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The speaker stumbled upon the involvement of the CIA in vaccine production, specifically with Pfizer and Moderna. They discovered that Resilience, a biotechnology company, partnered with Moderna and received significant funding from the US government, Department of Defense, and other organizations. The speaker also highlighted connections between Resilience's team members and the intelligence community, as well as ties to big banking. They expressed concerns about the influence of these individuals and organizations in the production of vaccines and emphasized the need for transparency and control. The speaker also mentioned the involvement of Illumina and the connections between various board members.

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Speaker 0 argues that anyone can file a complaint with a law enforcement authority for murder conspiracy and demand arrests and prosecutions. He points to a 2013 press release claiming that DARPA awarded Moderna Therapeutics up to $25,000,000 to develop messenger RNA therapeutics, noting that DARPA is the Pentagon and claiming the Pentagon bought, paid for, and envisioned these mRNA shots. He contends Fort Detrick was involved in developing COVID-19 at the UNC BSL-3 and asserts the Pentagon is on both sides of the argument, developing the weapon and the alleged vaccines. Speaker 1 asks whether there is any liability shield for deploying a biowarfare weapon and whether the narrative about congressional liability for Pfizer is a SIOP. Speaker 0 agrees that civil liability is separate from criminal liability, stating in his book Resisting Medical Tyranny that executives at companies developing these mRNA shots are guilty of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. He cites a Portugal report claiming that upwards of 300,000 Americans had been murdered by the mRNA Franken shots and invokes the JAB resolution, describing it as a Nuremberg crime against humanity and a violation of the Nuremberg Code. He defines a Nuremberg crime against humanity as murder, extermination, and other inhumane acts committed against civilians. Speaker 1 asks about liability for government officials who approved the vaccines. Speaker 0 says FDA officials who approved the shots could be indicted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder, noting the FDA’s involvement in developing COVID-19 as an offensive biological warfare weapon at UNC BSL-3, including a cited contract listing National Center for Toxicological Research and FDA as contributors. He claims the FDA, which approves the vaccines, was involved in this development. Speaker 1 questions the CDC and media accountability, noting the CDC’s recommendation of the vaccines and media promotion of boosters. Speaker 0 says the CDC, including Director Milensky (appointed by Biden, from Harvard Medical School), is complicit, and claims the CDC has a history dating back to the Reagan administration of handling offensive biological warfare projects, including shipping weaponized agents to Saddam Hussein with implications for U.S. troops after Gulf War I. Speaker 1 asks whether there are lawmakers with intel on gain-of-function biowarfare. Speaker 0 mentions Senator Rand Paul as having a strong understanding, but asserts that some lawmakers were threatened and obstructed after consulting him, recounting an experience with Walter Jones of the House Armed Services Committee who briefly engaged but then did not follow up, implying threats prevented action. Speaker 1 asks how citizens should respond, and Speaker 0 advocates reporting to sheriffs, district attorneys, and state attorneys, noting progress with a Collier County health freedom declaration. They discuss enforcement mechanisms, seizure, and incineration of stockpiles, and trial and sentencing for those responsible. Speaker 0 condemns China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology as a bioweapons lab, alleging it was a Chinese counterpart to Fort Detrick, with the Chinese president seeking his own BSL-4 program and an offensive biowarfare arsenal. Speaker 1 notes U.S. funding and international bioweapons labs, including Ukraine and Taiwan, and ends by referencing Lindsey Graham and a speaker labeled as a professor Boyle.

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According to a report sent to Washington, SARS CoV-two was created in a Wuhan lab with unsafe conditions, funded by Fauci. The US intelligence community was actively involved and aware, using groups like In-Q-Tel. This was allegedly done despite the Chinese Communist Party's desire for bioweapon technology. The speaker calls for investigations into public and private partners connected to EcoHealth Alliance and Wuhan, including Meta Bioda and Rosemont Seneca, questioning if the president was involved in a cover-up to protect his son. Fauci allegedly coordinated a cover-up with Peter Dasek on the lab leak theory. Ralph Barack and UC Davis were also allegedly involved. The speaker accuses Fauci of lying about gain-of-function research and suggests he should be in jail. Fauci and others are allegedly profiting from the pandemic. The speaker advocates for focusing on those responsible for the pandemic instead of internal conflicts. Others discuss the potential for future outbreaks and the need for better preparedness and funding for research and vaccine development, including mRNA technology.

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The top agencies leading Operation Warp Speed were the NSA and the Pentagon, not public health agencies like HHS, CDC, or NIH. The vaccines were developed by NIH and manufactured by military tractors, with Pfizer and Moderna being paid to put their names on them. The speaker believes that Operation Warp Speed is not new, as it has been happening since 1980 at Fort Detrick, a bioweapons lab. They claim that the government has been involved in unethical practices, such as injecting the military with HIV in the 1990s.

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Money is funneled through cover organizations to make it appear as if the US is funding a project with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The coronavirus manipulation began with researcher Ralph Barrick in 1999. The US Center for Disease Control filed a patent on the coronavirus in 2003, which could be illegal if the virus was either manufactured or natural. In 2007, the CDC filed patents on the virus, its detection, and a test kit, giving them control over who could study or measure the virus. This allowed them to profit from the coronavirus.

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The speaker is working with Jay Bhattacharya and Secretary Kennedy to investigate US-funded gain of function research, including at the Wuhan lab, which they believe may have led to the COVID-19 pandemic. They aim to provide evidence linking this research to the pandemic. The speaker claims Anthony Fauci denied this research under oath and may have sought a preemptive pardon. They argue that gain of function research continues in biolabs worldwide, posing a risk of future pandemics. The speaker faced criticism for warning about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine. The speaker questions why the intelligence community was reluctant to conclude that COVID-19 originated in a lab, contrasting this with instances where they quickly make assumptions without conclusive evidence. They attribute this to the politicization of intelligence, citing the Iraq War as an example of intelligence being used to influence policy.

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To be. So I think we took everything offshore because it got gain of function got banned in The US, but I don't think we banned it. There were something like 36 bio weapons labs in Ukraine of US origin. So why is Ukraine perfect? Ukraine's perfect. To run a bioweapons lab, you need first world infrastructure and third world people to test shit on. Ukraine's pretty much got that, right? Fauci, for example, in The United States, when he had to do clinical trials, one of his lower rank they'd go to foster care. They would do clinical trials on foster children. You got to read Kennedy's book. He did an estimate they used an estimate of 13,000, 14,000 foster kids to do clinical trials. They said the kids would figure out they're getting sick and they wouldn't want to take the meds. Five gs has been been doing damage to people and killing people for many, many years.

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Over a year ago, we knew about the biolabs, their experiments, and related documents. It started in 2005 with the Defense Intelligence Agency, which created the Global Viral Forecasting Institute with Nathaniel Wolf, later Meta Biota. Rosemont Fonseca, an investment firm headed by Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr., funded Meta Biota. This is a corrupt operation developed over the last decade to generate biological warfare against the Russians. They've been collecting DNA from Slavic people. General Igor Krylyov exposed this as a war crime because it violates the biological weapons agreement. America's 30 biolabs in Ukraine experimented on animal-to-human transmission, which is the origin of COVID-19. The research conducted in Ukraine will be directly connected to COVID-19. The United States created and opened this Pandora's box.

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The Chinese State Council Information Office claims COVID originated in the U.S. A special team is investigating COVID's origins, with findings on covid.gov. Work is being done with Jay Bhattacharya and Secretary Kennedy, looking at U.S. funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab and other biolabs, which has led to health crises. The goal is to find the specific link between gain of function research and COVID-19. If Peter Daszak's research with the Wuhan lab caused the pandemic, then the U.S. funded it, and Anthony Fauci denied it under oath. Gain of function research is ongoing in biolabs worldwide, like in Ukraine. Warning against U.S. funded biolabs in Ukraine led to accusations of being a Russian asset. The intelligence community was reluctant to say COVID came from a lab, possibly due to the politicization of intelligence. This politicization dates back to intelligence used to justify the Iraq regime change war.

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In 1966, a transatlantic experiment on coronavirus manipulation began. Human trials with modified coronavirus started in 1967. Pfizer patented the first spike protein vaccine in 1990. Research showed vaccines were ineffective against mutating coronaviruses from 1990 to 2018. The University of North Carolina patented an infectious replication-defective clone of coronavirus in 2002, funded by Anthony Fauci. SARS 1.0 was engineered in a lab, not a natural occurrence. The CDC patented SARS coronavirus in 2003, violating biological and chemical weapons treaties. The RT PCR test was flagged as a bioterrorism threat in 2003 and labeled a biowarfare enabling agent from 2005 onwards. Over $10 billion was funneled through black operations involving Anthony Fauci.

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The speaker claims the DOD distributed COVID-19 vaccines and required absolute immunity, making the DOD the target for lawsuits, which would be difficult to win without the data they are hiding. They believe EcoHealth Alliance created SARS CoV-2 in the Wuhan lab with the DOD or CIA's approval, transferring the necessary technology to the CCP. A study showed a 12 nucleotide sequence in a Moderna patent from 2016 perfectly matched SARS CoV-2, suggesting the disease was developed in the mid-2010s. The speaker presents military medical records showing a soldier receiving COVID-19 immunizations by Moderna in 2014, suggesting the need to investigate the real history of COVID. They also claim to have Pfizer documents discussing shedding and a Komunardi approval agreeing to a study based on oncolytic gene products for gene therapy shedding.

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EcoHealth Alliance was partnering with this Wuhan lab to create to do gain and function research. That's right. We just have never been able to have somebody say it and it was that exact experiment that led to this COVID bug. We are we are working on that with, Jay Bhattacharya and look forward to being able to share that, hopefully, very soon. That that specific Link. Correct. Between the gain of function research and what we saw with COVID nineteen. I mean, that would be extraordinary because just so the audience knows, if that's true, if it was Peter Daszak's research with the Wuhan so called bat lady that caused this pandemic, then we did fund it. Then Anthony Fauci helped fund the pandemic. These things that he denied over and over and over to senator Rand Paul's questioning. That's right. Under oath. It it

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The speaker discusses how the pandemic was used to assert control, profit the pharmaceutical industry, and introduce surveillance measures. They highlight the involvement of intelligence agencies and the military in the pandemic response, with the NSA and Pentagon leading Operation Warp Speed. The speaker claims that the vaccines were developed by NIH and manufactured by military contractors, not by Moderna and Pfizer. They also mention multiple simulations of coronavirus outbreaks sponsored by the CIA over the years. The speaker questions the origins of the virus and the involvement of the Chinese CDC and CIA in suppressing the lab leak theory. They connect the history of bioweapons research to the CIA and Pentagon's interest in gain-of-function research.

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Money is funneled through cover organizations to make it appear as if the US is funding a project with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The coronavirus manipulation began with researcher Ralph Barrick in 1999. The US Center for Disease Control filed a patent on the coronavirus in 2003, which could be illegal if it was either manufactured or natural. The CDC also filed patents on virus detection and measurement kits, giving them control over who could investigate the virus. This allowed them to profit from turning the coronavirus into a lucrative venture.

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Speaker 0 contends that the top organization that managed Operation Warp Speed and the pandemic was not a public health agency but the NSA, a spy agency, with the Pentagon as the second agency. He asserts that vaccines were developed not by Moderna and Pfizer, but by NIH, whose patents are owned 50% by NIH, and that vaccines were manufactured not by Pfizer or Moderna but by military contractors. He claims Pfizer and Moderna were paid to put their stamps on those vaccines as if they came from the pharmaceutical industry. Speaker 1 responds by stating it’s not warp speed, but has been happening since 06/10/1980 when entering a Fort Detrick military installation, where the sign was turned around with then-president Richard Nixon. He says, “Oh, we’re just gonna cure cancer,” but asserts they turned the sign around on the bioweapons lab, making it a historic landmark at Fort Detrick where they had the gas chamber for the end and a plaque was placed when a new lab was built. He characterizes it as all part of a “plague of corruption” and claims that those involved are protecting themselves because the government, and they played the game. Speaker 1 further alleges that it does not matter whether it is Deborah Birx or Robert Redfield, because they injected the military with HIV in the nineties, and that they know it. He references “HIV p n l four three” and claims to know the plasmid and the exact one, asserting that he knows the people who were injected and that this data exists in his freezer.

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Speaker 0 argues that the world has been lied to for 110 years by a small group of criminal industrial conspirators who aim to subjugate humanity to enrich themselves, impoverish and kill others, and that the words “acceptable death rate” have become an industrial norm. They claim this is not just a political disagreement but a crime, asserting that the World Health Organization (WHO) and pharmaceutical companies authorized to begin the process of killing human beings in the interest of advancing their goals. The speaker declares this is a criminal cartel and states they will show documents proving it, insisting this is not an allegation but something that is provable by their own words. The four-step process alleged for executing nefarious plans is: 1) they begin by planning an exercise, 2) they fund that exercise, 3) they create the rationale for what they will do, and 4) they deploy and profit from it. They claim this violates 15 U.S. code section 19 (and connect it to the Clayton Act and the early formation of WHO in 1947), and they claim violation of the TFEU (the treaty for the functioning of the European Union), asserting Article 101 sets out that this was never public health but racketeering to instill terror to adapt population behavior. Data from Zurich is used to argue there was no pandemic: the speaker notes that during the death pandemic of the globe, life insurance claims fell by $30,000,000,000, stating that the data is unambiguous and that there was genocide rather than a pandemic. They pivot to the 2011 WHO, Welcome Trust, PATH, and Gates Foundation malaria vaccine program for children under six months, highlighting that 66 children in the vaccine group were murdered and 28 in the control group were murdered, with the control described as a cocktail of pathogenic injections rather than saline. The speaker references Article five, section 13, claiming immunity from arrest or legal process was designed as permanent immunity for a criminal organization formed in 1947; they connect the first WHO director general, Renee Sand (sic) from the Dachau-era milieu, to Brock Chisholm, who allegedly advocated population control as a primary objective. The claim extends to funding and influence: Gates Foundation allegedly provides 88% of WHO’s foundation donations, which the speaker says constitutes a tax and competition law violation in Europe and the United States. The four-step process is illustrated again with sourcing: to sustain funding beyond the crisis, to increase public understanding for medical countermeasures like pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccines, and to use media hype to attract investors who see profit at the end of the process, as documented by the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board and Peter Daszak’s partnerships. The 2014 Rand Paul–Anthony Fauci correspondence is cited, showing a letter from NIAID to UNC Chapel Hill stating that gain-of-function research would continue during a moratorium with a budget funded by DARPA and NIH. The speaker quotes that the Wuhan virus was anticipated, citing a 2016 publication stating SARS-like Wuhan Institute of Virology virus one is poised for human emergence, implying foreknowledge and manipulation of the virus in Wuhan and UNC Chapel Hill. The talk shifts to the characterization of the work as biological warfare enabling technologies, referencing Ralph Baric’s 2005 DARPA/MITRE presentation and subsequent NIAID and DARPA funding, concluding that the project was to produce biological warfare enabling technologies rather than public health measures. They highlight substantial profits for Pfizer and Moderna from public funds and accuse the WHO of laundering money via a budget expansion request of 11%. In closing, the speaker maintains this is not a public health crime or constitutional crime, but a criminal conspiracy of criminal racketeers. They call for ending the criminal organization itself and urge everyone to destroy the WHO.

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The video discusses the relaunch of the bioweapons arms race through the Patriot Act, which allowed federal officials to engage in bioweapons research without prosecution. The Pentagon sent the research to Anthony Fauci's shop, NIAID, which became the official biodefense agency of the US government. Bioweapons research is always done alongside vaccine research, as vaccines are necessary for offensive bioweapon programs. In 2014, three deadly bugs escaped from US labs, leading 300 scientists to urge President Obama to shut down Anthony Fauci's gain of function research. Instead, the research was moved offshore, including to the Wuhan lab in China. The US bioweapons program inherited its culture and techniques from Nazi and Japanese scientists. Pandemic preparedness and response is seen as a forever war, involving the collection of potential zoonotic spillover bugs, the creation of dangerous pathogens for defense purposes, and the coordinated governmental response to remove civil rights. The speaker suggests that gain of function research should be criminalized and an international treaty should be established to stop it. The key individuals to depose would be Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, Jeremy Farrar, Bill Gates, April Haines, Peter Daszak, Xi Jingli, and Ralph Baric.

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The speaker claims Anthony Fauci funded research at the Wuhan lab, providing them with the technology to develop coronavirus. It's alleged Fauci gave them the precise technology for developing the pathogen and published about it, crediting NIH for financing the studies. Ralph Barack from the University of North Carolina allegedly developed a technique called seamless ligation, which hides the laboratory origins of a manipulated virus. This technique, also called the "no see" technique, conceals evidence of human tampering. The speaker questions why Fauci would give this technology to the Chinese, as the lab was a military lab run by the military.

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Project Veritas has obtained military documents revealing information about the origins of COVID-19, gain of function research, vaccines, and potential treatments. These documents contradict Dr. Anthony Fauci's claims that the US government was not involved in gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The documents include a report from DARPA, a US Department of Defense agency, which states that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in 2018 seeking funding for dangerous gain of function research. DARPA rejected the proposal, but the NIAID, under Dr. Fauci's direction, proceeded with the research in Wuhan and other US sites. The question arises as to why the NIH, NIAID, and EcoHealth Alliance disregarded the risks when even the Department of Defense deemed the research too dangerous.

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The speaker is working with Jay Bhattacharya and Secretary Kennedy to investigate US-funded gain of function research, including at the Wuhan lab, and its potential link to the COVID-19 pandemic. They aim to provide evidence showing why ending this research is in the American people's best interest. The speaker claims that Anthony Fauci funded the pandemic and then denied it under oath to Senator Rand Paul. They also suggest Fauci sought a preemptive pardon from President Biden. The speaker was attacked for warning against US-funded biolabs in Ukraine, fearing potential pathogen releases. The speaker questions why the intelligence community was reluctant to conclude that COVID-19 originated in a lab, suggesting politicization of intelligence to meet objectives or influence policy. They draw a parallel to the intelligence used to justify the Iraq regime change war and its consequences. The speaker emphasizes the need to address these issues within the intelligence community and highlights the importance of leadership.

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American tax dollars likely funded gain-of-function research that created the virus, according to the speakers. They mention funding from various government agencies, including NIH, the State Department, USAID, and DOD. They argue that Dr. Fauci, under whose direction the research was conducted, is responsible for teaching Chinese military scientists how to build weapons of mass destruction. They also claim that Fauci funded a technique called seamless ligation, which hides human tampering on the virus. The speakers question the justification for funding such research and highlight the involvement of USAID, the Department of Defense, and the CIA. They suggest a cover-up and raise concerns about the origins of the virus.

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George Webb discusses Steven Hatfield’s 2022 paper on superantigens and Bruce Ivins. He notes Ivins’ work in 2013 on superantigens and questions how “this super antigen” entered mRNA vaccines, suggesting it could cause myocarditis and other effects discussed. Webb highlights that Hatfield references his mentor, William Patrick the third, and a personal communication with Patrick from 07/11/1998. He recalls Ivins’ 1989 work on superantigens with staphylococcal enterotoxins and teratoxins, mentioning Winchester Cathedral, and states that Ivins’ blood stains appear to be connected to this paper published nineteen years later as a “smoking gun.” Webb points to Robert Cadillac in theHatfield paper, which assigns blame to the Chinese, describing a joint venture with USAID and China to insert bioweapon-like mRNA sequences into the mRNA vaccine. Cadillac is characterized as blaming a deceased individual who obtained a patent in February 2020, whom Webb refers to as “Zuzu” and “Zuzu’s pedals.” Webb asserts that Zuzu and Zuzu’s pedals manipulated the project, rather than USAID, the State Department, diplomatic immunity, or the CIA, and claims these entities did not benefit from developing superantigens or super antibodies. The discussion emphasizes Ivins’ work in 1989 as the “juice,” which allegedly connects to two large clinical trials involving soldiers in Iraq I and II. Webb also mentions Carrie Mullis, claiming she worked on an artificial version of the superantigen and a potential artificial antibody using a DART molecule. He notes that the antigenic Y region of the DART molecule is very similar to the Y region of the antibody and the Y region of the superantigen. Webb presents this as evidence for a broader future in medicine involving replacing the immune system with “their” immune system. He claims that this would involve inflammation until purchasing proprietary antibodies or proprietary superantigens, and that people remain susceptible to inflammatory superantigens until acquiring the associated products. Across the monologue, Webb portrays a narrative of a conspiracy linking Ivins’ historical work on superantigens to modern mRNA vaccines, implicating a specific set of individuals (Zuzu, Zuzu’s pedals) and institutions (USAID, China) while suggesting a trajectory toward proprietary immune-system replacement therapies through superantigens and super antibodies.

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Over a year ago, we discovered the existence of bio labs and their experiments, along with documents and contractors involved. The Defense Intelligence Agency initiated the Global Viral Forecasting Institute in 2005, which later became Meta Biota. This organization received funding from Rosemont Fonseca, an investment firm led by Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr. These connections reveal a corrupt operation developed by the West under Obama and Biden, aiming to create DNA biological chemical warfare against Russia. General Igor Krylyov's findings expose a violation of the global biological chemical weapons agreement, as America's 30 bio labs in Ukraine conducted animal to human transmission experiments, likely contributing to the origin of COVID-19. This reveals a Pandora's box created by the United States.

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COVID Origins and Gain of Function with Sam Husseini
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Whitney Webb and Sam Husseini discuss the sudden mainstream pivot toward the lab origin of COVID-19 and the broader gain-of-function debate, noting two drivers: more scientists speaking out and a nefarious push by spooks in conjunction with the Biden administration. The conversation centers on why attention to a possible Wuhan Institute of Virology link and related US funding has intensified, while acknowledging that coverage remains limited and often non-systematic. They prefer the term “lab origin” over “lab leak,” recognizing that both accidental releases and intentional actions have precursors that merit systematic study. Husseini outlines how censorship last year suppressed discussion of lab origin and dual-use biodefense research, detailing personal experiences with CDC Q&A responses and the rise of the Lancet letter orchestrated by Peter Daszak that dismissed lab origin as a conspiracy theory. He notes the Nature Medicine piece that claimed lab origin was not a possibility and argues that, despite little new data, the shift is driven by political calculations tied to Trump’s stance and the desire of parts of the establishment to bottle up the issue while using it against China. He recalls difficulty in obtaining outlets willing to publish and describes a climate where independent media faced deplatforming and selective coverage. The EcoHealth Alliance is analyzed for its funding and conflicts of interest. Although NIH funding was suspended, Husseini reveals that EcoHealth receives far more from the Pentagon (DTRA) and USAID, with NIH funding often downplayed by the group. He cites FOIA reveals via US Right to Know, Daszak’s role in Lancet, and how Nobel Prize signatories defended what he calls a non-scientific stance. The Global Virome Project, Gates Foundation, WEF, USAID’s PREDICT, and Metabiota are described as interconnected, with figures such as George Gao and WHO/NIH participants appearing at related meetings. The discussion also covers Fort Detrick breaches and the quarantine around dangerous lab work, noting a 2014 pause in gain-of-function research and contemporary safety lapses, along with congressional notification gaps. The narrative ties to the anthrax era, Kadlec, and the broader critique of the militarized, profit-linked structure of “big science.” They discuss two competing camps: one accusing China and one defending continued dangerous lab work, and argue the need to scrutinize gain-of-function regardless of origin. The interview closes with references to David Franz, the Nine-Eleven Commission, and potential future reporting, with links to Sam Husseini’s work and upcoming Independent Science News pieces.

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The Debate Debacle and 2020’s “Darkest Winter”
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Whitney Webb and Robbie Martin emphasize a set of recent events and ongoing narratives they view as underreported but consequential, including a major hospital-network hack across four states that coincided with nine 11 call center outages, and a broader push they describe as setting the stage for a “darkest winter” in the 2020s with claims that post–COVID-19 crisis bioterror could follow. They flag a convergence of the national security state, Silicon Valley power brokers, and biotech industry as driving these developments. They recap the first US presidential debate as a “total shit show,” a shouted, interruptive exchange with little substantive policy to analyze, remarking on the gap between media judgments about who “won” and the overall impression of both candidates as immature in the exchange. They note the moderator Chris Wallace’s role and the absence of audience feedback, suggesting Trump’s reliance on audience energy was disrupted; they also discuss the prospect of Kamala Harris entering the race and how donor circles and foreign-policy commentary have framed her as a potentially pivotal figure, especially given Silicon Valley support and the broader push for increased surveillance and digital-platform dominance. The conversation then pivots to the broader ecosystem behind these dynamics, highlighting how figures like Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt dominate a fusion of the national security state and Silicon Valley, with Palantir and Emergent BioSolutions at the center of biosecurity and vaccine development. They discuss Emergent’s involvement in producing COVID-19 vaccine candidates and the company’s safety history, including anthrax vaccine production, and a leadership shift at Emergent’s facility that raises questions about quality control. They connect Kadlik, who chairs BARDA and oversees the strategic stockpile, to broader patterns of public–private collaboration that have intensified since 9/11, including DARPA-linked relationships, funding flows, and the militarization of health security. A prominent thread is the emergence of a bioterror narrative that intertwines domestic extremism with foreign-state actors. They scrutinize a spate of articles and reports—from Politico’s worldwide threat assessments to the Jerusalem Post and other outlets—that describe a supposed alliance between white supremacists and Iran or Al Qaeda, and they insist the framing relies on cherry-picked sources, think-tank pedigrees, and a long lineage of “Dark Winter”-era precursors. They point to Ryson letters, hoax anthrax letters, and a pattern of sensational reports ahead of elections to shape public perception and policy. They argue these narratives are coordinated with warnings of engineered pathogens and heightened surveillance, including calls for travel bans and contact tracing, which they see as tools to expand state power over civil liberties. They close by underscoring the intersection of Microsoft, DHS, and the national-security apparatus, arguing that the ongoing push toward surveillance-driven governance—through artificial intelligence, predictive health, and militarized vaccine deployment—signals a trend toward a domestic security state that could outpace public accountability. They warn that the climate of fear makes it easier to sell expansive control measures, and stress the importance of remaining vigilant about how these forces shape policy regardless of who wins elections.
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