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Speaker 0 argues that telling patients to “Just eat less, move more” asks them to control their biology and hold their breath, which is not possible, and that this approach isn’t used for any other disease. Speaker 1 states that the American Medical Association says obesity is a disease, a treatable disease. The transformative news, she says, is that if it’s a disease, “It’s not my fault. It’s not my fault. It’s not my fault, Jane.” She expresses that she could weep for the days and nights she journaled about this being her fault and asking why she can’t conquer it.

The transcript argues that fears about parasites being contagious are misinformation. It states that “parasites are made by your body,” and claims they function as an indicator of heavy metal pollution, with the body supposedly producing parasites to eat toxins and help keep a person alive. It asserts that exposure to pesticides, toxins, and plastics in the body leads to this defense mechanism. The speaker rejects the idea that parasites can jump from water and spread contagiously, saying there is no contagion and that what a person does to their body results in defense mechanisms. The transcript then criticizes the use of ivermectin and fenbend, claiming they are linked to liver failure and infertility, and says taking them “destroys their body.” For those worried about metals, the transcript recommends wormwood, dragon’s blood, chlorella, borax, or cilantro as “great at detoxing metals,” and says there are no parasites that will “jump and come and get you” through water or enter the body. The speaker also compares these beliefs to concerns about raw meat. They say they have been eating raw meat for almost two years, expected to have parasites, and claims there are “no problems at all,” concluding that the remaining concern is fear used to control people’s minds and keep them fearful of everything. The transcript frames this as a broader control mechanism and says the topic is being covered for that reason.

Speaker 0 says that when something sounds absolutely ridiculous, it can be a sign of an educated mind: take something you don’t believe, examine it for yourself, and decide. They give an example, saying that if someone thinks they are living in Colorado right now and believes it’s a good idea to eat pineapple coconut on November 15, then Speaker 0 is “not your cup of tea.” Speaker 1 responds that they are interested in foraging in the winter and that they do keto in winter time. Speaker 0 advises following a wolf or a fox and watching what they do, saying they will eat other animals. Speaker 0 connects this to dietary ideas by stating that the animals are “deuterium depleted” and that this is something to “do.” Speaker 0 then discusses diet crazes, saying the carnivore diet works for “where you are right now,” but implying that it changes by season and altitude—specifically referencing June 21 and being at 8,500 feet. They say altitude helps get vitamin D and claim that high latitude gives an advantage compared to “some of your other patients.” Speaker 0 also says there are many things to learn and that they didn’t get into “those weeds.” Speaker 0 states the bottom line they want people to know: biology is about the organism and the physics of organisms. They say this point “kills people” when told, because most people don’t know enough about physics. They promise that the audience doesn’t have to know as much physics as Speaker 0 learned, because Speaker 0 can teach it without “fancy schmancy” explanations. They claim they can help by teaching people to eat “like a great white shark,” after which the person would be “like the Sphinx.” Speaker 0 concludes that if someone cannot remember that, there is “no way” Speaker 0 can help.

The speaker discusses GLP-1 hormones and GLP-1 drugs, naming Ozempic and its sister drug Wegovy, made by Novo Nordisk in Denmark. The speaker says Novo Nordisk has made “two point two one trillion dollars” on Ozempic and Wegovy and that America buys “ninety percent of it,” attributing this to being “the most overweight.” The speaker claims that “there’s no GLP-1 anything in Ozempic or Wegovy,” and says the only substance inside is “Exendin-4” (spelled “E X E N D I N dash four”). The speaker states that Exendin-4 is a protein isolated from the venom of a Gila monster lizard living in the southwestern United States deserts, and that venom protein research on the Gila monster began in 1956, referencing a medical textbook titled “Venoms” from 1956. The speaker says the Gila monster venom protein paralyzes the vagal nerve and “paralyz[es] the stomach sphincter” that empties food into the intestines. The speaker claims this makes people “not be hungry for hours” because food “isn’t going into your intestines to be broken down,” and therefore isn’t turned into fecal matter and nutrients for absorption into the bloodstream. The speaker further claims that because people self-inject Ozempic or Wegovy once a week for the rest of their lives, Exendin-4 circulates through the bloodstream and “touch[es]” L-cells, which release GLP-1 hormone. The speaker claims that the toxicity of Gila monster venom has been discussed in media as being “as toxic and deadly as” western diamondback rattlesnake venom, and asserts that millions of Americans are injecting it. The speaker also says Exendin-4 has an FDA “black box warning” stating that self-injecting for twelve to thirty-six months “trip[les] your risk of developing thyroid cancer,” specifically “medullary thyroid cancers,” and that “there are multiple of them.” The speaker says oncologists reported not seeing thyroid cancers “exploding” in Ozempic and Wegovy users, but instead reported “explosions of breast cancer diagnosis” within a year or two after starting. The speaker also claims Exendin-4 is published to cause “nerve growth factor and epidermal growth factor,” described as cancer-related terms for tumor growth in the brain and organs. The speaker further claims that “one in five” will develop “diabetic ret-retinopathy,” causing permanent blindness, and references a People magazine article titled “People on Ozempic are now reporting eye rotting disease.” The speaker says venom “destroys human tissue” and calls Ozempic and Wegovy “venom,” not a cure. The speaker asks people who are losing weight whether they believe they were overweight, diabetic, and had heart disease due to “Hela monster venom deficient,” and asks why they would inject it if they do not believe that. The speaker says medical doctors are unaware of this and describes sending research and mainstream articles; the speaker claims doctors responded in unison that they would not prescribe it again and that they would tell their patients to stop.

Speaker 0 describes almonds being changed in America from bitter to sweet to remove B17, which is contained in bitter seeds. They say bitter seeds like apricot seeds, cherry seeds, and apple seeds contain B17, and claim the original almonds used to be bitter but were replaced with sweet almonds so people don’t get B17 anymore. Speaker 1 says they posted a video about The World Without Cancer, The Story of B17, which discusses apricot seeds, and notes that people commented that cyanide will get them. They question who told people about cyanide, saying it was the FDA, the same people who want to vaccinate. They then mention the Hunzas eat 100 to 200 apricot seeds a day and that their diet is mostly apricot seeds. They argue that discussions about illness and danger from nature are a way to scare people away from nature.

- The speaker describes "a lab work of someone eating red meat, real butter, steak, rib eye, the whole entire full fat dairy. Full fat dairy. The yolk and everything. I'm eating it. Explain yourself." - They add, "I'm sorry. But whenever Cheerios are on the cardiac friendly diet and you're backing that, respectfully, don't talk to me."

The speaker asserts that preservatives are toxic to the body and rejects putting any preservatives into it, stating that if what you’re consuming is not three ingredients or less (basically food), you should not put it into your body. They argue that common additives like citric acid, maltodextrin, vegetable glycerin, and soy lecithin should be avoided, describing each as problematic. Key claims include: - Citric acid is a toxic mold sprayed with aluminum, and it was created by Pfizer, so people are aware and should avoid it in supplements, food, cleaning products, and shampoos. - Maltodextrin is derived from corn that has been sprayed with pesticides and is a cheap filler. - Vegetable glycerin could come from canola, soy, or corn, and you have no idea; solvents and chemicals are used in its production. - Soy lecithin is another cheap filler used in vitamins, supplements, and foods and it causes bloating. - Xanthex gum (Xantham gum) is another additive mentioned. The speaker emphasizes keeping intake simple: if you’re eating, stick to the simplest things—meat, dairy, honey, fruit, vegetables, nuts, and superfoods. They claim all of these are single-ingredient foods. If you want to add flavor, you can use some spices, but there isn’t much needed beyond that. They criticize highly processed products, suggesting that items like cookies with many ingredients are “garbage” that will pollute the body. The speaker contends that dietary issues people encounter are often attributed to genetics, but in their view, the root cause is having “poisoned” the body with processed foods. The conclusion presented is that avoiding processed additives and focusing on simple, whole foods will lead to better gut health, whereas consuming processed, multi-ingredient products will lead to negative outcomes. The speaker closes with a blunt affirmation: “It’s great.”

The speaker apologizes on behalf of the medical community, stating that people were misled to believe salt caused health problems when sugar was the actual culprit. While reducing salt intake can lower blood pressure, its effect is weak. The speaker advises patients to cut carbohydrates and sugar while increasing fat and salt intake. This approach lowers insulin, which in turn lowers blood pressure more effectively than cutting salt. Lowering blood sugar reduces excess in circulation, aiding blood pressure reduction. Low-salt diets increase insulin resistance and trigger aldosterone, a hormone that retains sodium, raising the risk of heart disease and cancer, and keeping blood pressure high. The speaker emphasizes that salt is essential and should not be demonized.

The speaker states they will never consult a doctor about general health again, believing doctors are ignorant and only prescribe medication. They claim doctors don't understand human biology and only focus on prescribing medicine for every ailment, leading to multiple medications with numerous side effects. The speaker reports being previously prescribed medication for thyroid issues, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure. They are now on no medication, and their blood work is better than ever. The speaker feels significantly improved and believes they saved their own life.

The trainer was a vegetarian and suggested doing the vegan thing to get residents “all healthy.” The speaker tried it next, hiring vegan nutritionists who provided ingredient lists requiring the speaker to run around town finding unusual spices and vegetables. The speaker said they did not have time for that while running four homes, handling filling homes and dealing with inspections. About a month to two months into the vegan diet, residents began rebelling, refusing meals such as salad for breakfast and asking for eggs, bacon, and cereal. The speaker reported not seeing real improvements, saying either residents weren’t eating and losing weight or what they were eating wasn’t doing much for them. The speaker then fired the nutritionist.

Speaker 0 explains that when we sleep, our body goes on a fast, and when we wake up, we break the fast with breakfast. Speaker 1 expresses concern about telling people to start fasting without consulting a doctor. Speaker 0 dismisses this, comparing it to not consulting a doctor before doing drugs or alcohol. They mention that they never consulted a doctor before engaging in activities that harmed their body. The transcript ends abruptly with someone asking a question.

The discussion covers apricots and the “counter” to claims about the seeds. It notes that people are told not to eat the inside of the seed, referencing a “cyanide scare” in which “there’s cyanide in the seeds,” attributing the warning to the FDA. The speaker contrasts this with the claim that the same source is promoting vaccination, saying this juxtaposition is “delusional.” They also assert that the Hunza tribe has been eating “thousands of apricot seeds” with “there has never been a case” of harm, including “look at that in the Hunza.” The speaker then gives practical instructions: obtain apricots, use a mallet to crack the seed, and remove the inner part, which they describe as “a little seed” that is “bitter.” The bitterness is said to be “really good for this right here.” The speaker claims that “professionals aren’t gonna tell you about that” because they “get a 6% commission from doing chemo on you.” They add that apricots can be found for “$10,” and conclude by stating they would “rather trust the apricot seed than the government.”

Speaker 0 says they are “doing something right” when eye professionals come after them. Speaker 1, addressing “Doctor Vicki,” claims there is “zero evidence” that pearl powder or eye exercises help glaucoma. Speaker 0 responds that Doctor Vicki says there is no evidence that pearl powder can help glaucoma, but shares personal accounts. They say their 80-year-old father, who has had glaucoma for most of his life, “just got a good report” and was told he does not need surgery because his eyes are doing better “due to the pearl powder.” Speaker 0 also says another person went to a professional, was receiving multiple drops, and after trying pearl powder their eye pressure “went to normal.” Speaker 0 suggests eye professionals and opponents “don’t wanna look into these things,” and claims they stop “dancing on TikTok” and then “come out in pairs and attack pearl powder.” Speaker 1 asserts the claim that eye doctors are keeping information from people “because we wanna keep you guys as patients,” saying they want fewer patients and that Doctor Vicki “has no medical degree or background.” Speaker 1 also says Doctor Vicki is “not the one making money selling you shit” and calls the situation “grifters gonna grift.” Speaker 0 says people are “just crazy,” then adds that “Pearl Powder and Dogs” are also said to be helping cataracts. They claim businesses are created to keep patients coming back “forever” instead of giving solutions. Speaker 0 further claims that Lisa went to an eye professional and her prescription improved from “negative three” to “negative two point seven five” in two months using pearl. Speaker 1 concludes by questioning how anyone could explain these outcomes, calling it “witchcraft,” with the phrase “Pearl powder baby” used as a closing remark.

Speaker 0 states they want to numb "fucked up feelings," prompting Speaker 1 to advise against turning to TikTok and to seek help. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 2 of looking crazy and warns them to stay away from kids. Speaker 2 states they will slice a watermelon instead of numbing their feelings. Speaker 2 says they won't discuss the source of their feelings but wants to discuss how suppressing or numbing feelings makes them stronger and adds shame. Speaker 2 says that if they are sad, they want to just be sad, then eat a watermelon and be happy because it tastes good and is nutritious. Speaker 2 concludes that they feel sad but will get through it and that others can too, without alcohol or food to numb feelings.

Speaker 0 discusses one of the best books, The Recipe for Living Without Disease by Ajanas, and shares that they’ve been eating raw meat for eight months after discovering this work. They claim that Ajanas had diabetes, skin issues, angina, and autism, and that all of these were completely reversed by a raw food diet. They argue that people heat, cook, irradiate, and process their food and then wonder why they have health issues. They assert that there is so much bacteria in food, and that because you are made up of bacteria, cooking or irradiating food makes it sterile and “makes you sick.” The point is made more deeply by noting Eskimo diets: they allegedly ate 99% raw meat from caribou, fish, seal, moose, bear, and whale, and had no disease at all until cauldrons and processed foods were introduced to their area. The speaker mentions Doctor Potinger, who reportedly had 900 cats fed all raw meat and raw milk; none of these cats had health issues, did not need dewormers, and were healthy, whereas giving them processed kibble produced negative outcomes. They then provide examples of raw foods: raw fruit, raw meat, raw butter, raw cream, raw dairy, raw vegetables, and raw milk, labeling raw as “great things.” The overarching claim is that raw foods lead to better health and that “raw is the law,” with personal testimony that raw consumption makes people feel very good.

Speaker 0 asserts that eating three meals a day was created by the Rockefeller Foundation, and that ancestors did not eat three times daily—if they ate three times a week, that was a lot. The speaker claims that the body is meant to be in a fasted state. They explain that healing occurs during sleep because the body is fasted, allowing energy that would otherwise be used for breaking down and digesting food to be redirected toward healing and feeling sick. The speaker advises against consulting medical professionals described as “white coat” who allegedly have no idea, and recommends implementing a thirty-six-hour fast. The speaker states that stem cells are activated and go to the area of injury and to areas that need healing, asserting that the body thrives in a fasted state. They urge not to buy into the idea of three meals a day. They claim the three-meal-a-day pattern was created to keep people fat, lazy, and reliant on the Rockefeller food system, and conclude with an assertion that obesity should never be installed.

The speaker describes a severe post-vaccination experience, saying the vaccine “took my immune system and just shook it around again,” and noting that “that’s still going on.” They reference reading evidence about adverse reactions, including “damage to the immune system,” and acknowledge they were not made aware of these risks beforehand. They recount losing the use of their hands for about three weeks and realizing they were “in real trouble.” The speaker was invited by Robin Monarchy to discuss the experience, and by that time they realized they “weren’t the only one that was suffering.” They contrast this personal ordeal with a sense of media over-saturation, saying they have “stopped watching TV.” They share a cartoon memory of a guy interviewing two Quakers who ask, “How come none of your community has got COVID?” and the Quakers respond, “Well, we don’t watch TV,” remarking, “It’s so true, man,” and noting that “so much of the sickness is in our heads now.” They describe feeling trapped between trusting what “your heart tells you is right” and what appears to be the prevailing narrative, and they emphasize the difficulty of communicating their feelings to family. The speaker mentions taking a risk by speaking out, noting they were “pleased to see that it went around without too much of flack,” but they did experience some backlash, particularly from people they least wanted to upset. A central concern expressed is fear about what vaccination could do to their children, describing it as perhaps “the biggest part of the reason” for speaking out and talking to their daughters about the possibility that they “may not be able to have kids.” They acknowledge that at that point in life, their daughters “don’t probably care,” implying a tension between present concerns and future implications. The speaker concludes with that vaccination remains a source of personal risk and disclosure within their family discussions.

Speaker 0 moved to the city due to concerns about the lockdown and disagreed with the measures taken. They believed that lockdowns wouldn't stop respiratory diseases and could harm people's immune systems, leading to more depression and anxiety. Speaker 1 agreed and mentioned that obesity was a major comorbidity in hospitalizations and deaths, but discussing it was seen as taboo. They criticized the concept of body positivity, stating that it goes against scientific evidence. Both speakers agreed that people's feelings shouldn't take precedence over addressing health issues.

Too many people live in fear and end up labeling their conditions with terms like Waka Chaka Flaca and Uka Uka Booka. They visit professionals who tell them they have those conditions, but the speaker claims the real secret is to eat raw meat, raw milk, raw butter, raw eggs, organic unpasteurized blue cheese, and apricot seeds. When following this, the supposed Waka Chaka Flaca or Waka Flaca will go away, according to the speaker, who asserts to “do everything opposite” of what professionals advise. The speaker states that this is “the secret to health” they have realized. They claim professionals know nothing and don’t even know how to eat healthy. The professionals themselves are described as overweight and unhealthy, ranging from sixty-five to a hundred pounds overweight, yet they are the ones telling others how to be healthy. The speaker questions how it makes sense for unhealthy professionals to dictate health guidance.

Speaker 0 reflects on how they would explain to their kids what being a parent was like when they were kids. They suggest that, if spoken aloud, the situation seems crazy: the government was out of control, they claim the government had “literally poisoned everything” and were sending all of their money to other countries. They describe a contrast: they could not pay bills while other countries needed their money. They claim food and water were poisoned, leading them to start buying food from local farmers, and they note they didn’t eat a lot of fruits and vegetables because the quality was so bad due to the government’s poisoning. They assert that the medical industry was “basically the mafia,” claiming it was the number one killer of people in America, and they state that you couldn’t say anything about it because, as they put it, it was “literally the mafia.” They then recount that they did many things to ensure their children could keep their fertility as they aged. The speaker concludes by saying that these efforts are why they are farmers now, and they invite questions from their kids.

The speaker was on semaglutide (Ozempic) for years after being diagnosed with PCOS, but it wasn't healthy for their gut. Ozempic was a band-aid that didn't make them change their lifestyle, allowing them to eat McDonald's daily and still be skinny. The speaker believes the root issue is overeating, lack of discipline, and lack of self-control, not just insulin. Even with balanced hormones, self-control is necessary. Ozempic prevented them from addressing these core issues and achieving true growth, only affecting their appearance without changing anything internally.

The speaker discusses the challenges of standing up for their rights and the impact on their family. They mention the burden on their spouse and the fear of being forced into a long-term care facility. The speaker contemplates MAiD but their child believes that only God should decide when one lives or dies. The family's struggles and the speaker's determination for change are highlighted throughout the conversation.

Speaker 0 says they do not believe that glyphosate in Argentina is causing increases in cancer, and claims that someone could drink a whole quart of it “and it won’t hurt you.” Speaker 1 responds that they have some available and asks if Speaker 0 wants to drink some. Speaker 0 indicates they would be happy to drink it but not really, stating “I know it wouldn’t hurt me.” Speaker 1 says, “I know this is dangerous,” and Speaker 0 rejects the idea that it is dangerous to humans, saying people try to commit suicide and that it fails fairly regularly, and “it’s not dangerous to humans.” Speaker 1 presses Speaker 0 about drinking “one glass,” but Speaker 0 says, “I’m not an idiot,” and instead shifts the topic, saying, “Interview me about golden rice. That’s what I’m talking about.” The conversation ends with Speaker 1 stating “Except it…” and Speaker 0 concluding, “Then the interview is finished.” Speaker 1 agrees with “That’s a good way to solve things,” and Speaker 0 calls Speaker 1 “a complete jerk.”

The speaker discusses sugar, addressing the question, “Is it really that bad?” They state that sugar has no nutritional value, is addictive, is pro-inflammatory, and feeds cancer cells. The speaker concludes that sugar is not good for you. They add a guiding idea: “I only want you to love food that loves you back.”

Speaker 1 explains their decision not to take the vaccine, citing concerns about its rushed development and safety. They express a desire to set an example for their children and stand by their convictions, even at the cost of losing money. Speaker 0 acknowledges that standing by one's convictions is typically seen as heroic, but Speaker 1 faced criticism instead. Speaker 1 clarifies that they never publicly discouraged vaccination and preferred to keep their decision private. They mention knowing someone who was injured by the vaccine and emphasize the importance of speaking up about such experiences. Speaker 0 agrees that telling the truth often leads to trouble, highlighting a perceived lack of consequences for lying.