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Israel's delayed response to Hamas attacks on October 7th raises questions of a possible military stand down order. Despite being capable, it took hours for soldiers to arrive and engage militants. Former spy Jonathan Pollard hints at a stand down order. Reservists left on their own due to lack of mobilization. The timeline shows a slow reaction to the attack, leading to speculation about Israel's actions. The episode questions if Israel targeted only militants during the conflict. Stay tuned for more on Israel's war on Gaza.

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An Israeli soldier claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies, but this is proven to be false. Israeli media reveals that the IDF destroyed homes and killed hostages in their desperate attempts to handle the Hamas fighters. The IDF shelled houses, used tanks and Apache attack helicopters, and even opened fire on fleeing Israelis. The IDF commander ordered an airstrike on his own position. While Hamas is not absolved of their actions, this video highlights the IDF's poor response, which led to the deaths of their own people. The goal of the attack was to capture Israelis as hostages for political prisoners. Israeli propaganda is being used to justify acts of genocide in Gaza, and the truth needs to be shared to prevent further escalation.

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An Israeli soldier falsely claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies. However, Israeli media reveals that the IDF destroyed concrete homes and killed hostages during their response to the Hamas attack. The IDF shelled houses and used tanks, Apache attack helicopters, and gunfire on fleeing Israelis. They even ordered an airstrike on their own position. While Hamas is not absolved of their actions, this video highlights the IDF's poor response, leading to the deaths of their own people. The goal of the attack was to capture Israelis as hostages for political prisoners. Israeli propaganda is being used to justify atrocities in Gaza, and the world needs to know the truth to prevent further escalation.

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A video argues that an Israeli soldier in front of a destroyed kibbutz home claimed Hamas fighters burned babies and beheaded them, but the video says this is a lie and that it will be proven using Israeli media. It questions how the concrete walls turned into rubble, noting fires burn wood and other flammable items and do not collapse concrete structures. The video states that Israelis want viewers to believe Hamas did the destruction, but argues they were only armed with machine guns and small grenade launchers, which supposedly wouldn’t cause such damage, so the destruction was done by Israelis. It claims Israeli media provides the answers and that IDF soldiers responding to the Hamas attack were investigated. Tuval Eskapa, security team member for Kibbutz Be’eri, set up a hotline to coordinate between kibbutz residents and the Israeli army. He told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation set in, field commanders made difficult decisions, including shelling houses occupied by residents in order to eliminate the terrorists along with hostages. Haaretz reportedly states that orders came down from the military’s high command to attack homes and other areas inside Israel, even at the cost of many Israeli lives. The army was allegedly able to restore control over Be’eri only after shelling the homes of Israelis who had been taken captive, with at least 112 residents killed and others kidnapped, according to the paper. The video notes that much of the shelling in Be’eri was carried out by Israeli tank crews, cited by a reporter from the Israeli Foreign Ministry-sponsored outlet i24, who described small, quaint homes bombarded or destroyed, children’s toys left around, well-maintained lawns ripped up by tank tracks. It contends the IDF, in an act of desperation, decided to kill everyone, including hostages. Yasmeen Porat, a Nova Music Festival attendee who fled into the kibbutz, reportedly told Israeli radio that when Israeli special forces arrived during a hostage standoff, they eliminated everyone, including the hostages, because there was very, very heavy crossfire; she described how Hamas militants tied her partner’s hands behind his back, and she saw her partner lying on the ground, still alive, as security forces killed him and other hostages while opening fire on remaining militants, including with tank shells. This allegedly explains shrapnel and bullet holes in walls and the extensive rubble, and why severely burnt bodies of Israeli hostages exist. The video asserts the IDF also used Apache attack helicopters; an Apache pilot told Mako that many rockets were fired at cars containing hostages. It also claims IDF forces opened fire on fleeing Israelis who were mistaken for Hamas gunmen, citing a resident of Ashkelon, Danielle Rachel, who nearly was killed escaping the Nova attack. It mentions an IDF commander, Avi Rosenfeld, ordering an airstrike on his own position after the Palestinian fighters attacked the Erez checkpoint, with the IDF bombing their own base to kill Palestinian militants. The video concludes by saying Hamas did attack on October 7, but the point is to highlight the IDF’s poor response and the deaths of their own people. It cites Nova survivor Yasmeen Porat believing militants did not want to kill them and aimed to take them back to Gaza as hostages, suggesting the attack’s goal was to capture Israelis for a prisoner exchange. It argues some people question why it matters who is responsible for deaths, including babies, but the video insists the reason to cut through Israeli propaganda is to prevent justification of acts of genocide in Gaza, noting concern over escalation toward a regional conflict. It ends with a call to share the video, “RIP to all those who lost their lives, especially the thousands of innocent children in Gaza, incurring the wrath of a misled population. Free Palestine.”

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- How did these guys not know this was taking place? The whole country is a fortress. - I've been to that Gaza border. You you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR 15 or an automatic machine gun that's an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled. - The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. - Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. - When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's forty five minutes. - They're live streaming the killing of Jews. - Was did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate, non conspiracy question.

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An Israeli soldier claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies, but this is proven to be false. Israeli media reveals that the IDF destroyed concrete homes, including killing hostages, in their desperate attempts to handle Hamas fighters. The IDF shelled houses and used tanks, Apache attack helicopters, and gunfire on fleeing Israelis. An IDF commander even ordered an airstrike on his own position. While Hamas is not absolved of their actions, this video highlights the IDF's poor response, leading to the deaths of their own people. The goal of the attack was to capture Israelis as hostages for political prisoners. Israeli propaganda is being used to justify atrocities in Gaza, and the truth needs to be shared to prevent further escalation.

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On October 7th, many Israelis were killed by the IDF, not Hamas. The Hannibal doctrine involves killing Israelis to prevent them from being captured by terrorists. This is done to avoid paying a high price for hostages. Evidence suggests this doctrine is used in Israel, which some consider murder.

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Israel's military is accused of shelling its own citizens during a surprise attack by Hamas on October 7. Testimonies from Israeli witnesses suggest that the military killed its own people while trying to neutralize Palestinian gunmen. Desperation led commanders to make difficult decisions, including shelling houses with occupants to eliminate terrorists and hostages. The military even requested an aerial strike on its own facility to repulse the terrorists. Evidence points to orders from high command to attack areas inside Israel, regardless of the cost in Israeli lives. This tactic, known as the Hannibal directive, aims to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces, even if it means harming their own forces.

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Speaker 0 states that “this right here was always the plan from day zero, and they just told us,” signaling that the plan has been in motion from the beginning and that the participants were informed about it. Speaker 1 asks the group to explain the plan in detail: how much it will cost, where the money will come from, and who will reward the contracts. The question centers on funding sources, cost, and accountability for contracts. Speaker 2 responds by saying the money-raising part is “the easy part,” but emphasizes that the real focus is the master plan. They say they are working with a group of people who have been developing master plans for two years, implying a long preexisting framework behind the project. They assert that “we have plans already. We have a master plan already,” and mention that Jared has been pushing this and that they are working together on it. They claim that if the world saw the progress so far, they would be impressed. Speaker 0 interjects with a clarification question about the two-year timeline, noting a perceived gap in the explanation and pressing for details on what was being done during that period. Speaker 3 explains the timing more specifically: the material was filmed before October 7 and released later, indicating that the planning had been underway prior to that date. They suggest that this means “they were working on the plans before October 7.” Speaker 0 adds, “So that means that everything else was a script that they already wanted to implement the whole time,” implying that prior material or discourse could have been designed to align with the planned actions. Speaker 3 references Charlie Kirk and asks, “Was there a stand down order?” This raises a question about whether a directive to halt actions existed. Speaker 0 questions the existence of a stand-down order, asserting that “Israel’s the side of new size New Jersey,” then shares a personal observation from a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, noting the distance as forty-five minutes, and mentions that “Six hours. They’re live streaming the killing of Jews.” They pose the question of whether someone in the government ordered a stand-down. Speaker 3 notes that “the sixty minute episode aired on October 19,” and that the material “was filmed immediately after October 7.” They add that the filming occurred “days after the Israel cease fire deal completion, October 10.” Speaker 0 reiterates the sequence by summarizing that the events were filmed immediately after October 7 and occurred in the days following the cease-fire agreement on October 10.

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An Israeli soldier falsely claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies. However, Israeli media reveals that the IDF destroyed concrete homes and killed hostages during their response to the Hamas attack. The IDF shelled houses and used tanks, Apache attack helicopters, and gunfire, resulting in the deaths of Israeli hostages and civilians. The IDF even ordered an airstrike on their own position. While Hamas is not absolved of their actions, this video aims to highlight the IDF's poor response, which led to the deaths of their own people. The world needs to know the truth to prevent further atrocities and a potential escalation of conflict.

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An Israeli soldier falsely claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies. However, Israeli media reveals that the IDF actually destroyed homes and killed hostages during their response to the Hamas attack. IDF soldiers admitted to shelling houses and using tank crews, Apache attack helicopters, and gunfire on fleeing Israelis. The IDF commander even ordered an airstrike on his own position. While Hamas is not absolved of their actions, this video highlights the IDF's poor response, leading to the deaths of their own people. The attack aimed to capture Israelis as hostages for political prisoners. The world needs to know the truth to prevent further atrocities and a potential regional conflict.

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There are credible reports suggesting that the Israeli army may be responsible for the deaths of Israelis on October 7. The lack of discipline and training among Israeli forces led to an ineffective response to the hostage situation orchestrated by Hamas. The Hannibal Directive, which advocates killing Israeli hostages instead of negotiating for their release, also played a role. The incident took place during an outrageous music festival near a concentration camp, which has sparked widespread criticism. Hamas achieved its objective of putting the issue of Palestinian self-determination back on the global agenda, gaining popularity among Palestinians. The violence in Gaza raises moral questions about Israeli oppression and Palestinian resistance. Israel's actions will tarnish its reputation and erode its protection against charges of anti-Semitism.

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An Israeli soldier falsely claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies. However, Israeli media reveals the truth. The IDF destroyed concrete homes, not Hamas. IDF soldiers admitted to shelling houses and killing hostages in an act of desperation. They also used Apache attack helicopters and opened fire on fleeing Israelis. IDF commander ordered an airstrike on his own position. While Hamas is not absolved of their actions, this video highlights the IDF's poor performance, leading to the deaths of their own people. The attack aimed to capture Israelis as hostages for political prisoners. Israeli propaganda is used to justify atrocities in Gaza, and the world needs to know the truth to prevent further escalation.

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On October 7th, a number of Israelis were killed by the IDF, not Hamas. This is not surprising considering the difficulty of distinguishing between fighters in such situations. The Hannibal doctrine is different. It claims that if an Israeli soldier or citizen is at risk of being captured by Hamas or another terrorist group, the IDF will kill them to prevent hostage situations. The rationale behind this is that Israel values human life so highly that they would pay a high price to secure the release of hostages. There is evidence supporting the existence of this doctrine in Israel. Some may consider it murder.

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Israel's war cabinet is accused of sacrificing their own people to continue the genocide in Gaza and colonize the area. The controversial Hannibal directive, which involves killing Israeli hostages to prevent Palestinians from using them as bargaining chips, is discussed. The investigation reveals that this directive is still being implemented, with evidence of Israeli hostages being killed or injured. Families of the hostages are organizing demonstrations to bring their loved ones home, but Netanyahu is accused of gaslighting them and prioritizing his political ambitions. The division among the families is exploited by far-right extremists who support sacrificing their children for conquest. Netanyahu's war cabinet is implementing a mass Hannibal policy, removing obstacles to ethnic cleansing and genocide.

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Speaker 0 says they still have the same gut instinct as initially, finding it “very hard to believe.” They describe having been to the Gaza border and claim that people cannot go “10 feet without running into” a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun, identifying them as IDF soldiers, and they state that “the whole country is surveilled.” They then discuss Israeli politics, saying that over the last nine months Israel was “on the brink of civil war,” and that “judicial stuff” led to “hundreds of thousands of Israelis” taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was “basically redefining the Israeli constitution.” Speaker 0 says “some questions need to be asked,” specifically: whether there was a “stand down order” and whether it lasted six hours, adding, “I don’t believe it.” They argue that Israel is “the size of New Jersey,” and that from Jerusalem to the Gaza border a helicopter ride takes 45 minutes, making “six hours” seem unlikely. They ask whether someone in the government said “stand down,” calling it a “legitimate non-conspiracy question.” Speaker 0 claims “the whole country is the IDF” and states that they believe the government is going to “try to ethnically cleanse Gaza,” using the term “ethnically cleanse” while saying they “don’t use that term lightly.” They assert that officials are “talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there.” They also say their “pattern recognition” over the last five years has become “pretty sharp,” citing examples including COVID, Maui fires, and Epstein, and concluding that when a story “doesn’t click,” “our guts are usually right.”

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Israel's war cabinet is accused of sacrificing its own citizens in Gaza for the purpose of colonization. Secret recordings reveal the government pressuring Israeli families to sacrifice their children. The controversial Hannibal directive, which involves killing their own people to prevent bargaining during negotiations, is mentioned. The mass Hannibal is said to be ongoing, with numerous Israeli hostages being killed or injured. Families of the hostages have organized demonstrations, demanding their loved ones be brought home. Netanyahu is accused of gaslighting the families and prioritizing his political career over their safety. The division among the families is exploited to maintain support for the war. The investigation alleges a policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against Palestinians.

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Naf Erez, a retired Israeli Air Force general, described on a podcast with Haretz and Israeli newspapers that the Hannibal directive was applied at a certain stage because, when they understand there is a kidnap, they immediately say, guys, this is a Hannibal. But the Hannibal they trained for over the last twenty years is for a vehicle we know at what point the fence it enters, on what side it drives, maybe even on which road it drives. This was a mass Hannibal. He notes that this term “mass Hannibal” contrasts with the Hannibal directive, which is to kill your own. According to Israeli media, a quote from YNAT, a large mainstream outlet, states: In the week after Black Shabbat, October 7, soldiers of elite units at the initiative of the Southern Command checked about 70 vehicles that remained in the area between the Ottav settlements and the Gaza Strip. These are vehicles that did not reach Gaza because on the way there, they were shot by a combat helicopter and an anti-tank missile or tank, and at least in some cases, everyone in the vehicle was killed.

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The discussion centers on whether Netanyahu's government is in serious trouble and what recent developments suggest about Israeli politics and the Gaza situation. - Protests and public sentiment in Israel: Proponents point to large weekly protests in Tel Aviv against Netanyahu, noting claims of “massive protests” that have drawn thousands, with some saying a quarter of a million previously. The speakers emphasize that demonstrations before October 7 indicated substantial opposition to Netanyahu, including calls for a commission of inquiry into corruption and judicial overreach. They also acknowledge a shift after October 7, with Netanyahu attempting to build a coalition and currently holding about 65 of 120 seats, suggesting he remains in power. One speaker asserts that protests are used politically, while acknowledging their scale in the center of Israel. - Netanyahu’s political standing and coalition: The speakers describe Netanyahu as facing multiple felony charges related to corruption and note his history of coalition-building with smaller parties. They argue that war and conflict are used domestically to unite the population and distract from corruption allegations. They suggest Netanyahu’s government is the most extreme right-wing in Israel’s history, with two cabinet ministers having felony convictions for anti-Arab hate crimes and holding key security and finance roles. The prognosis offered is that Netanyahu is not likely to be removed from power soon, potentially leading through 2030. - Funds to Hamas via Qatar before October 7: A new report from the Tel Aviv newspaper Idiot “Iranath” states that Israel asked Qatar to increase funds transferred to Hamas in Gaza less than a month before October 7. The claim is that Netanyahu-era officials knew the money would enable Hamas to divert funds to arms and military preparedness, and that Hamas was exploiting Qatar’s civilian aid to strengthen its military capabilities. The discussion emphasizes that Israel funds Hamas indirectly through Qatar, and that nothing entering Gaza happens without Israeli knowledge or approval. - Stand-down orders and the October 7 attack: The conversation discusses Israeli stand-down orders and the protests among IDF soldiers about the events of October 7. There is an assertion that some young women in IDF outposts were put at risk, with questions about what the government knew and whether it allowed certain actions. The speakers describe a view that the Israeli military and political leadership may have been complicit or negligent regarding operations on October 7, including claims about attempted obfuscation of investigations and the Hannibal directive. - CIA, John Kiriakou, and past U.S. behavior: The dialogue references CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, noting his exposure of the Bush torture program and contrasting U.S. actions with Israeli policies. John Kiriakou comments on his experiences in the Middle East, including an anecdote about discussions in Riyadh in 1991 regarding Gaza’s infrastructure, and he asserts that Netanyahu’s government is deeply integrated with actions surrounding Hamas. - Prospects for accountability and investigations: The speakers express strong doubt about a credible investigation into October 7, arguing that Israel is in “survival mode” and that Netanyahu will not be imprisoned. They describe proposed commission arrangements as potentially whitewashing, with Netanyahu seeking to appoint some members himself, and they predict that the investigation is unlikely to be thorough or independent. - Summary stance: The discussion presents Netanyahu as politically resilient despite corruption charges, with a broad right-wing coalition and ongoing protests. It underscores the interconnections between Israeli funding structures for Hamas through Qatar, the alleged stand-downs surrounding October 7, and perceived obstacles to a transparent, independent accountability process.

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The speaker claims the Israeli military implemented the Hannibal directive on October 7th, resulting in the deaths of 100 Israelis. This directive, initially developed in Lebanon, involves killing Israeli captives to prevent them from being taken by the other side. The speaker alleges this has been acknowledged by figures within the Israeli Air Force and revealed by an Al Jazeera investigation. The speaker accuses Israel of bombing cars containing civilians and killing its own captives, citing scared Israeli prisoners released from Gaza. They claim a rise in Palestinian prisoners being tortured, including instances of rape, with perpetrators celebrated in Israeli society. The speaker asserts Israel has a greater chance of returning hostages through negotiation rather than airstrikes. The speaker calls for the end of Zionism, which they say has dispossessed, disempowered, and killed people on an industrial scale, maintaining a large population of Palestinian refugees. They argue that Israel has lost the war in Gaza and will lose in Lebanon because it has more enemies than ever before and more people are critical of Zionism. They also state that the Likud charter calls for the obliteration of Palestine. The speaker accuses Rupert Murdoch's News Corp International of funding illegal settlements through its charitable arm, the Jerusalem Foundation, and funding Benjamin Netanyahu's political campaign.

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Natuurlijk is het vreselijk wat er op 7 september is gebeurd, maar de meeste slachtoffers vielen door het IDF zelf, volgens het Hannibal Directive. Er zijn Israëlische getuigen en documentaires die dit bevestigen. Piloten uit helikopters hebben dit doorgegeven. Het Hannibal Directive en de verwoestingen aan kibboetsen zijn door het IDF veroorzaakt. Dit is breed uitgemeten in de media, inclusief publicaties in Harreets. --- Of course, what happened on September 7th is terrible, but most of the victims were killed by the IDF itself, according to the Hannibal Directive. There are Israeli witnesses and documentaries that confirm this. Helicopter pilots have relayed this information. The Hannibal Directive and the destruction of kibbutzim were caused by the IDF. This has been widely reported in the media, including publications in Harreets.

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The Israeli hard right government has a mandate, and the speaker says they are “going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza,” while also claiming Israel is talking about removing 2.5 million people from there. The speaker further states that the government has a mandate to “go seek justice and revenge,” and argues that the idea they need a truce or a peace treaty is “morally crap,” referencing what they say they have seen involving women and children being burned alive and dragged to the streets. The speaker then emphasizes their personal “pattern recognition” over the last five years, citing COVID, the Maui fires, and Epstein. They say that when they see a story and it “doesn’t click,” their “guts” are usually right. They also say they have been to Israel many times and describe the country as a fortress, claiming that at the Gaza border “you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier.” They also claim the entire country is surveilled. They then provide political context, saying they do not discuss Israeli politics often and that most Americans do not know it. The speaker claims that over the last nine months, Israel was “on the brink of civil war,” describing protests and street demonstrations involving hundreds of thousands of Israelis. They connect this to what they say was Benjamin Netanyahu redefining the Israeli constitution, stating that Netanyahu said the judicial branch has too much power and that planned protests against Netanyahu were expected to draw tens of thousands this week. The speaker says those protests “are all gone,” and claims Netanyahu has now formed an emergency government and has a mandate to lead. The speaker says they are “not willing to say” that Netanyahu knew or that there was intelligence “here,” but they say serious questions need to be asked. They ask whether there was a “stand down order,” stating “Was there a stand down order? Six hours?” They frame this as part of the questions they believe should be asked, alongside the earlier claims about the Israeli government’s mandate and the situation described at the Gaza border.

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An Israeli soldier claims that Hamas fighters burned and beheaded babies, but Israeli media reveals the truth. The concrete walls of the destroyed home behind the soldier did not collapse due to fire, as fires do not destroy concrete structures. Israeli media interviews IDF soldiers who admit to shelling homes and areas in order to eliminate terrorists and hostages. The IDF struggled to handle Hamas fighters, leading to desperate decisions. At least 112 residents were killed, and others were kidnapped. Israeli tank crews were responsible for much of the shelling, resulting in small homes being destroyed and children's toys scattered.

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Speaker 0 asserts that “What happened in October 7 was an Israeli setup,” and questions whether Benjamin Netanyahu deliberately boosted Hamas to prevent a Palestinian state. The question is framed as a direct challenge: “Yeah. Sure. He deliberately and systematically even even told this on record. Whoever wants to avoid the threat of a two state solution has to support my policy of paying protection money to the Hamas.” The removal of ambiguity is emphasized by the speaker’s phrasing that this was done “with the permission of our prime minister” and involved letting Qatar transfer a huge amount of money in cash, “probably more than $1,400,000,000,” with the claimed effect of increasing Hamas’s power. Speaker 0 then shifts to interrogate a separate line of inquiry, asking whether there was a “stand down order,” repeating the question: “Was there a stand down order? Six hours? I don’t believe it.” The speaker emphasizes realism by labeling the question as legitimate and non-conspiratorial: “Was did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non conspiracy question.” The closing remark asserts a collective identity and responsibility: “The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is.”

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LEAKED Oct 7 Tapes ORDERING HANNIBAL DIRECTIVE
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A new Oct. 7 video is discussed, showing conversations about attacking the Gaza border and breaking up areas where abducted Israelis might be held. The segment links subsequent footage and alleged strikes on vehicles and a kibbutz incident to the so-called Hannibal doctrine, describing it as prioritizing killing captives rather than entering exchanges, despite prior claims it was abandoned. The hosts also cover a dispute involving the Committee to Protect Journalists’ definitions and internal pressure after changes in how deaths are counted in Gaza.
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