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If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were on board with this for years. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

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It's ironic that there's suddenly an issue with successful businessmen in politics when the other side supports numerous wealthy individuals like George Soros and Taylor Swift. This feels disingenuous. The Republican Party, under Trump, has a clear mandate from voters who have rejected the opposing party's policies, including open borders, a struggling economy, and controversial social issues. Voters have turned away from these ideas and embraced our party instead.

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There is concern about the rise of authoritarianism and potential fascism in the US. While the leader plays a role, it is the people who desire this that are a bigger part of the problem. One of the major political parties has been embracing extremism on the ultra right, which has become central to Republican politics. This movement is not solely influenced by Trump, but rather pushes him to be more extreme. It is a problem within the Republican Party, not just one man.

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Donald Trump has proposed building migrant detention camps and deploying the military to deport over 11 million undocumented immigrants, potentially the largest deportation in U.S. history. The current estimate of undocumented immigrants may be as high as 25 to 30 million, with many having entered in the last few years. The situation has changed significantly since 2013, with concerns about individuals from countries lacking vetting systems, including potential terrorists and criminals. This is viewed as mass migration or an invasion, requiring a dramatic response. Additionally, there was a bipartisan proposal for increased border enforcement and limited asylum that was opposed due to concerns about asylum officers granting citizenship without judicial oversight.

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Immigration trends under Bush, Obama, and Trump's first term appear consistent. However, with Biden, the situation seems different, suggesting a lack of control at the border. Democrats may claim they oppose open borders, but the current circumstances imply otherwise. There are millions in South and Central America, and it's clear we cannot accommodate everyone.

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In the past, both parties had strong partisans and bitter battles over issues like gun control, climate change, the economy, and taxes. However, the Republican Party today is being influenced by extreme factions, many of whom take their cues from Donald Trump. Trump has lost all credibility and is only looking out for himself, facing civil and criminal actions. The question is, when will these extremists break ties with him? Perhaps there needs to be a formal deprogramming of cult-like members, but some action must be taken.

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The Republican Party, led by Donald Trump, has reshaped the electorate. In 2017, Democrats held a five-point advantage, which increased to six points by 2021. However, by February 2024, Republicans gained a two-point lead, surpassing Democrats in party affiliation. This shift is due to individuals switching from Democrat or Independent affiliations to Republican, alongside new, Republican-leaning voters entering the electorate. Combined with strong Republican support for Donald Trump, this creates a winning formula. It defies traditional political norms and results in Trump's positive net approval rating, a stark contrast to his largely negative rating during his first term. He's succeeding by doing things his own way.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss immigration and migration as the central issue for their region. They express a belief that immigration policies are letting criminals into the country daily and emphasize the need for the world to know this. They note a large shift in migration patterns, with migrants coming from Central America as well as Venezuela, despite substantial U.S. aid to the region. They describe a U.S. aid strategy they call the root causes strategy, which involves giving money to support and develop the origins of migrants so people can stay where they are. Specifically, they mention pouring 4 billion dollars over four years into Central America and question whether it is effective, acknowledging the continued flow of migrants despite the aid. There is mention of how the aid is allocated: some of it goes to female prisons in Mexico to help train inmates, and there is reference to working on gender issues in Pakistan aimed at recruiting, retaining, and advancing more women in law enforcement. They raise the broader question of whether U.S. taxpayer money should be spent in other countries on these issues, noting that some people claim “women simply don’t seem to care about” certain issues. Speaker 2 frames the discussion with formal gratitude to the committee and indicates upcoming briefings on the FY 2025 budget request on the Hill, highlighting migration as a big issue for their region and asking what is being done to stop migration. The dialogue reflects uncertainty about how to respond to migration and whether the administration can or will justify the policy choices. The speakers discuss the political impact of migration and aid, suggesting that “the end all be all” solution for politics does not exist, and that the other side might gain advantages from perceived failures. They observe that the public view of migration has evolved and that attitudes toward the issue are politically consequential. There is a provocative assertion comparing criminal elements among migrants to the worst criminals in the United States, and a hypothetical claim about if the worst criminals went to Canada, billions of dollars would be sent back, implying a desire to limit illegal entries or criminal migrants. They debate how to adjust the quality of entrants, proposing that a metric change—allowing a high number of entrants only if they have no criminal records and are not in the country illegally—could alter outcomes. Finally, they discuss perceived demographic shifts in the United States, noting that traditional Americans and Latin Americans have different political leanings, with a suggestion that demographics are being shifted by migration and related policy.

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Illegal immigration hit record lows under border patrol services. However, after a change in leadership, around 20 million people entered the country. The data shown is a few months old, but the impact is clear.

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Yale University study suggests that the number of illegal aliens in the US is over 22 million, not 11 million. The Democratic party supports legalizing all illegal immigrants, potentially adding 22 million new voters. Historically, most first-time immigrant voters have voted Democrat. This could create a permanent electoral majority for Democrats. The focus of the immigration debate is not about improving the country or meeting labor needs, but about securing power for Democrats.

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They're voting based on racial animus, not economics. Trump killed the immigration bill to fuel fear of brown people. Immigration was a top issue in Virginia, influenced by Trump's fear-mongering. Borders become a focus during elections, used as boogeymen by politicians to distract from real issues like the deficit. Democrats blame incumbents for border problems, while Republicans shift focus once in power.

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After I left office, illegal immigration hit an all-time low, confirmed by government services and border patrol data. The current administration saw a significant increase, with around 20 million people entering illegally. The data is a few months old, but the impact is clear.

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After I left office, illegal immigration hit an all-time low, according to government data. However, when the current president took over, the number of illegal immigrants surged, with around 20 million entering the country. This chart, though a few months old, clearly shows the drastic increase in illegal immigration.

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In 2016, 38% of voters favored the government trying to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants. By 2025, this number increased to 56%, a majority. This shift aligns the American people more closely with Donald Trump's stance on immigration. This is presented as a significant reason why Americans increasingly believe the country is on the right track regarding immigration policy. It's also suggested this shift contributes to Donald Trump's positive net approval rating on the issue.

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Some Democrats believe vetting people at the border is racist and that anyone who wants to come to America should be able to. Other Democrats see a political advantage in letting immigrants in, hoping to convince them to vote Democrat. The American people elected President Trump because they were sick of open borders, and the border has now been secured by reverting to pre-Biden policies. Border patrol agents are reportedly grateful to be free to do their jobs. Most Americans lock their doors at night not out of hate, but to protect those inside, and they apply the same logic to the southern border. While America welcomes about a million immigrants a year, people want to know who is coming in. Many who came in under Biden were gang members, rapists, drug dealers, and child traffickers. The Biden administration allegedly lied about their efforts, but now the border is secured and efforts are underway to remove the "bad apples."

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A recent ABC News poll shows a strong majority of Americans support deporting all immigrants here illegally, with figures around 55% to 64% across various polls. This reflects a significant shift in public sentiment since 2015, when only 42% supported deportation. By the end of last year, that number rose to 56%, indicating a more hawkish stance on immigration. Additionally, 55% of respondents want to decrease overall immigration levels, the highest since post-9/11, marking a 14-point increase from 2023 and a 17-point rise since 2016. This trend suggests growing support for stricter immigration policies, giving political figures like Donald Trump leverage with the American public.

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Immigration is an issue with working-class voters because of the lack of progress we've made. Republicans weaponize this lack of progress. Last year, there was a bipartisan bill that the Republican majority in the Senate and the House were willing to pass, and President Biden was willing to work with them on it, but Donald Trump told them not to solve the problem. Republicans do not want to solve any issues with immigration. They are completely uninterested in addressing undocumented people or a path to citizenship. Republicans authorized the complete gutting of due process. They understand that they don't even have the infrastructure to deport people, so they are creating private prison camp pipelines.

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President Trump's deportation of migrants has sparked controversy, with some citing inhumane treatment while others express anger over immigrant crime. Despite perceptions, data from Texas indicates illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans. Concerns about welfare burdens are also raised, though illegal immigrants are ineligible for most benefits. Economically, immigrants contribute through labor and taxes, often paying more than they receive. While some Americans may lose jobs, studies suggest immigrants create more jobs overall, founding successful startups and driving innovation. Legal immigration is seen as overly complex, pushing some to enter illegally. Concerns about cultural assimilation and the introduction of unwelcome ideas exist, but historical trends show immigrants typically assimilate within a few generations. Some argue that requiring immigrants to work, learn English, and assimilate would attract the best candidates. It's suggested that promoting American values like individual rights and capitalism would facilitate assimilation.

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If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were previously on board with this. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring more border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government isn't serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to speed the deportation of illegal aliens arrested for crimes and better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

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A recent ABC News poll shows a strong consensus among Americans for deporting all undocumented immigrants, with results from various polls indicating around 55-64% support. This marks a significant increase in hawkish sentiments towards immigration since 2015, when support was only 36%. The latest figures suggest a 20-point rise since Trump’s initial presidency. Additionally, 55% of respondents want to decrease overall immigration levels, the highest since post-9/11, reflecting a 14-point increase from 2023 and a 17-point rise since 2016. Overall, public opinion has shifted towards a more stringent stance on immigration and deportation.

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In the past, both parties had strong partisans who engaged in bitter battles over various issues like gun control, climate change, the economy, and taxes. However, the current Republican Party is being influenced by extreme factions, many of whom take their cues from Donald Trump. Trump, who lacks credibility and is facing legal actions, prioritizes his own interests. It remains unclear when these extremists will break ties with him. Perhaps there should be a formal deprogramming of cult-like members or some other action to address this situation.

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American Immigration has seen 35,100 arrests by ICE since President Trump returned to office. All individuals arrested are considered criminals for illegally entering the country, reflecting a significant cultural shift in how immigration law violations are viewed. This administration categorizes anyone who breaks immigration laws as a criminal, differing from previous perspectives.

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Krystal And Saagar DEBATE Dem Support Laken Riley Act
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Major Democrats are collaborating with Republicans to advance the Laken Riley Act, which aims to enhance immigration enforcement. Senator John Fetterman emphasized the need to deport illegal immigrants convicted of crimes, stating that it’s common sense. The bill has gained support from new Democrats like Ruben Gallego and has passed the House, with 48 Democrats voting in favor, a notable increase from previous attempts. The legislation would require ICE to detain illegal immigrants involved in theft-related crimes, shifting immigration enforcement power to states. This reflects a significant change in Democratic strategy, moving towards a more hawkish stance on immigration, reminiscent of past bipartisan efforts. The bill's name ties to a tragic incident involving an undocumented immigrant, reinforcing the Republican narrative on crime and immigration. This shift indicates a broader Democratic alignment with Trump-era policies, potentially reshaping their approach in future elections as they navigate the complexities of public sentiment on immigration.

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Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
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In this discussion, Ross Douthat and Matthew Continetti explore the evolving landscape of conservatism in the context of Trumpism and the influence of figures like Elon Musk. Continetti highlights Musk's shift from a left-leaning figure to aligning with the tech right, emphasizing his libertarian views on government regulation and his focus on technological progress. The conversation delves into the GOP's current coalition, particularly its unifying stance on immigration, which has become a defining issue for the party. Continetti argues that while Trump has transformed the GOP, especially regarding immigration, there remains a tension between traditional conservative values and the populist elements he introduced. The discussion concludes with the assertion that the ideas shaping the Republican Party will persist beyond Trump, emphasizing the importance of understanding these ideological undercurrents in American politics.

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Rogan and Dillon SHOCKED By Alligator Alcatraz, ICE Raids
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Concerns are emerging from pro-Trump circles regarding the administration's aggressive immigration policies, particularly mass deportations. Tim Dylan criticized the inhumane tactics of targeting law-abiding immigrants, suggesting that proposals like housing detainees in an "alligator swamp" highlight the absurdity of the policies. The Trump administration, led by Stephen Miller, is focused on undoing the Biden era's immigration changes, which included a more lenient asylum process. The GOP base's support for mass deportation contrasts with broader public sentiment, which is less favorable when specifics are revealed. Joe Rogan echoed these concerns, particularly regarding the targeting of migrant workers and students. The administration's approach risks alienating moderate voters, while the Trump base remains largely supportive. The increase in ICE's budget and resources raises fears of a mass surveillance state that could impact all citizens, not just immigrants. The scale of deportations proposed poses significant political and logistical challenges.
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