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Speaker 1 acknowledges knowing Ali was bisexual/gay and prioritizes winning/success over that fact. He states he could apologize but it wouldn't be the truth. He cites Marjorie Taylor Greene at AFPAC, involvement in Stop the Steal, and friendship with Kanye West as positive outcomes. He admits to a "sociopathic commitment to accomplishing my goals." Speaker 2 questions Speaker 1 about his continued association with Ali, referencing claims that they communicate daily. Speaker 1 confirms they communicated daily while working for Ye in December and states that "Ye '24 is still going on," implying continued communication. Speaker 2 expresses concern about associating with "creeps." Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 2 of being "weasily."

- Speaker 0 expresses a core problem: how to support the Donald Trump presidency when the figures associated with his circle (Alex Jones, Owen Shroyer, Ian Carroll) embody traits they oppose, prompting questions about alignment with their side. He asks how to reconcile supporting Trump with these associations, calling it an objective problem. - Speaker 1 responds that he has not researched certain controversial items (Eric Prince’s phone) and notes that Eric Prince is a polarizing figure from the military-industrial complex world. He argues that involvement in war fighting does not automatically make someone evil and that a full picture requires digging beyond initial impressions, acknowledging he hasn’t done all the research. - Speaker 0 challenges this, citing his own video: Eric Prince has three CEOs for Blackwater, all with intricate ties to the IDF. He questions coincidence between Palantir Technologies and the surveillance state, Israel’s influence, and three IDF-affiliated Blackwater CEOs, referencing USS Liberty and suggesting Eric Prince’s past atrocities and a lack of accountability. He asks whether such a figure could ever be considered a good person and whether repentance is possible, noting he hasn’t seen Prince acknowledge past wrongs. - Speaker 0 adds BlackRock as another easy target, claiming BlackRock, with help from the Trump administration, bought two ports in the Panama Canal for $22.8 billion, and contends Trump mentioned a company would buy the Panama Canal during the State of the Union, but did not name BlackRock. He challenges the listener to consider whether Trump is on their side given this nugget of information. - Speaker 1 says he was not endorsing a specific device or action, calling the “phones” comment offhand and irrelevant. He reiterates he isn’t waiting for Trump or Elon Musk to act in the interest of people, and states he’s intentionally not waiting for them to do so. He emphasizes starting change bottom-up, and encourages starting conversations rather than trolling, suggesting Seven Seas could help. - Speaker 0 shifts to a broader miscommunication problem: there’s a gap where people misread each other, treating allies as enemies. He advocates filling this gap through dialogue with diverse figures like Seven Seas, Ian Carroll, Joe Rogan, Whitney Webb, Derek Brose. He mentions a planned March sit-down interview between Derek Brose and Ian Carroll, hoping for a productive exchange, while noting past heated exchanges where ad hominem attacks diminished constructive dialogue. He cites Clint Russell and redheaded libertarian as examples of contentious interactions. - They discuss disagreements over Trump’s ideology and policies, including concerns that Trump still praises the VA, pharma, and large-scale spending, which confounds libertarian critiques. He cites a national debt comparison between Obama and Trump era spending, arguing that debt devalues the dollar and harms Americans, regardless of party. - Speaker 0 reiterates suspicion that the criticism of Trump and Elon Musk coexists with perceived support for them, labeling it an inconsistency. He promises to withhold calling someone a shill until there is clear intent to deceive. Speaker 1 suggests focusing on good-faith arguments, mentioning Glenn Greenwald with respect, and invites Seven Seas to share their take on Ian Carroll’s reaction to Seven Seas’ post.

Speaker 0 outlines concerns about governance and patient safety, stating that “the governor” is ultimately over the issues, with nurses and the medical board implicated. He recalls that the medical board “came in and Please please do from letting insurance are being abused,” noting that complaints would take up to eight months to be contacted back or would “vanish into a black hole.” He emphasizes that staffing was blamed despite unspent staffing funds and asserts the governor is ultimately responsible. He mentions that his staff queried the possibility of being an Israeli spy and calls for immediate hearings, adding that discussions have been ongoing and something will be done. He references news that Josh Shapiro, a Kamala Harris vice-presidential contender, was queried by her staff about being an Israeli spy, and contrasts this with the lack of questioning about Walsh being a Chinese spy or having a predilection to fraud. He references antisemitic lines of credit and notes receiving massive inquiries, saying they will host a seminar on how to fight back, including defamation lawsuits as a recourse for public figures, though acknowledging the difficulty of such actions. Speaker 2 states she does not know the person but notes a predilection for people close to the others, insisting the person is “not part of the club.” Speaker 0 recalls a podcast with a Christian podcaster and expresses that to do this line of work, one must believe God drives it because they do not make money. He remarks on being disliked for not chasing popularity and invites others to examine their Twitter feeds. He describes the harassment they face, including lawfare, stalking, threats, and the desire to “kill me,” recounting examples like Carrie Donovan. Speaker 2 agrees on the intensity of threats and emphasizes the importance of truth and accountability in their reporting, not wanting to be deterred by intimidation. Speaker 0 adds that belief in a higher purpose is necessary to endure the profession, noting that after October 7 his faith was shaken but returning to the idea that God orders their steps. Speaker 2 adds that the local community deserves to know when someone is not who they claim to be or has a criminal record, and that elected officials deserve scrutiny. Speaker 1 introduces Adam with Accuracy in Media, saying he is dealing with three defamation suits from wealthy individuals’ families and has faced 13 swatts and daily death threats, sometimes requiring off-duty police at college campuses. He highlights the value of anti-SLAPP laws and tort reform, noting North Carolina lacks an anti-SLAPP law, which would help dismiss frivolous defamation suits protecting free speech, and criticizes legislators for lobbying for lawyers. Speaker 0 announces a good development: a story they broke on Thursday prompted Brendan Jones, head of the real bulldog in North Carolina’s oversight committee, to request appearances before his committee in Winston-Salem. They plan to discuss the Winston-Salem event, North Carolina A&T, and the Western North Carolina story, which Margo finds triggering. Speaker 3 from the city notes DEI support and discusses terminology changes since the FBI’s ban, and Speaker 1 comments on leadership differences between states, suggesting better governance in other legislatures and hoping for improved leadership locally. The exchange ends with remarks about leadership and governance comparisons.

Speaker 0 claims his life is awesome, while Speaker 1 is going to work. Speaker 0 mocks Speaker 1 for going to community college and working with his hands. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of shitting on blue-collar workers while trying to appeal to them. Speaker 0 clarifies he is trying to appeal to rich people and identifies as an elitist, "kind of" like Richard Spencer. Speaker 1 says Speaker 0 has never worked with his hands and lives a terrible life. Speaker 0 says he likes being poor and that it's manly. Speaker 1 says he's not poor, it's just cheaper to live the way he does. Speaker 1 asserts that every functional member of society works, except Speaker 0. Speaker 1 says he'd rather be a functional member of society than be unique. Speaker 0 says Speaker 1 wants to be a cog.

Speaker 0 expresses that God loves everyone, while Speaker 1 shares their lack of regret over having an abortion. Speaker 2 interjects briefly. Speaker 1 mentions being a professor and having more money. Speaker 0 asks for Speaker 1's name, but they refuse to share it. Speaker 0 introduces themselves as Ricky Castro and offers to pray for Speaker 1. Speaker 1 thanks them. Speaker 0 requests Speaker 1's name again, but they decline. Speaker 1 is accused of ruining everyone's lunch. Speaker 0 asks for their microphone back repeatedly. Speaker 1 eventually returns it. Speaker 0 wishes them a good day and asserts their strength. Speaker 0 calls an officer, claiming Speaker 1 is assaulting themselves. Speaker 1 denies it. The officer intervenes and arrests Speaker 1. Speaker 0 mentions praying for them.

Speaker 0 explains that the couple’s ruse may seem odd to some people and does not fit into any “white handbook” about keeping the kingdom orderly. There is no section on how to rescue children from sex traffickers. Speaker 1 interrupts to say they want to explain something. Speaker 0 continues that, using his team, they have had to figure things out on their own. He acknowledges that people may dismiss it, but he emphasizes gratitude for the opportunity to publicly state a principle: he will never confess to something he did not do, no matter who asks, unless God himself and an angel or some divine directive instructs him to lie to protect Elder Ballard’s name from defamation. He asserts clearly that he will not lie or confess to a false wrongdoing unless there is a divine instruction to do so. He reiterates that there is not one person on the planet for whom he would deviate from this principle, unless a direct message from God or a celestial being instructs him otherwise. Speaker 1 closes with a brief interjection: “But by the way, folks.”

Speaker 0 asks why the other person is spirit painting, stating that asking questions is their job. The other person questions if they support Palestine, to which Speaker 0 responds that they support free speech in the United States. Speaker 0 mentions living in Jordan for 6 months and believes America is our last hope. The conversation becomes heated, with Speaker 1 telling Speaker 0 to leave and mentioning Zion.

Speaker 0 claims that someone was put in solitary confinement for more than a hundred days for speaking about what was happening inside his country. He says he knows why this is happening: purely for votes and to keep people in power. Speaker 0 adds that after visiting Europe and making videos about what was happening, he anticipated similar moves in the United States. He recounts a sit-down interview with Tommy Robinson, who explains that the Labour Party in the UK, and the Democrat Party in the US, stay in power because they “tell these Muslims they can go ahead, do whatever they want.” He says a Muslim “should be more conservative than they would be a liberal” because they don’t stand for much of that progressive stuff, and that “they have Sharia law” above everything. According to him, if someone goes to a mosque with a thousand people, the mosque leader is told, “we’re gonna let you guys do whatever you want, just make sure you vote for us.” He asserts that, as a result, the leader of the mosque will lead everyone in the mosque to voting centers to vote for that candidate. He claims this is why in London the mayor is Muslim and many surrounding towns are Muslim, and that they actually have courts practicing Sharia law. He says he anticipated this would happen in America as well, and mentions Mundami as an example. Speaker 0 then notes Mundami advocated for making childcare more affordable when running for office. He questions what is known about childcare now, describing daycare centers as “complete frauds.” He says he anticipated the current development and that people are now starting to see it in America. Speaker 0 explains that after he was pressed to give his opinion, people began loving it, even though he had not intended to speak out. He says he was originally just going to ask people questions, but they turned his journalism into activism, which he says forced his hand. He says he feels compelled to continue. Speaker 1 cautions, advising not to let them force him into something he thinks they don’t want him to do, referencing what he is currently doing. He concludes that they would rather have an activist than a competitor.

Speaker 0 asks how people can trust Speaker 1 and if he is part of the cabal. Speaker 1 responds by saying not to trust him, but to trust themselves. He dismisses the idea of controlled opposition and encourages people to do their own research and make their own decisions. He criticizes those who are indecisive and urges them to take action and make a difference. Speaker 1 talks about his sacrifices and the hardships he faces, emphasizing that he doesn't care about votes but wants to save the country. He calls out politicians and accuses them of being part of controlled opposition. He concludes by telling people to stop asking him questions and to take responsibility for their own actions.

Speaker 0 opens by saying he tries to be as transparent as possible and offers to share what the text in court filings was about. Speaker 1 asks to know, and Speaker 0 begins to explain. Speaker 0 reflects on his past views: he has no incentive to lie, he runs a business with his college roommate, and he supported the Iraq War vehemently, supported the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett (calling it a huge mistake and that it wasn’t what he thought), and he supports John Roberts. He says the list of “dumb things” he supported is long, and he has spent the last twenty-two years trying to atone for his support for the Iraq War. Speaker 1 acknowledges appreciation for that, and Speaker 0 continues. He says he isn’t seeking affirmation but explains the text in question concerns a discussion with a producer about election integrity. He describes a January post-election conversation with someone at the White House after Trump claimed the election was stolen. He says he was willing to believe allegations and asked for examples. The White House regional contact offered seven or eight dead people who voted, asserting they could be proven because death certificates and obituaries showed they voted and were on voter rolls. He states he did not claim “slam dunk” proof and insists he does not trust campaigns or campaign consultants, but he believed the claim was verifiable. Speaker 0 recounts going on air with the claim that “seven or ten dead people voted” and listing the names to show the evidence. He says, within about twenty-five minutes, some of the deceased people contacted CNN to say they were not dead, and CNN exposed that he had made a colossal error. He emphasizes that there is nothing he hates more than being wrong and humiliated, and that he should have checked whether someone had died; he acknowledges not checking carefully. Speaker 1 asks why he didn’t say these things on Fox News earlier. Speaker 0 says he did the next day. Speaker 1 contends he did not, and asks for the tape. Speaker 0 asserts he went on air the next day and admits he was completely wrong, blaming the Trump campaign for taking their word and also blaming the staffer who provided the information; he says he is still mad at that person. Speaker 1 challenges ownership of the situation and asks about the influence and the value of his career, implying he holds substantial influence with a top-rated show. They clash over sincerity and the magnitude of his earnings. Speaker 0 denies alignment with the accusation of insincerity, but Speaker 1 remains skeptical and asserts a belief that his sincerity is in question and that his views may be financially motivated. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 telling Speaker 1 to stop and declaring they’re done, as Speaker 1 pushes back about the immense wealth and status, prompting Speaker 0 to end the exchange abruptly.

Speaker 0 asks if the belief that the person is secretly saving the world from a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals is something they support. Speaker 1 responds that they haven't heard that before, but if it means helping to save the world, they are willing to do it. They believe they are saving the world from a radical left philosophy that would destroy the country, and emphasize the importance of the country as a leader for the rest of the world.

Speaker 0 claims to have recordings and documents exposing malfeasance within a nonprofit, alleging board members took money from donors and used children to further an agenda. Speaker 1 denies knowledge and deflects, objecting to questions about investments in companies, some potentially in the medical field and possibly sold to big pharma like Pfizer. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of conflicts of interest. Tensions escalate with personal attacks, Speaker 0 calling Speaker 1 a cheat and liar, while Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of being a cheat and liar. Speaker 0 vows to get justice, not revenge. The discussion revolves around investments, potential conflicts of interest, and a broken story within the organization.

Speaker 0 asks if the theory about saving the world from a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals is something Speaker 1 supports. Speaker 1 responds that they haven't heard of it, but questions whether it is a bad or good thing. They express their willingness to help save the world from problems and put themselves out there. Speaker 1 believes they are currently saving the world from a radical left philosophy that could destroy the country, and if the country falls, the rest of the world will follow suit.

Speaker 0 claims the Department of Government Efficiency found hundreds of billions in fraud, but Speaker 1 denies any fraud was found. Speaker 0 alleges Social Security is paying people over 220 years old, which Speaker 1 disputes. Speaker 1 criticizes Trump's anti-immigrant stance and calls Musk a "thug." Speaker 0 defends Trump, suggesting he might be the greatest president in modern American history. Speaker 1 calls Speaker 0 "deluded" for supporting Trump, characterizing Trump as rude, nasty, and racist. Speaker 0 accuses others of being in a cult, claiming they try to stop people from talking to those with different ideas. Speaker 0 says things got "hot" and troopers asked him to leave. Speaker 0 then shares the speech he planned to give, emphasizing that all are Americans with First Amendment rights and should unite to eliminate corruption.

Speaker 0 questions if the theory of secretly saving the world from a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals is something Speaker 1 supports. Speaker 1 responds by saying they haven't heard of it, but they are open to the idea of helping to save the world and are willing to put themselves out there.

Speaker 0 says he went and hassled asked straightforward questions to Ted Cruz, describing Cruz as a sitting senator who was “serving for Israel by his own description,” and notes he isn’t targeting Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG) because she’s “the most sincere.” He questions why not go after Cruz. Speaker 1 recalls being a friend of MTG; she spoke at his conference, then “the day after, she pretended like she didn't know me,” describing a history that began in 2022. He explains views evolve as people interact with reality and as the reality of self changes, adding that now “everyone agrees with me,” and he would forgive hostility. He says he doesn’t know what MTG’s new views are, noting she’s come around on Israel “this year,” whereas he has spoken on the issue for ten years. He characterizes the past as “ BS” and claims he was treated as if he didn’t exist, canceled for ten years for discussing these topics, particularly during a time of intense censorship. Speaker 1 mentions MTG fired one of his staffers because someone found out a groiper was working in her office, and that person’s life was ruined; MTG allegedly knew exactly what the conference was, yet she pretended not to. He says the issue isn’t personal with MTG, but argues the past disagreement was because she was “on the other team.” Speaker 0 counters that many people were on different sides in the past and suggests the question is bigger than themselves, aiming to restore America for future generations. Speaker 0 adds a personal note: if Dave Rubin called to apologize for calling him “Hitler,” he would consider it meaningful, and he sees legitimate questions to consider. He emphasizes sincerity as central, stating he believes sincerity shows when someone’s heart is pure, and that Joe Kent appeared sincere despite not agreeing on everything, which led Speaker 0 to think Kent was a good person. However, Speaker 0 says Kent was later discredited as being a CIA officer (or contractor), which contradicted their impression, and he recalls showing each other a badge during a mutual suspicion moment. Speaker 1 recalls being disavowed by MTG for his views on Israel and criticized for talking about white people and Christianity, and notes that he worked with Blumenthal on an article while Speaker 0 had called him on the phone. Speaker 0 reflects that the exchange felt “inside baseball” and insists he was seeking a sincere politician, someone brave, regardless of full agreement. He cites Joe Kent as an example of sincerity despite disagreements, and recounts being surprised by Speaker 1’s later revelation that Kent’s CIA association changed his view of Kent.

Speaker 0 admits being paid to say things in front of cameras, regrets supporting abortion, and reveals it was all an act. Speaker 1 acknowledges unethical behavior towards Speaker 0 and questions if Speaker 0 was playing them. The truth is revealed.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of "white guilt" and weakness, claiming he is creating more "Austin Metcalfs" by not condemning his son's killer and the culture that caused it. Speaker 1 counters that Speaker 0 has been "submitted" and is weak. Speaker 1 questions Speaker 0's patriotism, asking where he was on January 6th. He accuses Speaker 0 of "murdering white people" and being a degenerate. Speaker 1 claims Speaker 0 is using Austin Metcalf's name for t-shirts and propaganda. Speaker 1 states he will run for Senate in Florida as a Republican and defeat Speaker 0. He accuses Speaker 0 of trying to shut down a white man and trying to raise money. Speaker 1 says he came to give Speaker 0 a message from a father.

Speaker 0 asks how people can trust Speaker 1 and if he is part of the cabal. Speaker 1 responds by saying not to trust him, but to trust themselves. He dismisses the idea of controlled opposition and urges people to do their own research and make their own decisions. He criticizes those who claim they don't know what to do and tells them to grow up. Speaker 1 talks about his dedication to fighting for causes and calls out politicians for not addressing important issues. He expresses frustration with people who worry about controlled opposition and accuses them of being lazy and selfish. He ends by telling people to stop asking him questions and to take action themselves.

Speaker 0 asks how people can trust Speaker 1 and if he is part of the cabal or a freemason. Speaker 1 responds by saying not to trust him, but to trust themselves. He dismisses the idea of controlled opposition and urges people to do their own research and make their own decisions. He criticizes those who are indecisive and tells them to grow up. Speaker 1 talks about his own sacrifices and challenges, claiming to eat rice and onions daily while fighting for important causes. He expresses frustration with politicians and accuses them of being part of the problem. He concludes by telling people to stop asking him questions and to take action themselves.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about past tweets and NPR content. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes America is addicted to white supremacy, if America believes in black plunder and white democracy, and if white people inherently feel superior. Speaker 1 says their thinking has evolved and denies holding those beliefs now, also stating they don't recall some tweets. Speaker 0 confronts Speaker 1 with their past tweets about reparations, asking if white people should pay them. Speaker 1 claims the tweet wasn't about fiscal reparations. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes looting is morally wrong, and Speaker 1 confirms that it is. Speaker 0 then questions Speaker 1 about NPR content, including a book called In Defense of Looting, an article about gender queer dinosaur enthusiasts, and an editorial stating that fear of fatness is more harmful than actual fat. Speaker 1 says they are unfamiliar with some of the content. Speaker 0 accuses NPR of editorializing and promoting garbage, vowing to defund them.

The speaker makes a series of provocative asserts about Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and Peter Thiel, claiming they look “hybrid” or like an “Apple software” that could be downloaded at night, with a sense in the eyes that suggests they are not fully human. They describe themselves as human but uncertain about basic biology, joking that a battery might fall out if they bled, and assert they have long sensed these figures are demonic. The argument expands to a broader critique of technology’s role in society, arguing that people are indoctrinated to accept transformative claims about science and technology as improvements, while in reality, “our kids have objectively gotten dumber,” and society has become fatter, less healthy, and less emotionally sound. Yet the narrative claims that this is presented as humanity’s great leap forward. The speaker contends that the entertainment and tech establishment, including Hollywood, promotes worship of these figures as geniuses, with the suggestion that “the writers who are obviously indoctrinated into the occult” are pushing the idea that figures like Musk are exceptional. They claim that occult influence is pervasive, asserting that “they were all Alastair Crowley proteges who were just raping kids and summoning demons,” and that demons are real. Concurrently, the speaker asserts that faith is being undermined: while demons are summoned, faith is portrayed as not real, which the speaker regards as “the greatest trick that the devil ever played” by making people believe there is nothing after life. A central theme is the monetization and spiritual substitution of allegiance to money. The speaker argues that by accepting lies or “going down a path of lying” to preserve a paycheck or job, a person is effectively “selling their soul,” noting that there is a life after this and that allegiance to dollar-driven systems is a deliberate pledge. The reference to the Charlie Kirk case is used to illustrate the claim that selling out is driven by fear of losing security. Religiosity is openly referenced as the speaker explains their belief that “if this is not it” and that “these people are demons,” with a personal stance on faith as a defense against what they view as a demonic, money-centered order. The speaker concludes by emphasizing their recognition of these individuals’ supposed non-human nature and by noting, “look at Sam … I don’t know no. But I know that’s not I guess I droid, obviously.”

Speaker 0 challenges Speaker 1 to publicly address an issue larger than Austin, accusing him of "white guilt" and weakness that is creating more "Austin Metcalfs." Speaker 0 urges Speaker 1 to condemn his son's killer and the culture that caused it. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of being degenerate, murdering white people, and not being patriotic. Speaker 1 claims that silence has not helped and asks where Speaker 0 was on January 6th. Speaker 1 states that Speaker 0 is only condemning his solution to help people where they're weak, particularly young black males. Speaker 1 says he will run for Senate in Florida as a Republican and defeat Speaker 0. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of wanting to shut down a white man. Speaker 1 states he came to give a message from his father. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of trying to shut him down because he is a black man.

In a heated online space, the participants debate organizational affiliations, personal insults, and questions about narratives surrounding international events. The core points are: - Contract with NAG: Speaker 1 confirms that “we severed” or “didn’t make the cut” with the group referred to as NAG, indicating a break in alignment. When pressed for specifics, they note the date and details are unclear, mentioning it “has been a month.” Payments or compensation are touched on briefly, with Speaker 2 asking if someone is being paid by others, and Speaker 1 replying with a noncommittal remark about a banner or check mark. - Identity and credibility disputes: The dialogue includes strong personal accusations and defenses over Christian identity, history, and authenticity. A moment centers on an Orthodox Christian icon being attacked, with Speaker 0 emphasizing they are Christian and criticizing another participant’s approach to Christianity. This thread quickly devolves into name-calling and claims about knowledge of Christian history, with insults and counter-insults about piety and background. - Media portrayal and allegations of manipulation: Speaker 2 accuses the group of being “counter, to be basically the controlled opposition” and questions potential contractual pressure. They refer to smear videos and claim others are posting content to discredit them. The discussion includes claims of being targeted by large accounts and accusations of gaslighting and manipulation. - El Salvador and Bukele narrative: A key point raised by Speaker 2 involves skepticism about the State Department narrative on El Salvador and Bukele. They state the world doesn’t revolve around Ryan Mata and say their own research raises questions about why certain narratives persist, insisting they did not attack Ryan Mata and did not tag him, but simply asked questions about the situation. - Social media dynamics and conflicts: The exchange includes a back-and-forth about who blocked whom, who controls whom, and who is “bullied” or being treated unfairly. The participants describe smear videos, blocking behavior, and the impact of public accounts with large followings. There are accusations that others “babysit” spaces or inject themselves into conversations with an agenda. - Specific confrontations and accusations: Speaker 2 recounts being accused of bullying and being attacked for asking questions about El Salvador; Speaker 1 responds by accusing Speaker 2 of seeking attention and of being a chaos agent. The dialogue includes repeated clashes over who said what, with emphasis on truth-seeking versus smearing. - Tone and escalation: The conversation alternates between attempting to ask clarifying questions and eruptions of hostility, with terms like “heritic,” “liberal,” “block,” and “gaslighting” used repeatedly. The participants express frustration at being misunderstood, misrepresented, or blocked from collaborative discussion, culminating in mutual admonitions and exasperation.

Speaker 0 emphasizes transparency and discusses a resentful exchange, then trails into a confession about past political positions. He says he tries to be as transparent as possible and offers to share what the text in court filings was. He explains that the text involved a producer and him, in January after the election, when Trump claimed the election was stolen. He says he told the White House he would believe that claim if there were verifiable evidence, and cites a specific example the White House gave: seven or eight dead people who voted, with death certificates and obituaries to prove it. He recounts that he publicly stated there was talk about election theft and that dead voters were on the rolls, naming individuals like Wanda Johnson of Sioux City, Iowa, and Jack Klein of Corpus Christi, Texas, and promising to show their obituaries. He notes that within about twenty-five minutes, CNN confirmed the deceased were not dead, exposing that he had made a colossal error on air. He emphasizes he hates being wrong and humiliated and acknowledges he did not verify the information independently and should have checked. He states he was enraged by the incident and his stance was that if someone claimed the election was stolen, they should prove it; he is an adult and does not take anyone’s word for anything, especially from campaign consultants whom he distrusts, though he still thought the claim could be verifiable. Speaker 1 asks why he did not say these things on Fox News, and he asserts he did the next day on Fox News. The conversation becomes tense as Speaker 1 challenges the sincerity and ownership of the views and statements. Speaker 0 contends there is a conversation about honesty and ownership, and asks what is being claimed. The dialogue shifts to questions about his influence and wealth. Speaker 1 questions the magnitude of his influence, implying a large net worth, suggesting he is worth around $50,000,000, which Speaker 0 rebuts with a defensive outburst. Speaker 0 denies the monetary figure and accuses Speaker 1 of being overly fixated on it, telling him to get off the internet and stop believing such numbers. The exchange grows heated and ends abruptly with Speaker 0 telling Speaker 1 to leave, and Speaker 1 attempting to interject one more time before Speaker 0 cuts off the conversation. Overall, the transcript covers: a claim of transparency; a January discussion about alleged dead-voter evidence and its on-air fallout; an apology and admission of not verifying the information; subsequent on-air correction; tensions over sincerity and ownership of views; and a confrontational exchange about influence and wealth.