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Speaker 0 expresses a view that the government is full of liars, accusing both sides of the political spectrum of dishonesty. The conversation then shifts to a provocative claim: "They insisted Hitler was bad and he was not. You don't think Hitler was bad? No. Not at all. There was no holocaust." This remark represents a stark reversal of widely accepted historical consensus, asserting that there was no Holocaust. The speaker describes a surprising personal justification for this belief, saying, "I've I've seen evidence. I my aunt Georgie was in a prison camp and she told me about it and there was no torture, there was no killing." The claim places emphasis on the anecdote of the speaker’s aunt, Georgie, who allegedly was "in a prison camp" and told the speaker about it, specifically asserting that "there was no torture" and "there was no murder." The speaker then elaborates that the aunt was "a Jew in in Germany," which adds a personal and ethnic dimension to the claim, suggesting that a Jewish person in Germany would have firsthand experience of the camp. In continuing, the speaker reiterates the assertion: "There was no torture. There was no murder." The description of the alleged camp life offered by the aunt includes contrasting details such as "films," "an orchestra," "movies," and "a soccer team," painting a picture of a benign environment within the context of a Nazi-prison setting. A further provocative assertion is included: "A Jew started the SS." This statement is presented as part of the aunt’s account or the speaker’s interpretation of the camp’s history, introducing a controversial claim about the origins of the Schutzstaffel. Overall, the speaker challenges the widely accepted historical record by claiming that Hitler was not bad, that there was no Holocaust, and that the aunt’s testimony describes a benign camp life with cultural and recreational elements, culminating in the assertion that a Jew started the SS. The dialogue thus presents a sequence of controversial statements grounded in the speaker’s belief based on an account from their aunt Georgie.

During the trial of Ernst Zundel, the defense lawyer challenged Holocaust expert Dr. Raul Hilberg's testimony, questioning his belief that Adolf Hitler personally ordered the extermination of Jews. Hilberg stated Hitler's order was verbal, with the exact wording unknown, calling it a gap in history. The defense lawyer questioned Hilberg's reliance on a former SS officer's claims, some of which were omitted from Hilberg's book due to their incredibility, such as Hitler witnessing gassings and the claim that 25,000,000 Jews were killed. Hilberg admitted there is no single report proving the existence of gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps, nor correspondence to prove it.

Speaker plans to film Auschwitz with the BBC, saying "this isn't just somebody with an eight millimeter camera" and "they're gonna be marketing their film to television corporations." He will stand in the "gas chamber at Auschwitz 1" and point out "oh, no holes in the roof," explaining why he's "banned from the Auschwitz site" for asking about "the heaps of coke which don't exist." He cites Tom Bauer: "450,000 Hungarian Jews were shipped off to Auschwitz. Within the space of three weeks, they've been cremated and gassed." He asks where the bodies went: "a mountain of meat"—"45,000 cubic meters"—"no sign" on aerial photographs, though "the actual operating instructions" exist. He argues "nobody was gassed" because "that building was built by the Poles as they now admit in 1948," notes "the gas chamber door's got a handle on the inside," and recalls "millions of schoolchildren" were shown the site.

An investigator examined facilities expecting to find gas execution chambers, but determined they were incapable of using hydrogen cyanide gas for executions. A supervisor confirmed that ceiling holes were rebuilt after the war. Some people deny the Holocaust and perpetuate intolerance, racism, antisemitism, homophobia, xenophobia, and sexism. Holocaust denial is comparable to believing the federal government was involved in 9/11. Denying the Holocaust is baseless, ignorant, and hateful. The speaker believes that Jews were slaughtered in gas chambers, and these are facts, not opinions to be debated.

The speaker questions the location of the mass murder of millions of Jews during the Holocaust and highlights the decreasing credibility of the claim that six million Jews were gassed in Auschwitz. They mention the reduction of the victim count in Auschwitz, the publication of new findings suggesting that no one was gassed in Auschwitz, and the release of documents by the Institute of Contemporary History confirming Auschwitz as a labor camp. The speaker criticizes the lack of public acknowledgment and the imprisonment of those who doubted Auschwitz as an extermination camp. They argue that the Holocaust is the biggest lie in history, serving the interests of those seeking global domination. The speaker calls for a public explanation of what truly happened in German concentration camps.

I went to Poland to inspect the gas chambers, expecting to find evidence of gas executions. To my surprise, I found nothing at Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek. I had believed in their existence for over 40 years, but now I can't accept what isn't there. Despite numerous eyewitness accounts, I was disheartened to discover that the facilities I expected to see do not exist. There are no films or documentation supporting the claims of gas execution chambers. It's hard to reconcile this with what I've been taught.

Now let me make quite plain so there's no misunderstandings. I'm not challenging the holocaust. I'm not challenging any of the central core stories of the of the holocaust. There was a huge tragedy of some kind or other. I do challenge however the version which had been so glibly presented that Adolf Hitler himself ordered it.

The speaker questions the claim that six million Jews perished in German concentration camps during World War II. They cite gas chamber doors that allegedly didn't lock, some made of wood with glass windows, arguing they weren't airtight and would have harmed the guards. They mention Fred Lukter's analysis of Auschwitz gas chamber walls, which supposedly found no cyanide residue. The speaker highlights the existence of soccer teams, a theater, sewing rooms, and swimming pools in the camps, questioning why these would exist if extermination was the goal. A 1944 International Red Cross report allegedly found no evidence of extermination installations at Auschwitz. The speaker claims Jewish population records before and after the war show no significant change. They state that autopsies on 270,000 bodies found the cause of death was typhus and starvation, not poison gas. They allege some cremation smokestacks had no soot and one chimney wasn't connected to the building. The speaker concludes that evidence was manipulated for propaganda and that questioning the Holocaust is taboo because the narrative falls apart under scrutiny.

Speaker 0 urges historical perspective, noting the wartime Soviet alliance and that their anti-Nazi propaganda was accepted by the Allies; as victors, the Soviets "got to commit their propaganda to the history books as fact." He says current knowledge of Stalin's despotism and the KGB's deception, and the camps Majdanek, Belzec, Kelno, Treblinka, and Sobibor, have required relying on Soviet sources. "I believe in the inarguable fact that 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the war by Adolf Hitler and Nazis." He asks Speaker 2 if he believes that figure. Speaker 2 replies, "But I don't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed. Now be careful. I I beg of you. This is against the law in Germany. If there was a German somebody that's in German state, you could have me thrown into prison before I leave Germany."

During an eight-day remembrance of the Holocaust, Speaker 0 frames the period in the 1930s and 1940s when the Nazi government murdered, among others, a large number of Jews. He references a claim that a head of state said, “our job here is to kill everybody, including their children because the bloodline itself must be extinguished.” He adds that he is opposed to Hitler, but he questions whether Hitler ever made such a statement, saying, “I don't think Hitler ever said anything like that. I'm serious. I mean, he killed a ton of people, including a ton of Jews. Of course. But I don't think was Hitler ever on the record saying we need to exterminate every single member of a specific bloodline?” In response, Speaker 0 mentions that Netanyahu just said that last week and that he said it many other times. The conversation concludes with Speaker 0 calling the situation “bonkers.”

Speaker 0 states that there is not the slightest evidence Adolf Hitler knew what was happening to the Jews, to the Holocaust, or to Auschwitz. He says he has offered £1,000 English money, 2,000 Canadian dollars, since 1977 and over the last nine years in television programs and worldwide media, to anyone who can find one wartime document showing that Hitler even knew about Auschwitz or about what was going on in the Eastern Front. He asserts that nobody can find such a document, and that historians hesitate, look at each other, and ask if someone else has the proof. He recounts that Jekyll says no, Hilgeruber says no, Jakobson says perhaps Bouchard has it, and Bouchard says he thought Jekyll had it, so they go around in circles. Because they cannot prove they have the evidence, they turn on he (Irving), accusing him of fascism and discrediting him, claiming nobody should believe him. He then says he has come up in the archives with a whole string of documents that meet his criteria—genuine documents written by people in positions to know, created not for any exterior or ulterior motive. He describes these as a narrow file of documents showing Hitler deliberately, explicitly linked to the Holocaust as we can say, or linked to the fate of the Jews, that great tragedy. He asserts that all these documents show Hitler intervening to stop anything nasty happening to the Jews. The core claims are: (1) there is no wartime document proving Hitler knew about Auschwitz or the Holocaust; (2) his ongoing public challenge and financial offer to discover such a document; (3) the existence of a verified set of documents written by insiders, allegedly showing Hitler intervening to prevent harm to the Jews, and explicitly linking Hitler to the Holocaust in his actions.

Bishop Williamson, are these your words? You claim that no Jews were killed in gas chambers and that the Holocaust is a lie. Yes, I believe the evidence strongly contradicts the claim that six million Jews were deliberately gassed. I think there were no gas chambers. Historical revisionists suggest that around 200,000 to 300,000 Jews died in concentration camps, but not from gassing. Fred Leuchter, an expert on gas chambers, concluded that the supposed gas chambers could not have functioned as claimed. He pointed out the lack of necessary safety features, like high chimneys, and the doors were not airtight. This is not antisemitism; it’s about historical truth based on evidence. Germany has paid significant reparations due to guilt over the Holocaust, but I don’t believe six million were gassed. I must caution you, discussing this could lead to legal issues in Germany.

The speaker argues that the claim of six million Jews is unfounded and inconsistent with historical numbers. He notes that the “6,000,000 Jews” claim would require crediting Jews for having nine lives, since “these Jewish gas Jews show up again and again and again all over the world,” not only in the speaker’s country. He states that the Jewish Encyclopedia lists, in 1932 and ’33, only two and a half million Jews in the entire area where Hitler could have been, including Russia, and he asks how Hitler could be accused of gassing six million Jews in a region with only about two and a half million Jews. He contends he would be grateful if the Jews would explain this discrepancy, and he asserts they have never done so. The speaker declares that the “6,000,000 Jews” claim is “the biggest of all the big lies that has ever been told.” Turning to Mein Kampf, he notes that the book describes Jews as “the great masters of the lie” and says that their “big lie technique” is their biggest technique, describing it as “a selfie technique by which the Jews tell an enormous lie,” and stating that Hitler does not embed or advocate this, but condemns it as vile. He asserts that this big lie technique is exactly what is happening in “our country today.”

The speaker claims that the Holocaust is the biggest and most enduring lie in history. They argue that there is no evidence to support the existence of gas chambers or the murder of six million Jews. They believe that the Holocaust is a lie perpetuated by the post-war political agenda and that the truth needs to be uncovered. They also question the credibility of the standard and commandant orders from the concentration camps, suggesting that they were focused on labor and not mass extermination. The speaker believes that it is important to challenge the mainstream narrative of the Holocaust and that people should be willing to pay the price for seeking the truth.

Speaker 0 explains that the Germans recorded everything at Auschwitz: for a natural death there were more than 20 signatures from doctors and officials, and for a non-natural death (suicide, execution, etc.) there were more than 30 signatures. He mentions the "Totten Grusher" death registers of Auschwitz. He asks, do you know where they are? In Moscow. Since 1945, those registers have not been published. He argues that if the real figures of the dead were added, it would be impossible to believe that 4,000,000 died in Auschwitz as inscribed on the monument, or 1,000,000 as some say, or 700,000 as others claim. He emphasizes that proof is needed for everything and expresses bewilderment that more than forty years after the event, people are “swallowing everything.”

"I was in DACA for seventeen months after the war as a US department attorney and can state that there was no gas chamber in Dachau, nor was there a gas chamber at any of the other concentration camps in Germany." "no document has been found that proves that a plan for Jewish extermination by the third Reich was ever contemplated. Expulsion, yes, but extermination, no." "The Holocaust narrative is used to strengthen Jewish identity simultaneously as undermining, demonizing, and delegitimizing white European identity." "The Holocaust narrative is primarily used to discourage policies such as nationalism and instead promote globalism and multiculturalism in the Western world." "Any criticism against the Jews or the Jewish State of Israel had practically been outlawed." "The mere fact that Holocaust denial laws in Europe exist should raise an eyebrow." "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression."

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about his Jewish identity and references a "virulent anti-Semite" acquaintance who is supposedly friends with Holocaust denier David Irving. Speaker 0 brings up the Holocaust, referencing "smokestacks of Birkenau" and questioning the validity of the Holocaust. Speaker 0 claims this acquaintance denies the Holocaust by pointing to shadows in aerial photos of Dachau. Speaker 0 says this person questions how 6 million people could disappear. Speaker 1 denies being a Holocaust denier, stating he had a Bar Mitzvah. Speaker 0 says the acquaintance seemingly admitted people died, but questioned the number. Speaker 0 says everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that the number of deaths is somewhere between 600 and 6 million.

The speaker claims that no one in Germany knows where the alleged 6 million Jews were killed. After five years of questioning various German institutions, including Jewish centers and judges, about the location of the Holocaust and receiving no answers, the speaker wrote to the Minister of Justice requesting an open discussion. Receiving no response, the speaker concluded the Holocaust did not exist and published this conclusion online. The speaker believes that those imprisoned for Holocaust denial in Germany should be exonerated, as they were speaking the truth. The speaker highlights the large number of trials related to Holocaust denial in Germany, alleging that judges avoid engaging with evidence due to fear of Jewish reprisal, instead relying on the claim that the Holocaust is "obvious." The speaker equates their inquiries with the principle of press freedom.

Speaker 0 asks what group they are with and then expresses belief in the Holocaust. They question why it is illegal to question the Holocaust in 18 countries. When asked if they think it should be illegal to question the Holocaust, they answer yes. The speaker mentions being in 3 seats and wanting power. They tell someone to leave and make a crude comment about subscribing to someone's beliefs.

In Germany, the speaker questions the lack of evidence for the Holocaust, leading to the conclusion that it didn't happen. They criticize the justice system for punishing those who deny it. They mention hosting open conferences to discuss the issue. They express disappointment in the lack of response from authorities. Another speaker highlights the tyranny in the country and the thousands of trials related to Holocaust denial. They emphasize the importance of freedom of speech and inquiry.

The transcript presents an extensive compilation of claims from a group of speakers arguing that the established Holocaust narrative is false or exaggerated and that many historical incidents have been misrepresented or fabricated by Allied propaganda, Soviet influence, and Jewish-led organizations. The speakers frame Holocaust revisionism as a legitimate scholarly effort rather than denial, asserting that revisionists do not dispute that Jews and others suffered and died in the war, but dispute the scale, methods, and specifics of extermination. Key asserted points and claims - Holocaust definition and revisionism - The Holocaust is described as a belief that 6,000,000 Jews were murdered primarily by gassing in “shower rooms,” a narrative the speakers say is amplified by Hollywood, media, and schools. A growing movement of scientists, historians, engineers, journalists, and free-speech activists is portrayed as revisionist, though often branded as “Holocaust deniers” to discourage discourse. Revisionists are said not to deny persecution, deprivation of civil rights, deportation, internment, forced labor, or deaths in camps and ghettos, including deaths from disease; they also say that many victims died in ways other than genocide and that many victims’ dignity is not denied. - Internment and civilian camps in the United States - After Pearl Harbor, over 100,000 people of Japanese descent on the Pacific Coast were interned by Executive Order 9066; the text claims this restricted freedoms, required identity cards, and denied compensation or war reparations. The narrative includes accounts of interned individuals describing camp life, guard presence, and harsh conditions. - General wartime devastation and context - The war is described as a conflict that would not have occurred if “international jury” had not declared war on Germany in 1933, with emphasis on typhus, subversion, and crowded camps as drivers of disease and death. The speakers stress that millions died across battlefields, ships, and cities, and that propaganda surrounding German crimes obscures Allied or Soviet misdeeds. - Claims about typhus, gas chambers, and cremation - Typhus epidemics are said to explain many deaths in camps; Cyclone B (hydrogen cyanide) is claimed to have been used for delousing and pest control rather than execution, with several speakers arguing that gas chambers as homicidal devices did not exist or were technically infeasible. They assert there is no scientific proof of gassing, no German documents proving extermination plans, and that cremation and delousing procedures served health purposes rather than execution purposes. - Expert testimonies and forensics are cited (e.g., Leuchter, Rudolf, Lift, Lindsay) to support the claim that the gas chambers could not have functioned as execution facilities, noting technical impossibilities such as lack of explosion-proof features, gasketed doors, or proper gas delivery systems. - Specific camp narratives and testimonies - The camps are described as having been centers of labor, medical care, and even cultural activity, with accounts of weddings, births, nurseries, orchestras, libraries, theater performances, and recreational activities. Some testimonies describe attempts to maintain humanity and morale under harsh conditions, including a piano in Block 1, children’s art, and soccer games. - Several testimonies challenge the image of mass exterminations, claiming instead that most deaths resulted from disease, starvation, and Allied bombing, and that Red Cross and Vatican inquiries found no evidence of homicidal gas chambers. - A number of survivor testimonials are presented as quotations or paraphrases challenging the notion of mass murder in gas chambers, with some individuals denying personal knowledge of gas chambers or mass killings. - Documentary, legal, and scholarly disputes - The Institute for Historical Review (IHR) and other revisionist scholars are described as measuring and challenging the established narrative, sometimes facing legal or financial pressure. The transcript cites various researchers and forensics teams (e.g., Leuchter, Krakov, Farison, Groff, Farison, Larsson) as having concluded that homicidal gassings were not technically feasible in the cited facilities. - It is claimed that many postwar figures and witnesses provided testimonies or stories later recognized as unreliable or fabricated, including famous Holocaust survivors whose accounts are presented as inconsistent or false. Names and cases (e.g., Herman Rosenblatt, Anne Frank, Elie Wiesel) are invoked to illustrate alleged fraud or manipulation, though these claims contradict well-established historical records. - Propaganda, media, and the so-called “Holocaust industry” - The text asserts that the Holocaust narrative is used as a tool to enforce globalist policy, promote multiculturalism, and suppress nationalist sentiments among white Europeans. It claims that ongoing denazification efforts, legal penalties for questioning the Holocaust, and control over media and online platforms are designed to suppress dissent and promote a one-sided portrayal. - There is a claim that “atrocity propaganda” and black propaganda have been used to shape public perception, with references to Sefton Delmer and Allied psychological warfare, and accusations that postwar trials and media representations were heavily biased or manipulated. - Population counts, mortality figures, and documentary evidence - Several sections contest the veracity of the commonly cited death tolls, the reliability of Red Cross and other international communications, and the authenticity of diaries and eyewitness testimonies. The transcript asserts that the Nuremberg trials did not use physical or technical evidence to establish gas chamber existence and that some documents used as proof were mistranslated or contextualized wrongly. - The piece repeatedly emphasizes that millions of Jews did not die in the camps, that the “6,000,000” figure is a symbolic or religious number, and that high-profile Holocaust narratives are part of a constructed orthodoxy. - Final framing - The speakers position Holocaust revisionism as a defense of free speech and historical inquiry, arguing that questioning the official narrative is essential to truth. They claim laws against denial suppress inquiry and that truth should stand on its own merits without legal protection. They also suggest that conflicting accounts, forged documents, and political agendas have shaped the popular memory of World War II. Note on structure and tone - The transcript interweaves personal testimonials, expert opinions, documentary references, and polemical assertions. It repeatedly contrasts “revisionists” with conventional accounts, often asserting that mainstream portrayals are driven by propaganda, financial interests, or political goals. The overall thrust is to challenge the conventional understanding of the Holocaust, question the evidentiary basis for extermination claims, and highlight alleged inconsistencies in survivor narratives and official records.

Did six million j really perished in World War two German concentration camps? Or is that number just a little bit exaggerated? The latches can be opened from the inside or the outside, as I am showing right here. You cannot lock somebody into this room. They couldn't lock them in, and some gas chamber doors were made with wooden doors. Wooden doors to gas chambers? Come on. It's not airtight. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is a fake, pure and simple. Why would they have soccer and swimming pools to people they're about to exterminate? Not a single person died of poison gas.

The speaker questions the conventional narrative of the Holocaust, suggesting that key aspects may be misrepresented. They claim that the gas chambers at Auschwitz lacked gas traces and had doors that opened from the inside. They allege Zyklon B was primarily used to combat typhus, a disease spread by lice, and that the victims' lack of hair in photos supports this. The speaker cites an expert who designed gas chambers in the US, claiming it would have been impossible to gas millions of Jews with the resources available. They also question the feasibility of cremating so many bodies in the given timeframe with the available technology. The speaker references a case in Canada where Holocaust survivors allegedly admitted to sensationalizing their stories. They claim Anne Frank's memoirs were partially written with ballpoint pens and that the number of deaths on Holocaust memorials has been reduced. They state that death camps were actually labor camps and that not all victims were Jewish. The speaker claims Hitler was partly responsible for the creation of Israel through the Havar agreement, which allowed 60,000 Jews to emigrate there in the 1930s. They allege that Jews served in the Nazi military and that there's no documentation proving the extermination of Jews. They conclude that questioning the Holocaust is forbidden because it is the foundation of a narrative that gives power to certain groups.

"There is considerable evidence to that effect that it was a a World War two propaganda device." "Once Germany lost the war, the lie or the propaganda lie or the atrocity propaganda persisted, and nobody was there to challenge it with facts." "I happened to have the onerous duty of going into Buchenwald right after the surrender of Germany. I saw the camp. I saw some of the survivors. I saw the ovens." "Under what is under dispute is whether there was a policy of planned genocide by by a government body." "I am not permitted to talk to you about the Holocaust per se under judge's orders." "Justice Jackson had, for instance, one reference to torture by one of the most famous of the Nuremberg accused expunged from the record."

Nazis were enemies of communism, which killed hundreds of millions. The claim that Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews is untrue and a fabrication. According to the speaker, spending time researching revisionist sources online will show that evidence contradicts the emotional backing for the claim that 6,000,000 Jews were wickedly killed in gas chambers by the Nazis. The speaker asserts that all the emotion is on one side, while all the evidence is on the other.