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32 years ago, Biden's presidential campaign faced blunders like exaggerating his academic record and falsely claiming to have marched in the civil rights movement. Accusations of plagiarism in his speeches led to his withdrawal from the race.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being a corrupt politician. Speaker 1 responds by mentioning that 50 former national intelligence officials and the heads of the CIA have dismissed the accusations as false. Speaker 0 dismisses this as another Russia hoax. Speaker 1 tries to steer the conversation back to the issue of race.

The exchange centers on accusations of hyperbolic statements and the accuracy of quoted posts. Speaker 0 challenges Speaker 1's credibility, citing a series of posts and asking whether the statements were read correctly. - On 02/11/2026, Speaker 0 cites a Blueski post: “my words or your words, not mine. The democrats video telling service members to ignore illegal orders didn't go far enough. They should have also urged them to refuse unethical orders, whether illegal or not. There are many things deemed legal that are still obviously unethical, and everyone should hold themselves to this higher law,” and asks, “Did I read that correctly?” Speaker 1 confirms reading it and asks if Speaker 0 disagrees with it, questioning whether people should do unethical things in their capacity of [unknown context]. - On 12/31/2025, Speaker 0 references a post reading, “in front of god and country. … They referring to Republicans think they control their way into us accepting ethnic cleansing,” and asks, “Did I read that correctly?” Speaker 1 responds that it related to a DHS security post advocating a 100,000,000 deportations, stating that “A 100,000,000 deportations would be ethnic cleansing,” adding, “You would be True. One third of the country. So, yes, there are people within the Department of Homeland security.” Speaker 0 asks whether this is hyperbolic and requests more time. - On 02/05 (implied), Speaker 1 notes, “advocating a 100,000,000” but the sentence is cut off in the transcript. Speaker 0 comments, “reputations is … cleansing,” while continuing to engage in the discussion with the chair and audience; Speaker 0 asks for thirty more seconds. - On 03/02, Speaker 0 quotes Speaker 1: “if you rule against Trump's population purge agenda, no hyper permanently there, the nativists will name you, threaten you, and come after you. These judges are much braver than the ICE agents who hide behind masks while violating the constitution. They are much braver.” Speaker 1 clarifies, “They put their names on their rulings, and they stand behind their constitutional rulings. When I talk about population purge, I'm talking about the fact that they're trying to deport US born citizens, people born here. They are trying to deport them as well. So it's not a mass deportation agenda. It is also an agenda intended to reduce the population of The United States, including US born people.” - Speaker 0 responds, “Thank you.” Speaker 1 adds, “These are not hyperbolic statements. I appreciate you reading my account. Here's the good news.” The conversation escalates in tone as Speaker 0 interjects with disbelief, asking, “What planet … parachute him from?” Speaker 1 replies, “No. No.” Speaker 0 comments, “Hey, guys. You're you you You trigger my gag reflex,” and Speaker 1 closes with, “Mr. Bieber.”

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about investigating allegations, but Speaker 1 avoids commenting. Speaker 0 expresses concern on behalf of millions of Americans and criticizes Senate Democrats and the media for not addressing the evidence. Speaker 0 asks if the informant who accused Joe Biden of taking a bribe was previously relied upon by the FBI, but Speaker 1 evades a direct answer. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of refusing to answer and calls it disgraceful.

Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of discrediting herself by focusing on trivial matters concerning Biden, such as his ice cream preference, instead of investigating Hunter Biden's alleged financial dealings with foreign entities. Speaker 1 claims Hunter Biden received millions from Moscow and significant payments from an energy company despite lacking relevant experience. Speaker 0 states that the Hunter Biden laptop story originated from Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani and cannot be verified. Speaker 1 insists the laptop's existence is known and that it's crucial to investigate potential corruption involving Biden and foreign money from China, Ukraine, and Russia. Speaker 1 also alleges Biden's brother profited in Iraq without prior experience. Speaker 1 asserts this is a major scandal that Speaker 0 is ignoring. Speaker 0 reiterates the laptop cannot be verified.

Speaker 1 argues that a scandal exists that is bad for Biden, but it can't be verified, while insignificant things are discussed. Speaker 1 claims the laptop was found, but the family is in hiding. Speaker 1 believes the media is fake and social media is the only way to get their voice out. Speaker 0 recalls Speaker 1 saying the media is discredited to ensure negative reports are not believed. Speaker 1 denies having to discredit Speaker 0, saying they discredited themself. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of inappropriately bringing up tough questions from the beginning, questions Speaker 1 claims Joe Biden is never asked. Speaker 1 states that Speaker 0's first statement was about asking tough questions, which Speaker 1 deems inappropriate. Speaker 1 ends the interview early.

Joe Biden has denied involvement in his family's business deals, but witnesses claim otherwise. They believe he lied about interacting with Hunter Biden's associates and is the closer for their business dealings with foreign interests. The speaker challenges the left to prove otherwise before yielding the floor.

For 4 years, mainstream media denied Joe Biden's cognitive struggles, calling videos fake. In a recent debate, Biden's live performance proved otherwise, showing his difficulties. The speaker thanked Biden for revealing the truth with courage.

Speaker 0: Some people criticize Biden for not being genuine in his speeches. Speaker 1: He admits to not giving credit when quoting others, like Neil Kinnock and Robert Kennedy. Speaker 2: CBS News found another instance of Biden's plagiarism. Speaker 3: Biden also plagiarized John Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey, and Neil Kinnock without acknowledgment. Speaker 2: Biden confessed to unintentional plagiarism in law school. Speaker 1: He copied five pages of someone else's work without citation and received an F. Speaker 4: Biden acknowledges his mistakes but admits to doing dumb things. Speaker 1: Critics argue that if Biden's words and visions belong to others, it's false advertising. Speaker 5: Taking personal material from another politician is unwise. Speaker 6: Appropriating someone else's personal material was a stupid move. Speaker 7: Many people now associate Biden with plagiarism. Speaker 8: These clips are politically devastating, making Biden appear like a wind-up doll with someone else's words.

The speaker claims that the biggest scandal was when their campaign was spied on, but the other person disagrees, saying there is no evidence. The speaker insists that it is all over the place and that it was bad for Biden. The other person explains that they can't put on things they can't verify. The speaker continues to assert that it has been verified and that they got caught. The other person denies knowing about it.

Speaker 0 notes that Biden “may have more explaining to do.” Speaker 1 introduces the topic as arising from taped remarks of Biden during an April campaign appearance in New Hampshire. Speaker 2 recalls self-descriptions Biden offered: that he “went to law school on a full academic scholarship,” being “the only one in my class that have a full academic scholarship,” that he “went back to law school” and “ended up in the top half of my class,” that he “was the outstanding student in the political science department at the end of my year,” that he “graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school and a 165 credits, only a 123 credits.” Speaker 1 states that Biden now concedes he did not graduate in the top half of his law school class, that he does not have three degrees from college, and that he was not named outstanding political science student in college. Speaker 0 reports Newsweek’s version: Biden “actually went to school on a half scholarship, ended up near the bottom of his class, and won only one degree, not three.” Speaker 3 adds: “Joe Biden ranked seventy sixth in the class of 85 at the University of Syracuse Law School. I mean, this guy comes off this whole thing as a flyweight.” Speaker 1 repeats that Biden says Newsweek is right and that his memory had failed him. Speaker 2 fires back: “And I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you’d like, Frank.” Speaker 1 repeats: “Joe Biden was victimized by the truth.” Speaker 2 concludes with “Bye bye Biden. He may not know it yet, but I think this is very diff going to be very difficult for him to recover it.” Speaker 0 asks: “Is Joe Biden dead meat? Yes or” Speaker 2 responds: “I think so. Bob? He’s” Speaker 3 interjects: “in terminal condition.” Speaker 0 asks for confirmation: “Terminal? Elinor?” Speaker 2 affirms: “Yes. Unless he comes in third in Iowa.” Speaker 0 labels: “Morton. Dying. I say dead.”

Biden's inconsistent claims about his civil rights involvement include exaggerating being arrested while trying to visit Nelson Mandela. He initially said he was arrested in Soweto with the UN ambassador, but later clarified it was at the Johannesburg airport. This raises questions about whether he was confused or embellishing the story.

Speaker 1 accuses the media of bias for not covering a supposed scandal involving Biden. Speaker 0 defends the need for verification. Speaker 1 claims the scandal can be verified due to a laptop. The conversation escalates with accusations of media bias and unfair questioning. The interview is abruptly ended.

Speaker 0 asks Biden about the allegations of illegal or unethical behavior regarding his family's business interests in Ukraine and China. Speaker 1 denies the claims, calling them lies. Speaker 0 mentions the lawsuits, but Speaker 1 again denies any interaction.

Speaker 0 marched in the civil rights movement to change attitudes. They were involved in desegregating movie theaters and organizing voter registration drives. Speaker 0 sat in black churches with Jewish rabbis, preparing to desegregate movie theaters. They have been involved in causes since they were 18, including desegregating restaurants. However, according to the New York Times, Speaker 2 claims that Speaker 0 lied about marching in the civil rights movement. Despite being reminded of this, Speaker 0 continued to tell the story. Speaker 2 finds this behavior strange.

Speaker 0 accuses the man of lying, noting he claims he only ever met him once while they had lived next to him for twenty-some years. Speaker 1 explains that, with his wife present, they apologized, left, and decided they will never be in the room with that disgusting person again—social, business, or philanthropy—because that guy was there. Speaker 0 adds that it’s a disgrace how this guy has a job today, calling him a proven liar advising the president of the United States every day, and says they’re done with these people.

According to Speaker 1, Joe Biden is responsible for problems in the American criminal law system that negatively impact black people, stemming from legislation in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. The speaker claims Biden said, "Negroes are animals" and recounts Biden's past plagiarism scandal. The speaker alleges that incriminating information on Biden was found on his son's laptops, which is why the documents are being sought from Trump. The speaker cites the Supreme Court case Department of the Navy versus Eagan, stating there are no limits on a president's power to classify or declassify information. The speaker criticizes John Legend for pontificating about racism without relevant expertise, while Biden has a history of racist remarks and policies. The speaker also defends Trump's record on race relations. Speaker 0 accuses John Legend of being a sellout and puppet who only addresses racism during election years and urges him to invest in Black communities instead of crying racism on TV.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of selling access to the president through his son's job at a gas company. Speaker 1 denies the claim and challenges Speaker 0 to do physical activities together. Speaker 1 defends his son, stating that no one has accused him of wrongdoing. Speaker 0 mentions hearing the accusation on MSNBC, but Speaker 1 disputes this. Speaker 1 criticizes Speaker 0's lack of backbone. Speaker 2 comments on Speaker 1's defensive and angry response, claiming that it reveals the real Joe Biden. Speaker 2 asserts that Joe Biden sent his son to peddle influence overseas, and when confronted, Joe Biden denies it, claiming that the mainstream media has not reported it.

Speaker 1 insisted that a story should be aired because it is "bad for Biden," while Speaker 0 refused because it "can't be verified," specifically referencing a laptop. Speaker 1 claimed the laptop story is "one of the biggest scandals" and that the family is in hiding. Speaker 1 accused the media of being "fake" and said social media is the only way to get his voice out. Speaker 0 claimed Speaker 1 once said the media was discredited to ensure negative stories would not be believed. Speaker 1 denied this. Speaker 1 contrasted the interview with what he characterized as "softball" interviews given to Joe Biden. Speaker 1 took issue with the interview beginning with the interviewer stating there would be "tough questions." Speaker 1 then ended the interview.

Speaker 0 states they want Black businesses to survive and thrive and claims to do a ton for them. They cite their work with the Department of Transportation under Pete Buttigieg, saying they tried to insulate Black businesses from a "crazy regime" to ensure they could still get contracts for infrastructure projects. Speaker 0 also claims to have a great relationship with Black businesses in their community and works with the Black chamber of business. They invite Speaker 1's organization to join, but say they have to go and suggest calling their office. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of not having time for Black people and running away. Speaker 0 responds that they always have time, but the conversation is becoming too hostile, and they don't want to "pop off."

Speaker 0: We already have a n-word mayor. We don't need any more n-word big shots. Speaker 1: Are you still going to vote for Joe? Poor kids are just as bright and tall as white kids. If you can't decide if you're for Trump, then you're not black. You can't go to a 711 without an Indian accent. There's a foot. Speaker 2: In this clip, Biden mistakes a 6-year-old girl for a 17-year-old and touches her face and hair. Speaker 1: How old are you, 17? Oh, 6. Speaker 2: Again, he grabs her face and hair. Speaker 0: We already have a n-word mayor. We don't need any more n-word.

I was involved in the civil rights movement as a high school kid, desegregating movie theaters and restaurants. I sat in black churches next to Jewish rabbis, preparing to desegregate movie theaters. Despite not actually marching, I remained engaged in civil rights causes since I was 18. Despite being reminded that I did not march, I continued to tell the story. This behavior is strange. Translation: I participated in civil rights activities as a teenager, desegregating establishments and sitting in churches. Even though I didn't physically march, I stayed committed to civil rights causes. Despite being reminded of this, I continued to share the story, which is odd.

The speaker does not like Trump but dislikes his opponent more. In 1972, while interning at a DC think tank, the speaker heard Joe Biden give a speech outside the State Capitol Building in Dover. According to the speaker, Biden said, "Negro children are like roaches...they will infest [the schools] and they will never be gotten out." The speaker claims Biden said Negroes were animals who turned the streets into jungles and that Biden and Senator Eastland had a plan to put these Negro animals in zoos. The speaker also recalls that the 1981 crime bill, along with actions by Biden, Eastland, and Dennis, abolished federal parole, meaning a five-year sentence resulted in 56 months of incarceration.

I was involved in the civil rights movement as a teenager, but not as an activist. Joe Biden made hurtful comments about racial jungle and opposed bussing. I confronted him in debates, but now we seem friendly. Not everyone criticized him like I did.

The speaker claims the biggest scandal was spying on their campaign, insisting it's verified despite lack of evidence. They urge to air it for Biden's detriment. The interviewer refuses, citing the need for verification. The speaker insists they were spied on and caught, challenging the interviewer to check the papers. The interviewer remains skeptical.