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The speaker discusses claims about the Nazi regime’s treatment of Jewish bodies in death. They recount that Himmler, outraged by propaganda about soap, issued an order that under no circumstances could a Jewish body be used for anything other than burial or cremation. The point is made that this instruction was a top-down directive, and that the dead were to be treated with strict reverence, with no body parts to be repurposed. The speaker notes that these statements run counter to the well-known rumors about using Jewish bodies to manufacture soap, lampshades, or other products. The implication is that such sensational claims were not permitted to occur, as an official prohibition was in place. The claim is that there was an SS investigation into a Buchenwald commander for alleged misdeeds related to the treatment of inmates, including extreme abuses that would implicate illegal activities with bodies or embezzlement and murder. It is stated that the Buchenwald commander was executed, but not for the alleged attempts to turn inmates’ bodies into soap or other items. Instead, the commander was executed for killing inmates who were whistleblowers and for embezzlement, while the speakers maintain that this was supposed to be in line with mainstream Nazi policy to turn Jews into soap and similar acts. The speaker emphasizes that the order was from the top down, forbidding such activities, and that those who violated it would be prosecuted mercilessly and executed. The narrative then asserts that the policy or order to stop such practices was halted by the end of the war, as many cases could not be prosecuted any longer. In sum, the speaker presents a picture of an official prohibition against the desecration or exploitation of dead bodies, contrasted with sensational rumors, and notes that prosecutions could not be pursued to completion as the war ended.

Eva Braun and Adolf Hitler had met when she was just 17 and she worked as an assistant to the photographer Heinrich Hoffmann, who went on to become Hitler's personal cameraman. Hitler and Braun became lovers in 1932. Now, thirteen years later, as the remaining German forces were overwhelmed, Eva wrote in a letter to her friend, Hertha Schneider, we are fighting here until the last, but I'm afraid the end is threatening closer and closer. On April 29, Hitler decided to marry his longtime mistress Eva Braun. The ceremony was concluded with Goebbels and Bormann as witnesses. Hitler signed the wedding certificate but when it was Eva's turn, she began to write her surname as Braun before crossing out the letter B and instead writing Eva Hitler. Arm in arm, Hitler led his bride to the study for the wedding reception. Hitler now admitted for the first time that all was lost. Hitler said, everything is lost. Pack your things and go. You to have leave and within an hour, the last plane would bring you out. After that moment of silence, Eva Braun stepped forward, went to him and took his hand and said, but you know I will stay with you. Less than two days after the wedding on April 30, Hitler and his bride ended their lives together. They had been married just a few hours. Eva took a cyanide capsule, popped it into her mouth, she died instantly. Hitler picked up his gun, put it to his right temple and fired. Hitler's dog Blondie was also poisoned. Members of the staff carried the bodies in blankets and soaked them with what petrol they could find and set them alight. Hitler did not want to be handed over to the barbaric Bolsheviks because he knew what they had done to Mussolini. Thus, taking his life and setting his body on fire was his own wish. One day before committing suicide, Hitler dictated his political testament, a suicide note, in which he denied any responsibility for starting the war. Right up until the very end, when Hitler had nothing to gain, he wanted the world to know that he had never wanted war.

During World War II, the Soviet Union was a military ally whose anti-Nazi propaganda was accepted and later integrated into historical accounts. One speaker states their belief that 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the war by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. They then ask another speaker, the president of Iran and a scholar, if he believes that 6,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis, or if he thinks that is not true. The other speaker says he doesn't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed, and cautions that this statement is against the law in Germany, and could result in imprisonment.

An investigator examined facilities expecting to find gas execution chambers, but determined they were incapable of using hydrogen cyanide gas for executions. A supervisor confirmed that ceiling holes were rebuilt after the war. Some people deny the Holocaust and perpetuate intolerance, racism, antisemitism, homophobia, xenophobia, and sexism. Holocaust denial is comparable to believing the federal government was involved in 9/11. Denying the Holocaust is baseless, ignorant, and hateful. The speaker believes that Jews were slaughtered in gas chambers, and these are facts, not opinions to be debated.

Speaker 0 explains that before going he told “mister Zundle and his defense team” that if he found facilities that could have supported executions, he would testify whether or not they could have sustained gas executions. He says photographs were produced and “the video photographer” documented that “the forensic samples … were properly taken, packaged for submission to the laboratories.” He states he examined the facilities and “made a determination that they were incapable of supporting the use of hydrogen cyanide gas for purposes of execution or otherwise.” He adds that “the reasons that I determined that these facilities were not or never could have been gas execution facilities are stated in my report.” He argues that “None of these ever existed” and that if used, “they would have been blown to bits.” He concludes with “there are no eyewitnesses because there were no gassings.”

The speaker, once a believer in the Holocaust, now identifies as an "unbeliever." He draws a parallel between his exposure of the Hitler diaries as fake and his current conviction regarding Auschwitz. He claims Paul Norris found evidence in British archives that the British Psychological Warfare Executive initiated the gas chamber story. The speaker quotes archives alleging the Executive decided to broadcast claims of German gas chambers for Jews. He further quotes a 1944 handwritten minute from Victor Cavendish Bentinck, then chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, stating the "gas chamber lie" had run its course and suggesting distancing from the story to protect the broader psychological warfare effort. The speaker notes that in 1988, this "hare" is still running.

Speaker 0 argues that parasites have become a problem because they have been weaponized. They reference a Nobel Prize-winning finding showing that a certain parasite could produce stomach cancer in rats, and that a different parasite produced this effect in Japan. They note these results only worked in animals that ate a high-sugar diet or were vaccinated, not in healthy animals. They then connect this to twentieth-century American policy: vaccination began with troops during World War I and continued in the military, then expanded to schoolchildren after World War II. The speaker predicts that vaccines at school would eventually affect broader segments of the population, not just children, and claims that vaccines have the effect of making people more susceptible to parasites, including those that cause cancer, not just toxoplasmosis. Regarding diet, the speaker mentions the food pyramid of the twentieth century, pointing out that the bottom consisted of carbohydrates, implying a link to susceptibility. The speaker then discusses bioweapons policy: in 1971, Nixon declared an end to the United States bioweapons offensive program and signed a treaty (they mention a 1978 figure, implying a multinational agreement). They claim that, despite this treaty, the Soviet Union and others violated it, and that perhaps everyone violated it. They assert that, at the same time the treaty was signed, Fort Detrick was converted from a bioweapons lab to be part of the National Cancer Institute. They compare this to Nazi Germany, stating that they hid bioweapons under cancer research, and claim that the United States did something similar. The transcription ends with emphatic agreement.

Speaker 0 urges historical perspective, noting the wartime Soviet alliance and that their anti-Nazi propaganda was accepted by the Allies; as victors, the Soviets "got to commit their propaganda to the history books as fact." He says current knowledge of Stalin's despotism and the KGB's deception, and the camps Majdanek, Belzec, Kelno, Treblinka, and Sobibor, have required relying on Soviet sources. "I believe in the inarguable fact that 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the war by Adolf Hitler and Nazis." He asks Speaker 2 if he believes that figure. Speaker 2 replies, "But I don't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed. Now be careful. I I beg of you. This is against the law in Germany. If there was a German somebody that's in German state, you could have me thrown into prison before I leave Germany."

The speaker challenges the historical narrative around Nazi extermination methods by asserting several counterclaims about the evidence and the revisions of the story over time. They claim that the carbon monoxide used at Treblinka allegedly came from a diesel engine, but argue that diesel engines do not produce enough carbon monoxide to kill people, implying that the story had to be changed. They note that Yad Vashem discussed this in 2019, but contend that the debunking of the diesel-engine theory occurred in the 1980s, and that the Nitzkor project responded by stating it was “just a 500 BHP engine from a captured Soviet tank,” accusing others of moving the goalposts whenever caught. The speaker then shifts to Zyklon B, asserting that it “was not meant to kill people, it was meant to kill bugs and keep the prisoners healthy and alive because they needed them,” portraying the chemical as primarily a pest-control agent rather than a genocide tool. Turning to Auschwitz, the speaker references a sympathetic photograph, then discusses propaganda about the number of victims. They state, “originally, the propaganda about Auschwitz was that five point five million were killed at Auschwitz,” and clarify that when they refer to Auschwitz, they are not talking about Birkenau but the initial Auschwitz gas chamber. Overall, the speaker presents a pattern of alleged revision and reinterpretation of Nazi-era facts, arguing that the narrative shifts whenever it is challenged, and contrasting widely cited figures and purposes with claimed alternative explanations. The emphasis throughout is on questioning the established account of how mass murder was carried out at Treblinka and Auschwitz and on attributing changes in the historical narrative to deliberate adjustments rather than new evidence.

Doctor Raul Hilberg was back on the stand today to defend his forty years of Holocaust research. The questions ranged from the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto uprising to German policy as the 1941 invasion of Russia began. Defense lawyer Doug Christie pressed how Hilberg concluded that Adolf Hitler personally issued the annihilation order. Hilberg replied, "Hitler's order was verbal and thus no one knows the correct wording. It's one of the gaps in history." He added, "To get the evidence of Hilberg overnight might cost $400. That's how much it costs." Christie challenged Hilberg's use of a former SS officer as a source; the officer claimed, for example, that "Hitler witnessed some gassings" and that "25,000,000 Jews were killed." Hilberg admitted he left out the officers' incredible points in his book.

Speaker 0 argues that it’s logistically absurd to claim the Holocaust involved gassing millions and hauling bodies from so-called gas chambers, noting the inefficiency of that method. He points out the irony that the person most famous for gassing people refused to use gas that could have won the war, because he would not be the first to use gas, despite having 20,000 kilograms of tabun and sarin. He asserts there were no counters to that chemical weapon, yet the decision not to use gas led to the downfall of his country. Speaker 1 adds that Hitler was gassed himself at the end of World War I, which blinded him. During the fall of the Kaiser’s empire, the Reich’s collapse and the emergence of Bolshevik and Weimar structures occurred as some German states did not join the Weimar Republic and became sub-states or Soviet-like entities. Speaker 0 emphasizes that anyone uncertain about Hitler’s legacy should read Mein Kampf and hear from Hitler’s own words to understand why he held his beliefs. He claims Hitler did not begin as an anti-Semite intent on killing Jews, and describes Hitler as someone who admired and observed the universe, was a truth-seeker from day one, engaged in political discussions, and was fascinated by philosophy, German history, the British Empire, and America. He notes Hitler was well-read and well-spoken, but deprived economically, working as a day laborer with little work available to feed himself. He claims Hitler went days without food to afford a book, showing a love of knowledge, and that he wasn’t a failed artist; he was a talented artist whose path could have been architecture rather than drawing. Speaker 0 contends that smear campaigns against Hitler fail and are “nonsense.” He dismisses more extreme claims as false, such as insults about Hitler’s sexuality or anatomy, and mentions that such accusations are common against many figures. Speaker 1 comments that a lot of the negative rumors about Hitler (e.g., perverse claims) are typical allegations made against many people, implying they are not unique to Hitler.

Speaker 0 states that there is not the slightest evidence Adolf Hitler knew what was happening to the Jews, to the Holocaust, or to Auschwitz. He says he has offered £1,000 English money, 2,000 Canadian dollars, since 1977 and over the last nine years in television programs and worldwide media, to anyone who can find one wartime document showing that Hitler even knew about Auschwitz or about what was going on in the Eastern Front. He asserts that nobody can find such a document, and that historians hesitate, look at each other, and ask if someone else has the proof. He recounts that Jekyll says no, Hilgeruber says no, Jakobson says perhaps Bouchard has it, and Bouchard says he thought Jekyll had it, so they go around in circles. Because they cannot prove they have the evidence, they turn on he (Irving), accusing him of fascism and discrediting him, claiming nobody should believe him. He then says he has come up in the archives with a whole string of documents that meet his criteria—genuine documents written by people in positions to know, created not for any exterior or ulterior motive. He describes these as a narrow file of documents showing Hitler deliberately, explicitly linked to the Holocaust as we can say, or linked to the fate of the Jews, that great tragedy. He asserts that all these documents show Hitler intervening to stop anything nasty happening to the Jews. The core claims are: (1) there is no wartime document proving Hitler knew about Auschwitz or the Holocaust; (2) his ongoing public challenge and financial offer to discover such a document; (3) the existence of a verified set of documents written by insiders, allegedly showing Hitler intervening to prevent harm to the Jews, and explicitly linking Hitler to the Holocaust in his actions.

Cyclone b dropped into the death chamber from a small opening. It took from three to fifteen minutes. We knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped. After the bodies were removed, our special commandos took off the rings and extracted the gold from the teeth of the corpses. Children of tender years were invariably exterminated since by reason of their youth, they were unable to work. It was the British who obtained by torture the confession of Rudolf Herr's commandant of Auschwitz before turning him over to the Soviets and Poles. This has been confirmed in a book published in 1983 titled Legions of Death, which contains the recollections of British Sergeant Bernard Clark, who brags about having tortured Hearst get a confession out of him and of threatening his family. I would rather die painless than have the sovereign subjected to such humiliation.

The Fuhrer has absolutely forbidden the use of poison gas. The enemy is to use it first, and then we will retaliate with ours. the Germans would have won the war because the Germans had not just poison gases like mustard, the Germans had nerve gases. At this time, in 1944, they already had stockpiles of 30,000 tons of nerve gases, sarin and tabun. But he had put his name on a piece of paper, the Geneva Gas Protocol, saying that he would never use gas first because it would be a war crime. the nine or 10 panzer divisions out of Normandy and sent them to the Russian front.

Proofs of the Holocaust are few: 'Literally, all there is are the eyewitness testimonies and postwar confessions. There's no picture, plan, or wartime document dealing with homicidal gas chambers or a plan to exterminate the Jews.' After intercepting transmissions from Auschwitz, the speaker argues that the evidence has normal explanations: hair, shoes, and clothing reflect lice control and issued uniforms; Zyklon B was used to disinfect clothes and buildings; the typhus epidemic demanded strict lice control. Allied aerial photos of Auschwitz 'do not show people being gassed or bodies being burned.' He describes a building with four holes in the ceiling; revisionists say they were added later. 1988 Fred Lucher tests showed gas-chamber samples with 'almost no appreciable traces,' Krakow 1990 tests 'got back the same results.' The conclusion: 'there are no eyewitnesses because there were no gassings.'

We must revise our histories of the Second World War to incorporate the enormous element played by British code breaking, which also has a vital part in the Auschwitz story. One of the codes we were breaking were the secret codes of the commandant of Auschwitz. The top secret messages the commandant of Auschwitz sent back to Berlin every night, reporting what he had been doing in the previous twenty-four hours, were being read by us. Sometimes we read them before Oswald Pohl, his superior in Berlin, read them. This gave us exact knowledge of what was happening in Auschwitz. The British official historian, Professor Frank Hinsley, who is the master of St John’s College in Cambridge, writes in volume two of the history of the British Secret Service and in a special appendix devoted to these decoded police signals, SS signals, that there is no reference to any gassings. The majority of the deaths were caused by epidemics and by illness. This claim is there in his writing, and it is suggested that historians should look for it. Yet is anybody smearing Hinsley's name? Is anybody banning him from Germany or Austria or Italy or South Africa? No, because he’s not out there campaigning. He’s not campaigning for real history. He’s written it, and the speaker respects his judgment. Hinsley decided to preserve your reputation, go to Cambridge, become master of St John’s College, write the book, and let the real fighters go out there and do the fighting. And that is what the speaker is doing.

"In 1943, the communists will use the word Nazis, fascist, and antisemitic in order to push the public mind to make them believe something by using repetition." "Germany was arresting all the bankers because they were charging so much interest that they were destroying the country." "60,000,000 Germans died." "after World War two, all these generals in America actually realized they fought the wrong enemy. The enemy is within." "Even general Patton said we should have fought with the fascist against the communist, otherwise, our country will degrade." "There's also another part that was left out of the story." "Yes."

- None of the facilities examined at Auschwitz, Birkenau, or Lublin could have supported or in fact did ever support multiple executions utilizing hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide, or any other allegedly or factually lethal gas. - Based upon very generous maximum usage rates for all the alleged gas chambers totaling some 1,693 persons per week and assuming these facilities could support gas executions, it would have required sixty eight years to execute the alleged number of 6,000,000 presses. - Promoting these facilities as being capable of affecting mass, multiple, or even singular executions is both ludicrous and insulting to every individual on this planet. - Hydrocyonic Acid was not used in the buildings alleged to have been homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz. - I have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with cyclone B in this manner. I consider it impossible.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss Nazi chemical capabilities and the use of Zyklon B. Speaker 0 states that Nazis had developed sarin gas and tabun, "nasty deadly nerve gases," and argues that the idea they would actually use Zyklon B, which was essential for maintaining health in the camps, is ridiculous. Speaker 1 agrees, saying it seems ridiculous and that “the whole story” appears ridiculous once examined. Speaker 1 adds that years ago they investigated because it was illegal, noting changes over time, and that they felt compelled to keep quiet. Speaker 0 then shifts to logistics, noting that there are documents on trains that came in, the amounts of coke used in the crematoria, and that everything is well documented, including the number of people who actually made it to Auschwitz. He mentions Red Cross–related deaths as part of the documentation but the sentence trails off: “The deaths by the Red Cross I think were put.”

Hitler embargoed the use of poison gas, as evidenced by a document signed by him, references in the German high command vows, verbatim references by him, and shorthand records of meetings. If Churchill had used poison gas on German cities, the Germans would have won the war because they possessed nerve gases like sarin and tabun. In 1944, Germany had stockpiles of 30,000 tons of these nerve gases. Had Hitler used them in Normandy, it would have ended the Allied bridgehead because Allied gas masks were ineffective against German nerve gases. Hitler, despite being able to gain a strategic advantage by using nerve gas, did not because he signed the Geneva Gas Protocol, which forbade him from using gas first.

Did six million j really perished in World War two German concentration camps? Or is that number just a little bit exaggerated? The latches can be opened from the inside or the outside, as I am showing right here. You cannot lock somebody into this room. They couldn't lock them in, and some gas chamber doors were made with wooden doors. Wooden doors to gas chambers? Come on. It's not airtight. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is a fake, pure and simple. Why would they have soccer and swimming pools to people they're about to exterminate? Not a single person died of poison gas.

Cyclone B was dropped into the death chamber, killing people in 3-15 minutes. The screaming stopped when they were dead. Special commandos removed rings and extracted gold from teeth. Children were exterminated because they couldn't work. Rudolf Herr's confession was obtained by the British through torture before he was turned over to the Soviets and Poles. This was confirmed in "Legions of Death" by Bernard Clark, who bragged about torturing Herr and threatening his family. The speaker wishes the Fuhrer had taken responsibility for his commands, stating he was their sovereign. The speaker would rather die than see the sovereign subjected to humiliation in a foreign court, believing the Fuhrer would have taken responsibility.

"There is considerable evidence to that effect that it was a a World War two propaganda device." "Once Germany lost the war, the lie or the propaganda lie or the atrocity propaganda persisted, and nobody was there to challenge it with facts." "I happened to have the onerous duty of going into Buchenwald right after the surrender of Germany. I saw the camp. I saw some of the survivors. I saw the ovens." "Under what is under dispute is whether there was a policy of planned genocide by by a government body." "I am not permitted to talk to you about the Holocaust per se under judge's orders." "Justice Jackson had, for instance, one reference to torture by one of the most famous of the Nuremberg accused expunged from the record."

Nazis were enemies of communism, which killed hundreds of millions. The claim that Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews is untrue and a fabrication. According to the speaker, spending time researching revisionist sources online will show that evidence contradicts the emotional backing for the claim that 6,000,000 Jews were wickedly killed in gas chambers by the Nazis. The speaker asserts that all the emotion is on one side, while all the evidence is on the other.

The speaker discusses Adolf Hitler and poison gases, noting that Hitler possessed two nerve gases, Tabun and Sarin, against which none of the Allies had any defense. Despite this, Hitler ordered that these poison gases not be used because Germany had signed the Geneva Convention. The speaker asserts there are contradictions here that historians should have investigated, claiming to have spent thirty years in archives and even offering rewards for any evidence, yet suggesting that if such evidence exists, others would have found it. The argument pivots to the expectation of traceable chain-of-command documentation. The speaker points out the many people involved in the process—from the individual writing the teletype message on one end to the recipient at the other end, with twenty copies at each end—and argues that even if official files were destroyed, someone would have written home or kept a diary. The speaker asserts that such evidence should be in the records because Hitler’s other crimes are documented in various forms. Specific documented crimes and orders attributed to Hitler are listed: - Euthanasia: an actual order with Hitler’s signature, issued sometime in 1940 but backdated to the first day of the war, with Hitler’s euthanasia order in the files with the Signicharlotter. - The order to kill the Russian commissars after the campaign in Russia began, with those commissars described as political officers attached to the Russian armed forces; the order is documented in the military files of the day. - The order to kill British commandos, noted as a particularly sore point for Canadians, with Hitler’s order from October 1942 in the files, described as a criminal order and adequately documented. - The order to kill the male population of Stalingrad after capturing the city, recorded in the private diary of General Helder (Haldbr). - The order to Linzalla Airmen in May 1944, also attributed to Hitler, and documented. The speaker then raises an interesting question about Hitler’s character: how could he unhesitatingly issue orders that are crimes under international law, such as the order to kill prisoners, while at the same time ordering that poison gas not be used to avoid violating the Geneva Convention? The speaker notes that poison gas could have potentially changed the course of the war—specifically, around the Normandy Beachhead in July 1944, when it was established and near breakout—arguing that use of nerve gases against which Allied troops had no gas masks could have wiped out the entire Normandy Beachhead. The speaker contends that Hitler could have won the war by pulling out the Panzer divisions and redeploying them to the Eastern Front, potentially mopping up the Eastern Front in two to three months, but He did not.