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Look at these rooms, motherfuckers. We ain't going anywhere. Now it's time to escalate. We must always continue to agitate. But we have and we will continue to globalize the Intifada. We need to neutralize the institutions of power in the West. That part of me would be a loss. I'm a part of the BDS movement, Hamas. Now we're in congress and work every corner of The United States. Carrying out campaigns into tangible strategic targets that have to us. Reaching into all of the key areas of social power to transform it and overthrow it. Bringing the fight back home. We have to destroy the idea of America.

On elite campuses, there is a significant influence from certain groups that promote controversial ideas. A Berkeley professor argued that it is crucial to view Hamas and Hezbollah as progressive social movements on the left. It is worth noting that this professor, Judith Butler, is a lesbian. The speaker points out the hypocrisy of these movements, as they condemn gendering someone as a human rights abuse but openly call for the murder of Jews. This ideology is deemed disgusting and unacceptable.

In recent days, many Democrats and progressives have been awakened to the issue of antisemitism on the left. It is surprising that some people are more shocked by the dehumanizing language used by world leaders to describe Hamas than by the actions carried out by Hamas itself.

In this video, the speakers discuss various topics related to Hamas, terrorism, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They debate whether Hamas is a terrorist organization and express different opinions on the United States military. They also touch on the issue of stolen land and the possibility of Israelis returning to their ancestral countries. The conversation becomes heated when discussing a specific event on October 7th and the Holocaust. The speakers emphasize the importance of context and education in shaping society. The video ends with a farewell and a mention of a significant event that occurred that night.

The US labels Hezbollah as a terrorist organization, but this term is often used by powerful nations to condemn violence they disagree with. The US supported Israel's invasions and occupation of Southern Lebanon, and Hezbollah played a key role in driving them out. This is why they are considered terrorists. The United States and Europe have the ability to manipulate the narrative, making it seem like Hamas's policies are the problem, rather than the more extreme policies of the US and Israel. It's important to note that in their case, actions speak louder than words.

Progressives and academics who criticize Israel as an outpost of Western civilization need to understand that Western civilization has given us the liberal values they claim to adore. The woke movement is not about ideas, as they support Hamas, which oppresses women and lacks laws against sexual harassment, spousal rape, domestic violence, homophobia, and honor killings. Liberals should reconsider standing with such a regime. It's important to note that Gaza's situation is not comparable to India or Kenya's colonization, and the partitioning of the region was not decided by Jews.

It's not about Netanyahu or the current government; it's about the asymmetry between Israel's military actions and Palestinian resistance. Palestinians have historically engaged in nonviolent resistance, but they face violence and oppression regardless. The solution isn't to seek peace with Israel but to dismantle the apartheid state and support a free, democratic Palestine with equal rights. Palestinian leadership has been decimated by Israeli actions. The military operation on October 7th was a significant achievement for Palestinians, despite the tragic consequences. The responsibility for the resulting civilian casualties lies with Israel, not the Palestinians. The focus should be on stopping the violence and addressing the humanitarian crisis, rather than debating legitimacy based on identity.

I fully support the right of self-defense, whether it's in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the United States, or Britain. If someone from another country came and threatened my land and family, I would defend my country too. However, I won't ignore the fact that the United States government is the biggest terrorist on the planet. Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist, which reminds me of Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress rejecting apartheid. For Israel to be a true partner in peace, it needs to abandon its ideology of Zionism and treat all people equally. Only then can we expect Hamas to acknowledge Israel. Until then, I see no difference between Hamas and Nelson Mandela's stance on apartheid.

The speaker criticizes the Hamas Charter, comparing it to conspiracy theories found on far-right platforms like 4chan. They argue that Hamas should be seen as a far-right fascist organization, but the left struggles to condemn it due to their association of the Palestinian cause with anti-imperialism. This confusion prevents them from acknowledging Hamas as a fascistic group.

Some individuals interviewed believe Hamas are freedom fighters, not terrorists, and are resisting occupation and fighting for their land. One person called the Hamas invasion of Israel on October 7th "a beacon of hope." Another stated the continued existence of Israel is a war crime. One interviewee expressed doubt that Hamas was responsible for the invasion and admitted to needing more information to comment. Another found the unverified reporting of "40 beheaded babies" disgusting.

I fully support the right to self-defense. If I were in Palestine, Iraq, or Afghanistan, I would engage in violent resistance against foreign aggression. Similarly, I would defend my homeland if it were threatened. I refuse to condemn terrorism without acknowledging that the U.S. government is a significant perpetrator. Hamas's refusal to recognize Israel mirrors the African National Congress's stance against apartheid. For genuine peace, Israel must abandon its Zionist ideology that dehumanizes others. If Israel embraces all people, including Palestinians, with equal rights, I would challenge Hamas to recognize Israel. Until then, I see no difference between Nelson Mandela's fight against apartheid and Hamas's resistance to the Zionist state.

Understanding Hamas and Hezbollah as progressive social movements on the left is crucial, but it doesn't prevent us from criticizing certain aspects or exploring nonviolent alternatives. Engaging in critical discussions is important for the left. Additionally, boycotts and divestment procedures are essential for any resistance movement. Lastly, stay tuned for upcoming events in the middle of October.

I fully support the right of self-defense in Palestine, Iraq, and Afghanistan, as well as in the US and UK if facing aggression. The US government is the biggest terrorist. Hamas should recognize Israel, but Israel must abandon Zionism and treat all people equally for peace. Hamas should follow Nelson Mandela's example in rejecting apartheid.

Support the right of self defense without any doubt. I would be involved myself in violent resistance if I were a citizen of Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan. So I absolutely 100% defend the right of self defense, and I will never shy away from that. I will not join the long list of embarrassments who condemn terrorism while forgetting to acknowledge that the biggest terrorist on the planet is the United States government for all its terrorism around the world. Has a right to defend itself? Absolutely. Every country does, and it that's exactly why the hypocrisy and the lies of Israel are so transparent. Hamas doesn't recognize the right of Israel to exist. I say that Israel, if it wants to be a genuine partner in any kind of peace, needs to destroy its whole ideology of Zionism. Zionism that makes other people goyim who do not deserve to be in the holy land. But until that time, I see no difference between Nelson Mandela and Hamas in refusing to accept apartheid or the Zionist Israeli state.

Yemen, as a leader in resistance, declared Israel and the US as terrorist entities. The Yemeni people, workers, and armed forces are fighting to decolonize the Red Sea and oppose genocidal regimes. The world must support armed resistance and speak out against imperialism. October 7th exposed imperialist states and showed progress towards freeing Palestine from Zionism. The region is united in an international resistance movement for collective liberation. Groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, and Hezbollah are part of this movement.

Understanding Hamas and Hezbollah as progressive social movements on the left is crucial, but it doesn't prevent us from being critical of certain aspects and exploring nonviolent alternatives. Engaging in critical discussions is important for the left. Additionally, boycotts and divestment procedures are vital for any resistance movement. Lastly, stay tuned for upcoming events in October.

- On October 7, approximately 1,200 people were killed, with about 400 combatants and 800 civilians, according to the speaker who bases this on authoritative human rights reports (UN HRC Commission of Inquiry, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch). He notes that these organizations do not have perfect records but argues there is no compelling evidence that contradicts Hamas and other armed groups in Gaza being responsible for the majority of deaths, while there is no evidence that Israeli actions within Israel constituted a significant share of the total deaths. - The speaker contends there is no credible evidence of weaponized rape by Hamas on October 7. He discusses the UN Commission of Inquiry’s distinction between rape and sexual violence, and Pamela Patton’s report, which he says concluded there was no direct digital or photographic evidence of sexual violence on October 7, despite reviewing thousands of photographs and hundreds of hours of digital evidence. He argues the rape claim relies on assertions by observers and advocates rather than verifiable forensic or photographic proof. - Eyewitness testimony is challenged as being part of a pattern that could promote a narrative of Israeli moral exceptionalism; the speaker asserts that some eyewitness accounts “tell you Israel is the most moral army in the world” and notes that many such testimonies come from sources described as biased, with Israeli soldiers often embedded in a siege mentality. He suggests that Israeli society, with a citizen army and strong military culture, may have incentives to shape or repeat certain stories. - The speaker discusses Hamas’s planning and motives in the years leading to October 7, describing Gaza as an “inferno under the Israeli occupation.” He cites early 2000s characterizations of Gaza as a concentration camp by Israeli officials and UN/Human Rights reports, and notes the blockade and economic collapse. He explains that in 2023, Gaza was described by The Economist as a “rubber sheep” and by others as a toxic dump, with extremely high unemployment (60% of youth) and a deteriorating social fabric. The anticipated end of Gaza’s struggle was seen when Saudi Arabia joined the Abraham Accords, leading the speaker to say Gaza’s fate was sealed. - The discussion on Hamas’s shift to violence notes Hamas had previously tried diplomacy, international law (including cooperation with human rights organizations after Operation Cast Lead and Operation Protective Edge), and even nonviolent strategies like the Great March of Return (endorsed by Hamas). The UN report on the March of Return found demonstrators overwhelmingly nonviolent, while Israel was accused of targeting civilians. The speaker argues Hamas pursued multiple avenues but faced a harsh blockade and a failing prospect of improvement. - Regarding the broader regional context, the speaker asserts that the West Bank and Gaza have different trajectories; Egypt and Jordan are seen as neutralizing or stabilizing forces, while the West Bank’s situation is contrasted with Gaza’s harsher conditions. He argues that the goal in places like Egypt is to neutralize, whereas Israel’s policy toward Gaza is described as cleansing or subjugation, a distinction he says differentiates regional dynamics. - The speaker critiques the UN Security Council’s handling of Gaza, describing a 2023 resolution (UNSC Resolution 2803) that endorses the Trump peace plan and creates a “board of peace” with sovereign powers in Gaza, headed by Donald Trump, and notes that no external body supervises this board beyond a quarterly report to the Security Council. He claims this arrangement renders Gaza effectively under a transitional administration, with reconstruction timelines alarmingly long (fifty to eighty years to rebuild) and a minimal chance of Israel withdrawing from the green zone. - He argues that after October 7, the board’s governance path, the Trump plan, and Arab states’ support for the resolution collectively resulted in Gaza’s “death warrant,” with reconstruction hampered by deliberate destruction and political arrangements that preclude meaningful self-determination or statehood for Gaza. - On international reactions, the speaker notes varying support for Gaza among Arab nations and emphasizes that some regional actors (including Turkey, Egypt, Qatar, and others) endorsed handing Gaza to Trump; he accuses these states of compromising Gaza’s future for broader geopolitical aims and accuses several of “slavery and subservience” to such outcomes. - The concluding portion covers Gaza’s future: the speaker reiterates that Gaza has effectively been made unlivable, with rubble and toxic contamination delaying any reconstruction for decades, and he maintains that the path to a two-state solution remains contested, with the Trump-led framework limiting Palestinian rights and self-determination. He indicates he has just completed a book on UN corruption and the Security Council’s role in Gaza, titled Gaza’s Gravediggers, and suggests that the UN declaration of war on Gaza nullifies international law regarding self-determination.

- Grabbing a gun equates to freedom, and violence is sometimes a revolutionary essential. - The U.S. settler state must be crashed to impact the Israeli state. - Armed resistance will defeat Zionism on an open battlefield, so weapons flow to Zionists must be stopped. - October 7 was a profound moment to dig in and go harder. - Putting bodies on the line to protect the vulnerable is essential. - Struggle for indigenous sovereignty on Turtle Island. - Being a "Gorilla Scholar" means being prepared to be fired for your beliefs. - Some have been snitched on to the administration for course content. - Groups like Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolution have been misrepresented due to imperialist ideology. - Challenge the settler state, like the University of Virginia, and exploit institutional resources. - Al Aqsa Flood on October 7 was a decisive strike against imperialism. - Faculty should teach Palestinian liberation and resistance struggles. - The armed resistance movement rejects dependence on oppressors. - Subjugated people must overthrow the broader imperialist world system.

Jonathan (Speaker 0) and Michael (Speaker 2) along with Jonathan Conricus (Speaker 1) discuss the Australia Hanukkah attack, antisemitism, and the political context surrounding Palestinian statehood and Islamist extremism. They also touch on free speech, protests, and potential international implications. - Jonathan’s initial reaction to the Australian shooting: He was not surprised, framing it as part of a broader pattern he terms “globalize the Intifada.” He cites experiences in Australia, including Bondi Beach visits and conversations with the Jewish community, who he says feel betrayed by legislators and exposed by law enforcement. He argues the atmosphere in Australia has allowed antisemitic attacks, with radicals allowed to shout antisemitic slogans and attack synagogues. He accuses the Australian government of being weak and cowed, quick to side with Hamas and Palestinians while demonizing Israel, and contends this climate enabled violence against 2,000 Australian Jews celebrating Hanukkah. He calls for full support and protection for Jews in Australia and for leadership to change its stance toward global affairs. - Netanyahu connection and limiting principle: Michael notes Netanyahu’s August letter to Australian Prime Minister Albanese warning that support for a Palestinian state fuels antisemitic violence and benefits Hamas. Conricus is asked about a limiting principle: could endorsing Palestinian statehood by various figures (Ehud Barak, the UN Security Council’s Oslo-era blueprint, etc.) be linked to such attacks, potentially implicating many figures including Donald Trump? Conricus responds that the situation in Australia goes beyond a mere recognition of a Palestinian state and highlights the disquiet in Israel across political spectrum about linking Israel’s actions to global support for Palestinian statehood, especially after October 7 atrocities. - Protests and incitement: Jonathan argues the protests in Australia, including chants like “gas the Jews,” reflect incitement and a broader systemic failure by authorities who allowed Hamas supporters to dominate public spaces and harass Jews. He recounts encounters with Hamas supporters in Melbourne and claims police and local government enabled harassment against Jews, including demands Jews remove kippahs to avoid incitement. He says hate crimes against synagogues have gone unsolved and that this atmosphere of violence and antisemitism needs to change. - Pro-Palestinian vs pro-Hamas distinction: Michael asks where to draw the line between pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas protesters. Conricus argues the distinction is artificial and notes that polls show Hamas is the most popular Palestinian political group, suggesting that many demonstrators imply support for Hamas even if they do not explicitly say so. He believes the dominant sentiment among protesters on October 7-8 was supportive of Hamas, even if framed as pro-Palestinian nationalism. He also mentions paid protesters, particularly in US/UK campus contexts, but emphasizes ideologically driven protesters. - Free speech and incitement: Michael insists that if protests include chants and actions that incite violence, this becomes a free-speech issue, citing First Amendment protections in the US and contrasting with other countries. Jonathan counters that incitement can justify restriction when it explicitly calls for violence against a protected group, noting that “gas the Jews” crosses lines beyond free speech, and criticizes Australian authorities’ tolerance of violent incitement. - Chronology and retaliation: The participants discuss the October 7 Hamas attack and Israel’s subsequent response. Jonathan clarifies that Hamas conducted an unprecedented, unprovoked attack killing 1,200 Israelis, with later identification of missing and abducted individuals. He describes Israel’s border closure and subsequent major offensive in Gaza. Michael points out debates around whether attackers’ motives included broader geopolitical narratives, while Jonathan underscores the gravity and scale of the October 7 killings and the need to acknowledge the initial atrocity. - Islam and Western integration: Jonathan addresses Islam as a monotheistic faith with nearly 2 billion followers, expressing no issue with Islam as a religion but concern about Islamist ideology and an imperialistic mindset. He cites Sweden’s immigration policy as an example of perceived societal strain and argues for cautions about cultural integration, border policies, and governance standards in Western societies. - Acknowledgment of individual bravery: They remark on Ahmed Ben Ahmed, a Muslim shop owner who helped defend Jews during the Australian attack, acknowledging his bravery and suggesting he should be recognized for valor. - Iran, Israel, and alleged blame: The discussion covers claims about Iran or Israel behind the attack. Michael asserts there is no evidence linking Mossad or Iran to the attack, while Jonathan suggests Iranian involvement is possible but not proven, noting Iranian propaganda and the potential for blowback, while maintaining that the attackers’ exact affiliations remain unclear. They note Iranian condemnation of the attacks, with skepticism about Iranian statements.