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I find it hard to believe the story about the recent events in Israel. The country is heavily fortified and surveilled, with IDF soldiers everywhere. However, there were protests against Bibi Netanyahu's actions, and now he has an emergency government. While I'm not saying Netanyahu knew about the incident, some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order for 6 hours? It's hard to believe considering the country's size. The IDF is everywhere, so it's legitimate to question if someone in the government told them to stand down.

- How did these guys not know this was taking place? The whole country is a fortress. - I've been to that Gaza border. You you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun that's an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled. - The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. - Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. - When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's forty five minutes. - They're live streaming the killing of Jews. - Was did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate, non conspiracy question.

On October 7th, many Israelis were killed by the IDF, not Hamas. The Hannibal doctrine involves killing Israelis to prevent them from being captured by terrorists. This is done to avoid paying a high price for hostages. Evidence suggests this doctrine is used in Israel, which some consider murder.

Israel's military is accused of shelling its own citizens during a surprise attack by Hamas on October 7. Testimonies from Israeli witnesses suggest that the military killed its own people while trying to neutralize Palestinian gunmen. Desperation led commanders to make difficult decisions, including shelling houses with occupants to eliminate terrorists and hostages. The military even requested an aerial strike on its own facility to repulse the terrorists. Evidence points to orders from high command to attack areas inside Israel, regardless of the cost in Israeli lives. This tactic, known as the Hannibal directive, aims to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces, even if it means harming their own forces.

Speaker 0 states that “this right here was always the plan from day zero, and they just told us,” signaling that the plan has been in motion from the beginning and that the participants were informed about it. Speaker 1 asks the group to explain the plan in detail: how much it will cost, where the money will come from, and who will reward the contracts. The question centers on funding sources, cost, and accountability for contracts. Speaker 2 responds by saying the money-raising part is “the easy part,” but emphasizes that the real focus is the master plan. They say they are working with a group of people who have been developing master plans for two years, implying a long preexisting framework behind the project. They assert that “we have plans already. We have a master plan already,” and mention that Jared has been pushing this and that they are working together on it. They claim that if the world saw the progress so far, they would be impressed. Speaker 0 interjects with a clarification question about the two-year timeline, noting a perceived gap in the explanation and pressing for details on what was being done during that period. Speaker 3 explains the timing more specifically: the material was filmed before October 7 and released later, indicating that the planning had been underway prior to that date. They suggest that this means “they were working on the plans before October 7.” Speaker 0 adds, “So that means that everything else was a script that they already wanted to implement the whole time,” implying that prior material or discourse could have been designed to align with the planned actions. Speaker 3 references Charlie Kirk and asks, “Was there a stand down order?” This raises a question about whether a directive to halt actions existed. Speaker 0 questions the existence of a stand-down order, asserting that “Israel’s the side of new size New Jersey,” then shares a personal observation from a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, noting the distance as forty-five minutes, and mentions that “Six hours. They’re live streaming the killing of Jews.” They pose the question of whether someone in the government ordered a stand-down. Speaker 3 notes that “the sixty minute episode aired on October 19,” and that the material “was filmed immediately after October 7.” They add that the filming occurred “days after the Israel cease fire deal completion, October 10.” Speaker 0 reiterates the sequence by summarizing that the events were filmed immediately after October 7 and occurred in the days following the cease-fire agreement on October 10.

On October 7th, a major attack occurred in Israel, where thousands of Gazans invaded and killed Israelis, taking hostages. There are suspicions that this was an inside job due to various reasons. The Israeli government confiscated weapons from security teams in Gaza Belt communities, ignored warnings of increased tensions on the border, and removed army protection. Additionally, there are allegations that international media outlets had advanced knowledge of the attack. The response from the military and government was slow, with helicopter and attack pilots waiting for orders for six hours. Many believe this was not just negligence, but sabotage from within. The government is now threatening to arrest those who criticize their actions.

The truth about what happened on October 7th is emerging from the Israeli media and public. Footage from Apache helicopters shows them attacking people and vehicles at a music festival near the Gaza refugee camp. Many casualties were Israeli military and security forces, as confirmed by the Israeli media. It is also suggested that some were killed by Israeli armed elements in pursuit of the Hannibal doctrine. However, claims of rapes and 40 beheaded babies are false. Only one baby died, and the responsible party remains unclear. These lies have fueled a genocide, and those who continue to spread them have much to answer for.

These guys not know this was taking place. So I've been in Israel many times. The whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier. Right? The whole country is surveilled. But I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the side of new sides New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's forty five minutes. Six hours. They're live streaming the killing of Jews.

Israeli soldiers shot and killed hostages holding a white flag. Orders were to shoot every man of fighting age, not the official rules of engagement. The battalion or brigade commander interpreted orders differently from IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv.

There are credible reports suggesting that the Israeli army may be responsible for the deaths of Israelis on October 7. The lack of discipline and training among Israeli forces led to an ineffective response to the hostage situation orchestrated by Hamas. The Hannibal Directive, which advocates killing Israeli hostages instead of negotiating for their release, also played a role. The incident took place during an outrageous music festival near a concentration camp, which has sparked widespread criticism. Hamas achieved its objective of putting the issue of Palestinian self-determination back on the global agenda, gaining popularity among Palestinians. The violence in Gaza raises moral questions about Israeli oppression and Palestinian resistance. Israel's actions will tarnish its reputation and erode its protection against charges of anti-Semitism.

Hamas kidnappers eliminated everyone, including the hostages, during intense gunfire exchanges. I was released at 5:30 am, and the fighting ended at 8:30 am. The small kibbutz house was targeted with tank shells, resulting in the death of everyone present. The gunfire exchanges caused their deaths. It's possible that our forces were responsible, but I believe they didn't mistreat us.

Hamas militants had been preparing for the October 7th attack on Israel for years, as shown in training videos posted on social media. These videos, similar to the actual attacks, depicted blowing up fences, raiding military bases, taking hostages, and using white pickup trucks in organized convoys. The joint room coalition, led by Hamas, conducted annual training exercises in Gaza, with one location just 2 miles from the Israeli border crossing. Despite the warnings and evidence of these tactics, Israeli officials seemed to have ignored or missed them. The attacks on October 7th were the deadliest in Israel's history, with militants breaching the border fence and invading Israeli Defense Forces bases, taking hostages and causing significant damage.

On October 7th, a number of Israelis were killed by the IDF, not Hamas. This is not surprising considering the difficulty of distinguishing between fighters in such situations. The Hannibal doctrine is different. It claims that if an Israeli soldier or citizen is at risk of being captured by Hamas or another terrorist group, the IDF will kill them to prevent hostage situations. The rationale behind this is that Israel values human life so highly that they would pay a high price to secure the release of hostages. There is evidence supporting the existence of this doctrine in Israel. Some may consider it murder.

Unit 8200 had detailed knowledge of Hamas' attack 3 weeks in advance but ignored it. The leaked document outlined Hamas' plan to breach the security wall and take hostages, matching the actual events on October 7. Blame has been shifted among officials, including Netanyahu, who blamed intelligence heads for failing to detect the attack. An investigation is ongoing, but parts related to Unit 8200 have been suspended. The battle to assign responsibility for the attack continues. Translation: Unit 8200 had prior knowledge of Hamas' attack but did not act. Blame is being shifted among officials, including Netanyahu. An investigation is ongoing, but parts related to Unit 8200 have been suspended. The battle to assign responsibility for the attack continues.

The discussion centers on whether Netanyahu's government is in serious trouble and what recent developments suggest about Israeli politics and the Gaza situation. - Protests and public sentiment in Israel: Proponents point to large weekly protests in Tel Aviv against Netanyahu, noting claims of “massive protests” that have drawn thousands, with some saying a quarter of a million previously. The speakers emphasize that demonstrations before October 7 indicated substantial opposition to Netanyahu, including calls for a commission of inquiry into corruption and judicial overreach. They also acknowledge a shift after October 7, with Netanyahu attempting to build a coalition and currently holding about 65 of 120 seats, suggesting he remains in power. One speaker asserts that protests are used politically, while acknowledging their scale in the center of Israel. - Netanyahu’s political standing and coalition: The speakers describe Netanyahu as facing multiple felony charges related to corruption and note his history of coalition-building with smaller parties. They argue that war and conflict are used domestically to unite the population and distract from corruption allegations. They suggest Netanyahu’s government is the most extreme right-wing in Israel’s history, with two cabinet ministers having felony convictions for anti-Arab hate crimes and holding key security and finance roles. The prognosis offered is that Netanyahu is not likely to be removed from power soon, potentially leading through 2030. - Funds to Hamas via Qatar before October 7: A new report from the Tel Aviv newspaper Idiot “Iranath” states that Israel asked Qatar to increase funds transferred to Hamas in Gaza less than a month before October 7. The claim is that Netanyahu-era officials knew the money would enable Hamas to divert funds to arms and military preparedness, and that Hamas was exploiting Qatar’s civilian aid to strengthen its military capabilities. The discussion emphasizes that Israel funds Hamas indirectly through Qatar, and that nothing entering Gaza happens without Israeli knowledge or approval. - Stand-down orders and the October 7 attack: The conversation discusses Israeli stand-down orders and the protests among IDF soldiers about the events of October 7. There is an assertion that some young women in IDF outposts were put at risk, with questions about what the government knew and whether it allowed certain actions. The speakers describe a view that the Israeli military and political leadership may have been complicit or negligent regarding operations on October 7, including claims about attempted obfuscation of investigations and the Hannibal directive. - CIA, John Kiriakou, and past U.S. behavior: The dialogue references CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, noting his exposure of the Bush torture program and contrasting U.S. actions with Israeli policies. John Kiriakou comments on his experiences in the Middle East, including an anecdote about discussions in Riyadh in 1991 regarding Gaza’s infrastructure, and he asserts that Netanyahu’s government is deeply integrated with actions surrounding Hamas. - Prospects for accountability and investigations: The speakers express strong doubt about a credible investigation into October 7, arguing that Israel is in “survival mode” and that Netanyahu will not be imprisoned. They describe proposed commission arrangements as potentially whitewashing, with Netanyahu seeking to appoint some members himself, and they predict that the investigation is unlikely to be thorough or independent. - Summary stance: The discussion presents Netanyahu as politically resilient despite corruption charges, with a broad right-wing coalition and ongoing protests. It underscores the interconnections between Israeli funding structures for Hamas through Qatar, the alleged stand-downs surrounding October 7, and perceived obstacles to a transparent, independent accountability process.

The speaker claims the Israeli military implemented the Hannibal directive on October 7th, resulting in the deaths of 100 Israelis. This directive, initially developed in Lebanon, involves killing Israeli captives to prevent them from being taken by the other side. The speaker alleges this has been acknowledged by figures within the Israeli Air Force and revealed by an Al Jazeera investigation. The speaker accuses Israel of bombing cars containing civilians and killing its own captives, citing scared Israeli prisoners released from Gaza. They claim a rise in Palestinian prisoners being tortured, including instances of rape, with perpetrators celebrated in Israeli society. The speaker asserts Israel has a greater chance of returning hostages through negotiation rather than airstrikes. The speaker calls for the end of Zionism, which they say has dispossessed, disempowered, and killed people on an industrial scale, maintaining a large population of Palestinian refugees. They argue that Israel has lost the war in Gaza and will lose in Lebanon because it has more enemies than ever before and more people are critical of Zionism. They also state that the Likud charter calls for the obliteration of Palestine. The speaker accuses Rupert Murdoch's News Corp International of funding illegal settlements through its charitable arm, the Jerusalem Foundation, and funding Benjamin Netanyahu's political campaign.

Natuurlijk is het vreselijk wat er op 7 september is gebeurd, maar de meeste slachtoffers vielen door het IDF zelf, volgens het Hannibal Directive. Er zijn Israëlische getuigen en documentaires die dit bevestigen. Piloten uit helikopters hebben dit doorgegeven. Het Hannibal Directive en de verwoestingen aan kibboetsen zijn door het IDF veroorzaakt. Dit is breed uitgemeten in de media, inclusief publicaties in Harreets. --- Of course, what happened on September 7th is terrible, but most of the victims were killed by the IDF itself, according to the Hannibal Directive. There are Israeli witnesses and documentaries that confirm this. Helicopter pilots have relayed this information. The Hannibal Directive and the destruction of kibbutzim were caused by the IDF. This has been widely reported in the media, including publications in Harreets.

Turns out that shortly before this attack, the government had ordered the removal of all military presence from that area. Hamas was literally given a free pass to enter and start their operation. Israeli defense forces that were supposed to be around Gaza were placed around the West Bank because of security concerns so that the the Gaza envelope was left unoccupied with military. They say around 60 to 80% of that area was left without the IDF forces that were supposed to be there. A year ago, there was a military operation in Gaza to prepare for such events, and ongoingly there are trainings for these kind of scenarios. What happened? Two years ago, there was a successful deployment of underground barriers with sensors to alert exactly on these kind of terrorist breaches. There's no way in my view that Israel did not know of what's coming.

These guys not know this was taking place. So I've been in Israel many times. The whole country's a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun. That's an IDF soldier. Right? The whole country is surveilled. But I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the side of new sides of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's forty five minutes. Six hours. They're live streaming the killing of Jews.

Hamas kidnappers eliminated everyone, including the hostages, due to intense gunfire exchanges. I was released at around 5:30 am, while the fighting ended at 8:30 am. The small kibbutz house, as seen on the news, was targeted with tank shells, resulting in the death of everyone inside. The gunfire exchanges caused their deaths. It's possible that our forces were involved, but I don't believe they mistreated us.

- Shortly before the attack, the government allegedly ordered the removal of all military presence from the area, giving Hamas a “free pass” to enter and begin their operation. In the following videos, former Israeli Defense Force (IDF) members warn that something very concerning is happening in Israel. - Afat Fenningzon reports, dated 10/07/2023, that Israeli defense forces around Gaza were instead positioned around the West Bank due to security concerns, leaving the Gaza envelope unoccupied. He says about 60 to 80% of that area was left without IDF forces. He notes that a year earlier there was a Gaza operation to prepare for such events, and ongoing trainings for these scenarios exist. This raises questions about Israeli intelligence: two years ago there were successful deployments of underground barriers with sensors to alert on terrorist breaches, yet there was zero response to the border and fence breaching. He emphasizes that Israel has a highly advanced military and questions how there could be no indication of what was coming, given that a cat moving near a fence would trigger forces. He asks, “What happened to the strongest army in the world? How come border crossings were wide open?” He describes the chain of events as very unusual and not typical for the Israeli defense system. He calls the current government highly corrupt and asserts the previous one was no better, stating his goal is to expose evil forces. He characterizes the surprise attack as seemingly a planned operation on all fronts and, if he were a conspiracy theorist, would say it feels like the work of the deep state. He suggests the people of Israel and the people of Palestine have been sold to “higher powers,” acknowledging how difficult the reality is to fathom. - Speaker 2 questions how the strongest army and the most sophisticated intelligence in the world could allow a few hundred Hamas fighters to enter Israel and cause the attack, while Hamas fighters did not meet any Israeli resistance in the area. He asserts it is not logical and implies there is more behind it, suggesting Israel sacrificed its own people and civilians on the Gaza border, removed protection and the army, and allowed Hamas to carry out their actions. He reiterates that Israel has the most sophisticated intelligence and a strong army, yet such an incursion occurred, implying hidden mechanisms or plans at work.

The Israeli military doesn't have a clear number of casualties, but soldiers describe seeing babies with their heads cut off and families gunned down in their beds. Fighting recently ended in the community, and some Israeli bodies remain. Troops are going house to house, encountering grenades and booby traps. The area is littered with bodies of terrorists; a lead commander estimates 70 armed terrorists came from the Gaza border. They used guns, grenades, and knives, targeting civilians in their homes. Soldiers are committed to killing every terrorist in the area. Artillery fire is constant due to the proximity to the Gaza Strip. Soldiers want the press to witness the situation on the ground.

Rocket fire alarms are going off in Tel Aviv, and distressing images from Israeli Television show the aftermath of the liberation of a Kibbutz from Hamas. The Israeli commander reported finding the bodies of 40 babies, some with their heads severed. The details of these atrocities are difficult to comprehend.

Apache helicopter gunships fired on cars driving towards Gaza, with pilots reportedly aware some vehicles carried captives. Some pilots allegedly joined local WhatsApp groups to help select targets due to a lack of guidance. At least 70 vehicles were hit by attack helicopters. Concerns were raised about engaging targets without proper identification, with one person stating it's impossible to distinguish between Hamas gunmen, civilians, or hostages from the helicopter. Firing big rounds into a group of people will likely kill everyone, knowingly putting civilians at risk.