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One speaker recounts that he did not like Bibi Netanyahu, describing Netanyahu as a destructive force and saying he was appalled by what was happening in Gaza, and that Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute wars for the benefit of his country, which he called shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, a view he resented. He also notes that he didn’t hate Netanyahu. After that speech, there was a sharp backlash against Charlie Kirk and, to a lesser extent, the speaker, with Kirk having about $100 million in donors and being heavily dependent on them because his project was nonprofit. They went after him and tormented him, while a small, very intense group offended by the speech tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.

Speaker 0: "The whole country is a fortress." He says, "you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun that's an IDF soldier." The country is "surveilled." He adds, "The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war," noting "hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution." He says, "Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead." He asks, "Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order?" Speaker 1: "I'm so fucking glad that people found this clip again" after sharing it, saying he was "one of very few people" saying the same thing and facing backlash. He recalls finding "a clip from Charlie Kirk" that helped shift the narrative, though "the clip disappeared and I couldn't find it anymore." He notes "There was he was on Ben Shapiro not long ago talking about why we cannot criticize Israel." "That's my biggest interaction with Charlie Kirk" and that "there were a few of us" trying to push the message until "it started to get picked up."

Speaker 0 recalls watching Charlie Kirk’s memorial in Malaysia and an “extremely coordinated onslaught” by high-level actors who claimed the passage was “not just offensive, but was one of the worst blood libels ever uttered in a public setting since World War two” and that it “intended to imply that Israel was behind the killing of Charlie Kirk.” Speaker 1 frames the passage as the Christian gospel: “Ultimately, he was a Christian evangelist” who “tells the truth about the people in power” and that “they hate it and they become obsessed with making him stop”—“they end up torturing him to death to kill him, and then... it becomes the world's biggest religion.” He says he did not intend to attack Jews, criticizes antisemitism and Zionism for seeing everything as about Jews, calling that attitude “sick” and “bad for this country,” and urges treating Israel as a country with overlapping interests. He cites ADL pressure and stresses repentance in the Christian message.

Charlie Kirk's interview with Megyn Kelly is highlighted, showing him fed up with attacks. 'However, Megan, you're hitting on something very potent and important.' He continues, 'I don't wanna judge an entire group because there's been many people in the Paris World that have been sweet, kind, nuanced, Charlie.' 'I love Israel. I want Israel to win.' But he adds, 'But my moral character is now being put into question, Megan.' He says attacks come from 'the people that are attacking me are in a hyperparanoid state because they're at war.' He invites viewers: 'If you too, just like Charlie, are starting to wake up and notice and you really wanna understand this animal that is Israel, swing over to Ian Carroll's YouTube channel and check out the documentary we just pre produced called creating Israel.' 'It's the perfect icebreaker,' and asks, 'Why is that America? Keep asking those questions.'

The speaker claims that criticisms of Israel's policies are being labeled antisemitic, and warns that free speech is at risk. They allege that the definition of antisemitism is being broadened, even to include parts of the Bible, and that the Trump administration is pushing this on college campuses. The speaker highlights a rabbi's call for hate speech laws at a Senate hearing on antisemitism, likening the rhetoric to that of Ibram X. Kendi during the BLM movement. They express concern that the Trump administration is now enacting similar measures regarding antisemitism, not for the benefit of American Jews, but for Israel's interests. The speaker suggests that Netanyahu is influencing the White House and that Trump is complying with demands that undermine American freedom. They urge listeners to recognize this shift, regardless of Trump's previous stances.

Megan Kelly and Charlie Kirk frame themselves as ardent defenders of Israel, urging caution against conflating critique with anti-Semitism. They argue that some in the pro-Israel camp punish mild pushback, harming credibility as they face online harassment and accusations of anti-Semitism, including Epstein/Mossad speculation. They cite a culture of hyperparanoia and insist they are Americans first. Megan recalls a Piers Morgan segment: she said 'the photos of the starving children out of Gaza' and 'they're manipulated, and they're masters of propaganda' and 'it's Hamas,' and that she is skeptical of taking those images at face value. They warn Israel risks losing standing with allies as support shifts: 'GOP in June 2024, 76%. Now 71%'; 'Dems in October 2023, 36%. Now it's at eight'; 'Independents ...(47%). Now it's 25%.' They defend hosting diverse voices—'you have no right to come on this show and demand a debate with me'.

Speaker alleges that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Zionists because he challenged donors who wanted to buy him; when he refused, that refusal became his death sentence, and they murdered him. They claim the murder is being exploited to push legislation and laws that shut down free speech, including actions against TikTok. The speaker describes an 'IDF lunatic' running the system and calls this 'a whole plan' being carried out in America. They argue the First Amendment will be attacked despite constitutional protections. They frame the Charlie Kirk episode as an effort to silence pro-Palestine and pro-freedom voices. The speaker asserts, 'they can't kill us all' and suggests the guilt belongs to the colonizers, not Palestine.

The speaker claims that opposition to Israeli policies is being labeled antisemitism, and free speech is threatened. They allege that the definition of antisemitism is being broadened, even to include parts of the Bible, and that the Trump administration is pushing this on college campuses. The speaker references a senate hearing on antisemitism where Rabbi Levi Shemtov called for hate speech laws, using rhetoric similar to Ibram X. Kendi's "anti-racist" stance. The speaker suggests that the Trump administration is now enacting policies similar to those they opposed during the BLM movement, but this time in the name of combating antisemitism, which the speaker believes is actually for the benefit of Israel. They feel Netanyahu is running the White House and that Trump is supporting Israel at the detriment to American freedom.

Speakers Megan and Charlie Kirk frame themselves as Israel supporters defending Israel's right to defend itself and fighting campus anti-Semitism. They lament that some in the pro-Israel camp label any mild pushback as anti-Semitic, which they say undermines credibility and unity. They recount being attacked online and in media after nuanced takes, including Epstein/Mossad speculation; they insist discussing such possibilities should be allowed and that labeling anyone raising questions as anti-Semitic is divisive. They contrast an American-first stance with global opinion, noting that support for Israel's Gaza actions has fallen among Democrats (from 36% in Oct 2023 to 8%), independents (47% to 25%), and Republicans (76% to 71%). They discuss a Piers Morgan interview where nuance about Gaza images was criticized; they argue that Israel’s actions are eroding moral standing even among close allies. They pledge to continue honest coverage and push back against purity-tests.

Megan Kelly and Charlie Kirk discuss backlash for defending Israel while resisting criticisms, arguing that "some in the pro Israel camp are so knee jerk about calling you anti Semitic or getting deeply offended if you say anything that doesn't align with their narrative that it undermines their own cause." They challenge antisemitism accusations tied to Epstein/Mossad speculation, saying, "What the hell? That's such bullshit." They insist "We are Americans first, period. End of story" against a "sea of Islamic totalitarianism." They warn that Israel has "made itself the villain of the world" and note Democrats have turned. They cite polling: "GOP in June 2024, 76%... Now 71%... Dems in October 2023, 36%. Now it's at eight." They add, "the more you attack our moral character, the actually the more we're gonna double down," and describe Gaza imagery as propaganda: "they're manipulated and they're masters of propaganda."

- "Charlie Kirk is the pro Zionist guy." - "What if they were listening in to him and he was in communications with people saying, hey. I think I'm gonna go this direction and they knew his intentions or saw this pattern." - "Here's this pro Zionist guy with this incredibly powerful platform that they built, by the way, that Charlie has, thanks to them." - "So if he's gonna take what they gave him and turn it against them, that could literally destroy Israel because the youth is people they're most concerned about." - "We can't let him turn." - "Israel was never my top suspect until, you know, I've spent twenty four hours thinking about it, I'm like, it's not unreasonable. It's not even out of the question in terms of would Israel do this." - "it's in their wheelhouse."

This segment recounts escalating pressure on Charlie Kirk over Israel debates. A speaker says: "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." Kirk says his "moral character is now being put into question" and "I am a bad person if I do this." The piece notes threats to pull funding and that he faced pressure about inviting people, asking "How could Charlie allow these debates about Israel to take place?" It describes a "duress situation" at the Hamptons, with Bill Ackman allegedly pressuring Kirk as Beebe Netanyahu offered "an intervention" and funding. "We just need you to come to Israel and we can make this better" and "We just need you to come to Auschwitz and take a picture." Kirk reportedly "denied that funding" and "Charlie said no to Bebe." Beebe's timing is claimed: "less than twenty four hours after Charlie Kirk was shot."

Hello, I'm Ted Pike, and this is my wife, Alain. Israel operates a powerful lobby in Congress through AIPAC, receiving nearly $5 billion annually. Elected officials avoid criticizing Israel due to fear of being labeled antisemitic, which can end their careers. The President also knows that to oppose Israel is political suicide. The media, largely controlled by Jewish interests, promotes the narrative that criticism of Israel equates to antisemitism. Consequently, our leaders are constrained by political correctness regarding Israel, unable to address its role in Middle Eastern conflict or suggest ending aid.

Speaker 0 describes a "permanent condition of fear" among commentators—"walking through a minefield" and fearing "If you step on the landmine, you die." "That's the way that the wind is blowing" toward criticizing Israel to maintain legitimacy on the right. In Clip Six, Charlie Kirk tells Megyn Kelly, "Look, I am I'm I'm afraid... I want civilization to win... I don't want the Islam of fascist barbarians to storm the gates of Jerusalem. I want the holy sites protected. I believe in the holy land." He warns that "you will weaken and deflate two of your strongest advocates if that continues." The speaker urges Kirk: "Tell them to go f themselves, and you tell the truth." "You're the Golem. You're the Golem, Charlie Kirk... Arise."

From Israel's perspective, "Charlie Kirk is the pro Zionist guy. He is the pro Israel guy." The speaker notes that without context it wouldn’t make sense to claim Israel would kill him, but asks what if they were listening and he was in communications with people saying, "hey. I think I'm gonna go this direction and they knew his intentions or saw this pattern." They describe "this pro Zionist guy with this incredibly powerful platform that they built, by the way, that Charlie has, thanks to them," and warn that if "he's gonna take what they gave him and turn it against them" it "could literally destroy Israel because the youth is people they're most concerned about." Charlie "is the dude when it comes to Israel." "We can't let him turn" and if he starts to turn and "we take him out before he ever really genuinely turns, and then he's the Zionist martyr"—blame on the Palestinian—could "unify the right" and silence critics. The speaker concedes: "I Israel was never my top suspect" but now thinks "it's not unreasonable" and that "it's in their wheelhouse." It shows how much they needed Charlie Kirk—"nobody's gonna be defending them anymore" and "their reputation is in the toilet."

"And that suits the Israelis just fine." "And if you're wondering why there's an awful lot of lunatic antisemitic comment about Israel online, you have to wonder how much of that is organic." "But how much of it is not organic at all?" "How much of that is being ginned up on purpose to make legitimate questions about the US government's relationship with the government of Israel seem like crackpot stuff, like hate, like David Duke level lunacy?" "Probably some because it serves their interest." "And so the true shame here, the actual villain in the story is the leadership of The United States that is putting up with serial humiliation for decades." "You'd think every country would act that way, and most do." "And for what reason? So if there's someone to be mad at, it's our leaders."

Speaker 0 expresses that "The behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away" and that he is accused of being an anti-Semite despite "I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath." He notes online backlash, "thousands of tweets and text messages," and that his "moral character is now being put into question" for supporting Israel. Speaker 1 agrees the treatment is unfair, saying "Dave Smith isn't allowed to criticize Israel" and that "the Israeli side was overrepresented." They discuss Americans first, resisting accusations, and the difficulty of criticizing the Israeli government online. They reference Epstein's controversial topic and say they hosted a debate giving "equal time to Josh Hammer, equal time to a pro Israel advocate." They observe a "hyperparanoid state" online and wonder if patterns resemble "nineteen thirties Germany."

Speaker 0: "Israel operates the most powerful lobby in congress" (APAC), and "through control of congress, Israel demands and gets nearly $5,000,000,000 annually." It claims "No elected official dares criticize Israel" for fear "the Jewish lobby will accuse him of antisemitism, the kiss of death for any politician," and that "the president also knows what Israel wants, Israel gets." It states "The mass media founded and controlled primarily by Jews manipulates the spigot of information out of which Heartland America drinks" and that "if you criticize Israel, you are antisemitic." "Keep your head down, or you are fair game for being knocked off by the Zionist shooting gallery." Speaker 1: "our president and elected officials are slaves to political correctness when it comes to Jews and Israel." They "cannot seriously criticize Israel," cannot end aid to Israel, and "cannot even protest Zionist control of congress."

Megan and Charlie Kirk, both vocal defenders of Israel, say the pro-Israel camp overreacts to criticism by labeling dissenters as anti Semitic, which they believe undermines credibility: "the behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away." They recount personal harassment, including "you must be anti Semitic" when raising Epstein/Mossad discussions, and say "What the hell? That's such bullshit." They defend their American-first stance: "We are Americans first, period. End of story," and insist they want Israel to win, even as they note the debate harms Israel's standing. Megan warns that "Israel has made itself the villain of the world" and cites Trump's remark "time to wrap it up." They cite shifting U.S. public opinion: GOP 76% to 71%; Dems 36% to 8%; independents 47% to 25%. They discuss broadcasts, focus groups, and backlash on social media.

Ted Pike and his wife Alin argue that Israel operates the most powerful lobby in Congress through APAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. They claim that through this influence, Israel demands and receives nearly $5,000,000,000 annually. They assert that no elected official dares criticize Israel for fear that the Jewish lobby will accuse him of antisemitism, the kiss of death for any politician. They state that the president also knows what Israel wants and that Israel gets it; acting otherwise is political suicide. They claim the mass media, founded and controlled primarily by Jews, manipulates the spigot of information from which Heartland America drinks, and that the message is: if you criticize Israel, you are antisemitic. They warn listeners to be safe, keep their heads down, or they are fair game for being knocked off by the Zionist shooting gallery. Speaker 1 adds that as a result, our president and elected officials are slaves to political correctness when it comes to Jews and Israel. They cannot seriously criticize Israel, especially as the source of Mideast strike and terrorism. They cannot suggest an end of aid to Israel. They cannot even protest Zionist control of Congress.

Speaker argues that 'you and the Likud party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America.' They reference 'Charlie Kirk's assassination, who was a big mentor of mine' and say 'Evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews.' They note 'So with Charlie's assassination and with the kind of trajectory that we see with, like, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.' They ask 'what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel.' 'What's our backup plan to be strong, like outside of the diaspora?'

Speaker asserts: "No one... outside of my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut me up right now. That's it. Two people." She says appeals must go to them, calling out frantic donors' attempts to politicize the situation because "they know I'm telling the truth," including "Frantic calls from Seth Dillon." She claims "Charlie was under immense pressure, and he was face facing financial threats" over his stance on Israel and whom he hosted for America Fest (Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson). "I looked you in your face and I said no to your money." She warns, "Don't push me, or I will name more names. What happens in the Hamptons is not going to stay in the Hamptons." Attendees say Charlie was "pressed." On day one, he argued it was wrong he couldn't publicly criticize Israel; a tweet about Netanyahu resigning prompted Seth Dillon to say "that would be antisemitic." "Josh Hammer" was upset, "part of the beehive" swarming him. She offers her platform to dispute, demanding answers and denouncing "misrepresentation by Beebe" and his echo in America, naming "Josh Hammer" and "Seth Dono." She mentions "Bill Ackman" and a "phone call" about Israel.

"You still don't get it, do you? While you're busy arguing about pronouns and microaggressions, we're moving in, not just to your neighborhoods, but into your institutions." "You welcome us in the name of tolerance, and we smile." "We reshape the curriculum." "We gain political power." "We silence critics by calling them racist or Islamophobic." "You think we care about the Palestinians?" "Egypt and Jordan ruled that land for decades, and no one said a word." "Palestine is a tool, a symbol to distract you, divide you, and guilt you into giving up your own values."

Hello, I'm Ted Pike, and this is my wife, Alain. Israel operates a powerful lobby in Congress, known as AIPAC, which secures nearly $5 billion annually. Elected officials avoid criticizing Israel due to fears of being labeled antisemitic, which can end their political careers. The President is also aware that to oppose Israel is political suicide. The media, largely controlled by Jewish interests, promotes the narrative that any criticism of Israel equates to antisemitism. Consequently, our leaders are constrained by political correctness, unable to address Israel's role in Middle Eastern conflict or suggest ending aid to the country.

Speaker 0 rails against dissent: “Like, if you disagree with me, fine. If you think Israel killed Charlie Kirk and then vanished beneath the trap door and flew to Tuba City on a private jet, fine.” He adds, “But then people start to say, you disagree with me? You're you got the memo.” He asserts, “every event that happens in America or the world is the doing of Israel,” and says if you disagree, “you got the call[.]” He notes, “you’re out,” and, “They will. And they will.” He proclaims, “I can’t wait for the apology forms” and, “cannot wait to humiliate you more, because more than anything, what I love is humiliate people who are wrong. I live for it actually.” He concludes, “So please, please, I can’t wait to never speak to those people again.”