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I was offered $200,000 to falsely accuse Michael Jackson of molesting my kids, but I refused. I would have taken action if it were true, but I believe he was innocent. A personal photo of my son at Michael's house was used as evidence, but I didn't allow it. Michael won the case, and I was on my way to support him when I was told my help wasn't needed.

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Speaker 0 recalls being 15 and waking up to Brian sexually assaulting him, frozen and unable to react. He had no car and no way to escape, and he kept the abuse secret to avoid questions about returning to Brian’s house for auditions or work. The abuse was extensive and brutal, not a one-time incident, and it grew worse over time as Brian manipulated others and used his connections to keep Drake in the cycle. Speaker 1 provides space for flare of what Drake felt and how the abuse continued, acknowledging the difficulty of describing the worst acts but noting it was calculated and persistent. Drake began spending time at his girlfriend’s house for safety, where her mother quickly noticed something was wrong. She confronted Drake and spoke to his mother, leading to therapy. Drake says he lied in therapy, saying everything was normal while realizing the manipulation and fear that kept him silent. Drake explains that Brian’s circle and influence in productions made it feel unsafe to speak out. He was pressured to stay silent to preserve his career, and he worried about losing future work if he disclosed the abuse. He also recounts a specific incident when Brian tried to take him to Disneyland despite Drake wanting to distance himself, ultimately prompting the girlfriend’s mother to intervene and arrange therapy. The narrative then shifts to the police involvement. Drake’s mother called the police after Drake exploded in a phone call, confessing what had happened. Detectives pressed for excruciating detail and required Drake to make a phone call to Brian to obtain a confession on a recording. Brian confessed, and Drake faced mixed emotions of relief and fear as the case progressed. Brian was arrested for horrific acts, and Drake’s phone messages indicate concern about public knowledge of the case. Following the arrest, Dan Schneider supported Drake; others advised him not to talk about it. Drake’s father expressed relief that Brian couldn’t harm him, reinforcing the sense of closure. Drake recalls when the public learned of the arrest and his own sensational experience; the emotional toll was severe, including hair loss and high stress. On sentencing day, Brian Peck was convicted and sentenced to sixteen months in jail and required to register as a sex offender after pleading no contest to two charges of child sexual abuse. The transcript notes attempts to unseal letters of support written for Brian, including by James Marsden, Terum Killam, and others. These letters, kept sealed for two decades, showed industry support for Brian, with some letters blaming the victim or suggesting temptations influenced his actions, including letters from Joanna Kearns and Kimmy Robertson. Notably, Nickelodeon executives did not write letters, but Hollywood insiders did; some letters imply Brian’s culpability was mitigated by external pressures. Speaker 0 reflects on the aftermath: a slow decline in mental health and sobriety, with DUIs and self-destructive behaviors. The show Drake & Josh continued production, and Drake used work as a coping mechanism. After the arrest, Drake questioned whether Nickelodeon or executives reached out, noting a lack of therapy and being left to cope alone. The story touches on Brian’s later actions, court outcomes, and Drake’s ongoing struggle with the trauma, though a period of sentencing and public reaction follow. Drake ultimately sought treatment, trauma therapy, grief therapy, and a supportive environment to begin healing, acknowledging the long road ahead and the difficulty of revisiting memories.

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Footage shows rabbi Marvin Hyer, an activist for Jewish causes, outraged because last June Jackson sent him a letter of apology for singing those lyrics. The incident centers on the words “Jew me, sue me, kick me, kite me,” which Michael Jackson had told the press he would never use. Hyer and others insist the phrase is problematic, and the discussion emphasizes that “don’t you me” is part of the song’s controversy. During the segment, the conversation shifts to the issue of testimony in a child molestation case. Speaker 3 notes that, in general, a child will be able to recall and recollect with some detail the incident, and that such testimony is persuasive to a jury even if it is the only testimony available. The group then moves to Jackson’s legal proceedings. Jackson gave a wave when he was released after booking and was scheduled for arraignment in January. The report also highlights Michael Jackson’s longtime residence in Trump Tower and his ties to Donald Trump. Trump is described as strongly reiterating his defense of Jackson in an appearance with Larry King by criticizing the accuser’s mother. A speaker characterizes the mother as someone who has “had plenty of experience at going after people” and suggests she “goes after them viciously and violently.” The speaker adds that Jackson would spend time with Trump’s kids and that “he was not a child molester.” There is a pivotal claim from a different participant: “They murdered Michael Jackson after he started talking about Jews,” with a caveat that the speaker does not state whether the comments about Jews were right or wrong, but asserts it as a historical fact. The report notes that Jackson was in Brazil to shoot the music video for “They Don’t Care About Us.” It mentions that last year he angered Jewish groups by singing certain lyrics, and that he yielded to pressure to change the song, though in Brazil the controversial lyrics reappeared as he performed them in a particular way. The discussion then addresses the line “Jew me, sue me. And some people are saying that that is antisemitic.” One participant declares it is not antisemitic, insisting, “I’m not a racist person… I love all races of people” and clarifies that the line is about himself as the victim, not about others. Finally, the report closes with the update that Michael Jackson apparently suffered cardiac arrest that afternoon and was rushed to UCLA Medical Center.

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The episode centers on a controversial incident in a Miami nightclub where a group of influencers were seen celebrating a song that included Nazi references. Video clips from Vendome on 743 Washington Avenue showed people laughing and engaging with the lyrics “Heil Hitler,” and one participant giving a Nazi salute. The club publicly stated it does not condone antisemitism or hate speech and said it is examining safeguards to prevent repeats. Miami Beach officials and local operators condemned the behavior, noting the incident sparked widespread backlash. Andrew Tate, the central figure in the discussion, explains that he did not request or choose the songs played that night. He describes entering a nightclub where songs were played by others, and asserts that he did not dance to, repeat, or endorse the lyrics. He reflects on how internet culture rewards shock value and contends that many young streamers seek provocative moments to gain views, which can lead to unintended consequences for those associated with the content. Tate discusses the social dynamics and accountability within their circle. He notes that he did not know all the people in the group, emphasizing that he had only recently met two of them (Clav and Nick) and had not met Snico before the night. He states that Tristan looked uncomfortable in the footage, and he acknowledges that being linked to the event has caused widespread scrutiny. He denies antisemitic intent and argues that the incident was “the main reason this is being done” due to the pursuit of clicks and attention, not due to genuine hatred. The conversation broadens to address antisemitism and its rise in America. Tate offers a theory: antisemitism increases when young men feel disenfranchised and told that Jews control the system, even if not true. He says there was antisemitism historically tied to economic and social instability, and argues this is part of a broader dissatisfaction among young men who are looking for someone to blame. Several participants debate the age and maturity of those involved, with some noting that not all individuals in the group are young. They discuss the responsibility of leadership within their circle, emphasizing that a leader’s choices influence others’ behavior. One speaker asserts that Tate is the leader, and that others “follow his lead.” There is contention about who actually played the offending song, with some suggesting Sneako might have played it, while others defend Sneako or the others present. Personal reflections surface about past experiences and growth. Tate describes his general approach to social environments, noting that he typically avoids clubs and is cautious about who he associates with. He acknowledges the possibility of being set up or misrepresented online, and he emphasizes that he did not organize the incident or endorse the lyrics. He also discusses the idea of recreating oneself and moving toward higher-level opportunities, while recognizing the potential consequences of associating with controversial figures. A recurring theme is accountability versus blame. Some participants argue that Tate should have severed ties or left the scene to avoid being connected to the controversy, while others defend him as a target of scrutiny by association. They discuss the role of clout and controversy in online culture, the impact on reputations, and the importance of choosing associations that align with personal standards and future ambitions. Toward the end, speakers acknowledge that Nick Fuentes had never been to a club before and that Myron Gaines and Snico’s involvement complicated the situation. They reflect on the possibility of misjudgment, the need for clearer boundaries, and the impact on relationships within their circle. The conversation closes with a sense of learning from the episode and a recognition that leadership carries responsibility for the actions of those who look up to you.

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Michael Jackson, wearing a disguise, surprises his friends who don't recognize him. They jokingly call him "Dave" instead of "Mike." He thanks his fans for their support and reflects on the knowledge and experience gained from his recent loss. They discuss visiting his house in Encino. When asked to say a few words, Michael greets his fans and is asked how it feels to be leaving royalty tonight.

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Michael Jackson, disguised as Spider Jack, went to the movies with his kids. His friend didn't recognize him and kept calling him "Mike" instead of his disguised name, so he started calling him "Dave Dave." They thanked everyone for their support and expressed gratitude for the knowledge and experience gained. They mentioned going to Michael's house in Encino. When asked to say a few words, Michael greeted his fans and was asked how it felt to be leaving royalty tonight.

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Speaker 0 describes Skyler as having given about four different interviews online right after the Charlie Kirk assassination. She notes he is seen with glasses on top of his head, front row at the scene, and somehow sits on the Main Floor at the Charlie Kirk Memorial during the memorial service. She asks, “Who is this guy? How is this possible? And why are his interviews so odd?” She points out that on the day of the shooting Skyler was in the front row and near a bodyguard. Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 recount Skyler’s position: “Maybe 10 or 15 feet away when it happened. Close as he could.” They describe Skyler with sunglasses on his head, and a Charlie Kirk bodyguard in front of him, with Skyler off to the side in the corner when Charlie began taking questions. They note the bodyguard is directly in front of Charlie, Skyler to the side, matching Skyler’s own account of being “front row, Noel in front of him,” with a bodyguard to his left and one in front of him. They say Skyler was “front row and center.” Speaker 0 then says Skyler later appeared sitting on the Main Floor at the Charlie Kirk Memorial, with a floor pass for a press conference, literally “maybe 10 or so rows from the front of the stage.” They claim this is documented on Skyler’s Facebook page. They mention Skyler’s Facebook shows two, perhaps “two point, I think, k” followings, with from 2018 to 02/2025 only about seven posts and about 10 pictures, implying a sparse content profile for a “digital creator.” Speaker 3 describes Skyler’s earlier claim about getting into the stadium: “Just made it to the stadium. There is an unlimited amount of security, Secret service, military, police, empty. Steel barricades all around. … There’s been people waiting in line since 05:30 in the morning.” He says Skyler went past multiple security layers to obtain a media badge and a floor pass, and then ended up on the Main Floor “a few rows back to the Charlie Kirk Memorial.” The speakers question how he could gain access and yet appear to be late, then have a media pass and seating positions. Speaker 4 adds, “So, again, why go into detail acting as if you were late, you didn’t even know you were gonna get in, yet somehow you end up with a passing all these checkpoints to get a media pass around your deck, end up on the First, you know, Main Floor just a few rows back to the Charlie Kirk Memorial that day. It’s just like it’s a big act, a big show that this guy's putting on. It’s like he was handpicked to do all these interviews. He was handpicked to have front row that day because he was up, you know, farther up in the crowd before Charlie got there.” Speaker 4 closes with a segment featuring a clip of another person describing a mythic, imagery-laden interpretation: “An indecision night. I photoshopped in my mind. I photoshopped the blood away. I photoshopped Charlie, sat him back up, put his smile back on, and rewound the tape… I rewound the bullet going back up into the rifle. I stuck a flower inside the rifle.”

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 address a viral video about Charlie’s chief of staff, Mikey, and explain why they are discussing it. - The video in question attacks Mikey, Charlie’s chief of staff, claiming based on a few seconds of clips that he allegedly has a nonchalant or calm reaction to Charlie’s murder. They describe this as a “extremely disgusting attack.” - Speaker 1 recounts what happened: they were at the scene when a shooting occurred. The loud crack is heard; they turn and see Charlie has been shot. They realize there is a shooter on the scene. They decide to get out of there rather than be shot, noting Charlie had a security team that leapt into action to get Charlie out. - Speaker 0 notes their own actions: he, too, considered getting into the car, but decided against it. He was ahead of Mikey as they left. He recalls a moment where he paused to assess the situation, then saw Mikey, who was profoundly freaked out. Mikey’s lip was quivering, and he said, “I need to call Erica,” then took his phone and began calling Erica. Speaker 0 also called his own mom, saying there had been a shooting and that he was okay. - They describe Mikey’s later actions: after the initial shock, Mikey took charge like a “general directing a battle,” coordinating hospital transport and information flow, and directing people where to go. When they learned Charlie had died, Mikey told them, “now none of you can say anything that you've heard because it is Erica is not going to hear about this from anyone except me.” - Speaker 2 asks if Mikey could be involved in a conspiracy to murder Charlie. Speaker 1 responds that such accusations are vile and describes how some people online fuel such narratives, comparing the mindset to getting a “high” from dangerous or provocative content. - The speakers emphasize Mikey’s heroic actions: Mikey was distressed but stepped up to direct people and communicate with Erica and others. Speaker 0 notes that he, too, was traumatized after learning of Charlie’s death and rushed to be with Erica and the team. - They address the specific allegation that Mikey was on the phone immediately during the incident; they state he was not on the phone but was taking social videos to share with their group chats. He would send updates to Charlie’s social media during the event while the crowd was changing, then, overwhelmed by the noise and shock, he put his fingers in his ears but his phone remained in his hand as he moved away. - They describe the scene as a cordoned-off area with a narrow gap that people used to exit, where Mikey walked briskly or ran as he processed the trauma and continued to direct actions. They reiterate Mikey “turned into a general on a field marshaling the troops.” - Speaker 1 closes by urging readers who propagate narratives attacking Mikey to reconsider, stating that such narratives are bad and gross and a choice that shouldn’t be made.

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Speaker 0, Jeffrey Edward Epstein and my residence address is 6100 Red Hook Boulevard in Virgin Islands. Speaker 1: Is it true that you forced Virginia Roberts to have sex with numerous friends of yours? Speaker 0: Wouldn't love my fifth amendment right. Speaker 2: You had a number of meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, who, when you met him ten years ago, he was convicted of soliciting prostitution from minors. Speaker 3: And, you know, I've said I regretted having those dinners regretted having those dinners. We did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein go to jail. He needed to go to jail. Were there young women in another part of the house giving massages, when I wasn't around? I have no idea of that. Speaker 1: Sent him three 12 year old girls from France who spoke no English for defendant to sexually exploit and abuse. After doing so, they were sent back to France the next day. Speaker 0: Please, they never saw a young underage woman. Speaker 3: You know, those meetings were were a mistake. They didn't result in what he purported, and I cut them off. You know, that goes back a long time ago now. There's you know, so there's nothing new on that. Speaker 2: We now know that he was and had been procuring young girls for sex trafficking. Speaker 0: We now know that. At the time, there was no indication to me or anybody else. I kept my underwear on during the massage. I don't like massages particularly. Speaker 3: If we had had more transparency, perhaps this case would have gone differently. Speaker 2: It was reported that you continued to meet with him over several years. Speaker 3: You know, I had dinners with him. I regret doing that. Speaker 0: You have what's been described as an egg shaped penis. Speaker 3: Well, he's dead. So, you know, in general, you always have to be careful.

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The discussion centers on the Epstein files’ implications for Michael Jackson, Hollywood power, and international intelligence networks. The speakers present a narrative in which Jackson is portrayed as a target of a smear campaign by those who themselves were implicated in abusive behavior, and where financial and institutional interests—labels like John Branca, Sony, and broader music-industry power structures—played a decisive role in shaping public misperceptions and legal outcomes. Key points raised: - Michael Jackson faced multiple accusations in the 1990s: one civil settlement for sexual abuse claims and a criminal trial in which he was acquitted. Jackson maintained his innocence, asserting that he had only tried to help children and that the accusations were a nightmare used to condemn him. - Macaulay Culkin and Corey Feldman provided counter-narratives about Jackson’s character, with Culkin stating that Jackson protected him from going to Epstein’s island. Aaron Carter recounted how FBI agents and his mother pressured him for statements about Jackson, which he resisted, arguing that Jackson was hospitable and kind. - Ian Carroll, an independent journalist, argues that the smear campaign against Jackson was sustained by media and industry interests, and that the FBI’s decade-long investigation found no credible evidence, despite persistent public narratives. He suggests the timing of accusations aligned with Jackson’s challenges to industry power. - Cui bono (who benefits) framing is used to trace Jackson’s fortunes to John Branca, Sony, and the broader record industry. Jackson’s contested revised will, signed while the family claimed he was not in Los Angeles, is cited as evidence of manipulated assets and power dynamics after his death. Carroll and others propose that Jackson’s death may have involved murder or entrapment tied to financial and industry interests. - The group discusses how Epstein’s network intersects with major power players, including Ehud Barak and Leslie Wexner, and how Epstein fostered a web of influence spanning entertainment, finance, and intelligence communities. They propose that blackmail—often leveraging sexual proclivities or drug use—was a tool used to control powerful figures, with Bill (Jackson’s long-time head of security) and Faheem Muhammad (who later joined Diddy’s security) highlighted as examples of how security teams can serve as leverage points. - The conversation connects Epstein’s trafficking network to Hollywood and music executives, arguing that the industry routinely uses celebrities and talent-disposition toward manipulation, entrapment, and blackmail to protect vested interests. - The panel raises questions about the role of media silence and biased reporting. They critique headlines and coverage (such as claims of Jackson being a pedophile) as sensationalist, arguing that some outlets published prosecutors’ opinions as facts and that this feeds broader misinformation. - They discuss the broader Epstein ecosystem—its links to Israel’s intelligence circles, transhumanist funding, Palantir and other surveillance technologies, and the potential for a global intelligence-driven “blackmail economy” that intersects with corporate and political power. They emphasize that Epstein’s network extended beyond celebrity abuse to technological and geopolitical frontiers, including genetics, cybersecurity, and digital governance. - The conversation also touches on how some public narratives attempt to shift blame or reframe individuals (for example, via racial framing or antisemitism accusations) to obscure the underlying structural abuses and blackmail networks. They caution against easy judgments based on identity politics, urging careful examination of the documented connections and the evidence. - Towards the end, they debate who might still benefit from reviving allegations about Jackson, noting that the Epstein materials resurfaced in late 2020s-era reporting and that some outlets used salacious Epstein-Jackson linkages to repackage old stories. They stress the difficulty of disentangling truth from manipulation when powerful actors have incentives to suppress or distort information. Additionally, the speakers highlight: - The existence of a broader, ongoing intelligence and corporate machinery behind Epstein’s operations, suggesting that the real story lies not only in salacious accusations but in how such networks influence media, politics, science funding, and technological development. - The importance of transparency and deeper investigation into the layers beneath public celebrity scandals, including the roles of security personnel, gatekeepers, and financial controllers who may shield or advance these criminal networks. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes a pattern: prominent figures in entertainment and business become targets of complex, multifaceted suppression and manipulation by powerful interest groups, with Epstein’s and Jackson’s cases presented as illustrative of a wider system of control and blackmail rooted in money, media influence, and intelligence contacts.

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Upon arrival, phones were locked in bubble cases. One of Diddy's sons was recruiting people to enter the house where the "Freak Off" was located. Inside, there were various activities occurring in different corners, including sexual activity. There were also little people dressed as Harajuku Barbies. The speaker questioned their presence at the party with adults at 7 a.m. The speaker felt it was suspicious that they were chosen to enter the house instead of their friend. The speaker claims there was hard drug use and orgies in the open, which offended and assaulted them. They believe Diddy was doing the things he is accused of.

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At 15 years old, I met Oprah Winfrey for the first time. I was taken to a house where she gave me a pill and we kissed. She told me to have sex with someone who moves money. I was high by the time I got to him. She complimented my smile and asked me to call her Auntie. Another girl from my school, Carter High School, was there too, but she was sent to a different room.

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Michael Jackson speaks about his frustrations with Sony and Tomy Mottola, describing Mottola as a devil and alleging Sony exploits artists. He claims to have generated several billion dollars for Sony and says they believed his focus would always be on music and dancing, but he asserts that he’s outsmarted them as a free agent. He describes leaving Sony after one more album, a box set containing two new songs he wrote long ago, and explains that he writes at least 120 songs per album. He says he can complete the box set and give Sony the two songs, thereby leaving Sony as a free agent while claiming to own half of Sony. He notes that Sony is very angry about this move but maintains he did good business. He adds that the way Sony seeks revenge is by trying to destroy his album, but he believes that “art good art never dies” and expresses affection for his work on Unbreakable. Michael references Diana and Waldo and thanks them, stating his love for them and others present, and mentions turning off or taping something, with an aside that he doesn’t mind and to tape it. In a separate recounting, he says Mariah Carey came to him crying after a divorce, describing her distress and saying that “this is an evil man” who taps her phones and is “very, very evil,” and that they must continue their drive until he is terminated. Overall, the statements portray allegations of exploitation by Sony and Tomy Mottola, a plan to leave Sony while claiming ownership of half the company, a claim about an intent to destroy his album as retaliation, strong feelings about Mariah Carey’s claims of harassment, and appreciation for Diana and Waldo.

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Speaker 0 describes a courtroom incident where the judge read a letter and later accused him of violence in the courtroom. He says he asked the judge who wrote the letter and claimed he cannot represent his father because he is not a licensed attorney. He counters that he has never heard of an attorney’s license and even contacted the licensing commissioner, who offers driver’s licenses, mortgage licenses, and real estate licenses but no license to practice law; when asked to produce a license to practice law, the judge grew angry and said nothing. He asks if the court is a court of record for the third time and the judge goes quiet; other attorneys stand nearby as if unsure what’s going on. He tells the judge he doesn’t want to talk to the attorneys because the judge is the one keeping his dad in jail, not the lawyers. He insists on a record of whether this is a court of record, and when he does so, the panic button is pressed and bailiffs drag him out of the courthouse. His father is brought in and told, “Russ, we’ll let you go if you promise not to do it again.” His father hadn’t seen him since age 10 and didn’t know he was present. After his father is released, he resolves to dedicate his life to combining that experience with his spiritual knowledge. Speaker 0 then asserts that the system is purely financial: they treat your body as a warehouse, file liens, and monetize it using the General Services Administration (GSA). He claims they file a bid bond, a performance bond, and a payment bond with standard forms 93, 94, and 95, and then make you pay commissary. He describes receiving a CID number, being placed in a trustee program, and doing work, with everything financed through what he calls their private system, the Court Registry Investment System. He states you pay for everything, including attorney’s fees and court costs. Regarding exits from court cases, he claims you can stop a case by sending an affidavit of questionnaire to the judge and attorneys and asking under penalty of perjury whether they have a financial interest in the case. If they answer yes, they must recuse themselves; if they answer no, you have perjured yourself, and the IRS will imprison you. This, he says, is how to stop court cases. Speaker 1 responds with astonishment and disbelief, noting that people are being “traded like cattle” in jail and humorously remarks about future nicknames, calling the speaker “my cousin Vinny.”

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The speakers recount the moments surrounding Charlie Kirk being shot and highlight the behavior of Mikey McCoy, Charlie Kelley’s chief of staff. The account begins with a father describing his son’s roles: Justin is the chief financial officer, and Mikey is the chief of staff. He recalls the instant Charlie was shot: “Charlie’s been shot in the neck. Please call every pastor and pray.” He notes that Charlie was directing at the time, with blood all over him. Speaker 1 focuses on Mikey’s actions during the incident. He notes that Mikey is still there, phone in hand, texting, talking, then putting the phone away. He points to the person Charlie is arguing with, Hunter Kozak, and emphasizes what the video shows about Mikey: he seems to see Charlie get hit and “simply walks away.” Mikey later reappears on the other side of the tent, not running but walking. The account questions whether Mikey might be on the phone, though it isn’t certain. Security guards are described as doing their part, while Mikey is shown “walking, like getting far away from everything.” The narrative suggests Mikey turned his back on the incident after it happened. Speaker 2 names Mikey McCoy, Charlie Kirk’s chief of staff and friend, describing what he did or did not do during the morning. The speaker asserts that Mikey “spent the whole morning dutifully and loyally by Charlie’s side filming everything,” but then “abandoned Charlie in the very instant Charlie was killed.” The key questions posed are whether Charlie was actually dead, whether he needed help, and whether Mikey rushed to aid him or instead got his camera out. The speaker concludes that, according to the account, “Mikey McCoy didn't care about Charlie Kirk at all and just left him behind.” In summary, the described sequence presents Mikey McCoy as being present with Charlie prior to the shooting, then engaging in texting and moving away, appearing on the far side of the tent, and ultimately turning his back on Charlie after the incident, with the claim that he abandoned him as Charlie passed. The recounting is reinforced by a second speaker who reiterates that Mikey did not assist Charlie and appeared to prioritize other actions over Charlie’s welfare.

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At 17, a person is basically an adult and knows what's up. The individual in question said no picture was ever sent. He is friends with Ali; they talk and have been to events since. At CPAC in '21, Lance was texting Ali to hang out at a bar. Smiley admits he didn't protest at all and went along with it. They were talking for years and hanging out. The same is true for Lance.

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Joshua Peterson, a former representative for Turning Point USA, recounts his experience during training with the organization. He describes the first nights as long and strenuous, followed by a planned group time that turned out differently than expected. Instead of bonding with the current cohort, he and others were paired with former representatives from previous years who would guide them around the city. He notes an unusual setup: two “stripper vans” rented to take them into the city. He emphasizes that there were no strippers, but the vans contained stripper poles, which he found odd and inconsistent with the organization’s values. Once they reached bars in Arizona, the former reps allegedly started getting the trainees drunk. During the night, the former reps allegedly singled out individuals to smoke with them. When it was his turn to talk to them, Peterson says they asked about his views on Israel, and he expressed that he thought Israel was a good country at the time. They pressed him further about Mossad and Israeli forces, and he replied that they were “alright.” They then claimed, “we’re part of, like, Israeli groups and forces,” and asserted, “we’ve been working for Turning Point for the past four or five years now.” Peterson states he did not know at the time whether the company knew about this or if they were infiltrating Turning Point USA, but he believed there were more such individuals—“Israeli agents within Turning Point USA” and more of them in the organization. He and a couple of other representatives discussed the issue with Turning Point’s administration, believing action would be taken. However, he says nothing was done in response and there was “absolutely zero retaliation” toward the Israeli-affiliated representatives, which he describes as a significant red flag for many of them. In closing, Peterson highlights that these events raised serious concerns about possible infiltration by Israeli agents within Turning Point USA and the lack of disciplinary response from the organization’s leadership.

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Speaker describes traveling with him to his house in Palm Beach, Ohio, and sleeping in the same bed. Epstein told me that he had a heart condition. 'A what? Heart condition.' He said this 'meant that he didn't have intercourse alone,' which 'suited kind because I actually do have a medical condition, which prevents me having a lot of intercourse.' The speaker asks, 'what was your understanding of his heart condition and why that prevented him from having intercourse regularly?' The response: 'I don't know.' 'I mean, he liked other forms of sexual ethics.' 'Let's come back. We're gonna obviously spend some time.'

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The speaker recounts a sequence of events following a party, culminating in a confrontation with FBI agents. After leaving the party, the speaker says he smoked with someone nicknamed “nickel,” then got into a limousine and returned to the Sheraton Hotel at Universal, where four FBI agents were waiting in the hotel room. The speaker’s mom was present, urging him to tell the agents what happened. When asked to recount events, the speaker says the agents asked “super sexually exploiting, you know, questions, back backside questions,” and he immediately questions the premise: “are y’all crazy? I said, what do think I'm gonna do? Tell you that Michael did something bad so that we we can sue him for money?” He looks at his mom and expresses disbelief at why she would allow such questions, asking, “Why are you letting this happen?” The speaker states his perspective on Michael, saying, “That man did nothing but be hospitable, kind, loving, giving, everything you could think of.” He explains that they had spent time together riding four-wheelers for several hours in the mountains at night after Michael’s birthday party, and that he, Michael, and Chris Tucker hung out and talked “pretty much all” of the time. The speaker emphasizes that the encounter with Michael was positive and that he did not understand why the FBI was pressing the sensitive questions or why his mother suggested there might be wrongdoing. In summary, the speaker describes a night of hospitality and camaraderie with Michael (and Chris Tucker), followed by an FBI interview at the hotel room the next day in which intrusive questions were asked, prompting the speaker to defend Michael and challenging the motives behind the investigators’ line of questioning. The account highlights the contrast between the speaker’s personal memory of generosity and friendship with Michael and the formal, accusatory nature of the FBI interrogation.

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The transcript centers on a controversial set of statements made by Michael Jackson and surrounding reactions. It opens with Speaker 0 stating, “I'm shocked. Jew me, sue me, kick me, kite me. Those are the words that he told us that he would never use,” highlighting a phrase Jackson allegedly defended as not something he would say. Speaker 1 adds, “I want people to get the picture. So they shut up talking about, don't Jew me. You understand? Yep.” The implication is that the language became a focal point in discussions about Jackson, not necessarily a verdict about his character, with Speaker 1 suggesting that people should stop saying “don’t Jew me” and that “Michael Jackson is a to be convicted of this child molestation because he said don’t you me in a storm,” though the phrasing is ambiguous in the transcription. Speaker 2 notes that “this can depend on the testimony of the child accuser,” while Speaker 3 discusses the general reliability of a child’s recall, stating, “In general, the child will be able to recall and recollect with some detail the incident, and that is persuasive to a jury even if it is the only testimony that is available.” Speaker 4 asks, “Should we light the candle?” and Speaker 3 confirms, “Yeah. Let's do it.” The scene shifts to Jackson’s legal status: “Jackson gave a wave when he was released after booking. He's scheduled for arraignment in January,” per Speaker 2. Speaker 5 mentions Michael Jackson’s long residence at Trump Tower and describes how Donald Trump defended Jackson in a Larry King interview by attacking the accuser’s mother, saying she has “plenty of experience at going after people, and she goes after them viciously and violently.” The speaker adds that Jackson spent time with Trump’s children and “loved children,” asserting, “He was not a child molester.” Another voice claims, “They murdered Michael Jackson after he started talking about Jews,” acknowledging that while the speaker does not judge the content of Jackson’s statements, it is a “fact of history” that he was in Brazil to shoot the music video for “They Don’t Care About Us,” and that he angered Jewish groups by the controversial lyrics—though he later changed the song under pressure, the controversial lyrics were back when performed in Brazil. Speaker 6 reiterates Jackson’s controversial stance, saying, “There’s been another issue raised in a song you say, and some people are saying that that is antisemitic. It’s not antisemitic because I’m not a racist person. I could never be a racist. I love all races of people from Arabs to Jewish people, like I said before, to blacks. But when I say Jew me, sue me, everybody do me, kick me, kite me, don’t you black or white me, I’m talking about myself as the victim.” Finally, Speaker 3 reports, “Apparently, Michael Jackson suffered cardiac arrest this afternoon. He was rushed to UCLA Medical Center.”

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I was about 10 feet to Charlie's left when it happened. It was one of those moments that will crystallize in your mind forever. You hear the pop, and it’s not completely clear what it is at first. I looked to my right and immediately saw what had happened. It was just one shot. The security got him immediately, got him into the car immediately, and then out again. They could not have done their job any better. Then, what do we do? I sent a message on Telegram to Turning Point, telling them to lockdown. I imagined they’d already seen it, but I said, lockdown Turning Point. I called my mom and said, I can’t say more, but mom, Charlie got shot. I love you. I have to go. Then I met with other team members, and we got to the hospital within about twenty-five minutes, and the rest of the day unfolded from there. Staff decided to address this head on because there’s so much intrigue, and I’m going to do a generous thing. The intrigue is because people care about Charlie. Blake, you were there and you interacted with Mikey. You left the scene and then reconnected with Mikey. So, explain what the video is. The video is by someone who attacked Mikey, Charlie’s friend, Charlie’s chief of staff, a guy we’ve seen on the show the last few weeks. They claim, based on a few seconds of clips, that he allegedly has a nonchalant or calm reaction to Charlie’s murder. This is an extremely disgusting attack. I was there when it happened and I was next to Mikey when it happened. When the shooting occurs, we both hear a loud crack and turn to see Charlie who has been shot. We both realize there is a shooter on the scene. We hear the crack and don’t know if it came from far or close, or if a mass shooting is unfolding. My reaction, and Mikey’s, was to get out of there before we were both shot. That is not us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team; they leapt into action and got Charlie out, which was their job. My job was not to be a hero or get in the way. I remember running past the SUV we came in on, thinking, should I get in that car? Then I thought that would be stupid, and I kept going. I was ahead of Mikey as we left. We got out and ran for more than fifteen or twenty seconds. I paused, looked around, and saw Mikey. I will never forget what I saw. Mikey is usually bubbly and happy, but he was profoundly freaked out. His lip was quivering, something I’d never seen from him. He said, I think he literally said, he needs to call Erica, then he calls Erica. He also calls his dad, Rob McCoy, and says, Dad, someone shot Charlie. You need to call all of your pastor friends. We then gathered to direct actions: to get to the hospital and to relay information to Erica. After the call, Mikey regained control and stepped up, directing a battle-like flow: get to the hospital, wait here, and get information to Erica.

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Today’s date noted as 08/24/2023, with participants introducing themselves and confirming permission to record: Catalina Valencia, Carla Wisman (a DPA of Denton County), Carla Cain, Erin Massey. The discussion centers on observed interactions involving Nathan, Lanay, Mitch, and related individuals. The observer recalls that Nathan and Lanay were dropping off and picking up in front of Richland PD, with Mitch driving his Hummer and parking in front of the first set of windows. Lanay would park near the curb along the building’s edge on weekends when the lot was emptier. Mitch would park in a position that left an open middle spot, and the two would meet in the middle, walk there, then Lanay would grab Nathan by the arm and drag him back, pushing him into Lanay’s Mustang. The observer noted this as unusual behavior but felt limited in what to do beyond being a witness for a friend. The interactions were described as consistently snarky, with Lanay yelling at Mitch rather than at Nathan, and not displaying any positive, calm communication. Additional details include Nathan’s conversations with the observer’s son, Mason, which the observer says became more frequent and frank. Before Candice arrived on the scene, Nathan had spoken with Mason about Candice, and the observer learned that Nathan asked Mason questions about what happened between Nathan, his mother, and possibly others. Specifically, Nathan asked Mason whether he had showers with him or whether Mason’s penis had been touched, and Mason shared that Nathan had asked such questions. Mason, who is autistic, reported that Nathan asked about puberty, and the observer describes Mason’s responses as shock-inducing, noting that Mason often asks radical questions and that the observer needed time to process. The observer conveys that Nathan’s conversations with Mason included questions about whether the observer had touched Mason or whether Mason’s mother had touched him. Nathan reportedly told his father and Candice about these topics, and the observer repeats that the conversations involved allegations about his mother’s actions toward Mason. No evaluative judgments are stated; the summary preserves the exact claims and reported experiences as described by the speaker.

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- I recognized an individual and 'have taken down the cameras minute four after Charlie was shot? The back camera of all the ones when you take the front camera.' - 'I've never seen that. He's never been behind me at an event. He's never been lingering around me at an event.' - I asked about 'his presence behind Charlie' and 'the mysterious phone call ... minute three after Charlie was assassinated.' - He told me explicitly that 'they were trying something new that day. Like, it was something new. Charlie's super ambitious. And on the AV thing, they were trying something new, and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly to Arizona.' - 'None of it makes sense to me because these events are typically livestreamed. But again, something new. Okay?'

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"Pacing back and forth. Sent it to the FBI and said, if there's an accomplice you know." "the camera from here to here took way too long." "If you time how long it took him to get from that little part over to here, was way longer than it should have been." "So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff." "Sam's across the street, he was right here." "The gun was dumped up here?" "Our sacred hill." "This is where we sled every year." "There's the hut that all of you guys would build." "Grandpa would buy extra nails every year." "I saw Erwin on TV as well. They interviewed Erwin out front." "And that's the tunnel where they released the photos of him entering because you can't cross the street anymore than the that underground tunnel. You see that handrail right there? Uh-huh. That's the photo they had of him going down tunnel."

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People on TV claim to be experts on me, even though they don't know me. I knew Michael Jackson well, and he lived in Trump Tower. I've seen him perform and he was an incredible entertainer. He was a friend of mine, a perfect gentleman, and we never had any problems. He's gone through a lot, and I will defend him because nobody else is. He lived in Trump Tower for a long time and we had many great times together at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach.
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