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The speaker discusses the spread of bird flu and the potential for mass culling of poultry. They mention the development of bird flu vaccines and the possibility of human-to-human transmission. The conversation also touches on the lack of human trials for vaccines and the FDA's approval process based on preclinical data. The focus is on the need for vaccination, particularly for farm workers.

The speaker, who has been on the farm for three and a half months, aims to connect Canadian and South African farmers to discuss how South Africa avoided culling ostriches despite similar policies and past outbreaks. South Africa now exempts ostriches from culling, unlike Canada, where they're treated as poultry. The speaker believes culling all ostriches won't stop avian flu in chickens and is present to protect the birds. The speaker claims the RCMP are monitoring the farm, and they fear the Canadian Security establishment wants to remove the camp and media coverage to avoid scrutiny of the CFIA's stamping out policy. They state the birds haven't been tested, so there's no proof of infection. The speaker mentions Robert Kennedy has voiced his opposition to the culling. Transporting the birds to the US might offer protection, but the Canadian government and CFIA would likely oppose it. The speaker questions why the CFIA can move supposedly contaminated culled birds to a municipal dump, but not allow testing to prove infection. The speaker asserts the farmer would voluntarily cull infected birds.

There are thousands of pets out there dining out every day. While we sat at this table, five, six pets died in The United States from a rabies vaccine they didn't need. Anybody can walk in here, sit down and say whatever they want, but I gave you silence. I said to the state board, if I had to kill an animal to obey that law, would I have to do They said yes. One rabies vaccine is good for life. All this is unnecessary if that dog had a titer check, it would not need a vaccination. So this is the real problem here. I had put upstairs in the public health department 45 articles that show vaccines are dose dependent. Titers indicate immunity. It's been proven. Okay. But who's the we? Who's the we? The researchers. The researchers. These are the researchers. They're the ones who do the research. Okay. I spent a career the pharmaceutical. And I spent a career being a veterinarian watching the animals die. See. Think that happened before. But I completely don't agree with what you're saying. Do you know of any studies that the vaccine can sometimes create other health concerns for animals? Can you talk a little bit about that? Absolutely. You get tumors at the injection sites. You get autoimmune diseases that start later in life, but you get the immediate reactions. Some dogs die immediately of anaphylaxis. Others get just serum sickness and they vomit. Maybe you hide under the bed for a day or two. But if I lower my dose to protect the animal, then I'm in trouble. So I have to do what the manufacturer says. And like the State Board of Connecticut said, if I have to kill my pet, I have to kill my pet. It's the law. Well, guess what? I have a Hippocratic oath that is greater than any law that's passed in the state of Connecticut that would make me kill my patient. I won't do it.

Katie Persittany discusses British Columbia ostriches: "our almost 400, prehistoric animals that, offer such advantage being alive on our farm are slated to be killed." She notes they may have "antibodies that can help with, COVID nineteen viruses, MRSA, there's different like MRSA, h five n one" and that "They are healthy, and that is the reality right now" and "They have herd immunity." The Canadian government is "looking at the World Health Organization guidelines and the United Nations, and we're going off trading partner policies" and the animals are "slated to be killed even though they are fully healthy and doing amazingly well, dancing in the sunshine, laying eggs." She adds: "we have antibodies for MRSA, SARS-two, the COVID-nineteen, H5N1 we have a stockpile of antibodies that have been offered to the government they will not take." "We can offer nutraceuticals." "start treating livestock. We can also start treating migratory birds." "We want to save those ostriches." "We have one new thing that has happened in the last few days that has got us a little scared, and we got some tipped off that our local landfill up here is right now digging the graveyards for our ostriches." "The United States Of America, the people of The United States are gonna be very, very angry if they try to kill those ostriches."

Bird flu may be a scam to push gain of function research in US labs. CDC confirmed it. The timing seems suspicious before the WHO meeting and elections. Michigan declared a bird flu emergency, leading to mass testing and culling of poultry. This could cause food shortages. However, bird flu can be treated in humans. The Global Vaccine Alliance calls it "disease x," which could create food insecurity and fear before the elections.

There's been people asking about the eggs. So the family has no idea. So these birds probably are laying eggs. What are what is the CFIA doing with the eggs? And unfortunately, the family does not know. They got no way to track this stuff. These guys come in here and and just take over the place. Don't let anybody know what they're doing. They put up all these walls of secrecy to ensure that nobody can see what's going on, and then they wonder why everybody's freaking out. It'd be easy enough for the CFIA to make a statement. It'd be easy enough for the police to make a statement. It'd be easy enough for anybody that knows anything about this to make a statement, but they wanna keep all the public in the in the dark.

The Supreme Court has delayed a planned execution of nearly 400 ostriches in British Columbia after an avian flu outbreak. In a briefing about the case, ostrich farmer Elwood Coburn discussed the situation and his birds, including Bessie. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency says the ostriches need to be destroyed, and they allege that Coburn hasn’t been taking good care of the birds. Coburn responded, “How dare they? What’s this country coming to if a man can’t keep to himself and raise 400 ostriches?” He added that he wouldn’t stand by with his head in the sand to see if IA has these birds worried sick, referencing the agency’s concerns. He also noted Thanksgiving was recently and claimed the ostriches were upset, barely touching their turkey. The discussion touched on national attention, with some famous American politicians getting involved. Robert Kennedy Jr. has asked for the birds to be studied, not killed. Dr. Oz offered to re home the birds on his Florida ranch. The exchange included light remarks about Florida and the politicians’ interventions, but the central issue remained the government’s plan to destroy the birds. The court order states that since the outbreak began, some 70 ostriches have died, and didn’t another ostrich die just last week? Coburn asserted that there are 399 healthy ostriches remaining, saying, “we still have three ninety nine healthy ostriches.” He elaborated, “That’s three ninety eight birds who have nothing wrong with them. There’s three ninety seven birds with a right to live.” He warned that if the government has their way, there won’t be three ninety six birds left. He insisted, “They wanna kill all 395 birds while I plan to save all 394 of them.” The scene conveyed Coburn’s determination to protect as many birds as possible amid the outbreak and the regulatory pressure to cull the flock. In summary, the case centers on a delayed execution of hundreds of ostriches due to avian flu, with the CFIA advocating destruction and Coburn arguing for the preservation of the majority of his flock. Political figures have weighed in on whether the birds should be studied or rehomed, while the outbreak has already claimed some birds, prompting a contentious debate over the fate of the rest.

"The world is watching, and this is one of the babies. Who is it? Carrie. I got Carrie here. I mean, they have an obligation in a civil society." "Right? We don't suffer. It's in humane once again. Absolutely." "And the reason for her injury is because of the drones flying around and distressing the noise." "Injured before the drones. She was injured during those two helicopters, broke all the rules, flying over here in the dark with articulated searchlights. That's when they started running." "They went through the fences. Not the fence." "We don't even know if any of them got out that day." "What was her signs of dehydration? Very dehydrated. Skin tender. While she's drinking." "I've been appointed as the farm vet. And so are you guys. Sorry for that."

There's a hen in there that is suffering She's dehydrated. They will not allow any of us to treat her, to tube her and give her electrolytes. Their people will only do it and they're not doing it right. They've never done it. So this hen is suffering and it's a major problem. The communication between we have an interim stay and to be able not be able to have any right and handle our animals is absolutely absolutely insane. and, let's talk about that these animals, it's not their fault. It's not anybody's fault and we definitely shouldn't be being punished, but these animals are being punished. We're being punished and, we have some hay coming in, getting police escorted in right now. Again, your taxpayer dollars hard at work.

"They've obviously developed some type of natural immunity because they're not clinically sick." "The worry is the virus can mutate, become even more pathogenic, cause much more disease." "Their solution? Just kill them all, wipe it out." "But it's now in the wild bird population." "How is it that you know we can wipe out all these big healthy birds on a farm and somehow think we're going to control that disease?" "Destroy the birds, you destroy the science." "Cruelty to animals, it violates the criminal code of Canada." "Couldn't the ostriches just been quarantined where they are, it's a very isolated spot, repeatedly tested for the avian flu?" "Why can there not be some type of flexibility?" "Risk science it's here. Too bad all your birds are gonna die." "In my opinion, yeah there really could have been and should have been and should be."

The transmission of avian bird flu from animals to humans is rare. We should allow farms with chickens and cows to develop natural immunity, as they are constantly being reinfected by migratory mallard ducks and waterfowl. The practice of culling is not effective.

Birds don't get flu. Birds do not get influenza. Birds can get sick, but they haven't got flu, and it's not contagious. So, the PCR test is a measure of nothing. It's fraud. So and they could make the birds sick in any number of ways just by treating them badly. If they overcrowd them, that will make them sick. If they stress them, that will make them sick. And if they then come in and test them, they can claim bird flu in the flock, then they can kill all the birds, and then they can say, oh, look. Bird flu is going around. It doesn't even exist because like I told you, birds don't get colds. Birds don't sneeze. Have you ever seen a bird coughing? And I wouldn't think monkeys get pox either. Really. They're hairy.

Scientists are largely against culling flocks, suggesting instead that flocks should be isolated and therapeutics tested. They propose allowing the disease to run its course to identify birds with a genetic inclination for immunity, which should then be bred, similar to wild populations. The White House strategy is to repopulate farms that have been depopulated. 66 million chickens have been killed, which is why there is an egg crisis.

They told us to burn it in 7 days or face criminal charges. They arrived, threw raspberries in my face, and mistreated my staff. The boxes had no disease, but we had to burn them because of competitors with minimal training. This is the situation in New Zealand under the biosecurity act.

Pets have died in the US from unnecessary rabies vaccines. The speaker questions the need for these vaccines, suggesting that a tire check would indicate immunity. They mention having provided articles to the public health department that support the idea that vaccines are dose dependent. Another speaker, who has a background in the pharmaceutical industry, disagrees. The first speaker explains that vaccines can cause tumors, immune diseases, and immediate reactions in animals. They express their refusal to follow a law that would require them to harm their patients.

Sheila Gunn Reed reports she's headed to Edgewood BC to Universal Ostrich Farm to assist Drea Humphrey, as the Canadian Food Inspection Agency is set to impose a call on 400 healthy ostriches because the birds were exposed to avian flu two hundred and fifty days ago. The birds are healthy; Canadian Food Inspection Agency refuses to test them to ensure they are healthy or sick before they kill them. And the worst part is that these are not birds fit for human consumption. They’re not birds meant for cowboy boots. These are birds used in research for diseases like avian flu and COVID nineteen. RCMP descended on the farm this morning; Drea has been sleeping on the ground in tent. I’ll swing through Calgary to pick up Starlink. If this call happens, it’s a dark day for property rights, for Canadian agriculture, for science. To help, go to savetheostriches.com.

You are expecting what the outcome is. I will. What what was need to put CFIA exactly where they need to be put in check. This organization feels that they are greater than the Supreme Court of Canada, that they are still positioning the birds and putting them in the position to be killed immediately. The Supreme Court has not decided what is happening, we are on a stay order. and yet they, I just get a phone call that they've got a whole bunch of birds herded in a little circle right in the kill pen waiting. This is, it's animal cruelty, it's anguish to the families, this is terrorism and this is such disrespect to our Canadian government of justice that this company thinks they're better than the Supreme Court of Canada now. Amen.

I am Don Shepherd, VP of Infectious Diseases and Vaccination Programs. We are discussing testing for H5N1. There are questions about which populations to test, what methods to use, and whether to use molecular or serosurveillance techniques. There are challenges in validating assays due to limited serum samples. In the US, testing on dairy and beef cattle has been negative. Plans include testing asymptomatic cows and commercial milk samples. Wastewater testing is considered, but distinguishing between avian and bovine strains is difficult. We need to be prepared for positive results before deciding on implementation.

Idaho is experiencing changes with bird flu outbreaks affecting poultry farms. The PCR test is being used, but its reliability is questionable. Hendricks Poultry in Iona County announced 400 layoffs and plans to cull 6.5 million poultry. Nationwide, 91 million poultry are affected in 48 states, with avian flu outbreaks in cattle reported in 9 states. The food system is being targeted, and homesteaders are at risk. Control over the food supply is the goal, using fear to manipulate the situation.

Someone states they are passionate after 34 years of caring for animals that live to 75 and have names. They ask that "Connor," "Ethan," and "Lulu" not be shot. They acknowledge there's a policy in place, but argue it's time for a change, suggesting a report indicating every bird looks healthy. Another person responds that going against the entire industry is not their decision, and that changing to a non-eradication approach requires a national conversation with the CFIA and the Canadian government. When asked how long it would take for an ostrich to die from sickness, the response is hours to days, depending on the disease. Someone counters that there have been no avian flu deaths on the farm in eight days. Another person states that the challenge is control versus eradication, because one diagnosis puts the entire population at risk, mandating destruction.

The speaker describes ongoing resistance to “their science” and the continuing conflict surrounding the issue. He states the birds are hurting each other and, right now, are on the verge of killing themselves, smashing into posts and fences, and are bloody terrified. He cites the Animal Health and Safety Act, saying its purpose is to protect the welfare of these birds in the process until they are called. He also reiterates basic care requirements, noting that the birds must be fed, watered, and cared for. The message emphasizes welfare obligations for the birds during the process amid disagreement about the science.

Vaccinating birds with a leaky vaccine, one that doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, turns the flocks into mutation factories, teaching the organism how to mutate. This destabilizes the organism and makes it more likely to jump to animals. The speaker claims that all agency heads from NIH, CDC, and FDA advised against bird vaccination because it is dangerous for human beings.

The avian flu outbreaks with what's called the stamping out policy or mandatory depopulation of flocks that have been infected. So this is really both scientifically and legally, I think, the right thing to do to reduce the risk, as as much as we can. A spokesperson for the farm said these birds have been healthy for, you know, more than two hundred days, that they're probably building immunity to avian flu, and therefore, not only should they not be culled, but we should actually be preserving these ostriches. When you hear that, what's your reaction? "Well, my reaction to that is that it's not really accurate." In ostriches, disease severity is based on how old the birds are, and these are all older birds. Older birds tend to not get very sick when they are infected with avian flu. So you can't really tell if the ostriches are sick just by looking at them. You also can't make the assumption that they're going to develop protective immunity against a reinfection because often these older ostriches that don't get very sick don't develop antibodies against the virus. So we actually don't really know if these birds do have protective immunity, if they had been infected before. We just have to assume that they could have been infected and they may still be infected. Alright. Well, with all the claims that are out there, it's

Somebody said you've opened my eyes to a lot. Our dog continues to struggle since the vet gave her two shots. This is the problem: all of those vets, unfortunately, that's just they that's why they give these animals shots. They're just giving them shots so that they can stay in business. They poison your dog as a puppy or as a kitten, whatever it may be, so that they can stay in business. So what you need to do is need to fire the the vet that you're going to if they're pushing shots onto any of your animals and find yourself a holistic vet or just fire them altogether because all your animal needs is raw meat and raw dairy. That's pretty much it. Because think of animals. When they're out in the wild, that's pretty much all they're eating. They're not cooking anything up. They're not eating kibble. They're not eating, you know, processed foods. They're literally just out there hunting, and they don't definitely don't have a fire to cook up their meals before they eat them. But the whole thing into that, when you get in into the shots, you know, the book, the poison needle, just a phenomenal one so people can be aware of that.

If we ignore the problem of felons in the US, we'll face more issues like H5N2 bird flu. The alleged H5N, avian influenza, is available for sale on the BEI Resources website since 2016. The concern lies in gain of function research in labs, where the recipe to make bird flu highly infectious for humans is already known.