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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

A partnership between Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Friends of Zion Museum led to an unprecedented visit, marking the first time Israel officially partnered with 1,000 strategic pastors to commission them as ambassadors to combat antisemitism and reach the youth of their generation. Dr. Mike Evans states that Israel's fight is not just on the battlefield, and that there is currently an ideological war that Israel's losing, so they need the evangelicals and the Zionists to fight an ideological war. One of the gathering's goals is to strengthen Christian support during a time of growing global antisemitism, with the message that the pulpit must speak louder than the propaganda. A speaker emphasizes that pastors should go to their pulpits to speak with clarity and boldness, pushing back on the antisemitism and bigotry directed toward Jewish people and toward the people of Israel. Another speaker notes that the pulpit has become quiet about these issues, and that cultural voices have spoken louder than pastors on these topics, making it motivating to return to the message of who Israel is to the Lord and to reaffirm Christians’ role in supporting and praying for Israel. There is a concern about a growing cancer within the evangelical movement in America, where people think Israel doesn’t matter and that nothing biblical supports the relationship to Israel, which is described as very dangerous. Ambassador Huckabee, a former pastor, warns of rising danger in the church, arguing that the idea that God will break His covenant or has broken His covenant with the Jewish people borders on blasphemy, because if God will break His covenant with the Jewish people, he questions what would prevent Him from breaking His covenant with Christians as well.

Speaker 0 delivers a heartfelt apology and clarification surrounding a controversial statement. He begins by admitting regret for saying that he “despise[d] Christian Zionists,” explaining that the remark came from anger and informing listeners that he does not actually despise Christian Zionists, whom he then describes as among the nicest and most trustworthy people in various respects. He emphasizes that his anger was aimed at a particular line of thinking, not at individuals who identify as Christian Zionists. He specifies the core issue that provoked his comments: on at least a couple of occasions, the Israeli government bombed churches in Gaza and killed Christians. He asserts that these bombings were not accidents and notes that Israel is a high-tech military force capable of precision, to the extent that he mentions they gave pagers with bombs to Hezbollah. He states that “they didn’t accidentally bomb two churches and kill these Christians, and they never apologized for it.” In discussing responses to this grievance, he says he raised the issue with a couple of Christian leaders, including the Speaker of the House, asking how their government could be paying to bomb churches and, by extension, paying for it. He recounts the consistent reaction he received: “the Bible commands us to support Israel.” He recounts a critical question: “And I said, so Jesus is telling us that we need to get on board with murdering Christians. Is that what you’re saying?” He characterizes the response as essentially silencing him, stating that they “basically were just like, shut up,” which he found deeply distressing as a Christian. He clarifies the main point he intended to convey: one cannot support the murder of innocents, regardless of the pretext, and such an act is not allowed in his religion. He asserts that there is no justification for murder of innocents in the New Testament, and that if there were, it would not represent his religion at all. He reiterates his distress and emphasizes that he does not hate and should not have used the term “despise,” clarifying that the statement was about a specific line of thinking, not about the individuals. He concludes with a sincere apology for not being clearer in his original expression.

A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. However, this support contradicts biblical predictions of the antichrist ruling from Israel. Jews await their messiah, who Christians believe will be the antichrist. This contradiction raises questions about the true identity of the messiah and the implications of supporting Israel.

America must consider the price of its alliance with Israel and how it has benefited. Contrary to claims that supporting Israel blesses America, the speaker argues that Christian Zionism is a heresy originating from the Scofield Bible and fueled by televangelists. The speaker claims Jews lost their chosen status by rejecting Jesus, transferring it to Christians. Despite trillions of dollars in American aid, the speaker suggests America has not been blessed. They cite the rise of LGBT values, abortion, economic decline due to open borders and mass immigration, and increased crime and drug abuse as evidence. The speaker claims Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world and corrupts other nations. The speaker claims real Christians, including those in occupied Palestine, reject Christian Zionism, citing the Jerusalem Declaration. The speaker concludes that Christian Zionism is a satanic cult that has cost America lives and treasure. The speaker urges Christians to stand with Jesus and act accordingly.

Benjamin Netanyahu relies on US support to veto UN resolutions against Israel and for military assistance. The idea of Israel as a biblical prophecy has been present since the 1970s, particularly among evangelical Christians in the US. Amid the recent conflict in Gaza, American evangelical pastors continue to reference biblical prophecies. Christian Zionism, which predates Jewish Zionism, is a belief that the return of Jewish people to Israel will lead to the second coming of Jesus Christ. This movement heavily influences US foreign policy, with over 100 evangelical members in Congress. Evangelical support for Israel extends to fundraising, organizing tours of the occupied West Bank, and opposing the two-state solution. Netanyahu uses scripture to appease his main supporters, the Christian Zionist movement.

It's strange that many Christian conservatives/nationalists are anti-Israel, given Israel's importance to both Jews and Christians, especially concerning Jesus's Jewish heritage and biblical history. Organized tours to Israel often have more Christians than Jews. All Jewish and Christian people should care about preserving Israel to preserve biblical history. Christian history is tied to Jewish history; Christianity wouldn't exist without Judaism. God's covenant with Abraham remains with Israel and the Jewish people. Israel fights America's battles by pushing back radical Islamic jihadism. Judeo-Christian values connect Christianity, the Jewish people, Israel, and the United States. The threat in America is real; if pro-Israel events aren't safe in Texas, nowhere in America is safe for Jews or Christians who support Israel.

To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

The discussion centers on the way lawmakers reference religion in foreign policy and whether that approach is effective. Speaker 0 asks the audience how many think a respected lawmaker like Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel, even if he doesn’t know the verse, and whether that is the best approach. Speaker 1 responds by referencing Ted Cruz’s Genesis twelve three, and notes that many find that off-putting when contrasted with the New Testament, specifically Paul’s writings about the new flesh not being the same as the people in the old covenant. Speaker 1 asks, “Yes. Romans nine?” and agrees with the sentiment. Speaker 0 then asks Speaker 1 if they are Catholic, to which Speaker 1 replies that they are converting Catholic from Judaism, revealing that they are ethnically Jewish. The exchange confirms Speaker 1’s Jewish ethnicity. Speaker 0 brings up concerns about APAC, asking if Speaker 1 has concerns about APAC. Speaker 1 confirms that they do. Speaker 0 notes that some people tell them that criticizing APAC equates to being anti-Semitic, asking whether this is true. Speaker 1 calls that notion ridiculous and says it’s great to have concern for one’s country. The conversation shifts to APAC’s influence. Speaker 0 presents a characterization (as a possible summary of Speaker 1’s view) that APAC represents a form of prioritization that cuts in line, away from the American people. Speaker 0 asks whether this is a fair summary. Speaker 1 answers affirmatively, “100%.” Finally, they articulate the core idea: the public votes and are citizens, but a separate group is described as receiving higher priority for whatever reasons. Speaker 1’s agreement underscores a shared concern that APAC’s influence creates a prioritization that bypasses the ordinary American electorate.

The speaker argues that “Christians evangelists here in America, which almost all of them are Republicans, they probably all gonna vote for Trump” and that they are “very poor Israel.” He says, without Christianity, the U.S. has little to do with Israel, noting “The only things they are helping us is because of religion reason.” He contends they’re “not doing it for us. They are doing it only for themselves.” He warns, “Make no mistake. They all believe that once we will go back to the holy land and JC Penny will show up to redeem the world, he will put us all to be burned in hell,” because “we've never accepted him, and we won't accept him.” He questions why “a lot of the people who made Aliyah, it's Christian money,” adding “They get hundreds of millions of dollars donation from them.” He says “the Messiah would come,” but “They just have the wrong identity of the Messiah. That's it. They believe that it's actually JC.” “They would dump all the Christian symbols you know well because it would be so obvious that it's all fake. Mhmm. Rabbi Thay”

Speaker 0 states their support for Israel stems from a biblical teaching: those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern government of Israel. Speaker 0 clarifies the Bible refers to the nation of Israel. Speaker 1 asks for a definition of Israel, questioning if it means the current political entity run by Benjamin Netanyahu, and Speaker 0 confirms that it does. Speaker 1 suggests the Genesis verse refers to the Jewish people, but Speaker 0 disagrees. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0 cannot cite the exact scripture. Speaker 0 says they are explaining their personal motivation, not saying all Christians must support the modern state of Israel. Speaker 1 summarizes Speaker 0's position as being based on a Bible verse they cannot locate.

"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

Speaker 0 argues that America’s economy is war-based and that those who plan it rely on Christians for support. Christian Zionists, by whatever name, are described as the primary enablers of serial wars, sanctions, and occupations of Islamic states. The question posed is why Christians support war when Jesus demanded peace, with the claim that they have been conditioned to see Islam as a threat. Christian Zionist leaders are accused of using themselves as propagandists against Islamic governments, including Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bosnia, Iran, and Sudan. The speaker’s purpose is to explain how this has been done and what can be changed, asserting that wars are an official economic policy of the U.S. government and that Christian Zionists are the only major faction supporting wars in places like Iraq. Responsibility for economic and social disasters, rising energy and food costs, is attributed largely to Christian Zionists, who are described as influential in presidential politics and as among our friends and relatives, requiring a constructive approach rather than ridicule. Speaker 0 states that Christian Zionism is a promoted religion that makes little sense on its own and is not believed for its logic. The claim is that endless wars erode morality and currency, citing Great Britain as an historical example. Christian Zionists are said to be swayed to support war as long as they believe Muslims are on the receiving end and Israel benefits. The speaker emphasizes not excusing Jewish war-making but asserts that for every Jewish Zionist, there are 10 or 20 Christian Zionists doing their work. Christian Zionists are accused of turning away from Jesus’ words, “blessed are the peacemakers,” and love of enemies, and the speaker asserts that followers who fail to stand for justice will be questioned. Speaker 1 adds that the Christian Bible demands peace, with “Blessed are the peacemakers” cited as a central, uncompromising message. They challenge pastors and religious leaders to find any line in the Bible permitting war or killing, concluding there is none. Speaker 0 notes that political change requires understanding the roots of Christian Zionism, mentioning that many who “Israel first” do not identify as Christian Zionists and may deny the label. Media figures at the apex of Christian Zionism—John Hagee, Ron Parsley, Pat Robertson, the late Jerry Falwell—are named as having expressed views that war against Islamic states is necessary, including war against Iran, and some advocate preemptive military action against Iran. Speaker 1 asserts that Christian Zionism is the only religion with war as a core principle, contrasting it with mainstream Christianity of 2,000 years. They question how to identify a Christian Zionist with a litmus test: whether they believe modern Israel fulfills biblical prophecy. Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss biblical interpretation, arguing that God’s promise to Abram did not grant land to present-day Israel forever, and that Scofield’s notes in The Scofield Reference Bible (fundamental to Christian Zionism) distort scripture. They criticize Oxford University Press for promoting Scofield’s notes, suggesting that Scofield’s footnotes insert unbiblical interpretations, such as an unconditional blessing of Israel and a perpetual land grant, and claim that these notes misrepresent the promise and connect blessings and curses to contemporary politics. Historical commentary includes: the Balfour Declaration, World War I involvement, and the role of Zionist influence through Scofield and Oxford University Press in shaping American evangelical support for Israel. Philip Morrow (Gospel of the Kingdom) and Doctor F. Furman Curley are cited as early critics who warned against dispensationalism and Christian Zionism, linking Armageddon predictions to support for war. The transcript includes firsthand testimony from Gaza: Shireen, a Palestinian from Gaza, describing nightly missile raids and occupation, and the film’s purpose to document the consequences of Christian Zionist policy. The concluding appeal urges sharing the film with mainline pastors and encouraging recovery of America for God, rejecting the notion of a divinely ordained Israeli state. The film is dedicated to Shireen and others affected by the conflict.

Speaker 0 asserts that if you have a Scofield Reference Bible, you need to know the author of that reference Bible because he’s not who people think he is; he is not Doctor Scofield. Speaker 1 corrects: Never was a doctor. Speaker 0 specifies: Nelson Darby is the man who created dispensationalism, and Larkins basically packaged it in his books, but it was Scofield who distributed it. John Nelson Darby’s doctrines supposedly went nowhere in Britain among the Plymouth Brethren through the 1800s, with only pockets in the United States aware of them, until Cyrus Schofield became the propaganda meister for Darby’s doctrine. Speaker 2 defines the Scofield Reference Bible as a King James Bible with notes in the margins acting as a commentary, in which dispensational truth is taught, and the Bible was shipped around the world. Speaker 3 adds: Many contributors to the Scofield Reference Bible helped sweep the movement across the United States. Speaker 2 explains: Somebody financed publication of many Scofield Bibles, and they were mailed to churches across America. Speaker 0 elaborates: The Bibles were given to Baptist young preachers in seminaries and Bible colleges, facilitating the spread of dispensationalism across pulpits and the country. Speaker 0 continues: Conferences, the establishment of Bible colleges, and Dallas Theological Seminary were part of a coordinated effort to spread the dispensational movement, which was very successful for a time. Speaker 1 notes: The Bibles were distributed widely in rural America and small town churches. Speaker 0 adds: Millions were distributed. Speaker 1 explains: Bible salesmen would get the Bibles for free, then sell them for whatever they could get. Speaker 1 answers: They got them for free from the publishing company—Oxford. Speaker 4 states: C. I. Schofield is placed on a pedestal by independent fundamental Baptists; pulpits across America feature a Schofield Reference Bible. Yet this is a man who preferred to use the Revised Version over the King James for his references, and he used the King James 1611 only because of its popularity at the time. So, he supposedly “threw the King James Bible under the bus” and said it’s not a good one, but used it because it was most popular. The speaker questions why Baptist, King James Only advocates promote a heretic who downplayed and disliked the King James Bible as a man of God who can teach good doctrine. Speaker 0 claims: They infiltrated American evangelical churches with Zionist propaganda, and the Baptist, Pentecostal, Assemblies of God, Church of God, and other denominations progressively bought into it. Speaker 1 adds: People actually believe the notes are sacred as the texts themselves. Speaker 5 contributes: A person with a Schofield Bible wants to read Schofield’s notes on Acts 15, noting that dispensationally, this is the most important passage in the New Testament, giving the divine purpose for this age and for the beginning of the next.

The transcript argues that Oxford University Press launched a deliberate attack on Christianity by publishing the Schofield Reference Bible in 1908, a Bible whose notes purportedly inject reinterpretations that connect the future state of Israel to access to God. It states the book’s importance led OUP to open its first American branch, publishing it and promoting it through key American seminaries and Bible schools, thereby shaping future pastors’ beliefs to align with a peacemaking tradition favorable to the state of Israel. The speakers claim many pastors were unaware of the danger at the time, and that the Schofield Bible would later be used by secular powers to steer Christians toward political and financial servitude to present-day Israel. They assert American Christianity became increasingly Zionized after 1948 with the appearance of the state of Israel, aided by Oxford University Press’s Zionist influence and its New York publishing branch, which published the Schofield Reference Bible as a foundational document for Christian Zionism and evangelicalism, contributing to its growth through deception. The narrative links the founders of world Zionism, especially Chaim Weizmann, to efforts to involve the United States in World War I and to gain land in Palestine, arguing that a small number of dominant American scientists influenced President Wilson to enter the war, resulting in substantial American casualties while enabling Zionist aims in Palestine after the Balfour Declaration. The Schofield Reference Bible is described as copyrighted in 1909, an old and new testament with many notes added originally in the Old Testament, with later additions in the New Testament and a radical 1967 revision. The cover features Cyrus I. Scofield and an editorial board including James M. Gray, president of Moody Bible Institute, and other seminary leaders. Distribution allegedly occurred through seminaries, influencing new pastors who returned to churches with the Schofield Bible in hand. A critical examination of a page from Genesis 12:3 is used to illustrate the alleged distortions: the verse, part of the Torah and quoted in the Koran, is presented as a basis for Christians and Zionists to claim that present-day Israel should own all land in the Middle East beginning with Palestine. The 1967 Scofield edition reportedly contains more footnotes than the 1909 version, with a footnote claiming an unconditional promise of land to Israel forever, which the speakers assert is not stated in the passage. They argue that the footnotes render Abraham’s promise as a perpetual land grant to Israel, and that the note uses the later term “Jew” unjustly to describe biblical figures from before the existence of Judah or the Jews. The transcript contends that Oxford’s notes imply blessings or curses based on support for Israel, and that a nation’s supposed sin for not aiding Israel would invite divine judgment, a claim the speakers label as a form of antisemitism manufactured by Christian Zionism. They argue that the concept of national sin is flawed, and that individuals alone sin, not nations. Historical figures like Philip Morrow and Doctor F. Furman Curley are cited as Orthodox Christian critics who warned against dispensationalism and Christian Zionism. Morrow warned in 1927 that Schofield Bible had usurped authority from Scripture, while Curley in 1983 linked premillennialist advocacy of Israel to wars in the Middle East and urged Christians to seek peace rather than war, criticizing figures like Hal Lindsey and Jerry Falwell. The final note emphasizes that Jesus’ simple New Testament teachings do not support Christians taking life abroad, urging a reconsideration of the doctrine behind Christian Zionism.

Speaker argues that 'you and the Likud party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America.' They reference 'Charlie Kirk's assassination, who was a big mentor of mine' and say 'Evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews.' They note 'So with Charlie's assassination and with the kind of trajectory that we see with, like, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.' They ask 'what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel.' 'What's our backup plan to be strong, like outside of the diaspora?'

I want to address who pro-Zionists are and clarify some common misconceptions. Being pro-Israel isn't about being anti-Jewish, as Jesus himself was Jewish. However, the New Testament indicates that the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people; that title now belongs to the church. True Jews are those who follow the Lord's laws and ethics in their hearts, not just outwardly. In fact, those who reject Jesus are like the sons of Hagar, not of Sarah. There's neither Jew nor Gentile, but Christ, and Christ's kingdom doesn't favor any human government, and we shouldn't prioritize any nation over Christ. When we see children being killed, whether Israeli or Palestinian, it breaks Jesus' heart. We should be pro-Jesus and his kingdom and remember our brothers and sisters in Christ, even Palestinian Christians.

The program marks the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s second election to the presidency, noting that he won a majority of the popular vote and built a coalition broader than any Republican coalition since 1984. The host argues that, in this moment, Republicans face a civil war over what comes after Trump: revert to the pre-Trump GOP or continue evolving into what Trump has steered it toward. The core debate centers on what MAGA means and whether America-first should guide policy, especially in foreign affairs and domestic priorities. America first, according to the host, means the US government should act foremost on behalf of American citizens, considering how policies affect those who pay for and are represented by the government. This message—America first—was described as not only popular but the most popular political message in generations, and it is credited with drawing broad support from Black voters, Latino voters, and other American voters committed to drain-the-swamp, no more pointless wars, and government that represents Americans. On the other side, the host describes a return to the pre-Trump Republican identity: a neoconservative foreign policy paired with libertarian economic policy, a party of Washington think tanks and editorial pages. The host characterizes this old guard as policing its own, seeking silence and expulsion of dissenters, and as being morally compromised by foreign-policy priorities seen as misaligned with American interests. A central claim is that US foreign policy has too often advanced foreign interests—particularly those of Israel—over American interests, citing examples such as the Iraq War; assertions that policy has been immoral, illegitimate, and unsustainable; and the suggestion that dissenting voices are silenced. A focal point of the discussion is Lindsey Graham, portrayed as the living symbol of the old Republican Party. The host describes Graham as affable in person but as representing a policy direction at odds with the Trump era. Graham’s record is summarized as revealing deficits in fiscal responsibility (deficit growth from $5 trillion to $38 trillion over his tenure), a willingness to push for foreign wars, and a pattern of defending or promoting foreign policy agendas that critics say have harmed the United States. The program emphasizes Graham’s role in endorsing and promoting aggressive rhetoric and actions, including his appearances with Zelenskyy, his references to “killing the right people,” and his remarks at a Republican Jewish Coalition event in Las Vegas where he claimed that “we are killing all the right people” and “we’re cutting your taxes.” The host argues these statements reflect a dangerous and violent mindset and a departure from traditional conservative restraint. Clip analyses highlight Graham’s emphasis on Israel and his belief that God commanded particular foreign-policy policies, with assertions such as “God commanded it” and remarks about God’s will guiding policy. The program points to Graham’s frequent travel to Israel (the guest claims Graham said it was his “fifth visit since October 7”) and his portrayal as a staunch defender of Israel, even while critics say this undermines American sovereignty or prioritizes foreign interests. Graham’s statements about “the blood libel,” his defense of Israel, and his call for violence against perceived political enemies are presented as evidence of his misalignment with the values the host associates with America-first conservatism. The discussion frames a broader shift in the Republican Party as a power struggle between the old establishment and a MAGA movement seeking to realign or redefine the party’s priorities. The anonymous or explicit allegation is that Graham has long acted as an agent for deep-state or foreign interests, having supported or aligned with policies that critics say weaken American sovereignty or accountability to American voters. The guest asserts that Graham’s reelection would signal a non-responsive political system and a failure to reflect voters’ concerns, particularly in South Carolina. Against Graham, the program introduces Paul Dans, a candidate running in the Republican primary in June, who frames his campaign as an “outsider” effort to replace what he calls the “establishment” with a movement anchored in God, family, and country. Dans describes himself as an “original MAGA” and as a long-time participant in Trump-era policy development, including serving as the architect of Project 2025, which Dans says helped Trump’s administration by organizing a coalition and providing a platform for policy and personnel ready to implement reforms. Dans emphasizes his immigrant family background, working-class roots, and personal hardships as the driving force behind his commitment to restoring the country. He presents his campaign as an effort to bring accountability to government—particularly with respect to investigations, the Russia hoax, the 2020 election, and COVID-19 handling—and to end endless wars and recalibrate fiscal policy. Dans argues that Graham’s reelection would reflect a political system that does not respond to voters, noting that Graham’s stance has often opposed Trump, including his early opposition to Trump’s nomination and his later criticisms. Dans recounts his own experiences in Georgia during the 2020 election, his engagement with MAGA activists, and the perception that the RNC and campaign leadership sought to “cut bait” on Trump during the Georgia recount. Dans frames his campaign as a test of whether the MAGA movement can sustain itself post-Trump and whether the Republican Party can be realigned toward a policy program centered on American interests, less foreign entanglement, and domestic renewal. The interview also includes rhetoric about the broader political environment: a culture war over identity and censorship, debates about free speech, and concerns about social media platforms shaping political discourse. The host condemns what he sees as censorship and calls for an openness to political discussion, while arguing that the new generation—especially younger voters—are attracted to a program that promises affordable life, rebirth of the American dream, and a return to traditional American values. The show closes with a plug for voting and a call to back the Paul Dans campaign, including a request to visit PaulDans.com, invest in the campaign, and spread the message via social media. It also introduces content about a “new nine-eleven commission” and urges listeners to visit newcommissionnow.com to join a petition, arguing that the original nine-eleven Commission was flawed and that a new commission is needed to force accountability and reveal foreknowledge and other aspects of the events of September 11. Overall, the transcript captures a confrontation within the GOP over the party’s future trajectory post-Trump, the moral and strategic implications of foreign-policy advocacy, and a campaign narrative centered on America-first priorities, faith, family, and a critique of the entrenched political establishment.

I attended a TPUSA faith event expecting politics to be shaped by biblical principles, but the experience did not meet that expectation. The event opened with a speaker who immediately criticized Candace Owens, calling her evil and antisemitic, and stating that what she’s doing is evil. I wanted to leave, but security was intense—armed men were stationed all around the venue, and there was even an armed man on stage with a hand on his gun. The security presence made me uncomfortable. Inside, the speaker talked extensively about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, portraying them as evil and antisemitic. He argued that Christians should support Israel because Jesus was a Jew and Judaism underpins Christianity, while claiming that what Israel is doing is evil and corrupt. He suggested that refusing to support Israel would be anti-Semitic. I disagree with this framing, and it struck me as not aligning with what I expect from biblical politics. I also noted that the speaker referenced Charlie Kirk (though I recall it as Charlie Cook) and suggested that Kirk would not endorse the positions being discussed, referencing Kirk’s and Owens’ friendship and his past critiques of Israel. Throughout, the speaker’s preaching style resembled name-calling rather than traditional preaching. He labeled the political left as “idiots,” “freaks,” and “losers,” and spent much of the time denigrating liberals rather than offering constructive biblical guidance. This approach felt discordant with Christian teachings I associate with Jesus, who, as the speaker himself stated he loves, “ate with sinners,” including prostitutes. I felt the message was spreading hate rather than embodying the inclusive example I expect from Christian doctrine. A major concern was the impact on young attendees. Teenagers and young Christians appeared to be absorbing the message, treating this figure as a leader and a future guide for their faith, which raised alarms about further division within the Christian community. In summary, the event did not teach the biblical political perspectives I anticipated. The emphasis was on discrediting the left and on framing Israel in terms of Jewish loyalty, rather than engaging with broader Christian concerns. The speaker’s approach—name-calling of political opponents, calls for aggressive stances, and a heavy focus on left-wing critique—left me feeling that the session did not align with constructive faith-based political discussion. The speaker also touched on issues like men in women’s sports, but stated this was not the most important topic for Christians to discuss amid broader national concerns.

The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" or pro-Zionist, asserting it stems from a misinterpretation of the Bible and dispensationalism. They claim the New Testament indicates the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people, but rather the church. Using biblical passages, the speaker argues that the kingdom of God was taken from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. They state that believers in Jesus, regardless of ethnicity (Jew or Gentile), are the true seed of Abraham and heirs to the promise. The speaker contends that earthly Jerusalem lost its significance after rejecting Jesus, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem. They equate Zionism with being anti-gospel and anti-Christian. The speaker questions favoring Israeli children over Palestinian children, asserting Jesus loves all equally. They believe those who die in Christ are perfected and united in love in Jesus' presence, transcending earthly divisions.

Israeli leaders encouraged the pastors to be bold and express gratitude for their support. Stand up and be counted. Tell the truth. Speak to young people. Speak up and be counted. I'm counting on you, and I know you'll do what has to be done. That's what our destiny calls for. This is not just Israel's fight. This is a fight for civilization. We are facing very much a civilizational struggle like we saw in the thirties between Nazism and the free world. Today, that Nazism is Islamism in coordination with communism, which today's expression is called woke, but it's the same thing. Behind the scenes, Shira Mills of the Friends of Zion Museum helped make the summit possible. Never been done before. This is something very unique, very difficult, but here we are. From my point of view, it's miraculous. The vision going forward: recruiting 10,000 more pastors in the next thirty six months. Because there's a lot of misinformation out there, a lot of young people that are not for Israel, and they're just getting the wrong information. So our whole idea here is to reach the youth of America and around the world and just show the truth. With a thousand pastors gathered at such a critical moment for the nation of Israel, when antisemitism is rising in our nation and globally, this has been such a pivotal turning point. I believe we can turn the tide of antisemitism. A thousand pastors and leaders that didn't even know each other, and he called and we heard the word of the Lord. And this is a season to see antisemitism defeated and to see God's glory come to his chosen people.

Speaker 0: Participating in the ambassador summit this week, with a thousand pastors crossing the sea to stand with Israel faithfully. Speaker 1: Here for seven days to support Israel, aiming to educate the younger generation on what it means to stand for Israel. Speaker 0: They are not alone; there is a coalition to be a voice for Israel and the nations, an honor, and a call to awaken more courage inside believers worldwide to speak up for Israel; there is a lot to learn and to be present for. Speaker 1: They expect to do this; it is life changing, and they are excited about going back home and taking it back home with them. Speaker 0: To stand here and be an advocate for Israel and for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the midst of this land is truly an honor.

I attended a TPUSA faith event expecting to learn about politics from a biblical perspective, but the experience did not meet those expectations. The speaker began by calling out Candace Owens as evil and antisemitic, stating that “what she's doing is evil,” which made me want to leave immediately. I stayed only because, upon entering, security checked me five times and armed men were stationed in front of me, with one armed man on stage. Inside the church, the speaker spoke repeatedly about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, framing them as evil and antisemitic. He indirectly urged support for Israel by saying “Jesus was a Jew” and that “we wouldn’t have Christianity without Judaism,” among other claims. I disagree with the framing that Christians should support “this evil doing because these people are Jewish,” which I found to be wrong. The speaker also seemed to echo comments about Camille Owens and Charlie Cook, noting that Cook had started to question Israel in the weeks before his passing, and that Camille Owens was his best friend. The preaching itself did not feel like preaching; it was characterized by name-calling and a focus on the left, with terms like “left idiots” and “freaks.” I questioned whether this approach aligned with biblical teaching, recalling that Jesus “ate with sinners” and “prostitutes,” and worried that spreading hate through the stage and by the audience—especially teenagers—was shaping a future generation of Christians toward division. The event left me uneasy about the message being delivered, as it centered on denigrating those with political disagreements rather than focusing on shared faith. The speaker labeled the left as inferior and spent the majority of the time criticizing liberals, rather than addressing important Christian issues. By the end, I felt I hadn’t learned anything substantive. The discussion emphasized partisan conflict and broad generalizations about the left, rather than focusing on constructive biblical or political principles. In addition to the ideological focus, I noted the security environment with armed guards and an armed figure on stage, which contributed to an overall sense of unease. The speaker’s emphasis on opposing the left and on contentious topics like men in women’s sports and bathrooms framed as political talking points, rather than pressing concerns central to Christian discourse.

A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. This contradicts Christian beliefs, as supporting Israel could align with the arrival of the antichrist according to biblical predictions. Jews await their messiah, who they believe will rule the world from Israel, while Christians predict the antichrist will do the same. This creates a paradox in evangelical support for Israel.