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The speaker was asked if Jeffrey Epstein worked for an intelligence agency and why a minute was missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of his death. Regarding the client list, the speaker stated the file is sitting on their desk to be reviewed, along with the JFK and MLK files. The tens of thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein and will never be released. The speaker has no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Evidence showed he committed suicide. The missing minute from the video was due to the Bureau of Prisons resetting the video every night, and every night should have the same minute missing. They are looking for that video to release.

There is no credible information available. None. If there were credible information, I would have brought the case yesterday, specifically the allegation that he trafficked to other individuals. The information we currently have is limited, and therefore the conclusion based on the available material is that there is no one implicated. So, to restate the conclusion using the information at hand, the answer is no one. This assessment is based on the information we have, in the files, in the case file. Okay.

The questioner asked whether the public will learn the identities of the men who abused the girls connected to Epstein, with the information being released, and if not, why not; followed by a quick additional question. The questioner framed the issue as identifying the men who abused the young women through Epstein's activities. The official responded by challenging the assumption embedded in the question. They asked what it would mean to learn about “men that abuse these girls” and pressed to clarify that term. The official stated that, as of July and continuing to today, if the Department of Justice had information about men who abused women, they would prosecute them. They referenced ongoing work and restated that there is no “hidden tranche of information … that we know about, that we're covering up or that we're not prosecuting.” The official emphasized that they do not know whether there are men out there who abuse these women, noting uncertainty about whether such individuals exist or remain unidentified. The underlying point was that there is no claimed concealment of information or selective prosecution, and that the existence of further leads or prosecutions would be pursued if information were present.

Speaker 0 states that, after reviewing most of the files, there is no credible information indicating that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked the young women to anyone other than himself. They emphasize that if such information existed, they would have pursued a case yesterday. They reiterate that the information available is limited, and when asked if Epstein trafficked the women to anyone else, the answer is no one, based on the information in the case file.

The speaker was asked whether they had communicated with a long list of people in relation to Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell. The responses were predominantly negative. Specifically, the named individuals were: Richard Khan, Darren N. Dyke, Sarah Kellen, Doug Band, Lawrence Summers, Huma Abedin, Noam Chomsky, Leslie Groff, Nadia Marcincova, John Luke Brunel, Alan Dershowitz, Kathy Rumler, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor (formerly Prince Andrew), Peter Mandelson, Reid Hoffman, Karina Shuliak, Bill Gates, Eyud Barak, Woody Allen, Sandy Berger, Jess Staley, Paul Morris, Leon Black, Sultan Ahmed bin Salim (listed as Sultan Ahmed bin Souliam in the transcript), Leslie Wexner, Jack Kessler, Mark Middleton, Harvey Weinstein, Ellie de Rothschild, Ariane de Rothschild, Lynn Forster de Rothschild, and any other members of the de Rothschild family. Speaker 1's replies were mostly “No,” indicating no communication with these individuals regarding Epstein or Maxwell. The dialogue includes an exception: Huma Abedin. In preparation for the hearing, Speaker 1 acknowledged having talked to Huma Abedin about this topic, with the explicit question, “Have I ever talked to her about this in preparation for this hearing? I have.” Outside of that preparation conversation, Speaker 1 stated, “Not that I recall.” There is also a moment where Speaker 1 comments on familiarity with the list: “No. I don't know most of these people. Should I tell you that I don't know who they are or just tell you I never talked to them?” This reflects uncertainty about the identities of several individuals and a preference for simply answering that they never talked to them. Finally, the inquiry regarding the de Rothschild family elicited a uniform response of “No,” including a specific question about “Ellie de Rothschild,” “Ariane de Rothschild,” and “Lynn Forster de Rothschild,” followed by “Any other members of the de Rothschild family?” with the reply “No.”

There's no Epstein list. There are no Epstein files. All of the real story begins in 02/1967 when he's arrested in Palm Beach. The search warrant basically protected him and it prevented the authorities from collecting meaningful information. it's like, you're allowed to look in Drawer 3 but not Drawer 4. The truth is the US government doesn't have that much. Massive transfer of money from this guy Les Wexner in Ohio to Jeffrey Epstein. Leon Black, same thing. He says for accounting services, that's clearly not true. So to me, I think the Epstein list, the client list, I have been reliably told that there is no such thing really. That's not about Mossad or MI6 or CIA. And I'll just say once again that the Trump administration, I think, would help itself quite a bit. I don't think they have anything to fear.

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

I have the Epstein files on my desk. There are well over 250 victims, and we have to make sure that their identities and personal information is protected. Other than that, you're going to see some Epstein information released by my office. Hopefully tomorrow, you're going to see a lot of flight logs and names. It's pretty sick what that man did, and he had help.

Speaker 0, Jeffrey Edward Epstein and my residence address is 6100 Red Hook Boulevard in Virgin Islands. Speaker 1: Is it true that you forced Virginia Roberts to have sex with numerous friends of yours? Speaker 0: Wouldn't love my fifth amendment right. Speaker 2: You had a number of meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, who, when you met him ten years ago, he was convicted of soliciting prostitution from minors. Speaker 3: And, you know, I've said I regretted having those dinners regretted having those dinners. We did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein go to jail. He needed to go to jail. Were there young women in another part of the house giving massages, when I wasn't around? I have no idea of that. Speaker 1: Sent him three 12 year old girls from France who spoke no English for defendant to sexually exploit and abuse. After doing so, they were sent back to France the next day. Speaker 0: Please, they never saw a young underage woman. Speaker 3: You know, those meetings were were a mistake. They didn't result in what he purported, and I cut them off. You know, that goes back a long time ago now. There's you know, so there's nothing new on that. Speaker 2: We now know that he was and had been procuring young girls for sex trafficking. Speaker 0: We now know that. At the time, there was no indication to me or anybody else. I kept my underwear on during the massage. I don't like massages particularly. Speaker 3: If we had had more transparency, perhaps this case would have gone differently. Speaker 2: It was reported that you continued to meet with him over several years. Speaker 3: You know, I had dinners with him. I regret doing that. Speaker 0: You have what's been described as an egg shaped penis. Speaker 3: Well, he's dead. So, you know, in general, you always have to be careful.

James Palmer claimed yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing and asked for confirmation, noting that some have not heard back. The response: No. The FBI is reviewing; there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, and there are hundreds of victims. And no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. The speaker says they haven't seen that statement but will call Palmer later and find out.

James Palmer stated the Epstein files are missing. The FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child pornography, involving hundreds of victims. No victim's information will be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is diligently reviewing the videos. The speaker has not seen Palmer's statement but will follow up.

Speaker 0: You've seen most of the files. Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young young women to besides himself? Speaker 1: Himself, there is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the in information we have, again, is limited. Speaker 0: So the answer is no one? Speaker 1: For the information that we have. Speaker 0: In the files? Speaker 1: In the case file. Speaker 0: Okay. Now

The transcript presents two contrasting points. First, it states that there is no credible information that he trafficked them to anyone else. Second, it notes that, according to victims who cooperated with the FBI in that investigation, documents in FBI possession, your possession, detail at least 20 men to whom Jeffrey Epstein trafficked victims. Among those named is mister Jess Staley, CEO of Barclays Bank, indicating that Epstein trafficked victims to him. The list also includes at least 19 other individuals, spanning a range of professions and high-profile positions. The described categories of people named in the documents include a Hollywood producer worth a few hundred million dollars, a royal prince, a high-profile individual in the music industry, a very prominent banker, a high-profile government official, a high-profile former politician, an owner of a car company in Italy, a rock star, and a magician. The enumeration further specifies that at least six billionaires are among those listed, including a billionaire from Canada. In summary, the transcript claims that while there is no credible information of trafficking to other parties, FBI-linked documents enumerate a network of at least 20 men connected to Epstein’s trafficking of victims, with Jess Staley explicitly identified as one of the recipients. The rest of the named individuals span diverse and prestigious sectors—entertainment, royalty, finance, government, politics, automotive business, music, magic, and extreme wealth—highlighting a broad and varied set of possible associations. The allegations are presented as claims from victims who cooperated with the FBI, and the list is described as detailing those individuals to whom Epstein trafficked victims.

James Palmer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing. The other person asks to confirm and notes some people haven’t heard from them. The response: No. The FBI, they're reviewing there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, and there are hundreds of victims. And no one victim will ever get released. It’s just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. The speaker adds, I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out.

We don't need the Epstein files, the information is already out there. The FBI vault has thousands of pages of documents with redactions that could be unredacted to give us leads. Instead of focusing on the files, let's look at Leslie Wexner, the bankroll behind Epstein. He's the CEO of companies involved in sex trafficking. Whitney Webb's book details how Wexner gave Epstein control over his assets, potentially shielding Wexner from knowledge of Epstein's activities. Wexner's company also bought Abercrombie & Fitch and put Mike Jeffries, who was later accused of sex trafficking, in charge. Wexner also founded organizations to support Israel, and some claim Epstein's blackmail operation was created at Israel's request. Pam Bondi claims to care and be transparent, but if she truly wanted to stop human trafficking, she could start by investigating Epstein's co-conspirators using publicly available information.

There is no client list detailing people Jeffrey Epstein trafficked. Instead, there is a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers accusing various people of improper sex. The speaker, as the former lawyer involved in investigations, knows the identities of those redacted, but claims none are public figures currently in office. Some were previously in office, and some are dead. The redactions are the result of court orders from two judges in Manhattan protecting alleged victims. Pam Bondi, the Justice Department, and Donald Trump are not responsible for these redactions, and the speaker is unaware of any undisclosed information they could release. The speaker claims the vast majority of names in the files are already public knowledge, appearing in articles and books. The speaker believes the media has not done enough to find the people already disclosed in the public record.

Speaker 0 states that there is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the information we have, again, is limited. So the answer is no one? For the information that we have. In the files? In the case file. Okay.

Speaker 0 pressed: 'Did you tell the attorney general that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?' Speaker 1 responded: 'I have never spoken to president Trump about the Epstein files.' Speaker 1: 'The attorney general and I have had numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files and the reviews conducted by our team.' Speaker 1: 'And we have released where president Trump's name is the files.' Speaker 1: 'During many conversations that the attorney general and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed' Speaker 0: 'Question is simple.' Speaker 0: 'Who' Speaker 0: 'Did you tell the attorney general that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?' Speaker 1: 'Why don't you try spelling it out' Speaker 0: 'Yes or no? Use' Speaker 0: 'the alphabet.' Speaker 0: 'Yes or no?' Speaker 1: 'No. A b c.' Speaker 0: 'Question has been asked and answered.' Speaker 0: 'You've not answered it, and we will take your evasiveness as a consciousness of guilt.'

Powerful Epstein clients like Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, and Reid Hoffman, may have been worried about the list coming out. It's frustrating that the list isn't being released. Releasing insignificant information is pointless. The public will be frustrated if no one is prosecuted, especially since Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking. It's insane not to name the clients. It's stunning they've held it back so long. Many things are common knowledge, but we lack proof. When Epstein's place was raided, there must have been a mountain of evidence. Who took possession of it? Where are the tapes? We need tech-savvy people. When they raided his home and the island, they must have gotten everything. If it wasn't there, where is it? It has to be uploaded somewhere, with a chain of custody and a mountain of evidence.

- The questioning begins with noting a calendar or schedule, then moves to record-keeping instructions: "Turn off the video record at 01:05PM." - Mister Epstein is asked about sexual attraction to underage minor females. The question is objected to as harassing and argumentative. - Epstein invokes his rights: he states he must invoke his fifth, sixth, and fourteenth amendment rights to not answer questions today or any questions relevant to this lawsuit. - The questions focus on the names of any underage minors who were the subject of criminal charges to which Epstein pled guilty. Epstein responds, "I don't know." - The examiner asks what the charges were about and what the underlying allegations were. Epstein states the charge as "Solicitation of prostitution," clarifying it was not underage prostitution but prostitution. - The examiner asks if the victims or prostitutes were minors. Epstein repeats, "I plead guilty to solicitation of prostitution." - The examiner presses for details of the cases—what happened, what the underlying facts were, how Epstein engaged with the individuals. Epstein repeats that he cannot tell more than that and ultimately says, "I plead guilty to the solicitation of prostitution. Not underage prostitution, but prostitution." - The examiner asks to clarify whether the three females who were the subject of the guilty pleas in state court were procured by Epstein by having underage minor females locate other underage minor females and bring them to Epstein’s house. Objections are raised for argumentative, harassing, and assuming facts not in evidence; the examiner moves to strike. - The examiner asks whether all people with whom Epstein engaged in sexual activity were underage and brought by other underage girls. Objections persist; Epstein states he does not understand the question. - The examiner repeats a question about whether Epstein used underage minor females to bring other underage minor females to his house for sex; the exchange indicates the question had been asked and answered earlier. - Epstein again states, due to his counsel, that he must assert his sixth, fourteenth, and fifth amendment rights and cannot answer that question at the moment. - In closing, Epstein cites that his firm, Edwards and Jaffee, has been described by the US attorney as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida’s history, crafting malicious cases of a sexual nature to fleece people using bogus schemes and investment schemes. He reiterates his attorneys advised he must assert his constitutional rights, and therefore he cannot answer at this time.

The speaker confirms that all the Epstein files are missing. They state the FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, involving hundreds of victims. The speaker claims no victim's video will ever be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is described as diligently reviewing the videos. The speaker then states they haven't seen that statement.

James Palmer stated that all the Epstein files are missing. The speaker clarified that some files are missing. The FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, involving hundreds of victims. No victim's information will be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is diligently reviewing the files. The speaker hasn't seen James Palmer's statement.

Speaker 0 explains that Epstein’s legal problems began with police investigations into allegations that underage women were coming to Epstein’s house. Epstein allegedly believed that Trump was the first to inform the police about what was happening at Epstein’s house, and from that point they became bitter enemies. Speaker 1 asks if this is what Epstein is telling him. Speaker 0 confirms that this is the version he is relaying, as presented by “Oh, the hoax yesterday.” Speaker 2 clarifies that “the hoax” refers to Democrats using a narrative to attack him. He says Epstein has never said or suggested or implied that the hoax is real; he has talked to Epstein many times. He states that the whole thing comes across as a hoax, not that Epstein’s actions are a hoax. He explains that Epstein believes himself innocent, and that when he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Maribago. He adds that Epstein was an FBI informant trying to take this matter down. The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered harms; it’s detestable to him. He and the speaker have spoken as recently as twenty-four hours ago. What he is talking about, according to Speaker 2, are the Democrats who are pursuing this with impure motives. If they truly cared, he asks, why didn’t they act during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it, and now they pursue it for political purposes. Speaker 3 notes that our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past, and mentions Katie Johnson and possibly other victims who have accused Trump of involvement in similar matters. In the speaker’s experience, Trump supporters will not listen to such claims. He admits the court of law isn’t present here. He asks if there is anything that can be said about the validity of those claims or whether more is known. Speaker 1 responds that he can say nothing at all. He states that the only thing he can say about President Trump is that in 2009, when he served subpoenas and gave notice to connected people that he wanted to talk to them, Trump was the only person who picked up the phone and said, “let’s just talk.” Trump offered as much time as needed, provided information that checked out, and helped him so they didn’t have to depose him. He adds that this occurred in 2009. Speaker 3 asks if there is any truth to James Patterson’s claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Speaker 1 confirms that he definitely heard that.

The speaker references Brock Pierce, described as an Epstein client and alleged child abuser and as a cofounder of Tethr, and asks, “Who is friends with Epstein client and alleged child abuser, Tethr cofounder Brock Pierce.” They then say, “I don't know shit about Brock's history, and I've never met him. I don't know if he's an Epstein client. I don't know anything about these allegations, and I don't really care at this point because it doesn't affect my life at all.”

"There's no Epstein list. There are no Epstein files." "All of the real story begins in 02/1967 when he's arrested in Palm Beach." "The search warrant basically protected him and it prevented the authorities from collecting meaningful information." "It was like, you're allowed to look in Drawer 3 but not Drawer 4." "So the truth is the US government doesn't have that much." "Massive transfer of money from this guy Les Wexner in Ohio to Jeffrey Epstein." "Leon Black, same thing. He says for accounting services, that's clearly not true." "That's not about Mossad or MI6 or CIA. Right." "So I think as usual, the crime is right in front of our faces."