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Antisemitism is “you know, it’s always kind of lurking underneath, and you need sometimes sometimes events over the years, you know, pull it out.” The speaker recalls Captain Dreyfus being accused of treason in France and Theodor Herzl watching, and suddenly, “kill Dreyfus, kill all the Jews.” The question is, where did “kill all the Jews” come from? The response is that, from one guy, antisemitism can surge. The speaker notes that today we have our Dreyfus again. We have the war. We have Jeffrey Epstein, who, the speaker says, “hated Israel,” and “had nothing there was nothing about him that was Jewish. Didn’t observe Judaism, didn’t practice Judaism.” The speaker adds as a side thought: “If you don’t mind me jumping in on this,” and then discusses a common claim: people say you can be anti-Zionist without being anti-Semitic, arguing that Judaism is just a religion, not a nationality, so they are not against the religion but against the nation, and it “shouldn’t be considered a nation.” The speaker then contends that Epstein is not a Jew under that standard because there is nothing about him that identifies with Israel. The only related claim is that “one of his emails says, I hate Israel. Right? There’s nothing about him that is religious at all.” However, when it comes to antisemitism, the speaker asserts, “he’s a Jew.” That is presented as the final point on Epstein’s case. The speaker mentions Epstein “tried to work with a former prime minister,” calling that his only connection. The former prime minister referred to is David Barak, described as not in politics for many, many years and having no influence in Israel, and “is the, kind of, the main political antagonist of Netanyahu.” The transcript notes that Epstein’s only connection was with David Barak, and that Barak is viewed as Netanyahu’s main political antagonist, despite Barak’s long absence from active politics. The passage ends with that acknowledgment of Epstein’s connection being limited to Barak.

Speaker 1: 'You know, I I have friends over there, but they stopped talking to me when I did not unconditionally support what they're doing.' 'Right. So I I can't really say with absolute certainty, but I suspect that things are not good.' 'I think mister Netanyahu knows that the the issue for the Israelis from the very beginning of this tragedy and I say tragedy because I think eventually it will come out that seven October was allowed to happen, that July was not a surprise. There's plenty of evidence on the street right now.' 'And if that comes out, I think mister Netanyahu and his friends are gonna be in very serious trouble at home.' Speaker 0: 'Well, that's gonna be jail.' Speaker 1: 'Used as an excuse to to sort of practice arson across the region.'

As a special envoy, meeting with various people, regardless of their nature, is part of my job to assist Americans. Meeting with Hamas was something that we had discussed beforehand. When you sit in front of them knowing what they've done, it's hard not to think of it, but realizing that every piece of a person is human can be productive. Regarding the American hostages in Gaza, one is alive, and four bodies remain. I think Israel has done a masterful job eliminating enemies of the state. I believe a long-term truce is possible where prisoners are forgiven, Hamas lays down arms and agrees to not be part of the political party going forward. I understand Israel's concern regarding direct contact with Hamas and it's important to know what Hamas realistically wants to end hostilities. Something could come together within weeks and I believe there is enough there to make a deal to get all of the prisoners out, not just the Americans.

I was shocked and sickened by the reaction of the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death. He basically made it all about him and redirected the grief toward support for his project. "Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all." "BB's defenders, on the Internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact." "what he said was completely untrue." "Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there." "He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times." "He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force." "He was resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using The United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country." "Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie; he had $100,000,000 worth of donors." "Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point Conference in December." "They put out a flyer basically saying that I was going to be at this event giving a speech."

Without light, there's no path from this darkness. I understand the passion of the people and have been working quietly with the Israeli government to reduce their presence in Gaza. Thank you.

I've lost a lot of friends. I've particularly in the Israel question, I've never talked about Israel. I'm not a hater of Israel. Netanyahu is really hurting The United States and the world. It's completely out of control. Over twenty years, twenty five years. And, so I've always had that view, but I've kept it to myself because it's not worth it. But we've been pushed so hard and used so much by him that it's just terrible for the country that I I grew up in. And so I've said something and, you know, you do that and people you really, like, had dinner with and really liked are all of a sudden denouncing you as a Nazi or whatever. I never wanted that and it makes me sad now.

Asked about the last meeting with Charlie, it wasn't 'about, like, this is what you should say,' but 'talking through the issues' with Charlie asking questions and 'then saying, Okay, I think I'm going to approach this issue this way and this is going to be my position on it.' They discussed 'USA to Israel,' and 'I'm opposed to USA to Israel. I want it to be drawn down,' noting Netanyahu's stance. They talked through 'why is Israel actually an American interest?' 'Why is it in America's interest to support Israel?' Charlie was a listener, and 'the open marketplace of ideas' was a core fundamental. He believed in that, which is why he annoyed people by platforming Tucker Carlson and others, because for Charlie, 'the idea that you're supposed to silence any opinion was anathema.' 'Do I think he went too far with it? Well, yes.'

Let me explain something about what is called the Jewish lobby in this country. Their belief is that being for Israel first, that that does not mean you're putting America second. An American president, however, has to approach it in a different way in my opinion. He's got always to think first of what is best for America. An American president must make a decision that does not in effect give the Israelis a blank check. And one example of that is a decision that I made. I decided early on in our administration that we were going to seek good relations with Egypt and other others of Israel's neighbors. Many of my Israeli friends didn't like that because they wanted a special relationship with Israel and Israel only.

And Netanyahu is a madman, and I repeat that to me. He's a madman. I met him years ago. I interviewed him when he was out of office, and, I thought he was a madman then. And I I think he's gotten worse and worse and worse. He's truly insane. I've never seen such a slaughter. And Netanyahu is a madman, and I repeat that to me. He's a madman. I met him years ago. I interviewed him when he was out of office, and, I thought he was a madman then. And I I think he's gotten worse and worse and worse. He's truly insane. I've never seen such a slaughter.

Both sides' willingness to make a lasting deal is questioned. One side may not want a deal, while the other side might. Showing too much of our cards can hinder negotiations. A skilled dealmaker could potentially make a deal if Israel is willing. The speaker had a positive meeting with Abbas, who seemed open to making a deal. However, it is believed that Netanyahu never wanted to make a deal. The speaker's perception of the Palestinians and Israelis changed after these meetings.

- "I believe that the American government is sort of trapped by the Israelis. Jeffrey Epstein is one of their tools to trap them." - "Bill Clinton, president Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak met Arafat in the nineties, and there was no deal. The reason was Epstein. They were being blackmailed by Epstein." - "They were about to reach an agreement there for a two state solution, but that was stopped because of Epstein." - "And I believe the Israelis have the American government captive due to what happened what happens with Epstein or what happened in the past with Epstein." - "But everything is stuck over Gazelle." - "I don't think Trump wants to continue this war or the genocide. I think it's the Israelis holding him back." - "John f Kennedy was assassinated with Israeli intelligence help."

I had a great meeting with Abbas, who I felt was very nice. After a brief meeting with Netanyahu, I realized he may not want to make a deal. I used to think Israelis were willing to do anything for peace, but now I see that may not be the case.

"the war on terror had been a net loss for The United States, and it caused incalculable damage, not just economic and physical damage, but spiritual damage to The United States. It was it was bad. We got nothing out of it. We were only hurt." He recalls a backstage conversation before a July speech, railing against "the effort by the neocons in The United States to draw us in to another forever war with Iran," noting that Iraq had been entered "at the behest of those same foreign policy strategists, and it didn't work." He resisted mentioning it publicly at first, but was urged to "Go all the way. Do it." He then did. He mentions Epstein: "Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli intelligence and American intelligence and French intelligence, but the only one you're not allowed to talk about is Israeli intelligence." I was shocked and sickened by the reaction of the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the prime minister of in Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death.

You see, Sabrina, read the comments from your own community. You've failed them. You've absolutely failed them. You've cozied up to people and tried to be friends with people who want to see the destruction of the only Jewish homeland. They're they're your friends. I don't associate with jihadists, Islamists, anti Semites, Jew hatred. I won't give them a time of day. You hang around with them. That's the difference between me and you. And I speak facts and truth, and that's uncomfortable for you because you're a coward, and that's it. You have a problem with me because you think you can cozy up and be nice to the Islamists, and they might just leave you alone. Because of people like you, you allow it to happen. Not me. I won't allow it to happen. That's the difference between us.

I met with Zelensky this morning, advising him to remain grateful and positive, promising to discuss security guarantees later. However, what I witnessed was an absolute disaster, making me question if Americans can still see him favorably. Most Americans, including myself after seeing that, wouldn't want to partner with Zelensky. Last night, I spoke with President Trump, who was optimistic about a potential deal. I'm incredibly proud of President Trump for demonstrating strength. He aims for a ceasefire and an end to the war, but Zelensky seemed to provoke him in the Oval Office.

Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all. "Bibi is despised by many people, in Israel." There are "huge divisions within the Israeli government," and "parts of the intel world in Israel that do not support some things Benjamin Netanyahu has done recently." "his attempt to hijack Charlie's memory and use it for his own political ends, particularly because what he said was completely untrue." "Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews. He loved the state of Israel, loved going there." He "did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times, and to people around him many times." "He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force." He was "appalled by what was happening in Gaza," and he "resented Netanyahu using The United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for The United States."

I really pushed hard for this meeting and called a lot of people who know him and were in regular contact with him. I went to see some of those people directly. Please, can you help me get a sit down for five minutes with Benjamin Netanyahu? I probably called or met with six, seven, eight, maybe more people on this question. People in official capacities, people in the Israeli government. I know a number of people in the Israeli government, people in Israel, a friend of mine in California who knows him. I really, really tried. And I did so for two reasons. One, because there was a threat to my family. The Israeli government and Netanyahu himself tried to punish two members of my family. I won’t be more specific, but actually punished two members of my family because he, as he has said in public many times, believes in blood guilt. Amalek, you know, when someone commits a crime against you, you punish not just him, but his family, his bloodline. There’s no idea that’s less Western than that, more anti Christian than that. Christians reject that. Netanyahu doesn’t. That’s why he’s talking about Amalek, and he was going after my family, literally. So I felt very threatened by that. But, moreover, I think it’s bad for my country to have people using that kind of language, round them up, bring them to the camps, gas chambers, Nazis, antisemitism. It scares the heck out of people. It makes people crazy and hysterical. And certainly in my case, none of that is true. I hate collective punishment. I hate attacking people on the basis of their bloodline. I hate antisemitism and anti white racism and all of this or any kind of racism, period. And I’ve said that a lot. So using that kind of language against someone who is not fundamentally your enemy, just, in my case, I want Christians in areas controlled by Israel to be treated with dignity, to have rights. And I don’t want the US government involved in a war, a regime change war with Iran. Those are my priorities and I’ve said them out loud. I have no secret agenda.

Let me explain something about what is called the Jewish lobby in this country. Their belief is that being for Israel first, that that does not mean you're putting America second. An American president, however, has to approach it in a different way, in my opinion. He's got always to think first of what is best for America. An American president must make a decision, that does not in effect give the Israelis a blank check. And one example of that is a decision that I made. I decided early on in our administration that we were going to seek good relations with Egypt and other others of Israel's neighbors. Many of my Israeli friends didn't like that because they wanted a special relationship with Israel and Israel only.

I think Bibi is completely evil and completely destructive, "hurting The United States" and "destroying his own country" and I think he imperils the world. They believe they're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount to "build a third temple," risking "global war." They ask, "What's Lindsey Graham's excuse?" and "What's Ted Cruz's excuse?" They quote Cruz: "I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." I came into congress with the stated intention of being the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate. "I've worked every day to do that." "Really? Ted, how did you get on a platform ... my main goal is to help another country? This is deranged. Where's our self respect? I don't want you to think about it. You know, I'm not interested. I'm very interested in how American leaders could betray their own country. That enrages me."

Change because I don't think you need a ceasefire. "The six deals that I settled this year, they were all at war. I didn't do any ceasefires." He says a ceasefire "might be good to have," but strategically why "one country or the other wouldn't want it" since "you have a ceasefire and they rebuild and rebuild and rebuild and, you know, maybe they don't want that." He adds that "if you look at the six deals that we made peace and... long term, long running wars, I didn't do any ceasefires." He notes, "What I like? I like the concept... of a ceasefire for one reason because you'd stop killing people immediately as opposed to a two weeks or one week or whatever it takes." "But we can work a deal where we're working on a peace deal while they're fighting." "They have to fight. I wish they could stop. I'd like them to stop. But strategically, that could be a disadvantage for one side or the other." "But all of these deals I made without even the mention of the words ceasefire."

I've lost a lot of friends. And I've particularly in the Israel question, I've never talked about Israel. I'm not a hater of Israel. Certainly not a hater of Jews. But Netanyahu is really hurting The United States and the world. It's completely out of control. I've thought that for a very long time, Over twenty years, twenty five years. I never wanted that and it makes me sad now. Friends who denounce you as Nazi for your honest opinion are not really friends. I've lost one real friend Right. In the past ten years. One actual friend, and I and I feel it's painful for me. And it wasn't about Israel, but we just diverged politically and he could not be friends with me.

As he was preparing for his campus tour, he decided that he wanted to have a meeting. Josh Hammer was on the call. I was on the call and a couple of Charlie's staff to talk through Israel issues. He was he was really grappling with these issues. I remember right after October 7, I was a little concerned about some of the things he was saying afterwards, and I wasn't so emotional. But I realized Charlie was looking at a lot of the Israel America stuff through the America first lens. The fact that he was meeting with you to refine his talking points, I assumed there was a lot of pushback. When when, you know, that reporter asked me what the mood of the meeting was, and I said it was combative. There's also within him a very faithful, bible believing evangelical Christian.

Donald Trump was working to bring peace between Iran and Israel, and Israel didn’t want that at all. They tried to murder the negotiators in that round of peace talks from Hamas in Doha, and they tried to tell the world that Trump signed off on this, that Trump knew, totally false. Trump did not know. Not only did they do this, they tried to implicate Trump in it. A couple of weeks later he responded with an executive order that I’m going to read verbatim because it’s bet not one in a hundred people knows this even happened. This was in September: he signed an executive order called the Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar. The order states: The United States and the State of Qatar have been bound together by close cooperation, shared interests, and the close relationship between our armed forces. The State of Qatar has hosted The United States forces, enabled critical security operations, and stood as a steadfast ally in pursuit of peace, stability, and prosperity both in The Middle East and abroad, including as a mediator that has assisted The United States attempts to resolve significant regional and global conflicts. Listen: In recognition of this history and in light of the continuing threats to the state of Qatar posed by foreign aggression, it is the policy of The US to guarantee the security and territorial integrity of the state of Qatar against external attack. The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the state of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of The United States. Oh, wait a second. What was the last act of foreign aggression against Qatar? What happened that exact same month? It was a bombing by Israel. So Israel bombs Qatar and Donald Trump issues an executive order saying if you do that again, reading by the language here, we’re going to war with you. Donald Trump took the side of Qatar over and above Israel and told Israel, and who knows if he’d actually do it, it’s in the executive order, If you do this again, that’s tantamount to an attack on us. That’s a security guarantee. Keep that in mind because there are a lot of Trump voters who are upset about nine eleven; the residue was still in their mouth. That part of the world did it to us. Islam did it to us. And anyone who wants to have a normal relationship with an Islamic country is probably pro Al Qaeda. I get it. I know those feelings. Had them. But here Donald Trump, the guy that you voted for taking Qatar’s side against Israel. Why is that? Because Donald Trump is a secret Islamist? No. Because Qatar is a lot better for The United States than Israel has been.

I was shocked and sickened by the reaction of the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death. Basically made it all about him and all about his country immediately trying to take the energy, the sadness, the grief that people felt over Charlie's murder and redirect it towards support for whatever project he's involved in. Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all. Bibi is despised by many people in Israel. There are huge divisions within the Israeli government. I mean, are certain parts of the intel world in Israel that do not support some things that Benjamin Netanyahu has done recently. Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews. He had tons of friends who were Jews. He loved the state of Israel. Loved going there. He did not like B. B. Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times, and he said to people around him many times. He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force. He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza. He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using The United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for The United States, and he resented it. There's no question that BB's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact. Enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short order.

He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends. What's remarkable to me is how effective he's been at that and how contemptuous he is. "80% of Americans this is an old one. 80% of Americans support us." "BB is completely evil and completely destructive." "He's hurting The United States and he's destroying his own country and I think he imperils the world." "They're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque" "to build the third temple, and then you've got global war." "No, I am way, way more angry at my leaders than I am at Netanyahu. Much it's not even close." "Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." "Where's our self respect?" "anti Semitism very often is a way to pass the buck." "It's their fault." "Why are we allowing this?"