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Speaker 0 states that while they don't think it's fair, they dislike belittling the trans community and the right wing's rhetoric, emphasizing that trans people "just wanna survive." Speaker 1 questions who is talking down to whom, asking if female athletes are doing so. Speaker 2 accuses "Vanilla Barack Obama" of pandering for the black vote, recalling a previous discussion about reparations in a non-slave state. Now, according to Speaker 2, Obama has decided to make his stand on "letting boys beat up on girls," which Speaker 2 deems unfair.

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Speaker 0, identifying as the only Black lesbian in the room, asks Senator Winner a direct question about women’s safety in female-only spaces, referencing an incident at Gold’s Gym where she was attacked in a locker room by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence. She asks what Senator Winner would say to women seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who, under California law, can self-identify as women in women-only spaces. Speaker 1 responds that “we want everyone to be safe,” and notes that trans people exist as both men and women, saying, “if you're trans women or women.” He emphasizes the need to protect safety for all, acknowledging that trans women are part of the discussion. Speaker 0 continues, praising Senator Winner for housing bills and other actions, but asserts that “millions of women across America are being harassed and sexually assaulted in locker rooms.” She reiterates that she is a lesbian Black woman, not transphobic or homophobic, and stresses that some bills passed by Winner are dangerous for women and young children. She states she represents her community and urges protection for women in light of concerns about trans-inclusive policies. Speaker 2 interjects, urging Speaker 0 to allow Senator Winner to respond, while Speaker 0 reiterates the need for protection of women, specifying “Women. Women. Trans women are doing things. Women. Women.” She asserts that she was assaulted, adding, “They are not. They are men.” She describes the assailant as someone who “broke his wife’s jaw” requiring reconstructive surgery, and emphasizes her identity as a lesbian who is Black. She invites another Black woman to share her feelings, while also challenging the presence of others in the room. Speaker 1 reiterates the goal of protecting the safety of all women and acknowledges that “trans women are also brutalized in this country.” The conversation emphasizes a tension between protecting women’s safety and acknowledging the experiences of trans women, with Speaker 0 insisting, “We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that wanna say they're women. They're not women.” Speaker 2 responds by leaving, citing that the group is not protecting women, and remarks on the bills, stating she has read many of them and still finds issues “not right.” The exchange ends with Speaker 2, introducing herself as Tish Heine, and a comment about not allowing Blackness and civil rights to be used to justify laws for children to transform, followed by a remark about disparities in access to tampons versus transformation medication. The conversation also touches on broader political history, with Speaker 1 and Speaker 0 referencing political dynamics, including a note that “things were going so smoothly” before recalling an earlier moment in 2008 involving Aaron Peskin.

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Transgender boys benefit from free tampons in bathrooms. Speaker 1 argues that only women menstruate, based on chromosomes. Speaker 0 counters that trans men and non-binary individuals also menstruate. Speaker 1 insists that they are women dressed as men, while Speaker 0 questions the definition of a man. They debate the distinction between sex and gender, with Speaker 0 asserting that they are different. Speaker 1 disagrees and accuses Speaker 0 of making up conclusions. Speaker 0 argues against denying someone's identity, while Speaker 1 denies being hateful. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 accusing Speaker 1 of being hateful.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if biological men should be able to use women's restrooms. Speaker 1 questions the relevance to immigration. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 has ever used the women's restroom, after Speaker 1 allegedly said everyone should use the other gender's bathroom today as a protest. Speaker 1 says they have not and denies advocating for men to use women's restrooms. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 regrets encouraging men to use women's restrooms and if Speaker 1 ever considered that women don't want men in their bathrooms. Speaker 0 then asks if Speaker 1 thinks it's appropriate for men to use women's restrooms because Speaker 0 believes Speaker 1 is taking rights away from underage girls.

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Speaker 0 argues about genetics, Speaker 1 shifts to brain scans. Speaker 0 threatens violence. Speaker 2 mentions a criminal case involving a transgender person. Speaker 3 corrects someone on their gender, leading to a heated exchange.

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Speaker 0 describes an incident at the WE Spa where a man enters the women's section with his penis exposed, causing fear among women and young girls. “It's not okay. Now I can't even go and put my clothes on because he's down there. Yeah. I don't feel comfortable. We don't feel uncomfortable.” The speaker emphasizes that this behavior happened in the women’s section, with the implication that a man came into an area designated for women and girls, and asserts that “his dick is out. To the campus side? Yeah. His dick is slinging left and right, and we're women in there, and young girls are there.” The speaker challenges the arrangement, stating, “And you allow that. So then you're lying.” They argue that there is a distinction between gender rights and discrimination, claiming that “We cannot discriminate against gender rights. It's not discrimination. It's an impostor. You cannot identify a impostor, someone faking to be a woman just because they feel like they wanna call themselves a woman.” There is a dismissive stance toward the idea of recognizing someone’s gender identity in this context, with a reference to being “pre board” as a test they don’t care about. Speaker 1 interjects with a repetition of “a situation,” emphasizing that there will be consequences or a response: “You gonna have a situation.” Speaker 0 responds with escalating emotion, invoking religious language: “The blood of Jesus. You're gonna have a situation. There’s going to be a situation.” They report being at the WE Spa and witnessing a man slinging his penis, expressing disbelief and stating that some women are afraid to speak up, while they themselves are determined to speak out: “I couldn’t believe what I saw. I couldn’t believe that this man, okay, and these people up here and you got some women scared to say something. Baby, I'm not scared to say a thing.” Speaker 0 asserts a strong stance against a man asserting entrance into the men’s section or a person presenting as a woman while being male, stressing concern for children and mothers present: “The blood of Jesus against this wilding out lion spirit. Sit up here. Gonna bring him to let a man come in here, slinging his penis up in here. No. No. No.” The speaker insists that somebody who identifies as a man cannot enter the women’s area, or that someone claiming to be a woman but possessing male anatomy should be challenged. The speaker ends with a warning that “these people, they about to find out though. Watch.”

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Speaker 1 expresses that the situation is traumatizing and asserts that as a woman there is a space reserved for women. She questions the right of a transgender person to be in that space, stating, "he has a penis. A full and testicle. Okay? And and I don't care what it it's a man. You got one? You're a man." She argues that if they entered the men's section based on anatomy, it would be a man, and notes that they may not like women, but that for her and many other women, they do not feel comfortable and "it's not okay." She adds, "I'm sorry to talk to Okay? So well, I yeah. Yeah. You're sorry. You should be, sweetie, and you're out of alignment, and this is not right." She implies the other person is out of alignment and suggests attention to the situation, even commenting on the other person’s personal circumstances: "it must be hard not being a real man. Try it." She urges that every woman get all of their information. Speaker 0 responds, discussing a security guard who said that this is not allowed. Speaker 1 disregards the security guard's stance, insisting she does not care what the security guard says. Speaker 0 clarifies that the security guard doesn't want to be involved, and Speaker 1 insists that the guard should not have been present or allowed in the space. The exchange centers on whether a transgender person should be in the women's space and the authorities' stance on access. The discussion highlights discomfort, boundaries, and perceived inappropriateness from the perspective of Speaker 1, while Speaker 0 defers to the security guard's position. The dialogue ends with an emphatic consolidation of their stance: "Exactly. Thank you. Exactly. No."

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Mister Speaker, powerful anecdotes cannot stand for the consent of another. If women feel unsafe, we should listen. Accommodating a small segment shouldn't supersede women's concerns. The consent of one person doesn't equal another's comfort in bathrooms, sports, or prisons. Nuanced conversations about respect and humanity are possible. Policies protecting women's spaces aren't transphobic. Some liberals agree but fear speaking up due to party orthodoxy silencing women. Both transgender individuals and women fear violence and disrespect. HB 148 allows localities and businesses to define sex for specific policies and isn't a "Nazi movement." Municipalities, private gyms, and prisons should, in limited cases, separate people based on biological sex. Consider the alternative viewpoint without resorting to labels like "bigot" or "transphobe" when questioning women's spaces. Representative asks if comparing bathroom policies to Jim Crow laws is fair, referencing white-passing African Americans. Representative responds that race and Jim Crow are significantly different than sex and women's private spaces.

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Speaker 0 expresses concern about going to a sports group and potentially being made uncomfortable. Speaker 1 argues that trans women are women and face the same risks of rape as cisgender women. Speaker 2 agrees and emphasizes that there should be no differentiation. Speaker 0 clarifies that they are not scared, but they just want to be able to go to the sports group without any issues. Speaker 1 suggests that Speaker 0 educate themselves on the topic, as there are many support groups available. Speaker 0 expresses frustration with being told they have to educate themselves.

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The speakers are discussing the idea that transgender women do not exist. One person argues that if something racist was written on a door, it would be understood why it shouldn't be there, but the concept of transgender women is different. The other person tries to explain that not all people are born with the same gender identity, but the first person insists that a man can never be a woman. They both acknowledge a big gap in understanding between them.

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The administration uses "birthing people" instead of "mothers." Society is in turmoil due to the lack of respect for women, children, and men. Women are crucial as they birth nations and must be protected. Attacking masculinity is a way to weaken society. Real men and women protect each other and society.

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Speaker 1 plans to paint an art project in pride colors and write "fascists" on the front. Speaker 2 discusses the shift from "I identify as" to "I am a woman." Speaker 3 expresses anger towards various individuals and groups. Speaker 4 mentions a high school volleyball player who was injured by a male player. Speaker 5 asks if the player would have retired without this incident. Speaker 6 shares a story of Ruby being attacked for using the wrong pronouns. Speaker 0 mentions the importance of not being violent towards others.

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A transgender activist was asked to explain the premise of the movement, but they deflected and changed the subject. The speaker believes it is their right to ask this question because there are civil rights specifically for women, such as special bathrooms and sports leagues. They argue that if men are claiming the right to enter these spaces, either all special rights for women need to be abolished or the activists need to explain how these men are actually women. The speaker is not willing to abolish women's rights and believes most women in the country feel the same way.

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The speaker discusses the issue of including trans women in the category of women. They argue that not including trans women is transphobic and offensive. The speaker believes that trans people exist and should be recognized as the gender they identify with. They express concern that excluding trans women erases their experiences and perpetuates harmful ideas. The conversation becomes heated as the speaker challenges the other person's beliefs and urges them to educate themselves on the topic. The discussion touches on the issue of rape, highlighting that trans women are also vulnerable to sexual violence.

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Speaker 0 questions if Speaker 1 remains politically neutral while handing out materials in support of transgenderism. Speaker 1 denies being political and claims to be a community liaison officer for the LGBT community. Speaker 0 argues that allowing transgender individuals into women's spaces is an issue. Speaker 1 refuses to engage in the discussion and states they will not answer further questions.

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Transgender boys benefit from free tampons in bathrooms. Speaker 1 argues that only women menstruate, based on chromosomes. Speaker 0 counters that trans men and non-binary individuals also menstruate. Speaker 1 insists that they are women dressed as men, while Speaker 0 questions the definition of a man. They debate the distinction between sex and gender, with Speaker 0 emphasizing that gender is about identity. Speaker 1 claims that those who disagree are labeled as hateful, but denies harboring hate. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being hateful towards transgender men. The conversation ends unresolved.

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Speaker 0 explains that it's common to have fears based on past experiences, but it's important not to let those fears cloud our judgment. Speaker 1 expresses concern about trans women, but Speaker 0 encourages them to educate themselves and seek support from online groups. Speaker 1 argues that trans women are not women, but Speaker 0 emphasizes that being trans is not a belief system, but a fact. Speaker 0 clarifies that being trans is not a choice, just like being gay is not a choice. The conversation revolves around understanding and accepting transgender individuals.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 about their pronouns. Speaker 1 identifies as "they/them" and Speaker 2 is interrupted before stating their pronouns. Speaker 2 then asks about the number of genders, and Speaker 1 expresses the need to address the issue seriously. Speaker 0 interrupts and says "enough." The conversation ends abruptly.

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The speaker argues against the idea of self-identifying with different genders, stating that pronouns cannot be chosen like adjectives. They question the definition of womanhood and challenge the concept of trans women being considered women without a clear definition. Another speaker suggests that womanhood is an umbrella term for those who identify as women, but struggles to provide a concrete definition. The conversation delves into the complexities of gender identity and the appropriation of womanhood.

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An 18-year-old high school student raises concerns about transgender individuals claiming to be women and using women's spaces. They mention an incident at MLK High School where a transgender woman, who is biologically male, had an altercation with a young woman. The student questions why the safety of women is being compromised by allowing mentally confused men to use women's spaces. They express that true girls like themselves, who are female down to their DNA, should have a say in this matter. The student urges action to protect the safety of women and calls on the school to address the issue. Another student shares their experience of being continuously bothered by the transgender individual and expresses frustration with the lack of action from the school.

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Speaker 0 asks, "What is a woman?" Speaker 1 says they are unsure how to answer the question. Speaker 0 states that a woman is an adult human female and that men cannot become women. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1's party of violence and erasing women, further claiming they don't respect women. Speaker 0 calls Speaker 1 a bigot, misogynist, and sexist.

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Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of spreading propaganda and not providing education. Speaker 1 questions if Speaker 0 will target the transgender community next. Speaker 0 interrupts Speaker 2, apologizes, and insults Speaker 1's understanding of the topic. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0's lack of knowledge.

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The speaker opposes Bill C-16 and refuses to use gender pronouns demanded by transgender activists. They believe it is ridiculous and an invasion of personal rights. They mention the importance of the word "Ms." in the English language, which provided dignity and authority to women regardless of marital status. They criticize the political agitation to change everyday speech and express their frustration with people searching for their own identity and imposing it on others. The speaker asserts that the English language belongs to everyone and rejects the idea of being told how to use pronouns.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Fox Ratings Crater, and Lia Thomas Slams Women, with Allie Beth Stuckey, Melissa Francis, and More
Guests: Allie Beth Stuckey, Melissa Francis
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Megyn Kelly opens the show discussing Tucker Carlson's return with a video that garnered millions of views, contrasting it with Fox News's declining ratings after his departure. She highlights the anger among viewers and questions Fox's motives for firing Carlson, suggesting they aim to ruin his reputation. Kelly references a New York Times report revealing Carlson's off-camera comments about his audience and a senior executive, implying a smear campaign against him. Melissa Francis joins the discussion, sharing her own experience of being abruptly fired from Fox News amid an arbitration over pay. They analyze the New York Times article, which claims Carlson made offensive remarks in private messages, and question the timing and motives behind the leak. Francis argues that if Fox were genuinely concerned about such behavior, many others in the network would also face consequences. The conversation shifts to the ratings drop at Fox News, with Kelly providing statistics showing a significant decline in viewership since Carlson's exit. They speculate on Fox's strategy to separate Carlson from his audience to mitigate the fallout from his departure. Kelly introduces Ali Beth Stuckey to discuss Leah Thomas, a transgender athlete, and the implications of gender identity in sports. Stuckey critiques the notion that feminism is being used to justify trans inclusion in women's spaces, asserting that biological definitions of womanhood are being undermined. They express frustration over the term "transphobic" and emphasize the importance of standing firm in their beliefs about gender. The discussion continues with a focus on the dangers of allowing biological males into women's spaces, citing incidents where women and girls have been put at risk. They highlight the need for women to reclaim their rights and protect vulnerable populations from aggressive ideologies. Kelly and Stuckey also touch on the case of Zoe Zephyr, a transgender lawmaker in Montana, who faced censure for inflammatory remarks regarding legislation on minors' access to gender-affirming care. They criticize Zephyr's rhetoric and the broader implications of allowing minors to undergo irreversible medical procedures. Finally, Kelly discusses the firing of Don Lemon from CNN, referencing a Variety article detailing his history of alleged misogyny and inappropriate behavior. Tatiana Siegel, the journalist behind the piece, explains the context of Lemon's past actions and the challenges he may face in finding future employment in the industry. The conversation concludes with a critique of workplace relationships and the consequences of poor decisions by executives.

The Megyn Kelly Show

O.J. Simpson Dies, and Men in Women's Spaces, w/ Viva Frei, Holloway, Allie Beth Stuckey, and Mayer
Guests: Viva Frei, Holloway, Allie Beth Stuckey, Mayer
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Megyn Kelly opens the show with breaking news about OJ Simpson's death at 76 due to cancer. His family announced his passing, highlighting his battle with prostate cancer. OJ Simpson, once a beloved sports figure and actor, became infamous for the 1994 murder trial of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. The trial captivated the nation, revealing the brutality of the murders and sparking discussions about race and justice in America. OJ was acquitted in 1995, a verdict that divided the country and highlighted deep-seated racial tensions. He was later found liable for wrongful death in a civil suit and faced legal troubles, including a conviction for armed robbery in 2008, serving nine years before his release in 2017. Kelly transitions to a legal discussion with lawyers Viva Frei and Phil Holloway, who reflect on OJ's legacy and the implications of his trial. They discuss how the trial's outcome was influenced by public perception and the prosecution's mistakes, particularly regarding the handling of evidence. The conversation shifts to current legal matters, including Donald Trump's upcoming criminal trial related to hush money payments. The hosts express concerns about the fairness of the trial in Manhattan, suggesting that political bias may affect the proceedings. The discussion continues with the implications of Trump's legal challenges on the upcoming election, emphasizing how a conviction could impact his support among Republicans and Independents. They analyze the political landscape, noting that Trump's legal troubles could be seen as election interference. The conversation then shifts to cultural issues, particularly the impact of transgender policies on women's spaces and sports. Kelly and her guests discuss incidents involving male athletes competing in women's sports and the implications for female athletes. They express concerns about the safety and fairness of allowing transgender women to compete against biological women, citing specific examples of injuries and discomfort experienced by female athletes. The hosts also address the broader societal implications of gender ideology, emphasizing the need to protect women's rights and spaces. They critique the normalization of men in women's locker rooms and the potential dangers posed by such policies. The show concludes with a discussion on mental health, particularly the over-prescription of SSRIs to young people. The guests share personal experiences and concerns about the medicalization of emotions, advocating for a more holistic approach to mental health that addresses root causes rather than relying solely on medication. They emphasize the importance of understanding and managing emotions without resorting to quick fixes. Overall, the episode covers a range of topics, from legal issues surrounding high-profile cases to cultural debates about gender and mental health, highlighting the complexities and challenges facing society today.
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