is used as a weapon, particularly through Title IX, to control thoughts and words. They cite instances where addressing a class as "you guys" or "ladies" was considered inappropriate or even sexual harassment. The speaker concludes that DEI is not about diversity, equity, or inclusion, but rather a tool for thought and speech control.

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Visually, what you see is that it's gone, but really nothing. Nothing really changed. Alison Bergner explains that due to bills passed in Alabama, we're not able to hire DEI staff anymore that have that title. “each college, we've got college of education, college of business, college of nursing Mhmm.” “So, technically, we are not DEI.” UNA has done a good job at, like, still keeping the resources, and some sister universities like UAH, like, even if their DEI office was a person of one, “they didn't get fired. They just got moved.” We just have had to found trickier, more niche ways to do that, and we're still serving the same students. “Not called the same thing.” The bill is “three pages long. It is super, super vague.” They pass bills that are vague “to placate their voters.” The provost was unable to meet, but she took our information and said she'd get back with us. We never heard from anyone. If you wanna take action, click in the link where you can send one message that goes directly to all of the relevant officials.

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The speaker discusses internal resistance to RFK Jr.’s policies and the idea that “deep staters” have been entrenched in government. They mention being forwarded an anecdote from a “good career employee.” They point to the FDA, noting that when Marty Makary came in, he had only about 10 political appointees he could choose. Jay Bhattacharya at the NIH allegedly had one political appointee. The speaker claims that every government employee is a “deep stater” who has been there a long time and that an email from a good employee circulates a CIA manual called How to Be a Bad Bureaucrat and Subvert an Institution from Within. The email supposedly asserts that 90% of employees at HHS, which has 70,000 employees, are talking in lunchrooms about the manual and telling each other that their job is to save America and save science from the agenda of President Trump and RFK Jr. The speaker asserts this reflects how people think across major departments and asks how to get rid of them, suggesting firing them as a solution, and mentions SIOP in this context. The CDC is presented as a case study of failure, described as a public health disaster in its COVID-19 response. The speaker alleges that the CDC’s guidance on school lockdowns copied directly from a teacher union document with which they were aligned, reproducing paragraphs from the teacher’s union advocating for two years of school shutdowns. It is claimed that the CDC also said that cloth masks were fine. The speaker says the CDC led the response and that the NIH funded the entire pandemic, including gain-of-function research, asserting that this constitutes “the creation of the pandemic.” In contrast, RFK Jr. is said to have fired three employees, and this action is described as national news. The overall narrative emphasizes a view of pervasive internal opposition within federal agencies, a controversial and sweeping critique of the CDC, NIH, and HHS responses to the pandemic, and a framing of RFK Jr.’s personnel decisions as transformative and newsworthy.

Modern Wisdom

It's Way More Corrupt Than You Think

Guests: Eric Weinstein

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Chris Williamson interviews Eric Weinstein, discussing the current state of Harvard and academia, the role of power and privilege, and the implications of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Weinstein expresses concern over the decline of academic rigor and the intertwining of brilliance and power at institutions like Harvard, which he believes is losing its prestige due to a lack of open discourse. Weinstein critiques the narrative-driven approach of Harvard and other institutions, likening it to the editorial practices of The New York Times, where narratives often overshadow factual accuracy. He shares personal experiences, including being barred from attending his own thesis defense, highlighting the opaque and sometimes arbitrary nature of academic processes. The conversation shifts to the challenges faced by Claudine Gay, the president of Harvard, who Weinstein claims faced scrutiny for her handling of free speech policies and academic integrity. He argues that the academic world is plagued by "attribution bullying," where credit for work is often misallocated, and that the current academic environment stifles genuine inquiry and discovery. Weinstein also discusses the implications of DEI initiatives, suggesting that they may prioritize inclusion over merit and lead to a dilution of academic standards. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a rigorous academic environment that values truth and discovery over political correctness. The discussion touches on the broader societal implications of these trends, including the rise of mental health issues among young people, particularly boys, who feel alienated by contemporary educational practices. Weinstein argues for a return to traditional values that recognize the importance of male and female roles in society. As the conversation progresses, Weinstein reflects on the nature of belief and the role of religion in providing a framework for understanding the world. He suggests that while he identifies as an atheist, he acknowledges the value of religious narratives and the communal aspects of faith. The interview concludes with Weinstein expressing hope for the future of science and academia, emphasizing the need for innovative thinking and a return to foundational principles that prioritize genuine inquiry and understanding. He calls for a cultural renaissance that embraces the complexities of human experience while fostering an environment where truth can flourish.

The Rubin Report

Douglas Murray Loses His Cool as He Obliterates Progressive Host with Palestine Facts

Guests: Douglas Murray

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Dave Rubin and Douglas Murray discuss significant events surrounding Harvard University, particularly the resignation of Claudine Gay as president after a brief tenure marked by controversy. Gay's resignation follows her poor performance during a Congressional hearing regarding anti-Semitism and allegations of plagiarism in her academic work. Murray critiques the notion of a two-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, arguing that Hamas would likely win any elections in the West Bank, undermining the legitimacy of the Palestinian Authority. He highlights the selective outrage of some activists who focus on Jewish issues while ignoring other global atrocities. The conversation emphasizes the need for continued scrutiny of institutions like Harvard, which they claim are complicit in fostering anti-Semitism and failing to uphold academic integrity. They also note a decline in Harvard's early action applications, suggesting a shift in public perception. The hosts conclude by stressing the importance of persistence in challenging woke ideologies and institutional failures, advocating for accountability and transparency in academia.

The Origins Podcast

Merit Is Out. Identity Is In. | Janice Fiamengo and Lawrence Krauss on the War on Science

Guests: Janice Fiamengo

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In this episode of the Origins Podcast, Lawrence Krauss interviews Janice Fiamengo about her contribution to his upcoming book, "The War on Science." Fiamengo discusses her experiences with equity hiring in academia, revealing her concerns about the implications of such practices. She reflects on being hired as a woman under equity policies and the resulting feelings of impostor syndrome among recipients of such hiring practices. Fiamengo argues that equity hiring has become more entrenched over decades, often prioritizing identity over merit, which she believes undermines academic standards. She critiques the notion that historic injustices justify current discrimination against individuals based on race or gender. Fiamengo also highlights the problematic nature of hiring practices that equate indigenous knowledge with academic qualifications, suggesting this approach is patronizing and detrimental to both students and faculty. The conversation underscores the tension between equity initiatives and the pursuit of academic excellence, raising questions about the future of scholarship in a politically charged environment.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Met Gala Goes Racial, False Trump NBC Narrative, Affirmative Action Myth, w/ Klavan and Jason Riley

Guests: Jason Riley

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Megyn Kelly opens the show by celebrating National Astronaut Day and reflecting on her recent astronaut special. She mentions President Trump's interview with Kristen Welker, where he sparred over constitutional questions regarding due process for illegal immigrants. Kelly critiques Jen Psaki's reaction to inquiries about Biden's cognitive decline and discusses the upcoming Met Gala, which she describes as politically charged and pandering to black culture, highlighting the involvement of white organizers like Anna Wintour. Andrew Klavan joins the discussion, expressing skepticism about the Met Gala's focus on black fashion, suggesting it reflects a failed elite trying to maintain relevance. He argues that the event symbolizes a disconnect between the wealthy and the general public, criticizing the excesses of the elite and their lack of genuine engagement with societal issues. Klavan emphasizes that the left's cultural dominance has led to a decline in meaningful storytelling and artistic expression, as they prioritize ideology over beauty and truth. Kelly and Klavan discuss the impact of affirmative action on black students, with Klavan asserting that it creates a mismatch between students and institutions, leading to higher dropout rates and reinforcing stereotypes. He argues that the black middle class was growing before affirmative action and that government interventions have often hindered progress. Jason Riley, a columnist and author, joins the conversation to discuss his new book, "The Affirmative Action Myth." He argues that affirmative action policies have not helped the black community as intended and that the black middle class was thriving before such policies were implemented. Riley highlights the importance of personal responsibility and the deterioration of the black family structure as significant factors in the community's challenges. Riley critiques the current cultural narrative that celebrates negative stereotypes in hip-hop while dismissing the achievements of studious black youth. He emphasizes the need for a return to respectability politics, which once encouraged positive behavior and aspirations within the black community. The discussion concludes with Riley expressing concern over colleges' potential non-compliance with the Supreme Court's ruling against affirmative action, predicting that institutions will continue to find ways to prioritize diversity initiatives despite legal challenges.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Biden Panders to Anti-Israel Dems & Cancel Culture Today, w/ Tom Bevan, Josh Holmes & Greg Lukianoff

Guests: Tom Bevan, Josh Holmes, Greg Lukianoff

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Megyn Kelly discusses significant developments regarding President Joe Biden and his family's financial dealings, particularly focusing on allegations of money laundering involving Hunter Biden and Chinese business partners. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has revealed bank records indicating that funds from a Chinese company were funneled to Joe Biden's personal account, purportedly as a loan repayment, raising questions about Biden's ties to these transactions. In a separate segment, Kelly critiques President Biden's recent comments on Israel's response to Hamas, highlighting confusion and potential miscommunication during a fundraising event. She notes a protester, Rabbi Jessica Rosenberg, who interrupted Biden, prompting him to discuss a ceasefire, which many interpret as a concession to Hamas. This has led to backlash from both sides of the political spectrum, with anti-Israel protests intensifying. The discussion shifts to the Democratic Party's internal struggles, particularly regarding Biden's handling of the Israel-Palestine conflict and the pressure from progressive factions demanding a more pro-Palestinian stance. Kelly and her guests, Tom Bevan and Josh Holmes, analyze the implications of Biden's comments and the growing divide within the party, especially in swing states like Michigan. They also touch on the broader societal implications of rising anti-Semitism and the political ramifications for Biden as he navigates these complex issues. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by the Democratic Party in appealing to various voter demographics while maintaining a coherent stance on international relations. The latter part of the show features a discussion on the Republican primary race, focusing on Nikki Haley's rise in the polls and the challenges faced by Ron DeSantis. The hosts analyze the dynamics of the GOP race, emphasizing the need for consolidation among candidates to present a viable alternative to Trump. Finally, the conversation transitions to the topic of cancel culture in academia, with Greg Lukianoff from FIRE discussing the recent resurgence of free speech advocacy on college campuses in light of the Israel-Hamas conflict. He expresses skepticism about the sincerity of universities' newfound commitment to free speech, given their historical track record of suppressing dissenting views. The discussion underscores the ongoing battle for free expression in educational institutions and the need for accountability among university administrations.