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The speaker watched the debate between Dave Smith and Douglas Murray on Rogan. The speaker says they are an American chauvinist who only cares about their own country and wishes other countries well. They believe countries should defend themselves and if a nation can't survive without being propped up by another government, like the U.S., then it shouldn't exist. Speaker 0 asserts Israel cannot exist without U.S. support, citing its nuclear program, weapons, and economy. They claim Israel's lobbying efforts in the U.S. prove this dependence. Speaker 1 believes Israel can handle itself. They reiterate that any country that fundamentally cannot exist without being subsidized by American taxpayers should not exist, and in fact, already does not exist.

The speakers discuss the United States' treatment of its people. Speaker 1 claims the U.S. is "trash" and doesn't treat its people well, citing healthcare costs as an example. Speaker 0 responds that Trump slashed prescription drug prices by 50 to 80%. Speaker 1 says Trump is "just working for fucking capitalism" and that sellers can raise prices. Speaker 0 counters that Trump isn't taking a salary and lost a billion dollars in net worth during his first administration. Speaker 1 claims Trump is taking money from people who pay for his "stupid fucking coin," possibly referring to a cryptocurrency. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 is upset with people making money off cryptocurrencies.

Two speakers present political grievances. The transcript centers on funding to Israel, veterans’ welfare, and oath fidelity. Speaker 0: "Sending billions of dollars to Israel. Meanwhile, veterans are homeless and committing suicide. You heard that right. I am deemed a threat to national security because I don't support Israel's genocide." Speaker 1: "I swore an oath to the constitution. I didn't swear an oath to the president, to the congress. 20% skill. 15% concentrated power of will. 5% pleasure."

Speaker 0 argues that abortion is murder and frames it as a ritual akin to human sacrifice, claiming civilizations like the Incas and Vikings killed people to appease gods and gain power. They insist abortion isn’t ritualistic, reference an abortion truck outside the Democratic convention, and challenge the idea that abortion is a right, suggesting that abortion is the only right people have. They express empathy for individuals who might face pregnancy decisions, recounting childhood conversations about a 12-year-old farmworker who might be pregnant from rape, and acknowledge sadness about abortion, but insist that now abortion is “the only right you have.” Speaker 1 pushes back by denying that abortion is a ritual and emphasizes that people do not have the right to keep someone from taking a medical injection or consuming unknown products, arguing that the only right claimed is to murder one’s own children. They describe the statement as dark and urge Speaker 0 to reconsider their stance. Speaker 0 responds with a personal perspective as a father, asserting that the most important thing in life is having children and that one’s children are what will matter most. They reject the notion that jobs or material concerns are paramount and criticize the idea of just killing one’s children. They apologize to Brookie for the upset but maintain their view that abortion is grotesque and sad, noting that many people who have abortions are not happy about it. Speaker 1 contends they don’t care about what Speaker 0 says and asserts a lack of interest in further discussion. Speaker 0 elaborates on the idea that the issue is highly ideological and that the reality of abortion is often hidden behind abstractions. They argue that a human being is beheaded with a knife inside a woman, insisting that if beheading didn’t take place, that person could have led a different life, and that it is not for us to kill people simply because they are “in the way.” They warn that if it is permissible to kill children who are in the way, then the elderly or even others could be killed as well, concluding with the assertion that you can’t do that. Speaker 1 reiterates that abortion is a matter of human rights, while Speaker 0 maintains that there is no human right to kill people, insisting that killing people is the enemy of human rights and that the human right is to live. The conversation ends with an unresolved tension between preserving life and recognizing individual rights, framed by extreme positions about abortion and its moral implications.

Speaker 0 criticizes the hypocrisy of the speech and accuses President Joe Biden of warmongering by allocating $100 billion in funding for Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Speaker 1 tries to calm the situation and encourages a conversation after the event. Speaker 0 insists that the American people's voices need to be heard and claims that the president does not represent them. Speaker 1 disagrees and states that Speaker 0's opinion is not the only one. Speaker 2 joins the conversation and supports Speaker 0's view. Speaker 1 argues that Speaker 0's actions disrupt others' opportunities and claims it is not free speech. The discussion becomes heated, with Speaker 0 mentioning historical events and Speaker 1 dismissing their relevance. The conversation ends abruptly.

The speaker references 'Of hostages before engaging in what many see as as a animal cruelty.' They say, 'I can't imagine, this is absolutely astonishing to me, that an animal welfare issue in Canada has garnered the attention of MAGA type billionaires in The United States, which makes me sympathize with the ostriches less.' They conclude, 'But that doesn't matter. What'.

Speaker 1 states that to be convinced there is no white genocide in South Africa, President Trump would need to listen to South African voices, including those of his friends. Speaker 1 believes that if there was an Afrikaner farmer genocide, his minister of agriculture would not be present. Speaker 0 claims there are thousands of stories, documentaries, and news stories about the genocide. Speaker 0 offers to show articles as evidence. Speaker 1 states that with or without parliament, people are going to occupy land.

Speaker 0 states, "God bless Israel. God bless America." Speaker 1 asserts the need to make the people of the country love Israel more, stating, "They don't know what the fuck they're doing." Speaker 0 claims that it's only a few months, possibly a few weeks, before "they" get enough enriched uranium for the first bar.

Speaker 0 argues that "Israel's our greatest ally. We should never ask anything of them." They echo: "Protecting Israel's most important thing. They're our only real ally." They question, "If they're our only real ally, why does Israel have a long history of transferring military technology, including American military technology to China? To China?" and ask, "Why is China running the Port Of Haifa, Israel's biggest port?" They claim "From Israel's perspective, we're not a close ally" and "The loyalty is not requited. It's one way." They say Netanyahu "has pushed it too far" and that "the governor of Israel, in particular, the prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has pushed it too far." They add "I control Donald Trump. I control the United States Congress. I control The United States." They cite Trump on West Bank annexation: "No. I will not allow it. It's not gonna happen." and "I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank." The speaker concludes "It's been enough. It's time to stop" and that "This is why Donald Trump has lost support over this Israel question."

Speaker 2 stated he doesn't think they can change Donald Trump at this stage. Speaker 1 believes Pierre Poilievre, like Trump, will focus on the American worker, securing borders, ending fentanyl, and securing the world. Speaker 2 said he and Poilievre have a lot in common, but Speaker 1 says Poilievre is willfully blind to threats facing the country. Speaker 2 stated the U.S. doesn't want cars, steel, or aluminum from Canada because they want to make their own. Speaker 1 questioned how much steel is used these days. Speaker 2 recounted a conversation with Trudeau, whom he called "Governor Trudeau," about tariffs on Canadian cars. Speaker 2 claimed Trudeau said a 25% tariff would mean the end of Canada. Speaker 2 believes the U.S. subsidizes Canada to the tune of maybe $200 billion a year and that it's hard to justify. He added that the U.S. protects Canada militarily.

Speaker 0 describes a situation where the Canadian government reportedly went onto a private property and rounded up 300 ostriches, killing them. He claims the birds lived mostly under 30 years old and that they slaughtered them for no reason, labeling them dangerous. He asserts the danger lies in their eggs and the antibodies in the eggs, noting that research began when it was realized ostrich eggs could literally cure coronavirus and that a family offered their ostriches for study, hoping the eggs could help humanity. He states the eggs were found to be powerful, capable of curing cancer and tumors, challenging big pharma profits, and suggests there is deliberate obstruction to prevent enough research or widespread cure discovery so people remain reliant on big pharma. Speaker 1 counters by saying the birds are healthy and that their eggs hold a cure for children and grandparents, claiming the birds are being shot slowly and suffering. He asserts the birds are not killed by gunshot to the head but shot on rails, causing slow death, and he implies this is happening to push people to order ostrich eggs. Speaker 0 continues by alleging a broader conspiracy, saying the ostriches were intended to go extinct along with values people hold dear, and complains about foreign government influence, specifically blaming Israel for alleged domination. He asserts that Israel is the root cause of evil globally and claims Israel has no allegiance to any country, arriving, exploiting hosts, feigning victimhood, and draining resources like a parasite. He argues that in the world, only China, Russia, and Iran have stood up against Western manipulation, claiming they ban U.S. citizens from traveling to their countries without permits or a certified tour guide, and that these countries restrict foreign influence and control their governance. Speaker 0 elaborates that in the United States, foreigners are allowed to come and influence politics, leading to the current subordinate treatment of Americans. He references President Trump as once seen as a savior but now claims Trump is working for “them” and taking away freedoms, asserting he is the antichrist due to actions after the public mandate and multiple terms. He states the Canadian government would not have acted this way under Trump, and asserts that Trump would have prevented such actions. He ends by telling the audience to leave Canada, move their wealth to a country like El Salvador, and offers a blessing to the audience.

Speaker 0 states that Donald Trump is in retreat due to opposition to his tariff policies, which are described as chaotic and damaging to the economy. These policies are said to discourage spending due to their unpredictability and harm American families. Speaker 1 claims tariffs send a message to China that their unfair trade policies must end and that failure to reform will have dramatic consequences. The speaker asserts China has a large and growing trade surplus with the U.S., partly due to free trade rules, but largely because China doesn't play fair by restricting access to their markets and not preventing the theft of intellectual property.

Yesterday, Randy Fine called me. He berated me for forty two minutes about the Florida governor's race, telling me that if I entered that race, there would be real problems for me in the future, telling me that it wouldn't be nice to Byron Donalds if I ran against him as if we don't have elections in this country. Randy, if Byron is such a good candidate, he'll trounce me. But the truth is Republicans are the ones who got trounced this week. Republicans got trounced because of people like you and Byron Donald's. People like you and Byron Donald's, all you get done is write strongly worded letters, go on CNN and Fox News and whine, and then come back to your districts and act like you got something done for Americans. It's an absolute joke. The only person who's working in Washington DC goes by the name of Donald j Trump. And the do nothing congressional Republicans, many of whom are good people, but the truth of the matter is that if Elon Musk emailed you guys and asked you what you got done this week, you would say absolutely nothing. Because you know what? Going on TV, whining on podcasts, and writing tweets does not count. That does not count as getting something done for hardworking Americans. But you know the beautiful thing about all of this is that you guys endorse each other. You and Byron are thick as thieves, which is quite fitting actually. You guys endorse each other. Byron, you endorsed Randy for his congressional reelection. So Byron, let me ask you. Do you endorse Randy Fine's comment on 07/22/2025 in which in response to children starving in Gaza, Randy said, quote, starve away. This is the problem. This is the problem with you congressional Republicans is you are not focused on delivering for America first. We did not vote for foreign wars. We did not vote for bombing other countries. We did not vote for any of that. We voted for America first, period. End of story. And what you guys have done has been a complete humiliation, a complete rejection of the historic landslide, the mandate that we as voters gave president Trump. Get back to DC, do your jobs, and actually deliver America first.

Speaker 0 questions why Australia was "whacked with a tariff" despite a free trade agreement and a trade surplus, especially considering their importance as a national security partner. Speaker 1 states they are addressing the $1.2 trillion deficit left by President Biden. They claim Australia bans US beef and pork and is preparing measures against US digital companies. Speaker 1 says there is a global tariff on everything. Speaker 0 argues that "whacking" both friends and foes undermines national security, insults Australia, and damages our partnership. Speaker 0 expresses concern about the lack of trust from friends and allies due to this policy, set to take effect at midnight.

Speaker 0 criticizes the hypocrisy of the speech, accusing President Joe Biden of warmongering by allocating $100 billion in funding for Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Speaker 1 interrupts, urging Speaker 0 to sit down and accusing them of disrupting the conversation. Speaker 0 argues that the American people's voices should be heard, claiming that the president and Speaker 1 do not represent them. Speaker 1 dismisses Speaker 0's opinion and asks them to stop speaking. The argument continues with Speaker 0 mentioning historical events involving John Foster Dulles and the Pinochet regime. Speaker 1 tries to move on and discusses Uganda's anti-LGBT laws. Speaker 0 emphasizes that the issue is not about Israel or Palestine but about war. The conversation ends with Speaker 1 telling Speaker 0 to leave.

The speaker expresses understanding for those against US spending on foreign wars, but criticizes individuals who exclusively prioritize spending on Israel. These "Israel First" individuals, including "groipers" and Nick Fuentes, are obsessed with Israel, ignoring other problems. The speaker prioritizes America, focusing on border security, fentanyl from Canada, illegal immigration, American labor, Gen Z, and national culture. Concerns extend to Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Brazil, with Israel further down the list. The speaker believes these "Israel First" individuals would vote for Joe Biden over Donald Trump, even if it harms America, because Israel matters more to them. They allegedly believe in conspiracies, such as Israel controlling the weather and being a secret cabal running the world, demonstrating their hatred for America and singular focus on Israel.

The transcript centers on a retrospective beginning with a Casablanca exchange at the end of World War II, where Roosevelt told Churchill that the war wasn’t fought to reestablish British eighteenth-century methods, and Churchill asked what Roosevelt meant. Roosevelt answered with a definition of a system that takes more out of a country than it puts back in. Roosevelt died before the war ended, and the result, as described, was the triumph of British eighteenth-century methods or a system that takes more out than it puts in. The speaker then argues that since World War II, the United States has deteriorated: manufacturing employment fell from 31% of the population in 1950 to 8% today, and when including other goods-producing sectors (agriculture, mining, transportation), the share dropped from 55% to less than 20%. The speaker contends that good-paying jobs, industry, infrastructure, and family farms disappeared, and economic sovereignty was stripped by “British eighteenth-century methods of financialization and free trade,” leading to imports of food and “cheap crap” and an exploding trade deficit. The claim is made that Donald Trump is reversing this trend, with tariffs described as a powerful weapon that the global elites hate, and that they are working to rebuild the U.S. manufacturing base and economic independence. Support for this claim includes concrete numbers: in November, 136 new factories were started, along with 78 processing plants and 199 new warehouses. The narrative emphasizes that, beyond physical growth, there is a reawakening of a productive spirit among the population, especially the youth. An example is given from blue Massachusetts, where young people respond to opportunities in vocational training and productive jobs instead of pursuing liberal arts degrees with heavy debt. The speaker also highlights the Trump administration’s broader vision, including a merger between Trump’s Truth Social and TAE Technologies, described as signaling a revolutionary development: cheap, clean, limitless fusion power that could drive the economy forward and propel humanity into the solar system. The broader strategic claim is that, on the eve of 2026—the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of American independence—there is an unprecedented opportunity. Trump is described as dismantling the postwar imperial system, ending perpetual wars, rebuilding American manufacturing, and treating nations as sovereign partners rather than pawns on a chessboard. However, the British establishment is portrayed as resisting this transformation, intending to turn back the clock by leveraging assets in Congress, the media, and intelligence agencies to create chaos and turn Trump supporters against one another. The speaker urges listeners not to fall for it and to keep their eye on the strategic picture.

Speaker 0 attacks Dinesh D'Souza and an unknown figure, calling them 'elite ivory towers' and noting D'Souza 'made six documentaries' and has a 'membership at Mar a Lago' costing '$250,000.' They deride 'low peasant trailer park trash' and say '53% of my paycheck' goes to a government 'inject my children with deadly bio fucking weapons,' adding that 'The only one who's actually seems like they're holding their own... is Bobby Kennedy.' Speaker 1 warns that 'those guys are trying to take MAGA out' the MAGA coalition that included 'Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and Tulsi and Bobby and me.' Speaker 2 argues 'this is a gift to radical Islam because Israel is fighting radical Islam' and cautions against breaking 'our alliance with Israel,' noting 'I'm Christian, I'm not Jewish' and 'Our family has been giving a $100 a year to Jerusalem for biblical archaeology.' Speaker 0 blasts 'Israel is a terrorist state' and condemns the administration for 'selling us out to Israel' and criticizes the films as ineffective, ending with 'Pipe down.'

Speaker 1 states they respect Ben Shapiro, agreeing with him on some basics and his love for Israel. The speaker disagrees with getting involved in foreign wars and prioritizes their own country's interests. Speaker 0 mentions being criticized for an "America First" mindset. Speaker 1 elaborates that disagreements should be addressed with debate, not character attacks, which they attribute to the left. They lament the tendency to impugn a person's character instead of addressing their arguments, finding it "incredibly low." They claim the left short-circuits debate by attacking character, labeling opponents as racist or indecent to avoid engaging with their ideas.

The speaker says that to be convinced there is no white genocide in South Africa, President Trump would need to listen to the stories and perspectives of South Africans, including his friends. Another speaker claims there are thousands of stories, documentaries, and news stories about it. They show a video of what they claim are burial sites of over a thousand white farmers, with cars lined up to pay respects. They say each white cross represents a white farmer or their family member who was killed. The first speaker expresses unfamiliarity with the scene and asks where it is located. The other speaker says it is in South Africa. The first speaker says they need to find out where it is.

Speaker 0 states they are a proud American, but that doesn't mean they have to be proud of the "Cheeto" in charge. Speaker 1 repeats the sentiment, referring to the "Cheeto" in charge and telling them to "get off" the idea of "making America great." Speaker 0 questions if what is currently happening is "making America great," asking, "Are you serious?"

Speaker 0 criticizes the hypocrisy of the speech and accuses President Joe Biden of warmongering by allocating $100 billion in funding for Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Speaker 1 tries to dismiss Speaker 0's comments and suggests having a conversation later. Speaker 0 insists that the American people's voices need to be heard and accuses the president of not representing them. Speaker 1 argues that Speaker 0's opinion is not the voice of the American people. The argument escalates, with Speaker 0 claiming it is free speech and Speaker 1 disagreeing. The discussion becomes heated, with Speaker 0 mentioning historical events and Speaker 1 dismissing them. The conversation ends abruptly, with Speaker 0 inviting Speaker 1 to continue outside.

Speaker 0 expresses the belief that as long as Israel exists and is supported by America, there will always be Muslims who pose a threat and seek to harm us. Speaker 1 disagrees, stating that they do not support Israel and do not believe it is worth American lives or dollars. Speaker 0 questions this stance, arguing that Israel is not comparable to other countries like Saudi Arabia. Speaker 1 clarifies that their main concern is the survival of the United States and expresses concern about the influence of APAC and the lobby on American support for Israeli actions.

Speaker 0 asserts Iran attacked without provocation and insists America must wage war on Israel's behalf, even if it costs American lives. Speaker 0 claims these lives were promised to Israel two thousand years ago. Speaker 1 objects to their children dying for Israel. Speaker 0 dismisses this concern as selfish, stating American children will fight for Israel, who Speaker 0 identifies as America's greatest ally. Speaker 0 urges listeners to send their sons to war, acknowledging Israel funds Speaker 0's paycheck.