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During the Covid crisis, there were questions about the need for a parliamentary inquiry into the side effects of the Covid vaccine. The speaker believes in transparency and states that the scientific community is transparent. Patients who have been vaccinated are monitored, and there have been no significant alerts among the 19 million vaccinated individuals. Some women have reported menstrual issues, but these cases are not significant compared to the overall number of vaccinated people. The Covid vaccine has been widely used worldwide and has a lot of experience behind it.

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Immunologist Brigitte Autrand, a member of the scientific committee on Covid-19 vaccines and the vaccine strategy committee, discusses the safety of vaccines for pregnant women. She states that pregnant women were not included in clinical trials, but after nine months of observation, it has been determined that there is no danger to pregnant women. In fact, vaccines are beneficial as they protect both the mother and the baby. Autrand emphasizes that there are no side effects and that these vaccines are excellent. Another study conducted in the United States on over 52 million adolescents aged 12 and above revealed a risk of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly for boys, with a risk of one in 5,000.

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Michael Kane shares his positive experience with the COVID vaccine, while a grieving mother urges people not to take it. Morgan Freeman, though not a doctor, trusts science and encourages others to get vaccinated. The importance of vaccinating as many people as possible is emphasized, especially to prevent the spread of variants. Concerns about vaccine safety and side effects are raised, with personal stories of adverse reactions shared. The need for long-term safety data, especially for children, is highlighted. Some individuals question the existence of COVID and criticize the vaccine rollout. A doctor argues against current vaccination strategies, citing lack of scientific evidence. The transcript ends with a humorous exchange about getting vaccinated.

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Speaker 0: Take the shot and protect yourself and the people around you. We all feel a chill when we hear that. Mrs. van der Hof from the RIVM, you’ve researched the effects of vaccination. If you look under the line, has it had any usefulness? Speaker 1: It has certainly been useful. In fact, from our research, but also from many other studies, people who were vaccinated had a lower chance of dying from COVID, and we see that effect with every shot that’s given. We also studied whether there is a higher chance of dying from diseases other than COVID shortly after vaccination, to see whether there is vaccine harm, and we do not find that either, which is also in line with what is found internationally. Speaker 0: Okay, because that is the story you hear at the dinner table. Earlier this week someone said, I see so many people dying, there must be something. Speaker 1: Yes. Well, there are certainly people who have died due to the vaccination. We cannot deny that. That has been investigated; we find that in the Netherlands through Lareb, and we find that internationally as well. You just have to weigh the very small chance that you become ill or die from a vaccination against the chance that you become very ill or die from COVID. And the balance tips toward vaccination. Speaker 0: Yes, vaccination protects more than it harms, you just said. Also, have you studied the chance of death due to vaccination? Speaker 1: Well, we looked at people who were vaccinated and whether within 2 months after vaccination they had an increased chance of dying from anything other than COVID. If there were an indication there, we would see it, and we absolutely do not find that. Speaker 0: No, that is simply not found. Okay. Mrs. Van der Broek, and the pandemic was a priority.

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Speaker 0 is pleased about vaccination effectiveness in preventing severe COVID and long-term effects. They mention rare side effects from vaccines and emphasize the importance of ongoing monitoring. Speaker 1 questions the safety of products on the market without complete testing. The TGA lacks data on adverse events due to underreporting, leading to audience frustration.

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The speaker states that a certain vaccine type has been administered to one billion people and is safe. They acknowledge a very low risk of myocarditis with mRNA vaccines, particularly in young men. However, they claim the risk of myocarditis from COVID-19 itself is greater than the risk from the vaccine.

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The speaker discusses the safety concerns of COVID-19 vaccines and emphasizes the importance of getting vaccinated. They mention the risk of blood clots with the J&J vaccine but assure that all vaccines are good and safe. The speaker urges parents to vaccinate their children, even though COVID poses minimal threat to healthy kids. They recommend adolescents to get two doses of the vaccine and mention the possibility of needing a booster shot. The speaker suggests that innovative solutions may be required, including a fourth immunization. They highlight the importance of getting vaccinated to protect against hospitalizations and rising COVID cases. The speaker also addresses misinformation and emphasizes the need for everyone to be vaccinated, including children. They mention the possibility of needing additional boosters in the future. The transcript ends with praise for the speaker's expertise and a brief mention of monkeypox being transmitted among a specific social network.

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We have experience with this vaccine in a billion people, showing it is safe. The mRNA vaccine carries a very low risk of myocarditis, especially in young men. However, the risk of myocarditis from COVID is higher than from the vaccine.

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There have been no concerning long-term side effects of the vaccine so far. The vaccine has only been in use for about a year, and we haven't seen any alarming issues with other vaccines that have been used for a long time. While we can't say for certain what might happen after several years, there is no scientific reason to believe that problems would suddenly arise. Although the vaccine is new, we have no plausible reason to expect any issues in the future.

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Taixin Media from China asks about concerns regarding the long-term effects of mRNA vaccines. Richard acknowledges that mRNA vaccines have only been administered for a limited time, but emphasizes that the number of people who have received the vaccine greatly outweighs the reported side effects. He believes that the limited side effects make long-term concerns less significant. Another participant adds that mRNA vaccines cannot integrate into DNA, ensuring safety. The main adverse effect observed is mild myocarditis or pericarditis, primarily affecting young males, but it typically resolves without long-term consequences.

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Jean-François Delfraissy responds to Samia's accusations of betrayal and poisoning by stating that he sympathizes with her but the words used are not accurate. He explains that the side effects of the vaccines were discovered gradually and that there was a precautionary approach, as seen with the withdrawal of the AstraZeneca vaccine due to myocarditis cases. He emphasizes the extensive surveillance of side effects at both national and international levels. Delfraissy acknowledges the individual suffering but highlights the overall positive impact of vaccination in combating the pandemic. Regarding Aurélien Rousseau's statement that there are no side effects with the new COVID vaccine, Delfraissy disagrees, explaining that any vaccine can cause side effects in certain individuals due to their immune response.

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The speaker expresses concern that only 5% of adverse reactions are reported in the database, suggesting it's just the tip of the iceberg. Another speaker reassures that the vaccine is safe and there is no evidence of it causing deaths. Prior to the COVID vaccine rollout, an average of 1500 adverse event reports were received annually for all vaccines in New Zealand, resulting in one or fewer reported deaths per year.

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We have experience with this vaccine in a billion people, showing it is safe. While there is a low risk of myocarditis with mRNA vaccines, the risk from COVID is higher than the vaccine's risk, especially in young men.

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The speaker addresses concerns about the long-term negative impact of the vaccine. They explain that the RNA in the vaccine is identical to the RNA in our cells, which does not cause long-term adverse events. The RNA is quickly degraded and eliminated from the body. The lipid nanoparticles in the vaccine also disappear within 24 to 48 hours. The speaker emphasizes that none of the vaccine components remain in the body after a week. They debunk the myth that the mRNA integrates or mutates DNA, stating that it has no effect on DNA. They mention that 90% of adverse events to vaccines occur within the first 6 weeks, and so far, no unusual adverse events have been observed among the 15 million people who have received the vaccine. The only serious adverse reaction is anaphylaxis, which occurs in about 1 in 100,000 people. The speaker concludes by highlighting the extremely low odds of experiencing an adverse event from the vaccine.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to explain why the vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis. Speaker 1 mentions rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with vaccination but does not provide a clear explanation. Speaker 0 insists on understanding the mechanism and questions why the vaccine is considered safe without addressing the risks. Speaker 2 intervenes, suggesting that Speaker 1 will address the question later. Speaker 1 talks about the benefit-risk ratio and the global recommendation of health authorities. Speaker 0 reiterates the question, to which Speaker 1 agrees to provide a response later. Speaker 2 confirms this agreement.

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Speaker 0 expresses clear personal hesitation about vaccines, stating that they are not jabbed and would not touch the experimental mRNA and gene therapy experiments, asserting there is a lot of concern about these technologies from many medical people. They reference political figures and media narratives, saying Kennedy in the United States will expose much of this material and that Donald Trump is keen to see it as well. Speaker 0 then recalls personal health concerns related to vaccination, mentioning friends who have experienced myocarditis, blood clots, strokes, and other problems after receiving the COVID jab, and emphasizes the idea of long-term effects being unknown. Speaker 1 counters by saying they still believe in vaccinations, but notes that no one on that side would discuss possible problems with vaccines, and they themselves got vaccinated multiple times and are now open to the idea that there might have been problems. They acknowledge the complexity of the issue and state they do not object to vaccines inherently. Speaker 0 clarifies their stance further, stating they are not a medical expert but their instinct was not to have the vaccine, and they acknowledge how difficult it was to avoid it since the state appeared to force people to receive it. Speaker 1 adds that their own vaccination status includes having been vaxxed several times, and they feel okay today, though they recognize the complexity of the situation and that long-term effects are uncertain. Speaker 0 then discusses the notion that the state and public health authorities pressured people to vaccinate, naming the NHS, Matt Hancock, and portraying the messaging as a duty to vaccinate “because you might kill granny,” mentioning Trudeau and the World Economic Forum Brigade as part of the broader narrative. Speaker 0 proposes an alternative approach: those who are vulnerable should isolate themselves. They reference Anders Tegnell’s approach in Sweden, which did not impose lockdowns. They claim Sweden’s economy hardly missed a heartbeat, in contrast to “ours,” and argue that the pandemic greatly disrupted young people’s lives and education, with knock-on effects described as huge. Speaker 0 concludes that those who made the lockdown decisions are not ready to admit they got it wrong, for a host of reasons.

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The discussion centers on COVID-19 misinformation and the roles of public figures and disinformation spreaders. Speaker 0 questions whether doctor Fauci is involved in a plot to kill millions. Speaker 1 says he cannot confirm involvement but asserts Fauci is not an innocent bystander and is aware of his actions; he doesn’t have the information to determine the extent of Fauci’s involvement. Speaker 2 identifies Dr. Dirashid Bhattar as one of the top spreaders of COVID-19 disinformation on social media, citing the Center for Countering Digital Hate, noting Bhattar once had more than a million followers. The dialogue includes several false or debunked claims attributed to Bhattar. Speaker 1 states that “More people are dying from the COVID vaccine than from COVID,” a claim Speaker 2 labels as not true, along with Bhattar’s assertion that “the Red Cross won’t accept blood from people who have had the COVID vaccine,” and his claim that “most who took COVID vaccines will be dead by 2025.” Bhattar’s broader theory is that COVID was a planned operation, politically motivated as part of a secret global plot to depopulate the earth. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes the pandemic was planned; Speaker 1 responds affirmatively but says he has no idea who is behind it. Speaker 2 warns that praising or repeating Bhattar’s views is dangerous, noting Bhattar’s use of false or twisted information to distrust vaccines. The conversation touches on whether the COVID vaccine works; Speaker 1 says the vaccine is “very effective at what it was designed for perhaps,” but “not preventing death.” Speaker 0 challenges this, and Speaker 2 counters that Bhattar doubles down on vaccines being more dangerous than the virus, even in the face of data. A numerical claim is raised: “6,340,000,000 doses of this vaccine have been given,” with implications if the claim were true. Speaker 1 says vaccines are designed with ingredients published and that each vaccine appears to be different, though he concedes not being a vaccine developer. Speaker 2 notes Bhattar has been removed from Facebook and Instagram for disinformation but remains active on Twitter, Telegram, and his own site. Speaker 0 references a September 5 retweet of a photo suggesting AstraZeneca was made in 2018; Speaker 1 acknowledges it could have been fake and questions why Bhattar would share such content. A combined exchange discusses questioning agencies and the consequences of misinformation, with Speaker 0 accusing Bhattar of contributing to a mass misinformation problem and Speaker 1 acknowledging the existence of a large follower base that has received false information. The dialogue closes with a mention of a statement from North Carolina’s Board of Medicine prior to COVID, implying regulatory context or action.

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Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about a report stating that serious adverse reactions occur in 1 in 800 vaccinated individuals. Speaker 1 claims to be unaware of the report but mentions routine screening of literature for adverse events. When asked about Moderna's rate of serious adverse events, Speaker 1 cannot provide the information. Speaker 0 expresses frustration and finds it extraordinary that a multinational company cannot provide this data. Speaker 1 offers to provide the information later but states that no safety concerns were observed in their clinical trials. Speaker 0 concludes that the conversation is a waste of time.

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Speaker 0 asked about the visibility of the medium to long-term effects of the vaccine in three to five years. Speaker 1 responded that they cannot predict how things will be in three to five years, but mentioned that 92-93% of the population will be vaccinated. Speaker 0 expressed confusion, and Speaker 1 clarified that 92-93% is the current vaccination rate. Speaker 0 raised concerns about potential side effects, but Speaker 1 reassured them that if there are any, the majority of the population would be affected. Speaker 0 remained unconvinced and expressed hesitation about getting vaccinated.

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We are vaccinating millions, and while there are reports of deaths following vaccinations, there is no evidence that the vaccine causes these deaths. Adverse reactions must be reported, but many go unreported, potentially skewing data. For instance, only 5% of adverse reactions may reach the monitoring database. There have been serious cases, including hospitalizations, that are not being documented properly. Despite the numbers, experts assert that the vaccine is safe and effective. It's crucial for the public to understand that while adverse events will occur, they are often coincidental. The vaccine remains vital for public health, and getting vaccinated is strongly encouraged.

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Speaker 0 asks if people are not afraid of the side effects of the Covid vaccine. Speaker 1 responds that they are more afraid of long-term effects of Covid itself than the vaccine's side effects. They mention that billions of people have been vaccinated with no major side effects reported. Speaker 1 also addresses the concern that women are more affected by vaccine side effects, stating that there is no scientific evidence to support this claim. They mention not having any information from the COVAS (the organization responsible for scientific surveillance) or any published studies on this matter.

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The speaker asked about the long-term effects of the vaccine, but the response was unclear. The speaker mentioned that the effects at one year are known, but not at three to five years. They also mentioned that 93% of the population will be vaccinated. The speaker seemed unsure and mentioned feeling pressured at work.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to explain the process of how the vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis. Speaker 1 mentions rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with vaccination. Speaker 0 insists on an explanation of the mechanism, but Speaker 1 does not provide a direct answer. Speaker 1 emphasizes that all medicines have benefits and side effects and refers to the benefit-risk ratio. Speaker 0 continues to press for an explanation of the biochemical pathway, but Speaker 1 agrees to provide a response later. The transcript ends with Speaker 2 confirming Speaker 1's agreement to give a further response.

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Speaker 0 assures that reported side effects of the vaccine are expected and not concerning. They urge people to report any unusual reactions. Speaker 1 emphasizes the importance of transparency and unbiased investigation into outbreaks following vaccination. They question the accuracy of recording underlying causes of death related to COVID-19. Speaker 0 dismisses these concerns, stating that spreading doubts about vaccine safety during a pandemic is dangerous and undermines public health. Speaker 1 finds the minister's response concerning and ends the conversation.

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On COVID, there's a perception that credit isn't given where it's due. While the vaccines were developed quickly, they don't prevent infection or transmission and may have serious side effects. In hindsight, would anything be done differently? Studies on the vaccines are ongoing, and results will emerge over time. It's important to note that Pfizer marketed its vaccine as safe for pregnant women, but reports indicated that over half of the 458 pregnant women who received the vaccine experienced adverse events. The ongoing studies will help clarify these concerns.
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