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Трамп не понимает природу украинского кризиса и не знает русской истории. Его взгляд на события после развала Советского Союза слишком упрощённый. Он считает, что может быстро закончить войну, но это невозможно. Первые переговоры между Путиным и Трампом будут критически важны, чтобы донести, что мы не прекратим военные действия без освобождения Украины от нацистского режима и полной демилитаризации. Это не просто лозунги, а наши жизненные интересы. Некоторые сторонники Трампа понимают нашу позицию и склонны поддерживать её, но есть и те, кто заинтересован в продолжении войны. Ситуация сложная, и не стоит надеяться на быстрое разрешение конфликта. --- Trump does not understand the nature of the Ukrainian crisis and lacks knowledge of Russian history. His view of events after the Soviet Union's collapse is overly simplistic. He believes he can quickly end the war, but this is impossible. Initial negotiations between Putin and Trump will be crucial to convey that we will not cease military actions without liberating Ukraine from the Nazi regime and complete demilitarization. These are not just slogans, but our vital interests. Some of Trump's supporters understand our position and are inclined to support it, but others benefit from the continuation of the war. The situation is complex, and one should not expect a quick resolution to the conflict.

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I was part of the Ukrainian negotiators trying to reach a peaceful settlement with Russia. We were close to finalizing an agreement in April, but it was postponed. In my opinion, Putin realized his mistake and quickly tried to make a deal with Ukraine. He personally accepted the Istanbul communique, which was a compromise compared to Russia's initial ultimatum proposal. It's important to remember that Putin genuinely wanted a peaceful resolution with Ukraine.

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America's strength lies in diplomacy, which we are pursuing with the current president. Russia occupied parts of Ukraine back in 2014, and despite numerous conversations and ceasefire agreements, they continued attacks. My administration is trying to prevent the destruction of your country. Everyone faces challenges during war, but you need to appreciate the support you're receiving. We've provided substantial financial and military aid. If you had to fight this war on your own, it would have been over in two weeks. Be thankful. It's important for the American people to see what's happening. Without our support, you don't have a chance. We gave you javelins, not just sheets. I have empowered you, but without us, you're vulnerable. Make a deal, or we're out. You're not acting thankful at all.

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It's an honor to have President Zelenskyy of Ukraine here. We've been working closely together for a long time, and we've negotiated a fair deal that will benefit both our countries and the world. I've also had good discussions with President Putin, and we're trying to bring the conflict in Ukraine to a close. Too many soldiers are dying, and we want to see the money used for rebuilding instead. The previous administration didn't engage with Russia, but I believe if I were president, this war would have never happened. We're providing great equipment to Ukraine, and their soldiers have been incredibly brave. We're going to sign an agreement soon, and I think we're close to a deal to stop the shooting. It's an exciting moment, and I appreciate everyone being here.

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It's an honor to have President Zelenskyy here. We've been working closely together, even navigating a few disagreements to reach a fair deal that benefits both our countries and the world. We're looking forward to working together on rare earth resources. I've also had good discussions with President Putin, aiming to end the war. We're losing too many soldiers and want to redirect resources to rebuilding. The previous administration didn't engage with Russia, but I believe I can negotiate a deal, showcasing the bravery of Ukrainian soldiers. I hope this agreement will be a crucial step toward security guarantees for Ukraine. We count on continued American support, and I want to discuss details further, including drone production, air defense, and the return of stolen Ukrainian children. We must stop Putin, a killer and terrorist, to save our country, values, freedom, and democracy.

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The speaker discusses the collapse of the Soviet Union and the expectations of Russian leadership regarding cooperation with the West. They highlight the broken promises of NATO expansion and the negative response from the West towards Russia. The speaker also mentions the events leading up to the conflict in Ukraine, including the coup and the failure to implement the Minsk agreements. They express their willingness to resolve the conflict peacefully but emphasize the need to protect Russian interests and the people of Donbas.

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In 2022, during the last contact with the previous administration, I tried to convince my former American colleague that the situation should not be brought to the point of no return regarding hostilities, and to accept it back then. That's a big mistake. Today, Trump says that if he was the president back then, there would be no war, and I am quite sure that it would indeed be so. I can confirm that. I believe that me and President Trump have built a very good, business-like and trustworthy contact, and I have every reason to believe that moving down this path, we can reach the end of the conflict sooner.

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It’s an honor to have President Zelenskyy of Ukraine here. We've been working closely together for a long time and have negotiated a fair deal to obtain rare earth minerals that we need for AI, weapons, and our military. I've also had good discussions with President Putin to try and bring the war to a close. If I were president, this war would have never happened. We've given Ukraine great equipment and credit to their brave soldiers. We're going to sign the agreement shortly, and I think we're fairly close to a deal to stop the shooting. I hope this document will be the first step to real security guarantees for Ukraine. We count on America's continued support, including licenses for air defense and your strong position to stop Putin.

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I signed deals with leaders like Macron and Merkel, including ceasefire agreements and gas contracts, but these were broken, and prisoner exchanges didn't happen. What kind of diplomacy are we even talking about here? With all due respect, it's disrespectful to come here and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of my country. Everyone has problems during war, but you'll feel it in the future. We've been alone since the beginning, but we are thankful for the help. You gave us military equipment; without it, the war would've been over quickly. I've said thank you many times, and we want to stop the war, but you need to ask our people about a ceasefire. Obama gave us sheets; you gave us javelins. Be more thankful; without you, we don't have any cards.

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"Почему встреча президента? Потому что в будущем." "Так сначала должна была быть встреча делегации. Они готовили рамочное соглашение, после этого должна была быть встреча президента." "Открылась Буча. Открылась Буча, и президент сказал: Я вообще выхожу из переговоров." "Когда мы вернулись из Стамбула, приехал Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал, что мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать." Why the president's meeting? Because of the future. Thus first there should have been a delegation meeting. They were preparing a framework agreement, after which there should have been a meeting with the President. Bucha opened. Bucha opened, and the president said: I am quitting the negotiations. When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them, and let's just fight.

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It's an honor to have President Zelenskyy here; we've worked closely together for a long time. We've reached a fair deal, giving the U.S. access to rare earth elements and we've had good discussions with Russia to bring the war to a close. President Putin and I are working towards a deal to stop the soldier deaths and rebuild Ukraine. The Biden administration didn't engage with Russia, but if I were president, this war never would have happened. Ukraine's soldiers have been brave, and it's time to end this. We'll sign an agreement soon, aiming for a deal to stop the shooting. I hope that it is a first step to real security guarantees for Ukraine and our people, our children. I hope that America continues to support our freedom, our values, and democracy. I want to stop Putin; he's a killer and terrorist. We spoke about drones and air defense because after the war, we need to know that our nation is secure and we have an air shield.

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It's an honor to have President Zelenskyy. We've been working closely together for a long time and have a very fair deal. We're committed to working with Ukraine, and we've had good discussions with Russia. We want to stop the killing and rebuild. The Biden administration didn't speak to Russia, but if I were president, this war would have never happened. Your soldiers have been unbelievably brave, and we've given them great equipment. I give tremendous credit to your generals, soldiers, and yourself. We want to get this over with. We're going to sign the agreement soon and discuss other things. The exciting moment is when the shooting stops and we have a deal, and I think we're fairly close.

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Dear friends, I want to draw your attention to the fact that there were negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, led by the same president, in Turkey. These negotiations aimed to establish trust and peace. However, we did not agree with Ukraine on the nature of the treaty, which was called the Treaty on Permanent Security Guarantees for Ukraine. It consisted of 18 articles and included details about armed forces and weaponry. The Kiev delegation signed this document, but the Kiev authorities discarded it after we withdrew our troops. They treated it as history and disregarded its importance.

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Russia occupied parts of Ukraine starting in 2014, and despite conversations and agreements, nothing stopped them. We signed ceasefire deals with Macron and Merkel, but Russia broke them, killing our people and not exchanging prisoners. I question what kind of diplomacy is being discussed when our country faces destruction. Everyone faces problems during war, but it seems like some don't fully grasp the situation. From the beginning, we've been strong and thankful, even when alone. However, we are told that we're not winning and should be more appreciative of the aid we've received. We want to stop the war, and if a ceasefire could be reached with guarantees, it would save lives.

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So, back in 2014, Russia occupied parts of Ukraine, and nobody stopped them. From 2014 to 2022, people kept dying, despite our conversations and signed ceasefire deals with Macron and Merkel. Russia broke the ceasefire, killed our people, and didn't exchange prisoners. What kind of diplomacy is that? It's disrespectful to come here and complain when the US is trying to prevent the destruction of Ukraine. You're drafting conscripts because of manpower issues. Be thankful for our help. Everyone has problems during war. We're staying strong in our country. From the start, we've been alone, but we are thankful. We want to stop the war, but we need guarantees for any ceasefire. Don't ask about ceasefires, ask about our people.

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I see the hatred for Putin, making a deal tough. I want peace and am aligned with the world. I can be tough, but deals require more than that. Previous chest-thumping didn't work, diplomacy is needed. Trump's engaging in diplomacy. Russia occupied parts of Ukraine, nobody stopped them. Ceasefires were signed but broken, prisoners weren't exchanged. What kind of diplomacy are we even talking about? I'm trying to end the destruction of your country, but don't come here and start a fight. You're forcing conscripts to the front lines. Be thankful I'm trying to resolve this conflict. You should be appreciating the country that's backing you far more than a lot of people said they should have, and has given you billions of dollars in military equipment. Be thankful. You don't have the cards. If we get a ceasefire, you'd want to take it.

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Вопрос о возможной встрече с президентом США Трампом и украинском урегулировании остается актуальным. Россия не отказывалась от контактов с США, хотя предыдущая администрация их избегала. Трамп и я имели деловые, доверительные отношения. Если бы он был президентом в 2020 году, возможно, кризиса в Украине удалось бы избежать. Однако его администрация также вводила санкции против России, что не способствовало интересам обеих стран. Мы открыты к переговорам по украинской проблематике, но действующий запрет на переговоры со стороны Киева создает препятствия. Существуют точки соприкосновения между нашими странами в вопросах стратегической стабильности и экономики. Мы готовы к диалогу, но это зависит от выбора американской администрации. --- The question of a possible meeting with President Trump and the Ukrainian settlement remains relevant. Russia has not refused contacts with the US, although the previous administration avoided them. Trump and I had business, trusting relations. If he had been president in 2020, the crisis in Ukraine might have been avoided. However, his administration also imposed sanctions on Russia, which did not serve the interests of both countries. We are open to negotiations on the Ukrainian issue, but the current ban on negotiations from Kyiv creates obstacles. There are points of convergence between our countries on strategic stability and economic issues. We are ready for dialogue, but this depends on the choice of the American administration.

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Russia occupied parts of Ukraine, including Crimea, starting in 2014. During the Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations, no one stopped him as people died on the contact line. In 2019, I signed a ceasefire deal with Macron, Merkel, and him, but he broke it, killing people and not exchanging prisoners. We need diplomacy to end the destruction of Ukraine. We have problems during the war, like everyone else. We are staying strong and thankful for the support, but we are not winning. You have given us billions of dollars in military equipment. I have said thank you many times to the American people. We want to stop the war, but we want a ceasefire with guarantees. Ask our people about a ceasefire. Obama gave us sheets, but Trump gave us javelins. Without your support, we have no cards.

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He broke agreements and killed our people, refusing prisoner exchanges. What diplomacy is that? We're trying to prevent your country's destruction. Have you even been to Ukraine to understand our problems? During war, everyone faces issues. Don't dictate what we'll feel. We'll be strong. You're gambling with lives and risking World War III, showing disrespect to the country that has supported you. Have you even said thank you? You campaigned against us. Do you think speaking loudly changes things? You're not winning. We've given you billions in aid and military equipment. Without our help, the war would have ended quickly. Just say thank you, accept disagreements, and discuss them instead of fighting in the media when you're wrong. It's important for Americans to see this. You're running low on soldiers, and you should want a ceasefire to stop the bloodshed.

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I'm aligned with the US and the world, and I want to end this conflict. It's hard to make a deal with so much hatred. I could be tough, but that won't get us anywhere. For four years, tough talk didn't stop Putin. Diplomacy is the path to peace. Others didn't stop Putin from occupying parts of Ukraine since 2014. We signed ceasefire and gas contracts, but he broke them, killing people and not exchanging prisoners. I am trying to end the destruction of your country. Everyone has problems during war, even you. You've allowed yourself to be in a bad position. You're gambling with lives and World War III, and that's disrespectful to the US. You haven't said thank you, and campaigned against us. Your country is in trouble and not winning. If we are out, you will be fighting on your own.

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I'm thankful to the American people, President Trump, and Congress for the support you've given us these last three years. We are strategic partners, and we need to be honest with each other to stop Putin. I respect President Trump's desire to end this war, but no one wants it more than we do. We need him and our European partners to pressure Putin. I respect President Trump and the American people, and I don't believe we've done anything wrong. We need to openly discuss Ukraine's position. We are ready to sign the minerals deal as a first step towards security guarantees, but it’s not enough. I wanted to share my thoughts with the President because this is sensitive for our people, who want to know America is on our side. I want a just and lasting peace with security guarantees.

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I'm grateful for the ongoing American support during these tough times, especially from President Trump and Congress. We need to be united against Putin and end this war. I respect President Trump and the American people, and I believe open dialogue is crucial. Signing the minerals deal is a step towards security guarantees, but it's not enough. I wanted to share my thoughts with the President. A public spat isn't good for anyone. We want peace, but it must be just and lasting, with strong negotiation power, a strong army, and security guarantees. I came to the US seeking peace and security guarantees. It will be difficult to hold off Russia without continued US support. I am ready for diplomacy with Russians, Europeans and the United States for peace. Only the Ukrainian people can decide my resignation.

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In 2014, three foreign ministers from Poland, Germany, and France arrived in Ukraine to sign an agreement between the government and the opposition. However, just two days later, a coup d'etat took place, orchestrated by our American allies. The European guarantors of the agreement claimed ignorance. This event, along with the desire to bring Ukraine into NATO, has led to the ongoing tragedy in the Donbas region.

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Volodymyr Zelensky and I share a special friendship. I admire his leadership, resilience, and vision for Europe. We had strong moments before and during the war, and I suggested exfiltrating him to protect Ukraine's democracy from Russia. In February 2022, I was struck by his determination, but he firmly told me to focus on European support and standing up for our shared values. I believe in his sincerity.

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Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom | Lex Fridman Podcast #456
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Lex Fridman and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy discussed the ongoing war in Ukraine, emphasizing the importance of international support and the fight against misinformation. Zelenskyy expressed hope for peace and mentioned that President Trump could be a significant figure in future negotiations. He highlighted that Ukraine has primarily received weapons rather than financial aid and stressed the need for transparency to combat perceptions of corruption. Zelenskyy firmly rejected the notion that Ukraine was profiting from the war, stating that any instances of corruption would be dealt with harshly. He emphasized the importance of trust and the detrimental effects of misinformation on public support. The conversation touched on the complexities of language during wartime, with Zelenskyy noting the symbolic significance of the Ukrainian language in the fight for independence. The discussion also covered the historical context of Ukraine's relationship with Russia, including past attempts at peace negotiations that have failed. Zelenskyy articulated the need for strong security guarantees for Ukraine, particularly in light of past agreements that have not been honored. He expressed skepticism about Putin's willingness to negotiate genuinely and stressed the importance of a strong Ukrainian position in any future talks. Zelenskyy shared personal anecdotes about his family and the impact of the war on his role as president. He discussed the challenges of maintaining democracy during wartime, including the suspension of elections due to martial law. He indicated that elections would be held after the war, emphasizing the need for a stable and secure environment for democratic processes. The conversation concluded with Zelenskyy expressing optimism about Ukraine's future, focusing on digitalization and economic reforms as key areas for growth post-war. He reiterated the importance of international partnerships and the need for Ukraine to remain aligned with European values. Throughout the discussion, Zelenskyy demonstrated a commitment to fighting for Ukraine's sovereignty and the well-being of its people, while also recognizing the complexities of the geopolitical landscape.
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