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The speaker discusses the 2020 riots and the January 6th attack on the White House. They mention the protection of the president by the Washington DC Police Department and the prevention of help from reaching the White House during the attack. The speaker questions who made the decision and mentions that charges were dropped for those involved in the riots. They highlight the disparity in how justice is being applied and express concern about the politicization of the situation.

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Mass pardons would undermine the rule of law and send a damaging message, particularly to the families of police officers who died during the January 6th attacks, as well as to jurors and court personnel involved in the trials. The principle of general deterrence in criminal law suggests that prosecuting offenders discourages future violence. If pardons imply that supporting Donald Trump and committing violent acts against the Capitol can go unpunished, it poses a serious threat to societal order. This potential outcome raises significant concerns about accountability and the message it sends to the public.

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Pardoning individuals involved in the January 6th Capitol violence was a mistake, as it may suggest that such actions are acceptable. This could lead to increased violence and undermines law enforcement. While Trump has generally supported law enforcement, his decision to issue these pardons disappointed many in that community. He had previously indicated he would do so, which was not surprising. The broader issue of pardoning those who commit violent acts or destroy property, regardless of political affiliation, raises concerns about the abuse of presidential pardon power.

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Speaker 0 highlights the aftermath of the January 6th violence at the Capitol, with over 1200 people charged and almost 900 convicted or pleading guilty. Trump, instead of labeling them criminals, refers to the insurrectionists as patriots and even promises to pardon them if he regains office. While Trump claims there was love on that day, the nation, including law enforcement, witnessed hate and violence. A Capitol police officer describes it as a medieval battle and expresses fear.

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Joe Biden's Department of Justice has caused significant suffering, and justice feels delayed for many. I want to express my gratitude to President Trump for keeping his promise to pardon the January 6th defendants on his first day in office, despite pushback from some Republicans. This act will alleviate a lot of pain and is a crucial first step toward healing and justice for those whose lives have been devastated by the actions of the current administration.

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Axios reports that Trump's pardons related to January 6 were a last-minute decision. One adviser claimed Trump said, "f it, release them all." Concerns were raised about pardoning violent offenders who attacked the Capitol, with calls for a clear response on whether these actions were justified. The congressman acknowledged the lawbreaking but highlighted that many were charged under federal law without due process. He argued that not all offenders were released and questioned the focus on those pardoned. The discussion shifted to broader issues of law enforcement and accountability, with the congressman suggesting that political motivations influenced the treatment of offenders. Ultimately, he deflected responsibility for potential future crimes committed by released individuals, comparing it to other political figures' actions. The conversation ended without a definitive stance on the pardons.

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More than 170 January 6 defendants are accused of using dangerous weapons against law enforcement, sending a message that politics may overshadow policing. Pardoning violent criminals could endanger communities and impact law enforcement morale. Many Capitol Police officers feel angry and upset, believing they did their job properly on that day, while the pardons suggest the actions of the defendants were acceptable. This issue extends beyond former President Trump; former President Biden also commuted the sentence of Leonard Peltier, who killed two FBI agents in 1975. This sends a troubling message to law enforcement, implying that the deaths of officers in the line of duty can be overlooked, which is deeply hurtful to the families of those agents.

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I was going to discuss the January 6 hostages and the actions being taken regarding them. There's a lot happening, and you'll see more action soon. I also wanted to address Joe's recent pardons for individuals guilty of serious crimes, particularly related to the unselect committee that destroyed crucial information, including evidence about Nancy Pelosi rejecting an offer of 10,000 soldiers for security. Even 500 soldiers could have made a difference that day, despite the large crowd. There are many great photos from that day that aren't shown, focusing instead on the Capitol events. I was encouraged to wait to discuss these topics, but I felt it was important to bring them up now.

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The president decided to address the cases of 1,500 individuals affected by the Department of Justice's actions over the past 48 months. Many were arrested for minor infractions, including two grandmothers jailed for being near the Capitol. This politicization of justice raises concerns about fairness. The president's recent pardons for 21 individuals protesting against abortion reflect a commitment to restore balance in the justice system. Critics argue that these actions make the country less safe, but the president counters that reversing politically motivated prosecutions is a step toward safety. He highlights the disparity in sentencing, noting that a career criminal received only 27 months for burning down a police station, while others faced harsher penalties for lesser offenses. The president aims to secure the nation while addressing these injustices.

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It's shocking to witness the president's use of power to pardon 1,500 to 1,600 individuals, including those who may have committed violent acts against law enforcement. Notably, one of the pardoned individuals is a leader of the Proud Boys, highlighting the troubling nature of these early actions. It's hard to fathom that just hours after the Capitol attack, the person who incited it is granting pardons to those involved. This sets a grim tone for the new administration, though it's not entirely unexpected.

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I was going to discuss the January 6 hostages, but there's a lot of action coming on that front. Today, Joe issued pardons for individuals guilty of serious crimes, and the unselect committee has destroyed much of the evidence, including hearings. They deleted information about Nancy Pelosi rejecting an offer of 10,000 soldiers for security. Even 500 could have made a difference that day, despite the large crowd. There are many great photos from that day that aren't shown, focusing instead on the Capitol. I intended to address this, but was advised to wait until tomorrow. I decided to bring it up now.

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Those involved in the violent protests should face consequences, particularly those who assaulted police officers. The actions on the Supreme Court side were unlawful, and those who trespassed should be held accountable. There’s no justification for the violence that occurred. Regarding pardons, Trump has stated he would consider cases individually, not universally. It's important to recognize that Ashley Babbitt was the only person who died on January 6th, and her presence was influenced by Trump's claims about a stolen election. The investigation into that day should have been thorough for transparency. The public deserves to see the full picture of what transpired.

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The speaker met with Mr. Martin, who seems like a good man. The speaker's concerns related to January 6th. Mr. Martin built a compelling case regarding some prosecutions that were heat-of-the-moment bad decisions. The speaker believes anyone who reached the perimeter on January 6th should have been imprisoned for some period of time and has no tolerance for anyone who entered the building. Mr. Martin explained how some people got caught up in it, making a stupid decision to enter a breached building. The speaker's issue isn't whether they should be charged, but by how much. The speaker believes what happened on January 6th was wrong, not prompted by others, and those involved disgraced the United States. Mr. Martin explained that some people were over-prosecuted, and the speaker agreed that some should not have been pardoned. The speaker would support Mr. Martin as a US attorney for any district except the one where January 6th happened and has indicated to the White House that they wouldn't support his nomination.

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January 6 was a direct threat to democracy and the safety of those protecting it, including Capitol Police and local officers. Many off-duty officers rushed to help, and numerous still suffer from injuries sustained that day. The pardons issued by Trump for those involved in the violence are a betrayal of law enforcement and undermine their sacrifices. These pardons included individuals who assaulted officers and committed heinous acts, sending a dangerous message that such violence is acceptable. Despite previous support for law enforcement, many now defend these pardons, which diminishes their credibility. Trump’s actions have released violent individuals back into communities, raising concerns about future criminal acts. I yield back.

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Axios reports that Trump's pardons related to January 6 were a last-minute decision, with Trump instructing his team to "release them all." Concerns arise over pardoning individuals convicted of violent acts during the Capitol attack. One congressman, who was present that day, acknowledges the lawbreaking but argues that many did not receive due process. He defends Trump's decisions, questioning why the media does not focus on those who were not pardoned. The discussion shifts to accountability, with the congressman asserting that if released individuals reoffend, it should not solely fall on Trump, just as Biden shouldn't be blamed for others' actions. The conversation highlights ongoing political divisions and differing perspectives on law enforcement and justice.

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President Trump’s pardons may create a dangerous precedent for groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, potentially encouraging them to act violently in the future, knowing they have support. This is a significant concern for prosecutors. Reflecting on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, it’s crucial to remember the lessons of history, particularly the dangers posed by paramilitary groups. The events of January 6th highlighted the threat of organized armed groups, which were prepared for violence and brought weapons to the Capitol. The pardons send a troubling message that could further embolden these groups, necessitating increased vigilance regarding their influence on society.

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Two men approach police officers at the second line. One discusses his recent release from jail and claims the government has misled the public about January 6th. He argues that while many law enforcement officers were injured, the narrative that protesters killed anyone is false; the deceased were all protesters, including Ashley Babbitt, shot by police. He highlights instances of police brutality and the lack of investigations into officers’ actions. He also mentions the presence of undercover agents, particularly Ray Epps, who allegedly incited the crowd. He criticizes the harsh sentences faced by January 6th participants compared to leniency shown to others in similar situations, calling for their pardons. He emphasizes the unfair treatment and suffering endured by those involved, urging for justice and accountability.

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Kash Patel is unqualified to be FBI director, having previously suggested shutting down FBI headquarters to open a museum for conspiracy theories. His rise reflects a troubling trend of rewarding sycophants. Regarding January 6 pardons, there’s deep concern about pardoning individuals who violently attacked police and tried to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. This contradicts the public's desire for action against crime, not political revenge. As for potential prosecutions of January 6 committee members, there's pride in their oversight work, making preemptive pardons unnecessary. Setting a precedent for blanket pardons at the end of an administration is also undesirable. This message has been communicated to President Biden both publicly and privately.

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Two weeks ago on Fox News, you mentioned that those who protested peacefully on January 6th should be pardoned, while those who committed violence should not. You also noted that there are gray areas in these cases, particularly regarding the Department of Justice's handling of prosecutions, which you believe involved double standards and denial of constitutional rights. Regarding specific cases of violence against police officers, you clarified that while such violence is not justified, the focus should be on the unfair prosecution by the DOJ. You argue that the pardon power is not reserved for perfect individuals, and the decision to pardon was about rectifying perceived injustices in the legal process.

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Joining us are former federal prosecutors Jason Manning and Ashley Akers, discussing the implications of recent pardons. Jason Manning expresses concern that these pardons send a damaging message, particularly highlighted by Sergeant Genell of the Capitol Police, who described them as a mockery of the sacrifices made by officers defending democracy on January 6. Manning emphasizes that this suggests crimes committed in the name of the president are acceptable, undermining the integrity of the justice system and the support police officers need to do their jobs effectively.

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I advocate daily for true justice regarding January 6th. We need to shift the narrative to focus on exoneration for the innocent and significant restitution for those affected. This is not just about pardons; it's about doing what is right and addressing the constitutional violations committed by the DOJ under Merrick Garland and Matthew Graves. Our nation must confront the reality of January 6th and the institutional problems that arose from it. This is a critical issue that requires our attention.

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We were federal prosecutors on the Justice Department's Capitol attack investigation until the Trump administration fired us on January 31st. Why were we fired? Because we did our job. We followed the facts and the law. What we did was justice for 140 police officers wounded on January 6th, 2021. We were hired to prosecute cases from the riot, and none of our defendants were acquitted, which shows the evidence was overwhelming. But last month, the president pardoned even the most violent convicts, calling them "hostages." Letters of termination hit the Justice Department, calling the prosecution itself a grave national injustice. Anyone who has watched videos of January 6th knows that prosecuting the rioters was not the injustice. The injustice has been the Department of Justice turning its back on law enforcement officers, members of Congress, and all the victims affected.

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President Trump expressed openness to hosting January 6 rioters at the White House, claiming they were protesting a "crooked election" and had been treated poorly. However, the reality is that these individuals violently attacked police and stormed the Capitol. Former DC police officer Michael Fanone criticized Trump's perspective, stating that many of these rioters had significant criminal histories and committed violent acts. He emphasized the danger of releasing these individuals back into the community, as they may reoffend and feel emboldened by Trump's support. Fanone also expressed concern over a Republican proposal allowing Trump to serve a third term, warning that it could lead to more political violence. He urged Americans to recognize the seriousness of the situation and the implications of Trump's actions.

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We need to differentiate between the pardons happening today. Joe Biden's pardons, particularly for those involved in January 6th, are distinct from others. Donald Trump ran on a platform of retribution, which is not constitutional. Pardoning his family is unfortunate and clouds his actions. The events of January 6th were unprecedented, and those pardoned undermined our constitution and the election process. Many people felt their lives were not better under Trump, leading them to elect Joe Biden. Therefore, we should categorize these pardons separately, as not all pardons are equal.

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We need to distinguish between the pardons being issued today. Joe Biden's pardons, especially for those involved in the January 6th events, differ significantly from others. Donald Trump campaigned on a platform of retribution, which is not constitutional. While I am a Democrat and find it unfortunate that Trump pardoned his family, the pardons related to January 6th are particularly concerning. They reflect a disregard for the constitution and the electoral process, as many felt their lives were not improved under Trump. Therefore, we should categorize these pardons separately, as not all pardons hold the same weight or significance.
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