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The speaker questions the number of people deported out of the 2 million encounters and releases at the border. The secretary avoids answering the question and claims the immigration system is broken. The speaker presses for a specific number of non-criminal deportations, but the secretary doesn't provide an answer. The speaker also criticizes the lack of removals for those who received removal orders. The secretary denies this claim. The speaker accuses the secretary of implementing a policy that allows people to stay in the country without committing a crime, burdening social services. The secretary denies this and defends the safe and orderly pathways policy. The speaker argues that encounters at ports of entry have increased, suggesting corruption within the Mexican government. The secretary disagrees with the speaker's statements but fails to provide any numbers. The speaker concludes that the Mexican government and the secretary are influenced by cartels.

If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were on board with this for years. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

Entering the U.S. legally and ignoring a judge's deportation order are crimes. Choosing to have a U.S. citizen child while in the country illegally puts the family in a difficult position. The speaker claims they removed children with mothers who requested it, calling it a parental decision. The speaker argues that if they hadn't removed the children with their mothers, they would be accused of separating families. They assert that when a parent wants their child to go with them, they facilitate it, and that the parents, not the government, made the decision. The speaker then references Lincoln Riley and Rachel Moran, stating they will never see their children again, and concludes that the administration is doing the right thing.

In the past 3 years, there has been a significant increase in illegal border crossings and a backlog of asylum cases. The speaker questions why the secretary deserves to keep his job, considering these issues. The secretary responds by acknowledging the problems and emphasizing the need for legislation to address the broken immigration system.

The speaker criticizes the Secretary for allowing a criminal into the country illegally, giving him a work permit, and not prosecuting him for a crime against a child. The speaker accuses the Secretary of lying to Congress and the public. The Secretary responds by expressing confidence in justice prevailing in the criminal case. The speaker implies that the Secretary may not receive a fair trial.

Speaker 0 asks about the danger to US communities from 13,000 people convicted of murder who crossed the border illegally. Speaker 1 responds that the numbers being reported are a false representation of the data. Speaker 1 states that total returns and removals in the past year have been higher than every year under the previous administration since 2010. Speaker 1 insists that data should be reported accurately to avoid confusing or lying to the American people, and that the misrepresentation has been fact-checked and debunked by multiple outlets.

The speaker states they will bring back the border security bill that Donald Trump tanked and do more to secure the border. To reduce illegal border crossings, they will take further action to keep the border closed between ports of entry. Those who cross unlawfully will be apprehended, removed, and barred from reentering for 5 years, with repeat violators facing more severe criminal charges. The speaker claims that if someone does not make an asylum request at a legal point of entry and instead crosses unlawfully, they will be barred from receiving asylum. The speaker's goal is to have an orderly and secure system, while understanding that many people are desperate to migrate to the United States.

A family seeking asylum was arrested but later released with a court hearing date, which they attended. This is the first time in US history that asylum seekers must apply in another country. President Trump argues that the catch and release policy is flawed, as dangerous individuals could enter the country. He claims that less than 1% of released individuals return, and only those with low IQ might come back. Vice President Biden disagrees, stating that the president's claims are untrue and encourages fact-checking.

Kamala mentioned the speaker's name 21 times but did not mention the border or inflation. She blamed the speaker for the border situation, despite the speaker not having visited the border in four years. The speaker claims to have had the safest and best border ever. Kamala's statements were characterized as lies. She accused the speaker of involvement with "project 25," which the speaker claims to be unfamiliar with.

The speakers discuss the policy of zero tolerance, which includes family separation. Speaker 1 argues that zero tolerance is necessary and compares it to situations where parents are arrested with their children. Speaker 0 points out that legal asylum seekers are not charged with any crime. Speaker 1 argues that seeking asylum should be done through legal channels. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 acknowledging the statement.

The speaker was asked if they still believe the border should be decriminalized. The speaker responded that there should be consequences for those who cross the border illegally, and laws must be followed and enforced. The speaker claims to be the only person in the race who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations trafficking guns, drugs, and human beings. They also claim to be the only person in the race who served a border state as attorney general to enforce laws. They would enforce laws as president.

The speaker states that an historic flood of undocumented immigrants crossed the border during the first three years of the administration, with arrivals quadrupling from the last year of President Trump. The speaker asks if it was a mistake to loosen immigration policies. The other speaker responds that the policies proposed are about fixing a problem, not promoting one. The first speaker reiterates that the numbers quadrupled. The other speaker claims that they have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half, as well as the flow of fentanyl by half, but that Congress needs to act to fix the problem.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 and the mainstream media of covering for a "vicious gang" that has taken the lives of American women. Speaker 1 claims individuals can be classified based on tattoos and streetwear, leading to deportation to El Salvador. Speaker 0 refutes this, stating the Department of Homeland Security and its agents use a "litany of criteria" to ensure individuals qualify as "foreign terrorists" for deportation. Speaker 0 asserts the president authorized a mass deportation campaign targeting "illegal criminal aliens" and defends the credibility of agents risking their lives, while Speaker 1 questions their credibility. Speaker 0 repeats the accusation of covering for a "vicious gang."

Speaker says Mexico is conducting mass deportations of people who stayed illegally to 'manage a country,' insisting this is not about hating people but enforcing laws. They note signs saying 'no human is illegal,' but insist 'once you enter the wrong way, you're breaking the law.' They compare Mexico to the US, claiming Mexico 'start beating you up and then they question you later,' and 'In Mexico, they are doing mass deportations and are using force. Nothing like you see here in The US.' They state, 'Crossing the border illegally, that's a crime,' while adding, 'you don't see it that way, but I do.' They add a Japan analogy: 'Go to Japan and try to do it illegally and guarantee you, you're gonna You don't live in Japan. That's not a crime. You're not breaking the law. I mean, you are breaking the law, but it's not a criminal act.'

If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were previously on board with this. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring more border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government isn't serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to speed the deportation of illegal aliens arrested for crimes and better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

Tom Holman, former acting director of ICE, allegedly threatened to refer someone to the DOJ for using free speech to advise people of their constitutional rights. According to Speaker 2, some people are educating "the worst of the worst" on how to evade law enforcement. It is a crime to not comply with ICE removal orders or hinder one's removal ordered by a federal judge. Speaker 2 anticipates more judges in sanctuary cities making "bad decisions." Supporting sanctuary cities is acceptable, but impeding ICE is a felony that will lead to a request for DOJ prosecution. Democrats want different rules for illegal aliens, despite claiming no one is above the law. US citizen families are separated when a parent goes to jail, but there's resistance to separating illegal alien families. ICE sent three children with their mothers who requested it.

Here's the thing: Some estimate it would cost $88 billion to deport a million people a year. But what price do you put on national security? Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families? Of course there is, families can be deported together. I have given the secretary numerous options to secure the border and save lives. I recommended a zero tolerance policy, the same as when any U.S. citizen parent gets arrested when they're with a child. If I get arrested for a DUI with a child in the car, I'll be separated. When you're in the country illegally, it's a violation. If you want to seek asylum, go through the port of entry, do it the legal way. The Attorney General has made that clear.

- Speaker 0 states that criminals will be deported and that entering the US illegally increases the likelihood of being caught and sent back. They describe these actions as lawful and representative of the approach taken by every Republican and Democratic president for the past fifty years. - Speaker 1 asserts the need for tough conditions: people should be told to come out of the shadows, and if they have committed a crime, they should be deported with no questions asked; they will be removed. - Speaker 2 addresses widespread concern among all Americans about the large numbers of illegal aliens entering the country. They claim the jobs held by these individuals might otherwise be occupied by citizens or legal immigrants, and that public services used by them impose burdens on taxpayers. The administration is described as having moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, and by borrowing welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the upcoming budget, there will be efforts to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former congresswoman Barbara Jordan. - Speaker 2 concludes by emphasizing that we are a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws. It is described as wrong and self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the abuse of immigration laws seen in recent years, and there is a stated commitment to doing more to stop it.

The speaker was asked when the border situation became a crisis, and responded that the immigration system has been broken for a long time, even before the Trump administration. The speaker stated the system needs to be fixed and more resources are needed, such as more judges to process cases faster. Congress is the only place that can fix it. The questioner noted that many Trump border policies were rescinded and that the border patrol union supported a bipartisan bill, but also endorsed Donald Trump and called the current administration a failure on border security.

Speaker 0 states that entering the country illegally is not a criminal violation. Speaker 1 strongly disagrees, calling the statement "one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard" and asserting that it lacked any rational thought. Speaker 1 concludes that everyone who heard the statement is now dumber.

Speaker 1 stated she never intended to nor will she ever allow America to have a border that is not secure. She believes illegal immigration needs consequences. Part of her plan includes putting in resources, including increasing penalties. The full plan is available at kamalaharris.com.

Speaker 1 discusses the crisis at the border, claiming that politicians in the United States are lying to the American people. They mention the large number of people entering the country illegally and the overcrowding at immigration centers. Speaker 0 expresses admiration for Speaker 1's courage and suggests that people heading north are doing so because they believe they are invited by President Biden. Speaker 0 argues that if the border cannot be effectively closed or if people cannot be deported or imprisoned, then the United States does not truly have a country. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 being asked about rescuing children at the border.

"Crossing the border illegally is not a crime?" "No. It's not a criminal act. It's a misdemeanor." "So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law?" "That's the point." "There's no due process. Where's the evidence?" "If they are breaking the law, most people will say, okay. Then they need to go if they're criminals." "But if they're not, why are they being rounded up and sent out, especially when he promised to to deport the criminals, and now he's not doing that." "Misdemeanor is not a crime." "No. If you get charged with a misdemeanor, that's not a criminal act." "We have different levels of crime." "Everything is not the same." "It's not a crime. You're not breaking the law." "A misdemeanor is... If you're speeding, it's a misdemeanor." "That's still breaking the law." "Is it law to come over legally? There are rules that processes that you should follow." "So you're breaking rules, but you're not necessarily breaking a law." "Then you get you suffer the consequences."

The speaker criticizes MSDNC for spreading lies about family separation policies, claiming the Obama administration did not separate children from parents. The speaker dismisses the accusations as nonsense and tells MSDNC to leave.

In the video, Speaker 0 states that around 1.4 million people without legal basis were expelled from the US last year, the highest number in recent history. Speaker 1 challenges this by pointing out that only 72,000 illegal migrants were removed in 2022, compared to 267,000 in 2019. Speaker 1 also highlights that border encounters have increased from 458,000 in 2019 to 2.3 million under the current administration. Speaker 0 responds by mentioning the success of their approach in providing lawful pathways and consequences for irregular border arrivals. They also mention that the public health authority in 2020 limited removals.