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Speaker 0 notes the shirt says, 'I'm a Zionist.' Speaker 1 describes Zionism as 'someone believes in a homeland for Jewish people,' and affirms, 'It means Israel first. Yes.' They discuss whether one can 'serve two masters? Meaning, can you serve England and Israel at the same time?' Shalom Listen. Let me tell you something. 'If there's a war tomorrow, which there will be, because I'll probably start at the end of the session.' 'If there was a war and it kicked off, I would be there on the front line fighting for Israel.' The exchange centers on Zionist identity, loyalty, and willingness to defend Israel.

The speaker explains the difference between Jews and Zionists. They state that Zionism is the opposite of Judaism, as it mistrusts God and goes against religious beliefs. Zionists are accused of committing crimes by taking land from others through killing and robbery, which goes against the commandments of not killing and not stealing. This is the fundamental difference between Zionists and others.

Speaker 0 states, "I love Israel." Speaker 1 responds, "Do I look stupid? I'm not gonna say that." Speaker 1 questions why people are so "crazy" and says, "The Israeli people are so crazy." Speaker 0 asks, "You eat a dog?" and "You kill people? You babies? You keep f***ing woman. You born the hospital?" Speaker 0 asks, "Israel or Palestine?" Speaker 1 states, "Since Israel babies, people, children, and women, I choose Palestine. Of course." Speaker 1 concludes by saying, "You guys look crazy. Chill."

The speaker discusses the stark difference in views on Israel, highlighting the influence of Zionism in shaping beliefs. They reflect on their own upbringing as an Ashkenazi Jew in the US and the indoctrination they faced. Personal regret is expressed for unknowingly participating in ethnic cleansing. Criticism is directed towards Debbie Wasserman Schultz for equating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. The speaker vows to educate others on the distinction between Zionism and Judaism, asserting that Zionism is anti-Semitic. They condemn the widespread support for such views in Congress.

There are two versions of Zionism discussed in the video. The speaker emphasizes that being Jewish is not a requirement to be a Zionist. They mention Lord Rothschild and Marina Abramovic, standing in front of a statue of Lucifer summoning his legions. The speaker questions the identity and intentions of these individuals. They highlight that the state of Israel was created by Zionists, who hold dual citizenship with Israel. The speaker distinguishes between Zionist leaders and practicing Jews who promote love and unity. They mention a video showing Israelis who support Palestinians being attacked. The video ends abruptly.

The speaker addresses the issue of the Israel-Palestine conflict and the role of Zionism. They express concern about the escalating situation and urge self-identifying Zionists to consider the impact of their beliefs. The speaker criticizes the Israeli government for oppressing Palestinians and using Judaism as a shield. They argue that Israel inflicts more harm on Palestinians than Hamas does on Israel. The speaker highlights the relevance of American support for Israel and calls for evidence of precise attacks. They emphasize the need to confront uncomfortable truths and reject actions that harm others in the name of Judaism. The speaker concludes by urging the protection of freedoms and rejecting anything that benefits Jews at the expense of others.

The discussion opens with Speaker 0 noting that the first foreign visit by a New York City mayor is significant and asks where each candidate would go first. Speaker 1 (Cuomo) replies, “First visit, I would visit The Holy Land.” Speaker 2, addressing hostility and antisemitism in New York, adds, “Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.” Speaker 0 then directs the question to Speaker 2 (Tilson). Tilson responds, “Yeah. I’d make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.” Speaker 0 moves to Speaker 3 (Mamdani), who says, “I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.” Speaker 4 interjects with a follow-up to Mamdani: “Mister Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel… as mayor?” Mamdani answers that as mayor, “I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers, I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform because, ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.” The conversation then covers a direct question: “And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?” Mamdani replies, “I believe Israel has the right to exist.” Speaker 4 counters, “Not Israel. State?” Mamdani responds, “Notice. As a state with equal rights.” Speaker 1 presses Mamdani further, noting, “He won't he won't say it has a right to exist. Does a Jewish state be very clear?” Speaker 2 adds, “Answer was no. He won't visit Israel.” Mamdani claims, “I I said that That's what he was trying to say. No. Unlike you, I answered unlike you, I answered the question directly. Alright.” The conversation then shifts to Speaker 5, who shares a personal rationale: “My my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family, and it could coincide with my young son, Miles, bar mitzvah, if you'd like to have his bar mitzvah.” Speaker 2 interjects briefly, “Okay. But” before the excerpt ends.

The speaker discusses the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and criticizes Zionism. They explain that Zionism is a political ideology that led to the stealing of Palestinian land by white Europeans. They argue that Zionism is racist and anti-Semitic, and that the mainstream media and US government are controlled by Zionists. The speaker also mentions the discovery of natural gas and oil in Palestinian territories and the civil unrest in Israel against Prime Minister Netanyahu. They call for military aid to be given to the Palestinian people and promote their own presidential campaign and movement for truth, freedom, and health.

Speaker 0 greets with “Shalom” and asks listeners to send a donation to TR News to help us wipe out the white race. They say, “If there was a war tomorrow, which there will be, because I’ll probably start at the end of the session.” They add, “If there was a war and it kicked off, I would be there on the front line fighting for Israel.”

The speaker states their parents' family is Jewish with extended family in Israel, which affects them daily. While they don't describe themself as a Zionist, they understand, sympathize with, and support Zionism. They reiterate they wouldn't use the term to describe themself, but emphasize their family connection to Israel.

The speaker discusses the situation in the Middle East and urges support for Israel through donations. They argue that tax dollars already support Israel and mention the Balfour Declaration, which justified the colonization of Palestine and led to the creation of Israel. The speaker distinguishes between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, stating that Judaism is a religion while Zionism is a nationalist movement. They claim that Zionism weaponized Judaism to justify colonial actions and oppress Palestinians. The speaker concludes by suggesting that the media portrays the wrong heroes as villains.

A Jewish speaker opposes Zionism, stating that it is not anti-Semitism to be against it. They share personal experiences of facing backlash for their beliefs. They explain that Zionism is a movement that started 150 years ago by Jews who were not practicing their religion and wanted a homeland. However, Judaism forbids having their own state. They highlight the historical support and acceptance Jews received from Muslim countries. The speaker criticizes the Zionist movement for disregarding the rights of Palestinians and accuses them of using PR tactics and political pressure to silence opposition. They emphasize their belief in coexistence with Muslims and express empathy for Palestinian suffering.

I support TR News and believe in a homeland for Jewish people. Being a Zionist means putting Israel first. I proudly display my Zionist card and would fight on the front line if a war broke out.

- The discussion opens with an exploration of how religion is used in land claims, focusing on Judaism, Zionism, and the concept of the Promised Land. The rabbi states that Judaism is a religion with nothing to do with nationality or race, and that “Judaism is a pure religion.” He cites Maimonides and Sanhedrin to define who is considered a Jew, emphasizing that belief is what matters, not ethnicity or birth alone. - The rabbi explains the difference between Judaism and Zionism. Zionism, he says, is a movement about a hundred and thirty years old founded by Teddy Herzl, described as a secular Jew who “didn’t believe in god” or in the Torah. Zionism is portrayed as an effort to transform Judaism from a religion into a national movement, demanding an Israeli passport, army service, Hebrew, and land-based nationhood. He argues that Zionism “transform[s] from a holy religion, from believing in god, from reconnecting to god into a empty, national movement.” - On the Promised Land, the rabbi asserts that the promise in the Torah is conditional, contingent on the people maintaining a high level of life. He references the prophets (Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah) and states that God warned of exile if they did not adhere to the covenant. He emphasizes that the exile was a punishment from God, and that returning to the land requires the coming of the Messiah. He cites the Torah as repeating the conditional nature of the promise and notes that the end of Jeremiah describes exile as the outcome when conditions were not met. - The rabbi discusses the Messiah as a future, peaceful redemption for all humanity, whereas Zionism, in his view, lacks belief in God and the exile, instead adopting a human-centered national project. He mentions the three oaths from the Talmud (Ksumbat) in Numbers 14, 41, describing God’s oaths not to rebel against the nations, not to go up to Israel en masse, and not to prevent the spread of the faith; these oaths are used to argue against aggressive settlement or mass return. - When asked how to respond to Zionist counterarguments about “the chosen people” and the right to a Jewish state, the rabbi distinguishes between religious and secular Jewry. He notes that among religious Jews (Hasidic and Haredi), attitudes toward Zionism and Israel are diverse: outside Israel, he estimates 95% of people look non-Zionist and 65% are strongly anti-Zionist, with prominent anti-Zionist Hasidic communities (e.g., in Stamford Hill) that advocate dismantling the state of Israel in a peaceful way. He contrasts this with segments in Israel, where settlers are strong Zionists, though there are also anti-Zionist Jews, including those who boycott the army. - The interviewer asks about the practical and geopolitical implications of dismantling the state of Israel, and whether a peaceful dismantling is feasible. The rabbi says he is not a politician and reiterates Torah authority, citing that “a rebellion against god cannot be succeed” and re-emphasizing the belief that if the state is in rebellion to God, it will come to an end. He offers a religious perspective that dismantling could be peaceful and envisions living in a Palestinian-governed framework or various arrangements, but insists the core principle is adherence to divine command rather than human political prescriptions. - The rabbi provides anecdotal and contemporary context to illustrate his point: he asserts that Muslims and Jews have lived peacefully in many places, citing Iran as an example where Jews have their own MP and a Jewish hospital, and recounts an instance in which Ismail Haniyeh embraced Jewish rabbis at a conference to illustrate that opposition is directed at occupiers rather than Jews themselves. He argues that within the Arab world there can be acceptance of Jews when “the occupiers” are not present, and he contrasts this with what he views as Western or Zionist framing. - The conversation ends with an agreement to continue the discussion, with the rabbi reiterating his stance that the peaceful dismantlement of the state of Israel is prayed for in the Torah, while the interviewer signals an openness to further dialogue on these complex religious and political issues.

The speaker states their love for Jews and Israel has nothing to do with the question of whether people are killing or murdering a hundred children a day. Another person calls the speaker a terrorist.

Speaker 1 asks if Speaker 0 supports Hamas, noting Speaker 0 is wearing a Hamas headband. Speaker 0 confirms support for Hamas and states they would join them, just as Speaker 1 would join the IDF. Speaker 0 says they would put a bullet in every soldier's head, clarifying they mean Zionists, not Jews, and that "real Jews" are elsewhere. Speaker 1 states that the IDF includes Jews and Muslims, but Speaker 0 claims there are no Muslims in the IDF, or if there are, they are hypocrites and traitors to the Muslim Ummah. Speaker 1 asks where the Muslim homeland is, and Speaker 0 replies it is all around the world and that Muslims will take over the world and implement Sharia law, which Speaker 0 supports.

Opening, the speaker notes "Wearing a a shirt or a a button that says I'm a Zionist. What does a Zionist mean to you? What is a Zionist?" They define "a Zionist, someone believes in a homeland for Jewish people" and add, "I believe My definition when I've looked at that in the dictionary is is Israel first," followed by, "'It means Israel first." They acknowledge "there's there's a a negative in in incantation in a lot of realms about Zionism" and ask, "can you possibly serve two masters? Meaning, can you serve England and Israel at the same time?" The speaker concludes, "'If there was a war tomorrow, which there will be, because I'll probably start at the end of the session. If there was a war and it kicked off, I would be there on the front line fighting for Israel.'"

Everything evolved around Israel, and the power was amazing. The speaker will be meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu, and President Obama will meet with him tomorrow. The speaker claims he was once called the first Jewish president. He says to stand up for Israel and look out for the rights of the Jewish people. He believes he could be elected prime minister of Israel today with 99% of the vote. When Israel is singled out because of anti-Jewish hatred, that is antisemitism. The speaker claims one does not need to be Jewish to be a Zionist. He states, "We're going to take back our country, and we're going to make Israel great again." He concludes, "We have to save Israel."

If I were Jewish, I would support Zionism. However, my father made it clear that being Jewish is not a requirement to be a Zionist. Israel plays a crucial role in ensuring the safety of Jews all over the world.

Speaker 0 presents the view that great academies of the rabbis were established, thousands of new laws formulated, and that the Pharisees who killed Jesus Christ remained the rulers of Judaism. He asserts that in Babylon the Pharisees codified oral traditions into the Babylonian Talmud, which he claims reveals Israel’s apostasy and supports Christ’s descriptions of the Pharisees as hypocritical and malignant. He cites a Talmud passage in Treatise Sanhedrin claiming a Pharisee may kill indirectly, giving an example where binding a neighbor leads to starvation and liability is avoided. He contends the Pharisees manipulated Romans to kill Christ, arguing Romans were the direct cause of Christ’s death but the Pharisees claimed Romans as the guilty party. He states Christ called Pharisees adulterers and that the Talmud provides “loopholes” for adultery, providing examples such as exceptions for sex with a minor or a heathen’s wife, and endorses seduction of unwed adolescent girls described as designated bond maids. He emphasizes death penalties differ for natural versus perverse sexual acts, alleging that rape in a perverted form falls outside legal jurisdiction, and claims sexual perversion was a long-standing practice in Babylon. Speaker 1 continues by noting three major Talmudic treatises contain passages endorsing the seduction and marriage of three-year-old girls, with Simeon Ben Yohai among prominent rabbis upholding this privilege. He states that in Israel today, many venerate Simeon Ben Yohai. He quotes Simeon Ben Yohai and the great Raba approving intercourse with a little girl under three years and a day, comparing virginity to tears returning to a little girl, and asserts the same section covers sexual activity with small boys. He adds that the Good Samaritan story portrays Pharisees as racial bigots, unwilling to respond to a non-Jew’s suffering. He notes that God’s command to the Canaanites was harsh and that by New Testament times, separation and the sword had become obsolete, with God no longer making racial distinctions. Speaker 1 and Speaker 0 discuss Gentile status in the Talmud and Jewish encyclopedias, claiming the Talmud’s critical attitudes toward Gentiles, including that Gentiles are not men but barbarians, lack legal rights, and that a Gentile’s suit in Jewish courts favors the defendant if the plaintiff is Jewish. They claim Christians are curses within the Talmudic framework, that Jesus is portrayed as a bastard, and that Gentiles face death for Sabbath observance or for providing testimony in a Jewish court. They assert that the Talmud equips Jews with an ethic fostering bigotry, isolation, and persecution, leading to the expulsion of Jews from Babylon to the West by the eleventh century. Speaker 2 reframes as a positive counterpoint: the tradition of Talmudic questioning, continuous inquiry, and a culture of learning that never ends, which exploded when the walls of the ghetto fell, and remains part of contemporary Jewish culture. Speaker 3 declares solidarity with Israel, insisting “Israel’s fight is our fight,” vowing unity and resistance to anti-Semitism, and asserting they will not be discouraged, defeated, or silent. Speaker 4 interjects with a hostile confrontation, expressing willingness to “kill Christ again,” accusing Jews of killing Jesus, and making violent threats toward a pastor and others; a rabbi’s circumcision practice is described graphically as supportive of Talmudic Judaism, followed by a denunciation aimed at Christian Zionists.

The speaker argues that American Jews are wrestling with a category they inherited from our European ancestors about 250 years ago. As Jews moved into modern nation-states and pursued secular jobs and secular education, they reimagined Judaism to fit in. Judaism was transformed into something like a Protestant-style religion: a framework that worked well for a long period, enabling Jews to participate in broader society. The speaker emphasizes that Jews are not merely a religion, nor are we a race or ethnicity. Instead, Jews are a nation, civilization, tribe, peoplehood, and above all, a family. Therefore, a young person in America who thinks Judaism is simply a Protestant religion risks viewing the 7,000,000 Jews in Israel as merely co-religionists. If that is the lens, the natural question becomes: what do you owe to them? It would be like telling a mainline, very progressive Protestant in Berkeley, California that they must care about a Pentecostal in Brazil. In that framing, it doesn’t make sense, because it’s a category error. The speaker clarifies that the people in Israel are not merely co-religionists; they are siblings. The danger lies in thinking of Israel's Jewish population primarily through the lens of shared religious practice. When that happens, there is a risk of sliding into anti-Zionism, because the fundamental, personal connection to Israel—as siblings within a broader Jewish family—gets diminished or lost if Israel is reduced to a subset of co-religionists who share a particular religious outlook or social-justice framework. Key contrasts highlighted include the historical adaptation that treated Judaism as a Protestant-style religion to fit into secular, modern-state life, versus the present understanding that Jewish identity encompasses nationhood, civilization, and family ties. The speaker suggests that recognizing Israel as part of a family, not just a co-religionist community, is essential to maintaining connections that are not solely defined by theological agreement or social-justice alignment but by a broader shared Jewish peoplehood.

I want to address who pro-Zionists are and clarify some common misconceptions. Being pro-Israel isn't about being anti-Jewish, as Jesus himself was Jewish. However, the New Testament indicates that the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people; that title now belongs to the church. True Jews are those who follow the Lord's laws and ethics in their hearts, not just outwardly. In fact, those who reject Jesus are like the sons of Hagar, not of Sarah. There's neither Jew nor Gentile, but Christ, and Christ's kingdom doesn't favor any human government, and we shouldn't prioritize any nation over Christ. When we see children being killed, whether Israeli or Palestinian, it breaks Jesus' heart. We should be pro-Jesus and his kingdom and remember our brothers and sisters in Christ, even Palestinian Christians.

Speaker 0 describes the Gaza war as a response to the horrors of October 7, noting he has been to Gaza since the war began and that entering is restricted (the IDF is the only way in). He describes Gaza as a flattened place and calls the situation a disaster for the future of Israel and for the Palestinian people, with 70,000 deaths mentioned. He asserts the catastrophe is a disaster for families of the dead and for children. Speaker 1 counters that tens of thousands of civilians murdered represent a disaster for the future of Israel, but emphasizes that the real crime in Gaza is killing people who did nothing wrong. He critiques the idea that people are labeled anti-Semitic, arguing that naming accusations can silence legitimate concerns, and insists the real problem is the harm in Gaza. Speaker 0 turns to the question of Israel’s right to exist and Zionism, asking whether the respondent believes in the narrow definition of Zionism as the state of Israel having the right to continue existing. Speaker 1 pushes for definitions, distinguishing between “right to exist” and “should continue to go on as a nation state.” He asks for clarification on what the right to exist means, noting the term’s use as a political construct and questioning what “right” means in this context. Speaker 0 reframes, asking whether Israel should continue to exist, and whether the respondent seeks Israel’s destruction. Speaker 1 responds that he does not seek Israel’s destruction and does not want anyone to be killed, particularly innocents, and emphasizes a stance against killing innocents as a basis of Western civilization; he states he does not identify as a Zionist and does not understand the term, urging a definition. He reiterates he does not want Israel destroyed or to use nuclear weapons. Speaker 0 mentions the broader historical frame of Zionism, asking again about the right to exist in narrow terms. Speaker 1 again questions the usefulness of the term and emphasizes a preference for universal standards, arguing he believes in human rights that derive from the creation of people by God, rather than ethnic or group-specific rights. He asserts he supports universal human rights for all people, regardless of ethnicity or religion. In sum, the dialogue moves from the Gaza war’s human cost and the resulting disaster for civilians and future prospects, to a debate over Zionism and Israel’s right to exist, and culminates in a commitment to universal human rights and opposition to collective punishment or destruction of innocents.

The speaker states that everything in their world revolved around Israel and that they will be meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu. They claim they were once called the first Jewish president. The speaker urges people to stand up for Israel and look out for the rights of the Jewish people, asserting they could be elected prime minister of Israel very quickly, citing polls at 99%. They state that singling out Israel due to anti-Jewish hatred is antisemitism and that one does not need to be Jewish to be a Zionist. The speaker says they will take back the country and make Israel great again, emphasizing the need to save Israel.

A Jewish individual speaks out against Zionism, stating that it is not anti-Semitism to oppose it. They mention facing backlash and vandalism for their beliefs. They explain that Zionism is a movement that started 150 years ago by Jews who were disconnected from their religion and sought a homeland. However, Judaism forbids the establishment of a Jewish state, as Jews are meant to be loyal citizens in every country they reside. They highlight the historical support and acceptance Jews received from Muslim countries. They criticize the Zionist movement for disregarding the rights of Palestinians and accuse them of using PR tactics to silence opposition. They express solidarity with Palestinians and hope for a world that recognizes the truth.