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I have said many times that in Istanbul three years ago, we were very close to signing a full agreement. However, Boris Johnson prevented Ukraine from signing it. A Ukrainian official confirmed in an interview that they were ready to sign three years ago, but London and Washington forbade them from doing so.

Разговор касается причин встречи президента и дат: упоминали 29-го и 26-го/27-го. Говорят, что сначала должна была быть встреча делегации: они готовили рамочное соглашение, затем — встреча президента, потому что подготовка документов, меморандум и сигнал партнёрам. Затем открылась Буча, и президент заявил: «Я вообще выхожу из переговоров». После возвращения из Стамбула Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал: «мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать.» The discussion covers why a meeting with the president was planned and dates (29th, with references to 26th/27th). It states that a delegation meeting should come first to draft a framework agreement, with documents, a memorandum, and partner signals prepared in advance, before the president’s meeting. Bucha opened, and the president said, "I am out of negotiations." After returning from Istanbul, Boris Johnson arrived in Kyiv and said, "we won't sign anything with them, and let's just fight."

Собеседники спорят о Буче: один говорит, что это «хорошо спланированная акция…», чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне; другая сторона отвечает, что «ничего подобного там не было» и знает «номера автомобилей» организаторов БУДЖ, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?» Разговор переходит к телам: «я своими глазами видел», «на войне… тела» — один настаивает, другой сомневается. Путин якобы говорил, что «вся Буча это фейк», но оппоненты утверждают, что их «спецслужбы» обращали внимание Запада, однако «вы замылили их». Interlocutors discuss Bucha: one says it was a 'well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, murderers'—the other counters that 'nothing like that happened there,' claiming to know 'car numbers' of the organizers of BUDZH and asking why it was hushed in the West. Bodies: 'I saw with my own eyes.' Putin allegedly said that 'all of Bucha is a fake,' while others say their 'intelligence services' drew the West's attention, and that 'you concealed them.'

I met with Zelensky this morning and advised him to remain grateful and positive, promising to discuss security guarantees later. However, the meeting was a complete disaster, and I question whether Americans will still see him favorably. Based on what I witnessed, most Americans, including myself, wouldn't want Zelenskyy as a business partner. I spoke with President Trump last night, and he was optimistic about reaching a ceasefire and ending the war. I am proud of President Trump for showing the world not to trifle with him. However, Zelenskyy seemed to try and bait Trump in the Oval Office. JD was awesome.

As of February 2024, Speaker 0 asks if the person in question has the freedom to directly communicate with the speaker or their government to resolve the ongoing issues. Speaker 1 responds that the person considers themselves the head of state and won the elections. They believe that the coup d'etat in 2014 is the main source of power. Despite flaws in the government, the person is recognized as the president by the United States, Europe, and most of the world. Speaker 1 mentions negotiations with Ukraine in Istanbul, where the person was aware and even signed a preliminary document. However, they claim that former British Prime Minister Johnson dissuaded them from signing, leading to a sense of ridicule and sadness.

European leaders are not coming to rescue Zelensky from bullying; they are coming "because we've been working with the Europeans" and "the president invited them to come." The visit is not a stunt; there have been more meetings with Zelensky than with Putin, including "one meeting with Putin and, like, a dozen meetings with Zelensky." The White House says Zelensky told European leaders last week he wanted a cease-fire and that he would "walk out in two minutes" if Putin didn't agree; he spent three hours with Putin but "did not get one." The aim is "a peace agreement to end this war" and there was "enough progress" to move to the next phase. If peace isn't possible, "sanctions" are on the table, but "if he did this now, the moment the president puts those additional sanctions, that's the end of the talks." It will require concessions from both sides.

There is concern from the Europeans that Zelensky is being bullied into signing something away, which is why European leaders are coming as backup tomorrow. They are coming here tomorrow because we've been working with the Europeans; the president invited them to come. The president told those European leaders last week that he wanted to cease fire, and he said on television he would walk out if Putin didn’t agree, with severe consequences if he didn’t. He spent three hours with Putin and did not get one. Our goal is a peace agreement to end this war. There was enough progress in the talks to move to the next phase. If peace is not possible and the war continues, thousands will die. The president could impose new sanctions, but that would end talks; it will require concessions from both sides.

Speaker 1 cannot remember the last time they spoke to Joe Biden and doesn't feel the need to remember everything. They acknowledge that Biden funds the war they are fighting but claims to have spoken to him before a special military operation, expressing their belief that supporting Ukraine and pushing Russia away is a mistake. Speaker 1 suggests asking Biden about their conversation and states that it is not appropriate for them to comment further. They confirm that they haven't spoken to Biden since before February 2020.

Negotiations with Russia in Istanbul were successful, even to the point of opening a champagne bottle in celebration. The agreement was 90% ready for a direct meeting between Putin and Zelensky, with only the size of Ukrainian armed forces in peacetime remaining. However, after the discovery of Bucha, Zelensky was shocked and the negotiations were halted. A meeting scheduled for April 9th was canceled. The speaker doesn't know if Boris Johnson's visit to Kyiv influenced this decision. Although Russia showed readiness to continue negotiations, Ukraine declined. The speaker now believes an agreement at that time was impossible, as Putin could reframe the conflict as a war against the West, opening a "Pandora's box" of global issues. The speaker views the current situation as a new "Thirty Years' War," signaling the end of the modern era.

"Почему встреча президента? Потому что в будущем." "Так сначала должна была быть встреча делегации. Они готовили рамочное соглашение, после этого должна была быть встреча президента." "Открылась Буча. Открылась Буча, и президент сказал: Я вообще выхожу из переговоров." "Когда мы вернулись из Стамбула, приехал Борис Джонсон в Киев и сказал, что мы вообще не будем с ними ничего подписывать, и давайте будем просто воевать." Why the president's meeting? Because of the future. Thus first there should have been a delegation meeting. They were preparing a framework agreement, after which there should have been a meeting with the President. Bucha opened. Bucha opened, and the president said: I am quitting the negotiations. When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them, and let's just fight.

We will now talk about the future of Ukraine with you, as it seems you are serious about it. Putin had asked the Americans in December 2021 for written confirmation on how to handle Ukraine, but President Biden refused to negotiate on this matter. There should have been an uproar on the German side, as a potential war would involve Germany in the issue.

Okay, here's my perspective from the Oval Office press conference. The President was being very gracious to Zelensky, even when Zelensky was needling him and saying untrue things. Things went off the rails when a Polish journalist asked a question. After the President answered it, I answered it, and something about my answer set Zelensky off. I tried to diffuse the situation and suggested we continue the conversation in private, but the President wanted to have the conversation in public for the American people to see. There was a lack of respect and a sense of entitlement from Zelensky. Ultimately, the President wants the killing to stop, and Zelensky needs to come to the negotiating table. The real breakdown was Zelensky's unwillingness to engage in the peace process, and he wasn't there yet, but I think he'll get there eventually.

Спикер 1 заявляет, что события под Бучей были «хорошо спланированная акция, чтобы показать агрессивность, кровожадность, убийцы россияне и прочее», и что «ничего подобного там не было»; он добавляет, что знает, «кто это делал, и мы знаем номера автомобилей, на которых приехали организаторы БУДЖ», и говорил об этом публично, спрашивая, «почему это всё замяли на Западе?». Спикер 0 отвечает: «Больно это слышать, я своими глазами видел», утверждает, что видел тела и не согласен с тезисом об отсутствии зверств, и добавляет, что Путин заявил, что «вся Буча это фейк», и он «понял, что вы солидарны с ним». Спикер 1 добавляет, что «наши спецслужбы конкретно обращали внимание Запада на некоторые вещи» и что, по его словам, «вы замылили их», называя: «на каких автомобилях кто проезжал, кто это делал, мы знаем». Speaker 1 states that the Bucha events were a «well-planned operation to show aggression, bloodlust, killers of Russians and the like,» and that «there was nothing like that there»; he adds that he knows, «who did it, and we know the license plate numbers of the cars the organizers of Budzh arrived in,» and he spoke about it publicly, asking, «why was all of this hushed up in the West?». Speaker 0 answers: «That hurts to hear, I saw it with my own eyes,» claiming that he saw bodies and does not agree with the thesis of no atrocities, and adds that Putin stated that «all of Bucha is a fake,» and he «understands that you are in solidarity with him.» Speaker 1 adds that «our intelligence services specifically drew the West's attention to certain things» and that, in his words, «you blurred them,» naming: «which cars passed by and who did it, we know».

They were ready to end the war if we take on the neutrality of Finland and promise not to join NATO. Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said we won't sign anything with them, let's just fight. But as soon as we called on them to sit down, the next day they were already waiting with a delegation.

Speaker 0: "You know there is concern from the Europeans that president Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away." "That’s why you have these European leaders coming as backup tomorrow." Speaker 1: "It isn't. ... They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelenskyy from being bullied." He adds: "We've had one meeting with Putin and, like, a dozen meetings with Zelensky." "We've been working with these people for weeks." "They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow." He notes "there was enough progress" to "move to the next phase" and "enough movement to justify a follow-up meeting with Zelensky and the Europeans." On sanctions, he says: "If peace is not gonna be possible here... the president has that option to then come in and impose new sanctions. But if he did this now, ... that's the end of the talks." "We wanna wind up with a peace deal that ends this war" and "It will require both sides to make concessions."

It will soon be three years since I publicly asked them at UN meetings to help us get at least some information about the tragedy in Bucha, which they used to impose sanctions on us. BBC showed these scenes two days after not a single one of our soldiers was there. And now we are asking for only one thing: "Can we see the list of those people whose corpses you showed on the BBC?" I even asked the UN secretary general about this publicly at a meeting of the Security Council. In New York, I told them, "guys, you were journalists. Aren't you professionally interested in finding out what happened there?" We officially requested information about the names of those people whom the media showed they're already dead. There was no reaction at all, and I kind of shamed the journalists. That's all.

Naftali Bennett said that Boris Johnson interfered and prevented Ukrainians from signing a deal at the end of negotiations. Ukrainian representative Karakami confirmed that Johnson advised stopping negotiations to win the war militarily. According to Speaker 1, the Ukrainians began asking for advice and it became clear that Putin's main condition was in an annex. This condition included limits on the weapons systems Ukraine could have, which would have neutralized them as a military force. Russia would not have similar constraints, such as pulling back or having a buffer zone. People inside and outside Ukraine questioned whether it was a good deal, and that's when it fell apart.

Naftali Bennett said that Boris Johnson interfered and prevented Ukrainians from signing a deal with Russia. Ukrainian representative Karakami confirmed that Johnson advised stopping negotiations to win the war militarily. According to Speaker 1, the Ukrainians began asking for advice late in the negotiation process. It became clear that Putin's main condition, buried in an annex, would limit the kinds of weapons systems Ukraine could have, effectively neutering it militarily. Russia would face no similar constraints, such as pulling back or creating a buffer zone. Questions arose about whether this was a good deal, at which point the deal fell apart.

По трагедии в Буче прошло полгода. «мы безуспешно пытаемся разобраться, что же там произошло» и «для начала хотим получить список фамилий тех людей, чьи тела были показаны на весь мир». Я сообщил, что «мне никто не может этот ответ дать» и мы «обращались в самые разные структуры». Поэтому я «попросил уважаемого Антонио Гутероша в присутствии всех членов Совета Безопасности, других членов ООН, в микрофон попросил употребить свои возможности, свой авторитет, чтобы сделать, по-моему, не очень сложную вещь получить список фамилий тех лиц, чьи тела были показаны в Буче». Мы «до сих пор ничего не имеем», и «нет объяснений по целому ряду других вопросов, начиная с отравления Скрипалей»; «никаких документов не предъявляют» по Skripal, «отравления Навального тоже Германии говорит, не дадим мы вам анализы посмотреть», а «Германия нам запрещает» по ОКХ. «А почему?» «Вот это интересный вопрос.» Bucha tragedy is discussing the Bucha tragedy; six months have passed. "we are unsuccessfully trying to understand what happened there" and "for the start we want to obtain the list of surnames of those people whose bodies were shown to the whole world." I stated that "nobody can give me this answer" and we "have approached a variety of structures." Therefore I "asked the respected Antonio Guterres in the presence of all Security Council members, other UN members, to use his capabilities, his authority, to do, in my view, not a very difficult thing: obtain the list of surnames of those individuals whose bodies were shown in Bucha." We "so far have nothing," and "no explanations on a whole range of other questions, starting with the poisoning of Skripal"; "no documents are presented" concerning Skripal, "the poisoning of Navalny also Germany says, we will not let you look at the analyses," and "Germany forbids us" on OPCW. "Why?" "Here's an interesting question."

Почему здесь не было людей, способных принимать решения? При моем приезде все разбежались. Вы сделали заложниками своих амбиций и непрофессионализма. Это недопустимо для тысяч людей. Если собственники не смогут договориться, комплекс все равно восстановят без вас. Вы подписали договор? Да. Али Боич подписал? Ничего не вижу, подпишите. Идите ко мне. --- Why were there no decision-makers here? When I arrived, everyone scattered. You have made thousands of people hostages to your ambitions and unprofessionalism. This is unacceptable. If the owners can't reach an agreement, the complex will be restored without you. Did you sign the contract? Yes. Did Ali Boich sign? I see nothing; just sign it. Come to me.

I'm not sure about numerous calls, but there was at least one request to come back and continue the conversation. I felt that they were disrespectful and unwilling to discuss a peaceful settlement. You can't fund the war forever; the American people won't stand for it, and neither will the Europeans. We need to bring this to a peaceful settlement. I was trying to do that, and I'll continue to try, but it takes two to tango. The Ukrainians need to participate in the conversation, but they weren't willing to do that on Friday, so I sent them home. I expect the war will go on a very long time. I don't know where they're going to get the money to fund it.

And one of the things at the table was one of the gentlemen who's a great guy, but he said, I said I I hope I didn't insult him. 'let's meet in another month or two, and let's see if we can start, you know, making some what.' 'He that a month or two? You're gonna have another 40,000 people dead in a month or two. You have to do it tonight.' 'And I did, actually. I called, president Putin, and we're trying to work out a meeting with president Zelensky. We'll see what happens there.' 'And then if that works out if it works out, then I'll go to the trilap and close it up.'

- "This is a war that should have never happened." - "The major thing they wanted was for us to keep NATO out of the Ukraine." - "March 2022, we committed a 113,000,000,000." - "it's not really going to Ukraine. It is going to American defense manufacturers. So he just admitted it's a money laundering scheme." - "And who do you think owns every one of those companies? Blackrock." - "Ukraine has to put all of its government owned assets up for sale to multinational corporations, including all of its agricultural land, the biggest single asset in Europe." - "500,000 kids almost. Ukrainian kids have died to keep that land as part of Ukraine." - "And then in December, president Biden gave out the contract to rebuild Ukraine. And who do you think got that contract? Lakhra."

Thank you, Mr. President. I have a few questions for you. Is there a new deal in the works? What's the latest regarding the Brexit deal? President Zelensky, can you share any updates on what has transpired recently? Also, I'm wondering, did you sign the minerals deal? Did you sign the minerals deal? Did you sign the deal?

They were ready to end the war if we took a neutral stance like Finland and promised not to join NATO. When we returned to Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said we wouldn't sign anything with them and let's just fight. But as soon as we called on them to sit down, the next day they would already be sitting, waiting with a delegation.