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Based on evidence, the speaker believes that the beings in question are not aliens but have always been present and are of a spiritual nature. They acknowledge that this belief cannot be proven but is based on the available evidence. The speaker also suggests that the US government may have had direct contact with these beings and entered into an agreement with them, although this claim cannot be conclusively verified. The possibility of these beings being interdimensional is mentioned, along with the question of whether they could be described as angels or demons. The speaker emphasizes that good and evil forces exist and influence human actions, even though the nature of these forces is open to conjecture. They suggest that these forces exist in a spiritual realm that is unseen, making one reflect on the idea of living in an ant farm.

We communicate telepathically with various entities, including a highly evolved reptilian race that matured on Earth and now serves God. These beings, referred to as the Tili, are often associated with the ancient concept of watchers in the Book of Daniel and the Seraphim in Isaiah. The Seraphim, who praise God, are misinterpreted as "burning ones," but the Hebrew term used does not support this translation. Instead, they are clearly identified as reptilian entities, which Moses referenced in the Book of Numbers. These beings are considered benevolent.

Based on evidence, the speaker believes that unidentified beings are not aliens, but spiritual entities that have always been here. The speaker believes the U.S. government has had direct contact and agreements with these beings. The speaker posits that there is good and evil, and people are constantly acted upon by forces outside themselves. These non-human forces exist in a spiritual realm and influence human actions, suggesting humans live in an "ant farm."

We are not alone, as confirmed by high-level sources. The phenomenon has been observed for centuries, evolving from historical accounts to modern UFO sightings. The term "extraterrestrial" is used by those handling the material. The phenomenon may manifest differently over time, from medieval witch sightings to modern alien abductions. Reports of similar objects throughout history suggest a consistent presence. The origin of these phenomena remains unknown, with some manifestations appearing as non-corporeal entities like orbs. This suggests a potential interdimensional or cryptic nature.

In 1963, we learned about relationships with two extraterrestrial civilizations that view us as a developing world, assessing our potential for joining a galactic federation. Despite ongoing conflicts, these beings encourage us to move beyond nuclear weapons and war. After retiring from the army in 1976, I had face-to-face encounters with them, who resembled us but never disclosed their origins. This experience shattered my previous worldview, revealing that humanity is part of a vast community of intelligent life. Evidence of their presence includes sightings over cities and photographs of large alien crafts, including those taken by Apollo 13 and Voyager, showing artificial objects in the rings of Saturn, indicating advanced technology.

I remember waking up and there was across from me literally hundreds of cages, and there were children, small children in these cages, and they were all attached. They were in such tremendous pain that they were really tremendous pain. It was a darker energy because the children were being tortured. She's absorbing the energy from the children, and I survived it. But a lot of the children in there didn't survive it. When was this what age were you? What is this? I was, like, seven years old when this happened. You were one of those children. I was one of the children that survived electric shocks. Now they were also had sort of out of my body, but I could hear and I could see, but it was, like, a far away sort of thing because I was dissociated really bad. And then I remember that I could hear them speaking, and they were gonna take this energy, and they were gonna put it on food. They were gonna throw this dark energy on food. So whoever eats the food would also be they would be charmed, they would be energetically parasitically linked, and they would be depressed in all sorts of this energy works on the negative emotions. It absorbs it. It likes it. And into the water. That's the pollution of the water. Everybody knows that the human body is made mostly of water. Well, it's programmable. Water's programmable. The thing is is if you mess with the water and pollute the water and then the people drink that or it rains down or they swim in it or they get in it, obviously, effect on them and lots of different effects on them. So they're all they're what they try they're trying to do is they're trying to pretty much pollute everybody in the world to the where they don't know what's going on anymore. Even if you awaken one. A hard touching memory I have is that I was in space, and I could see this black goo or this black smoke encompass Earth. It just like smoke incapacitate. It even come inside the galaxy. Yes. It comes from somewhere else from what I understand. It comes from somewhere else. I'm I'm still trying to figure that It puts you in amnesia also. I've noticed that the more that you start you don't remember. It puts you in amnesia. I noted when I was small, I would see on people. People who were I would see on people who abuse their children. I would see on murderers. I would see on all sorts of people. People when they were very negative, I would see on them. And it would express I I had instances where I would talk to somebody, and then they would say certain words. And then I go down the re road and talk to somebody else, and they would continue the conversation because it was that same energy speaking to these people that it had hacked into. Speaker 1: Syrian Arabic. Speaker 0: How clever? Jesus. Honey, is this some True what I said, though. I do know who you are. Azizel. Where'd you get that? Speaker 1: From Elano's place? You found something up there. Speaker 0: Well, some things, pal. You shouldn't know. Like what? And if you know, you should never ever tell. Beware my wrath.

Speaker 0: That's one thing I want to share with you. The other thing is this. I've had a lot of questions over the years about this, but I had a couple more just in the last two weeks regarding the question, what happens when you die? I have emails to get to you with folks who have been really busy just trying to hold things together myself. Okay? But I’ll get to your emails here in the next week. When you die, you have choices. You don’t know this, but you have choices. When you leave your physical body, it is very typical for you to see yourself standing next to your body with either your loved ones or EMTs or whatever the circumstances are. And you see yourself, and then you’ll hear a voice. You’ll see the tunnel of light, and a voice will be calling you, or you will hear the voice telepathically telling you to come on. Come. You know? Now as you stand there and you’re looking at the tunnel of light, you have a choice. You can go up to this tunnel of light where you’ll be with other loved ones that have crossed over usually. Alright? And you’ll be put into a system where you are essentially caught in a reincarnational cycle, a loop. Or you can turn around, put the tunnel of light behind you, and what you will see is the entire universe. If you choose to go to the universe instead of the tunnel of light, whatever dimension you came from when you came down here to Earth, k, we’ll keep it all present present time and place. Earth, whether it was sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth density, whatever it was, if you choose the universe and you say to yourself, I wish to go home, you will return to that dimension from which you came. So if it’s five, six, seven, or eight, you will leave here and you will go back to that dimension where I am told you’ll be reunited with your soul group because we’re multidimensional. We’re in many places at once. I’ve never shared this information before. Speaker 1: I heard that when we die, we should not go to the light as it is a trick to recapture our soul to rebirth on earth. Is that true? Speaker 0: That’s what I was told. Vesias was very specific. He said, you of course can choose to do whatever you want but none of you ever turn around and look what’s behind you. And when I asked, well, what is behind me? He said, freedom. Freedom of Earth. Freedom of the reincarnational cycle.

Jorge Pabon, known on air as JP, reveals his identity on national television after decades in shadow. He describes a career in the United States Army focused on special classified UFO and space programs, including work related to moon bases and underground ocean bases. He states his full name, rank, and service details, sharing documents (redacted in parts) to verify his background: he was a 91 Juliet quartermaster of chemical repairs, dealing with water purification, and he also served as a translator in the Army. He explains he knew three languages (Spanish, Portuguese, and another) and that he was a paratrooper attached to the 7th Special Forces Group, though not a Green Beret. He clarifies his rank as E-4 during that period. Discharge and disclosures: Pabon left the Army in August of the previous year. He signed non-disclosure agreements, with certain restrictions remaining; he has received a “green light” to talk about some topics from contacts connected to Washington, though the channels and specifics are not fully disclosed. He notes growing calls for disclosure, including videos and officers’ testimonies, and he anticipates more soldiers like him coming forward in documentaries about their experiences. Prior encounters and witnesses: Before enlisting, Pabon was approached by individuals in tactical gear who urged him to take photographs of unusual aircraft (including TR-3B-type triangular craft). He was repeatedly approached by “white hats” who told him when to look up and photograph ships. He faced two opposing forces: one encouraging disclosure and another urging secrecy or intimidation; at times he and his family were pressured or harassed as a consequence of his disclosures. He states that hundreds of thousands of soldiers worldwide have seen similar phenomena and that others in his network are cautious about coming forward due to security and spiritual implications. UFO sightings and military projects: Pabon describes a range of experiences, including a significant pre-military sightings period with cigar-shaped craft observed in Tampa and Orlando, often near helicopters. He sent photographs to Dr. Michael E. Sala and other outlets; the Tampa Bay Times and others discussed his work without naming him. He recalls being approached by both supporters and suppressors of disclosure, with some encounters including armed individuals in tactical gear who questioned or escorted him. Underwater arcs and extraterrestrial bases: A central claim is the existence of massive, ancient arc ships—underwater “arcs” or cities—scattered around the world, including near Bermuda, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, near India, and Antarctica. He describes arcs as immense, city-like structures with multiple levels, capable of movement between air and water, and reportedly housing diverse personnel from multiple nations and even other species. He asserts the arcs are ancient, far more advanced than current human technology, and contain departments for different regions (e.g., Pacific arcs). These bases purportedly facilitate collaboration among humans and various extraterrestrial groups, including Nordics and other beings. Transportation and operations: Missions to arcs involve multi-branch and international collaboration, with personnel from the Army, Navy, and other services, sometimes deployed via Osprey, Black Hawk, or C-130 aircraft, to water-adjacent sites where ships lower into the water and reveal arc facilities. He describes landing on a navy-type ship that houses arcs and can extend underwater; ducts and elevators move personnel to arc interiors with unfamiliar materials and technologies. He emphasizes that the arcs are self-contained bases with the ability to move rapidly underwater. Beings and contact: Pabon reports encounters with Nordics, “ant people” (ant-like beings with large eyes and distinctive hair-like projections), and occasional gray entities observed at distance. He claims some beings can change appearance to blend with humans. He suggests a hierarchical structure among ETs, with Nordics involved in training or coordinating certain activities with human forces, including pilots and Artemis Accord participants. He links interdimensional and spiritual dimensions to the phenomena, describing experiences of consciousness, presence, and a sense of ships as living or alive. Personal perspective and beliefs: He discusses the intersection of faith and ufology, noting his Christian background and the complexity of interpreting these experiences as spiritual or demonic, but maintaining openness to a broad spectrum of phenomena, including interdimensional aspects and ancient AI-like technologies. He mentions the Monroe Institute and gateway experiences as contextual references for understanding interdimensional communication. He asserts a belief that the United States has access to advanced technologies—potentially borrowed through collaboration with Nordics and other groups—and that global cooperation among nations is part of these programs. Locations and additional claims: In addition to Puerto Rico, Bermuda, and Atlantic sites, Pabon mentions Antarctica as a locus of high technology and space-relevant radio-frequency systems. He references Alabama as a site where Nordics allegedly trained pilots connected to Artemis Accord activities. He recounts Brazil as an early personal contact point where an arc allegedly appeared near Cardos Novas, leading to a transformative personal experience. He claims a Brazilian arc has been publicly recognized as the Arc of Brazil. Closing perspective: The interview underscores a belief that disclosure may occur in phases, with multiple arcs and interactions across nations and a variety of ET groups. Pabon emphasizes the personal risks he and his family have faced, the complexity of the network surrounding disclosure, and his hope that public exposure will advance understanding of these phenomena.

I'm passing on what I've learned to you, things I've learned from my life experience, waking up the American people, and all the letters and people I've talked to. What do you believe about America? Are you helping to divide us or bring us together? Do you really understand what this country is all about? I saw a massive disc-shaped craft emerge from the ocean, defying our known physics. After reporting it, we were debriefed and warned to remain silent. This event started me on a lifelong quest into extraterrestrial life, government cover-ups, and secret societies. I released "The Secret Government" to protect myself. I also saw top-secret documents about alien agreements and a secret space program. Later, I realized that what I was witnessing might be our own government's creations, tested at Area 51. I shifted my focus towards government studies. I synthesized my research into "Behold a Pale Horse," explaining how ancient mystery schools secretly control the world, across different nationalities and religions.

We have lost contact with the divine, whether you call it spirit, anima mundi, or the holy spirit. Many people only understand the material world, so the divine communicates through physical manifestations. This includes experiences like UFO sightings, which provide tangible evidence that resonates with our understanding. While some individuals may have spiritual revelations, most rely on empirical proof. The appearance of these phenomena in the physical realm captures the attention of those who typically dismiss spiritual experiences, as it aligns with their need for concrete evidence. This communication from the spirit world speaks to us in a language we recognize: the physical.

Speaker 0: There have been briefings to Congress that lead us to believe there is definitely an advanced technology out there that's not created by mankind. Speaker 1: About a decade ago I revealed on Joe Rogan that from my research in the Global Sun Admissions, aliens don’t come from distant star systems—they come interdimensionally. We have limited sight across our normal light spectrum and into other dimensions. I’ve spoken to high-level Pentagon people, CIA, scientists, physicists, who’ve said it’s an interdimensional invasion. The Bible and other ancient religions reference an unseen presence entering our universe, our domain, our dimension. There’s a clip of her on Fox News Friday night saying it’s interdimensional, but classified. A craft will show up 100 miles away instantly or fly Mach 20 and make a perfect turn—things that would crush solid stainless steel due to gravity. So we know they’re interdimensionally jumping. Now Trump talks about a big reveal; Obama says aliens are real. This isn’t just about UFOs—it's part of a broader awakening. It’s a distraction from Epstein, perhaps, but Trump said after reelection he’d disclose, and there’s a report due. Disclosure is happening on many fronts. We’re focused on UFOs and extraterrestrials, not taking away from exposing Epstein. There’s a lot of disclosure and crazy stuff happening on every front. Speaker 2: He (the other speaker) gave classified information and wasn’t supposed to. Speaker 1: Aliens are real? He gave classified information, whether they’re real or not. Speaker 3: Hours later, the president posted on Truth Social directing the release of government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life and UFOs. We bring in Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee Task Force on declassification of federal secrets. She has said there is evidence of interdimensional beings that can operate through the time spaces we have. You told Joe Rogan you’ve viewed evidence of interdimensional beings on Earth that operate through time spaces—can you explain? Speaker 0: Yes. In classified briefings we’ve seen evidence suggesting advanced technology not created by mankind. There are videos, including one where a UAP deflects a Hellfire missile, taken from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Some physics defy explanation; not the only government to examine this. I view it through national security: are these technologies adversarial weapons or not? The federal government denying access to Congress is alarming in a free society. We expect the American people to decide after reviewing the evidence. Gates has said that if you’ve seen what we’ve seen, you’ll believe it too. Speaker 3: So you’re saying the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings? Is it because we or others have advanced technology, or because a foreign actor has abilities beyond our understanding? Speaker 0: Based on our interviews and testimony, we have reason to believe this tech is not created by mankind. It’s possible there are advanced US weapons denied access to the public. Unelected bureaucrats denying access to Congress is problematic, and there have been whistleblower threats and even deaths discussed in testimony. There’s bipartisan momentum toward disclosure, and we’ll continue to explore with the American people. President Obama’s remarks and Trump’s anticipated declassification are fueling this process. Speaker 1: The elite seek transcendence and to know the secrets of the universe; some are good, some bad, some mixed. Einstein and Planck suggest multiple dimensions; top scientists and billionaires are now speaking of a false hologram, artificial constraints, and gravity bleeding into this universe, with dark matter as a sign of something deeper. Some say we’re in a computer-generated projection, a thought or dream in a programmer’s mind. There’s talk of a sub-transmission zone below the third dimension fighting to ascend. Some believe humanity is at a fifth or sixth dimension intellectually, while a war rages to determine whether humanity will advance or be controlled by a breakaway civilization merging with machines. Google and others allegedly contemplated building a giant artificial system—a hive-mind AI connected to billions of people—that could predict and influence the future, potentially erasing individual free will. A counterstrike is underway to block such systems and promote genuine debate about humanity’s path, including addressing alleged pedophiles and “psychic vampires” in control of AI before humanity is harmed. The interdimensional force behind these developments is said to grant advanced knowledge to certain groups, sometimes described in religious terms as Satan. There’s more to come as disclosures unfold, including anticipated declassification next week when Trump allegedly releases UFO files. Speaker 3: We’ll be watching and covering it next week as disclosure unfolds.

Demons are among us, an intergalactic invasion through people. The ancients warned of this, and it's what we face now. These interdimensional invaders are not human, despite what some may say.

Ich sehe manchmal die energetische Form von Menschen, also ihr Bewusstsein, unabhhängig vom Tagesbewusstsein. Es gibt lichtvolle Seelen und auch andere, anders aussehende Inkarnationen. English translation: Sometimes when I look at people, I see their energetic form, their consciousness, separate from their daily consciousness. There are lightful souls and also other incarnations that look different.

There is no evidence that these beings are aliens from another planet. The speaker believes they have always been here and that the US government has had direct contact with them. They find this disturbing but understand why the government keeps it secret. The speaker thinks there is more to this than just having pieces of their crafts and believes there is a spiritual component involved. The Vatican has been involved in this for over a century. The speaker suggests that the truth is even wilder than what is commonly believed.

I heard rumors about the Psilonix team attempting to interface human brains with certain technologies. I wasn't involved in those experiments, but I picked up some hearsay during my time at ATIP. It makes sense considering the government's interest in individuals like Chris Bledsoe; if they could summon such people at will, it would provide a significant advantage. I've had strange experiences in my life that leave me questioning whether they were mere coincidences or something more orchestrated. It's certainly within the realm of possibility.

Based on evidence, the speaker believes that supposed aliens have always been here and are spiritual entities. If the US government has made agreements with these beings, it is a very heavy thing. The speaker believes there are forces that are not human that exist in a spiritual realm of some kind that we cannot see. The speaker believes that there is good and evil, and we are being acted upon at all times. People are moved to do things that are better or more evil than they actually are, and are subject to forces from outside themselves.

I believe aliens have been present for 75 years, with countless witnesses and interactions, even flying over the White House. They are not visible through telescopes, but their existence is undeniable. I don't think they walk among us, but acknowledging their presence requires an open mind and curiosity.

Demons are invading Earth through people, as the Bible foretold. Ancient warnings are coming true. These interdimensional invaders are not human, despite mockery from the media. Everyone instinctively knows the truth.

I used to live in Las Vegas and had a neighbor, a drunk ex-military guy, who claimed to have worked at Area 51. One night during a power outage, he pointed out Orion's belt and said the good aliens lived on one star while the bad aliens lived on another. He described the good aliens as small, gray beings and the bad ones as tall, brown, and smelly. When I asked how UFOs traveled, he said they ran on electricity gathered in space and could open a void to move quickly, almost like falling into themselves. I was skeptical but intrigued. I once saw something in the Mojave Desert that moved much faster than a plane, making me wonder about UFOs. If this is true and I’ve revealed government secrets, I hope they don’t come after me.

I believe in the existence of angels and demons, and their influence is becoming more apparent to those who are aware. Demons are becoming bolder in our society, infiltrating various aspects of our lives. On the other hand, we are the angels, sentient beings with a direct connection to God. They try to suppress this knowledge through chemicals, fear, and other means. It's time to wake up and realize our power. By coming together and focusing on goodness, love, and compassion, we can manifest positive change. We must unite, regardless of our differences, to create a world without war and famine. We are here to fight and resist evil. Stay true to yourself and resist.