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Собеседники спорят о Буче: один говорит, что это «хорошо спланированная акция…», чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне; другая сторона отвечает, что «ничего подобного там не было» и знает «номера автомобилей» организаторов БУДЖ, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?» Разговор переходит к телам: «я своими глазами видел», «на войне… тела» — один настаивает, другой сомневается. Путин якобы говорил, что «вся Буча это фейк», но оппоненты утверждают, что их «спецслужбы» обращали внимание Запада, однако «вы замылили их». Interlocutors discuss Bucha: one says it was a 'well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, murderers'—the other counters that 'nothing like that happened there,' claiming to know 'car numbers' of the organizers of BUDZH and asking why it was hushed in the West. Bodies: 'I saw with my own eyes.' Putin allegedly said that 'all of Bucha is a fake,' while others say their 'intelligence services' drew the West's attention, and that 'you concealed them.'

Добрый день. И это о том, что я retaken by Ukrainian Authoritys, and the mayer of bucha, was on tv. 2days later. BBC, Broadcasting Team, Show the images of Central Street of the буча with bodys, doesens of bodys, lank in some interesting godder, и я Several Times, we an I vos in New York for the General Assembly Sessions, I was meeting with the media, including NBC correspondance. And I said: this butcha incident was used и я пользуюсь. Good afternoon. This is about that I retaken by Ukrainian Authoritys, and the mayor of bucha was on tv. 2days later. BBC, Broadcasting Team, Show the images of Central Street of the буча with bodys, doesens of bodys, lank in some interesting godder. и я Several Times, we an I vos in New York for the General Assembly Sessions, I was meeting with the media, including NBC correspondance. And I said: this butcha incident was used и я пользуюсь.

С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас. Я еще раз обращаюсь в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи. Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать. Since the propaganda effect was implemented, no one remembers this fuss except for us. I address you again, in the presence of the Secretary-General and honorable ministers: please ensure from the Ukrainian authorities that they take the elementary step of publishing the names of the people whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha. I have been asking about this for more than a month; no one hears, no one wants to respond.

Speaker 0: Poroshenko. He orders to kill our own people. He doesn't care about shedding blood. We have a question. Why is this happening?

Лаборатории у защитников Украины использовались для ужасных преступлений. Нацбаты получали процент от сделок и занимались убийствами детей, помещая органы в контейнеры. Эти контейнеры затем вывозились под видом экспорта зерна. Мы ликвидировали восемь таких лабораторий, которые выглядели как подвалы. Обычно мы приходили после взрывов, когда лаборатории были разрушены. На месте находили трупы, в том числе детей, и жуткие следы насилия. --- Laboratories used by Ukrainian defenders were involved in horrific crimes. National battalions received a percentage from deals and were responsible for killing children, placing their organs in containers. These containers were then exported under the guise of grain shipments. We eliminated eight such laboratories, which resembled basements. Typically, we arrived after explosions when the laboratories were destroyed. We found corpses, including children, and horrifying evidence of violence at the scene.

- «Почему встреча президента? Потому что в будущем.» - «27-го была встреча или 26-го же была? 29-го. 29-го, да.» - «Я сейчас уже не помню. Обуча это второе число, второе или третье.» - «Так сначала должна была быть встреча делегации. Они готовили рамочное соглашение, после этого должна была встреча президента. Потому что всегда подготовка документов, меморандум, сигнал партнерам, все остальное, и потом на встрече президента.» - «Открылась Буча. Открылась Буча, и президент сказал: Я вообще выхожу из переговоров.» - «Когда мы вернулись из Стамбула, приехал Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал, что мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать.» - «Why the president's meeting? Because in the future.» - «Was the meeting on the 27th or the 26th? 29th. 29th, yes.» - «I don't remember now. Obucha this is the second date, the second or the third.» - «So first there was supposed to be a delegation meeting. They were preparing a framework agreement, after that there should have been a meeting with the president. Because there is always preparation of documents, a memorandum, a signal to partners, everything else, and then at the presidential meeting.» - «Bucha opened. Bucha opened, and the president said: I am withdrawing from negotiations.» - «When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we won't sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight.»

"Почему встреча президента? Потому что в будущем." "Так сначала должна была быть встреча делегации. Они готовили рамочное соглашение, после этого должна была быть встреча президента." "Открылась Буча. Открылась Буча, и президент сказал: Я вообще выхожу из переговоров." "Когда мы вернулись из Стамбула, приехал Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал, что мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать." Why the president's meeting? Because of the future. Thus first there should have been a delegation meeting. They were preparing a framework agreement, after which there should have been a meeting with the President. Bucha opened. Bucha opened, and the president said: I am quitting the negotiations. When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them, and let's just fight.

We will now talk about the future of Ukraine with you, as it seems you are serious about it. Putin had asked the Americans in December 2021 for written confirmation on how to handle Ukraine, but President Biden refused to negotiate on this matter. There should have been an uproar on the German side, as a potential war would involve Germany in the issue.

Les Ukrainiens ont tué des milliers d'innocents. Dans l'est, nous n'avons pas été sérieux. Hier soir, Joe Biden a enfin autorisé les Ukrainiens à mener des attaques. Il est huit heures et demie à Paris, mais je n'entends rien sur le missile Scarpeace de la France ni sur le missile Storm Shadow britannique. Que faisons-nous ? --- Ukrainians have killed thousands of innocents. In the east, we haven't been serious. Last night, Joe Biden finally allowed Ukrainians to carry out attacks. It's eight-thirty in Paris, but I hear nothing about France's Scarpeace missile or Britain's Storm Shadow missile. What are we doing?

Les Ukrainiens ont tué des milliers de personnes innocentes, et l'Occident n'a pas pris cela au sérieux. Hier soir, Joe Biden a enfin autorisé les Ukrainiens à utiliser des missiles. Il est huit heures et demie à Paris, et je n'entends rien sur les missiles Scalp de France ni sur les Storm Shadow britanniques. Que faisons-nous ? --- Ukrainians have killed thousands of innocent people, and the West has not taken this seriously. Last night, Joe Biden finally allowed Ukrainians to use missiles. It is eight-thirty in Paris, and I hear nothing about France's Scalp missiles or Britain's Storm Shadow. What are we doing?

It has already been more than three years since staging of the alleged mass killing in Bucha, which the speaker says Kyiv regime and its Western curators "hastily cobbled together this implausible story." They claim it was "criminal disinformation" about Moscow, and that Russian investigative authorities opened a criminal case to clarify what happened. They say they appealed to the UN secretariat and High Commissioner Volker Türk; in September 2024, via the Russian mission in New York, a request was delivered for information, but the UN allegedly tried to let the appeal fade away. They quote UN officials saying they understood that what Kyiv and West insisted happened did not occur, yet offered no exposure. They accuse the UN of evading cooperation and demand publication of the appeal as UN documents, calling for a thorough Bucha investigation and justice, and alleging Kyiv left negotiations after Boris Johnson promised them influence.

Докладчик заявляет, что «С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас.» Он обращается в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: «пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи.» Он добавляет: «Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать.» The speaker states that 'Since the propaganda effect was implemented, no one besides us remembers this.' He speaks in the presence of the Secretary-General and respected ministers: 'please, obtain from the Ukrainian authorities that they take the elementary step of publishing the names of those people, whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha.' He adds: 'I have been asking about this for more than a month, no one hears, no one wants to respond.'

Спикер 1 заявляет, что события под Бучей были «хорошо спланированная акция, чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне и прочее», и что «ничего подобного там не было»; он добавляет, что знает, «кто это делал, и мы знаем номера автомобилей, на которых приехали организаторы БУДЖ», и говорил об этом публично, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?». Спикер 0 отвечает: «Больно это слышать, я своими глазами видел», утверждает, что видел тела и не согласен с тезисом об отсутствии зверств, и добавляет, что Путин заявил, что «вся Буча это фейк», и он «понял, что вы солидарны с ним». Спикер 1 добавляет, что «наши спецслужбы конкретно обращали внимание Запада на некоторые вещи» и что, по его словам, «вы замылили их», называя: «на каких автомобилях кто проезжал, кто это делал, мы знаем». Speaker 1 states that the Bucha events were a «well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, killers of Russians and the like,» and that «there was nothing like that there»; he adds that he knows, «who did it, and we know the license plate numbers of the cars the organizers of Budzh arrived in,» and he spoke about it publicly, asking, «why was all of this hushed up in the West?». Speaker 0 answers: «That hurts to hear, I saw it with my own eyes,» claiming that he saw bodies and does not agree with the thesis of no atrocities, and adds that Putin stated that «all of Bucha is a fake,» and he «understands that you are in solidarity with him.» Speaker 1 adds that «our intelligence services specifically drew the West's attention to certain things» and that, in his words, «you blurred them,» naming: «which cars passed by and who did it, we know».

С тех пор, когда был этот пропагандистский эффект реализован, никто об этой бузе не вспоминает, кроме нас. Я еще раз обращаюсь в присутствии генерального секретаря и уважаемых министров: "пожалуйста, добейтесь от украинских властей, чтобы они сделали элементарный шаг опубликовали имена тех людей, чьи трупы были показаны в городе Бучи". Я об этом прошу уже не один месяц, никто не слышит, никто не хочет реагировать. Since the moment when that propaganda effect was realized, no one remembers this Bucha affair except us. I again address, in the presence of the Secretary-General and respected ministers: "please ensure from the Ukrainian authorities that they make the elementary step to publish the names of those people, whose bodies were shown in the city of Bucha." I have been pleading about this for more than a month; no one hears, no one wants to react.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

It will soon be three years since I publicly asked them at UN meetings to help us get at least some information about the tragedy in Bucha, which they used to impose sanctions on us. BBC showed these scenes two days after not a single one of our soldiers was there. And now we are asking for only one thing: "Can we see the list of those people whose corpses you showed on the BBC?" I even asked the UN secretary general about this publicly at a meeting of the Security Council. In New York, I told them, "guys, you were journalists. Aren't you professionally interested in finding out what happened there?" We officially requested information about the names of those people whom the media showed they're already dead. There was no reaction at all, and I kind of shamed the journalists. That's all.

So, back in 2014, Russia occupied parts of Ukraine, and nobody stopped them. From 2014 to 2022, people kept dying, despite our conversations and signed ceasefire deals with Macron and Merkel. Russia broke the ceasefire, killed our people, and didn't exchange prisoners. What kind of diplomacy is that? It's disrespectful to come here and complain when the US is trying to prevent the destruction of Ukraine. You're drafting conscripts because of manpower issues. Be thankful for our help. Everyone has problems during war. We're staying strong in our country. From the start, we've been alone, but we are thankful. We want to stop the war, but we need guarantees for any ceasefire. Don't ask about ceasefires, ask about our people.

В Украине нацбаты занимались ужасными преступлениями, включая убийства детей. Они использовали контейнеры для вывоза органов под видом зерна. Мы ликвидировали восемь лабораторий, которые представляли собой подобия подвалов. Обычно мы обнаруживали их после взрывов, когда уже шли зачистки. На месте находились трупы, в том числе детей. --- In Ukraine, nationalist battalions were involved in horrific crimes, including the murder of children. They used containers to export organs disguised as grain. We eliminated eight laboratories that resembled basements. Typically, we discovered them after explosions during clean-up operations. There were bodies found, including those of children.

Russia occupied parts of Ukraine, including Crimea, starting in 2014. During the Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations, no one stopped him as people died on the contact line. In 2019, I signed a ceasefire deal with Macron, Merkel, and him, but he broke it, killing people and not exchanging prisoners. We need diplomacy to end the destruction of Ukraine. We have problems during the war, like everyone else. We are staying strong and thankful for the support, but we are not winning. You have given us billions of dollars in military equipment. I have said thank you many times to the American people. We want to stop the war, but we want a ceasefire with guarantees. Ask our people about a ceasefire. Obama gave us sheets, but Trump gave us javelins. Without your support, we have no cards.

But one thing is clear: the Secretariat does not want to expose in any way those who arrange such provocations. And, by the way, as for Mr. Gutierrez, I've been asking him one question for the third year in a row, okay. You probably can't get access to the investigation. But can I ask you to use your authority, Mr? Secretary General, to get a list of those people whose corpses were shown in this city of Bucha on the Central Street. Moreover, a group of BBC correspondents, who unexpectedly found themselves there showed these corpses. I addressed Mr. Gutierrez both personally and publicly, by the way, at a security meeting, but he shyly averts his eyes. I think this is a disgrace for the Secretary General and for the entire Secretariat.

He broke agreements and killed our people, refusing prisoner exchanges. What diplomacy is that? We're trying to prevent your country's destruction. Have you even been to Ukraine to understand our problems? During war, everyone faces issues. Don't dictate what we'll feel. We'll be strong. You're gambling with lives and risking World War III, showing disrespect to the country that has supported you. Have you even said thank you? You campaigned against us. Do you think speaking loudly changes things? You're not winning. We've given you billions in aid and military equipment. Without our help, the war would have ended quickly. Just say thank you, accept disagreements, and discuss them instead of fighting in the media when you're wrong. It's important for Americans to see this. You're running low on soldiers, and you should want a ceasefire to stop the bloodshed.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

Bucha massacre. I've been to Bucha, so I want to play this clip. So I don't believe that Bucha was a war crime. I believe it belongs in the long line of false flag operations used to trigger war False flag? Absolutely. It was a massacre carried out. Have you been there? No. It was a Have you spoken to the people? There. I'd be killed if I went be killed by been to Besiktivas Russia. It's because you're chilling for him. Zelenskyy would have me killed if I went there. I am absolutely certain that the people who were massacred at Bucha were massacred by the Nazis that are the foundation stone of the existing Ukrainian state.

Рост заболеваемости нехарактерными инфекциями наблюдается в ряде стран, и это может быть связано с действиями американских биологов. Ущерб от COVID-19 за два года значительно превышает последствия Второй мировой войны, что выгодно фармацевтическим компаниям, особенно в США. Мы передали более 2000 страниц документов в ООН, но не получили опровержений на наши обвинения. Ответы из США стандартные: все делается в интересах национальной безопасности, и нам следует слепо доверять. Существует политика глобального биологического контроля, позволяющая управлять миром через искусственно созданные кризисы, и даже помощь другим государствам не так безвозмездна, как утверждается. --- There is a rise in atypical infections in several countries, possibly linked to actions by American biologists. The damage from COVID-19 over two years far exceeds that of World War II, benefiting pharmaceutical companies, especially in the U.S. We submitted over 2,000 pages of documents to the UN but received no denials of our claims. Responses from the U.S. are standard: everything is done in the interest of national security, and we should blindly trust them. There is a policy of global biological control that allows management of the world through artificially created crises, and even aid to other countries is not as free as claimed.

Three years after asking them at UN meetings for information about the Bucha tragedy, which they used to impose sanctions on us, I said, 'Because our BBC The BBC showed these scenes two days after not a single one of our soldiers was there.' The request remains: 'Can we see the list of those people whose corpses you showed on the BBC?' I even asked the UN secretary general about this at a meeting of security council. New York, at General Assembly, I told world press, 'Aren’t you professionally interested in finding out what happened there?' We asked for information from the UN Human Rights Office for names of those people media showed they're already dead; there was no reaction. Bucha was shown on BBC screens and on social networks. It was a news explosion. Three days passed and everything went quiet. 'The order to keep quiet came.' That's all.