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Speaker 1 claims that Speaker 0's statements are lies. Speaker 1 founded the Asylum Seeker Network of Support to fight US policy, which evolved into creating programs. Speaker 2 says Speaker 0 is there to take from them, but they are standing as a community. Speaker 0 asks if they are taking pictures of children near trans flags, condoms, and sex-related items, which they deem inappropriate for a public park. Speaker 0 tells Speaker 2 to stop touching them. Speaker 1 says Speaker 0 is not welcome in their space, but Speaker 0 says it is a public park. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of assault. Speaker 1 denies being violent and suggests Speaker 0 give them personal space. Speaker 0 accuses them of gaslighting and asks why they threw coffee at them, stating they are just there to cover the event.

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Speaker 0 talks about their involvement in the civil rights movement, mentioning desegregating movie theaters, organizing voter registration drives, and sitting in black churches. They emphasize their deep involvement in the movement since they were 18 years old. Speaker 1, referencing the New York Times, accuses Biden of lying about marching in the civil rights movement. Despite being reminded that he hadn't actually marched, Biden continued to tell the story. Speaker 1 finds this behavior strange.

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Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being a corrupt politician. Speaker 1 responds by mentioning that 50 former national intelligence officials and the heads of the CIA have dismissed the accusations as false. Speaker 0 dismisses this as another Russia hoax. Speaker 1 tries to steer the conversation back to the issue of race.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they believe in a free press and if they think the public service is full of racists. Speaker 1 responds with "no" to both questions. Speaker 0 then questions why there is a demand for anti-racism training and asks if Speaker 1 has experienced racism. Speaker 1 refuses to comment. Speaker 0 expresses confusion about why Speaker 1 is on a picket line if they don't want to convey their message to the public. Speaker 1 continues to refuse to comment. Speaker 0 then asks if Speaker 1 has ever been victimized by a racist in the public service.

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Speaker 0 states that socialism, Islam, and Palestine are the three holy grail taboos in American politics. Speaker 1 responds enthusiastically. Speaker 0 asks why Palestine is a part of Speaker 1's politics. Speaker 1 answers that growing up in the third world gives a different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.

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Speaker 0 admits to being paid to pretend to protest at the Capitol building. They mention having difficulty pulling off the act and getting a bruise on their leg. Although they don't reveal who paid them, they suggest it was part of an organized effort.

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Speaker 0 confesses in a video that they were paid to pretend to protest at the Capitol building. They mention having difficulty pulling off the act and getting a bruise on their leg. Although they don't reveal who paid them, they mention it was part of an organized effort.

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Speaker 0 chants "2, 4, 6, 8. Go fun of our way," twice. Speaker 1 says someone will fall through the floor and accuses "the no ma'am guy" of sending them. He suggests someone was supposed to jump out of a cake but ate it. Speaker 0 claims they are activists. Speaker 1 retorts they are not active enough. Speaker 0 says they marched yesterday. Speaker 1 asks if it was "the million pound march" or "Hams across America."

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Speaker 0 denies being a white nationalist, racist, sexist, or anti-gay. Speaker 0 challenges others to name one racist thing they've said or done. Speakers 1 and 2 accuse Speaker 0 of enabling racists like Candace Owens. Speaker 0 questions if Candace Owens is a racist. Speaker 2 criticizes Speaker 0 for wearing a shirt with a "rapist" on it, possibly referring to a Supreme Court Justice. Speaker 2 claims Speaker 0 is bringing hate to campus. Speaker 0 accuses others of hatred, citing name-calling. Speaker 2 alleges people have been assaulted because of Speaker 0's organization and that their organization's material was ripped down during student government elections. Speaker 0 claims that calling them a racist cheapens real racism. Speaker 0 denies enabling racists, and when asked to name one, Speaker 3 lists Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Ben Carson, and Stacey Dash. Speaker 0 questions how they can be racist if they hosted a young black leadership summit. Speaker 3 says Speaker 0 would stop being racist when they stop enabling racists. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 3 of making a racist statement and threatens to press charges after being assaulted.

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The speaker is asked to explain a discrepancy between their claim of being in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989 and reports that they didn't travel to Asia until August of that year. The speaker says they grew up in rural Nebraska, joined the National Guard at 17, and used the GI Bill to become a teacher. In the summer of 1989, they traveled to China and started a program taking basketball teams, baseball teams, and dancers back and forth to China to learn. They say their community knows who they are and that they have poured their heart into the community, while acknowledging they are not perfect. They claim to have been a bipartisan member of Congress and were elected governor twice. They admit to sometimes getting caught up in rhetoric. They say the experience in China made a difference in their life and that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips. When asked again about the discrepancy, the speaker says they misspoke and were in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest.

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Protests are still happening in major U.S. cities, but Speaker 0 is not seeing the same level of reporting as in the first few weeks. Speaker 1 asserts the protests are a movement and will not stop. Speaker 1 warns that the protests will continue before and after election day in November. Speaker 1 believes protestors should not let up, and neither should "we."

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At 21 years old, I walked into the Senate chamber and got arrested. Later, I tried to see Nelson Mandela in South Africa and got arrested again. I even met him once. The campaign says I wasn't arrested, but I couldn't move and was stopped by the cops. I didn't experience the struggles of historical figures like Douglass, Tubman, King, Lewis, Goodman, Chaney, and Swerner, but I walked my own path.

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Speaker 1 attempts to interview Speaker 2, who claims Speaker 1 says lies. Speaker 2 says they founded the Asylum Seeker Network of Support to fight US policy, which evolved into creating programs. Speaker 2 says Speaker 1 is there to take from them, while they stand as a community. Speaker 1 asks why pictures of children are being taken, citing trans flags and condoms on a table as inappropriate for children. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 2 of touching and stepping on them. Speaker 2 says Speaker 1 is not welcome. Speaker 1 claims they are being assaulted and asks why they were hit. Speaker 2 denies violence and asks for personal space. Speaker 1 accuses them of gaslighting and asks why coffee was thrown at them while covering the event.

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Speaker 0 says he went and hassled asked straightforward questions to Ted Cruz, describing Cruz as a sitting senator who was “serving for Israel by his own description,” and notes he isn’t targeting Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG) because she’s “the most sincere.” He questions why not go after Cruz. Speaker 1 recalls being a friend of MTG; she spoke at his conference, then “the day after, she pretended like she didn't know me,” describing a history that began in 2022. He explains views evolve as people interact with reality and as the reality of self changes, adding that now “everyone agrees with me,” and he would forgive hostility. He says he doesn’t know what MTG’s new views are, noting she’s come around on Israel “this year,” whereas he has spoken on the issue for ten years. He characterizes the past as “ BS” and claims he was treated as if he didn’t exist, canceled for ten years for discussing these topics, particularly during a time of intense censorship. Speaker 1 mentions MTG fired one of his staffers because someone found out a groiper was working in her office, and that person’s life was ruined; MTG allegedly knew exactly what the conference was, yet she pretended not to. He says the issue isn’t personal with MTG, but argues the past disagreement was because she was “on the other team.” Speaker 0 counters that many people were on different sides in the past and suggests the question is bigger than themselves, aiming to restore America for future generations. Speaker 0 adds a personal note: if Dave Rubin called to apologize for calling him “Hitler,” he would consider it meaningful, and he sees legitimate questions to consider. He emphasizes sincerity as central, stating he believes sincerity shows when someone’s heart is pure, and that Joe Kent appeared sincere despite not agreeing on everything, which led Speaker 0 to think Kent was a good person. However, Speaker 0 says Kent was later discredited as being a CIA officer (or contractor), which contradicted their impression, and he recalls showing each other a badge during a mutual suspicion moment. Speaker 1 recalls being disavowed by MTG for his views on Israel and criticized for talking about white people and Christianity, and notes that he worked with Blumenthal on an article while Speaker 0 had called him on the phone. Speaker 0 reflects that the exchange felt “inside baseball” and insists he was seeking a sincere politician, someone brave, regardless of full agreement. He cites Joe Kent as an example of sincerity despite disagreements, and recounts being surprised by Speaker 1’s later revelation that Kent’s CIA association changed his view of Kent.

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Speaker 0 admits being paid to say things in front of cameras, regrets supporting abortion, and reveals it was all an act. Speaker 1 acknowledges unethical behavior towards Speaker 0 and questions if Speaker 0 was playing them. The truth is revealed.

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The speaker always wanted to broadcast in their hometown. However, they became bothered by the media's direction, even before George Floyd, due to moral and ethical concerns. After George Floyd's death, mandates required that half of interviewees had to be non-white or from a protected class. CBS News allegedly prohibited using the term "riots" in reporting. The speaker feels blessed to be on the other side now. The other speaker believes the net effect was the death of many people and the destruction of an American city. They are bothered that it's been memory-holed and no one has been held accountable.

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The speaker claims they were a paid protester at a liberal protest on April 5th. To get paid, they had to find a woman with blue hair and a nose ring, avoid wearing MAGA gear or the color red, and participate in the march. Bringing a sign earned an extra $10, but it also had to align with the liberal agenda. The speaker's sign read, "Everyone deserves a good education." After the march, protesters had to complete a questionnaire with "right and wrong answers" to get paid. One question asked why Republicans want women to stay home. The speaker says they answered that it gives men more control due to women's financial dependence. Another question asked about critical race theory and why it should be taught. The speaker asked the organizer for help and was told it's about understanding the lasting effects of segregation and discrimination, like the inability of Black families to accumulate generational wealth through homeownership. The speaker was paid $100 for protesting and $10 for the sign.

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Speaker 0 confesses in a video that they were paid to pretend to protest at the Capitol building. They mention having difficulty pulling off the act and getting a bruise on their leg. Although they don't reveal who paid them, they mention it was part of an organized effort.

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Speaker 0 accuses the man of lying, noting he claims he only ever met him once while they had lived next to him for twenty-some years. Speaker 1 explains that, with his wife present, they apologized, left, and decided they will never be in the room with that disgusting person again—social, business, or philanthropy—because that guy was there. Speaker 0 adds that it’s a disgrace how this guy has a job today, calling him a proven liar advising the president of the United States every day, and says they’re done with these people.

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Speaker 0 admits being on the wrong side of history multiple times.

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Speaker 0 states they want Black businesses to survive and thrive and claims to do a ton for them. They cite their work with the Department of Transportation under Pete Buttigieg, saying they tried to insulate Black businesses from a "crazy regime" to ensure they could still get contracts for infrastructure projects. Speaker 0 also claims to have a great relationship with Black businesses in their community and works with the Black chamber of business. They invite Speaker 1's organization to join, but say they have to go and suggest calling their office. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of not having time for Black people and running away. Speaker 0 responds that they always have time, but the conversation is becoming too hostile, and they don't want to "pop off."

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I was involved in the civil rights movement as a high school kid, desegregating movie theaters and restaurants. I sat in black churches next to Jewish rabbis, preparing to desegregate movie theaters. Despite not actually marching, I remained engaged in civil rights causes since I was 18. Despite being reminded that I did not march, I continued to tell the story. This behavior is strange. Translation: I participated in civil rights activities as a teenager, desegregating establishments and sitting in churches. Even though I didn't physically march, I stayed committed to civil rights causes. Despite being reminded of this, I continued to share the story, which is odd.

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I was involved in the civil rights movement as a teenager, but not as an activist. Joe Biden made hurtful comments about racial jungle and opposed bussing. I confronted him in debates, but now we seem friendly. Not everyone criticized him like I did.

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Speaker 0 argues that conspiracy theories have been made to look like lunacy, noting that the Kennedy assassination popularized the term “conspiracy theorist.” He says it wasn’t widely used before Kennedy, but afterward it became a label for “kooks,” and he’s repeatedly been called that. Speaker 1 acknowledges this dynamic. He and Speaker 0 discuss what a conspiracy is—“more people working together to do something nefarious?”—and Speaker 0 asserts that conspiracies have always happened. He disputes the view that most conspiracies are due to ineptitude, insisting that when there is profit, power, control, and resources involved, most conspiracies, in fact, turn out to be true. He adds that the deeper you dig, the more you realize there’s a concerted effort to make conspiracies seem ridiculous so people won’t be seen as fools. Speaker 1 remarks on the ridicule as well, and Speaker 0 reiterates his own self-description: “I am a conspiracy theorist,” a “foolish person,” and “a professional clown.” He mocks the idea that being labeled foolish is a barrier, and reflects on how others perceive him. Speaker 0 then provides specific, provocative examples of conspiracies he believes are real: Gulf of Tonkin was faked to justify U.S. entry into Vietnam; production of heroin ramped up to 94% of the world’s supply once the U.S. occupied Afghanistan; and the CIA, in the United States, allegedly sold heroin or cocaine in Los Angeles ghettos to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He states clearly that these claims are real and asserts that there are conspiracy theorists who are “fucking real.” Speaker 1 pushes back on reputation and judgment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms his self-identification as a conspiracy theorist who faces mockery. Speaker 1 suggests that this stance might give him a “superpower.”

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Speaker 0 states that Jewish individuals own much of the media, fund politicians who demand reparations for the black community, and take the intellectual lead in combating initiatives proposed by the first group. Speaker 0 claims this results in black and white workers fighting each other while Jewish individuals profit and assume leadership. Speaker 1 agrees with Speaker 0, except for the claim that Jewish individuals profit. Speaker 1 believes Jewish leaders are doing what they think is correct. Speaker 1 states that Jewish individuals tend to take the intellectual lead in most movements. Speaker 0 claims that Jewish individuals create issues, and that the issue of reparations didn't exist until created by Jewish individuals. Speaker 1 is inclined to agree, and says Jewish individuals take the lead in civil rights generally. Speaker 0 claims they take the lead in opposing them, creating issues and dividing people.
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