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In January 2023, the speaker went to the Holy Land as a volunteer tour guide with their mother and a church group. The group was stopped by the IDF a half-mile from their destination. Soldiers with machine guns boarded the bus to check IDs. The speaker was told to stop recording to avoid arrest. The bus had to take a longer route. The bus driver said they were stopped because they were Palestinian and was rushing to avoid the Muslim Friday shutdown. At lunch, the electricity was shut off to the whole complex. A shopkeeper told the speaker that authorities often shut off the electricity to prevent them from making money from tourists. The speaker believes the electricity was shut off arbitrarily. The speaker feels that allowing young soldiers unchecked power leads to injustice. They found the Palestinian people they met to be kind, while many of the soldiers were hateful. The speaker's perspective on the conflict shifted after witnessing these events firsthand.

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So you first moved to The Holy Land in 1996 Correct. Yep. As a nun. How are Christians doing in The Holy Land? it's become a very difficult time for them there. Basically, the Christians are in the same situation as the Muslims being a Palestinian. So there's two different things. If you live in Israel, you're a citizen, and so they are can live there and work, but there's sort of some petty grievances that people might have. But if you're a Christian in Palestine, which is where most of activities of the life of Christ are Bethlehem, Jerusalem, the Mount Of Olives, Jericho, Jacob's Well, that's all within Palestine. That's the predominance of the Christian population there, and they're treated with the effects of the occupation.

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Speaker 0: Were I a Jew, I would be a Zionist. And my father pointed out to me, I did not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist, for I am. Israel is essential to security of Jews worldwide. Speaker 1: That this is not theoretical. This is not just about things that happen on Twitter. Antisemitism kills. Hate kills. Speaker 2: I come before you not only as The United States Secretary of State, but also as a Jew. My grandfather, Maurice Blinken, fled pogroms in Russia. My stepfather, Samuel Pizar, survived concentration camps, Auschwitz, Dachau, Maidanic. Speaker 3: We have a common agenda to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and preventing Iran's aggression, maintaining the security and prosperity of this region, and seeking to expand the circle of peace. Speaker 4: On October 7, Hamas terrorists murdered nearly 1,200 people, including over 40 Americans, and kidnapped hundreds of civilians. They perpetrated the deadliest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Speaker 5: Holocaust. Holocaust. My grandfather fled Nazi Germany. Fled Nazi Germany. If we wanna create peace in the Middle East, resolve the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, we don't need boycotts. We need business. We don't need divestment. We need investment. We don't need sanctions. We need startups. We need startups. They met with several Israeli companies looking to expand into The United States. Speaker 1: Actual, literal, no shit, Jews will not replace us anti Semites as very fine people. Speaker 6: I support Israel's ability to defend itself. Speaker 7: It's about time we stop those of us who support as most of us do, Israel and this body for apologizing for our support for Israel. There's no apology to be made. None. It is the best $3,000,000,000 investment we make. $3,000,000,000 investment we make. Speaker 8: two of us were brought together by Apex Education Foundation for a mission to Israel. We hear the call of our Jewish brothers and sisters. Israel was this place I had always felt an, I don't know, unexplainable pull. Speaker 5: And the Jewish people have been the recipients of boycotts for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Speaker 6: So I just had a frank and constructive meeting with prime minister Netanyahu. I told him that I will always ensure that Israel is able to defend itself, including from Iran and Iran backed militias such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Speaker 3: Israelis do not need to be lectured about the importance of peace by foreign leaders. Speaker 9: Why does Israel need our help? We need to get out of their way. Speaker 6: I've said it many times, but it bears repeating. Israel has a right to defend itself. Speaker 2: The message that I bring to Israel is this. You may be strong enough on your own to defend yourself, but as long as America exists, you will never ever have to. We will always be there by your side. Speaker 1: He is a friend of the Jewish people by aligning not even with Israel, but with a certain kind of politics within Israel. And I just think that the American Jewish community are a lot smarter than that. Speaker 7: And even suggested breaking from the long standing US policies on settlements. Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Speaker 9: I was one of the few in congress that said it's none of our business, and Israel should take care of themselves. Speaker 8: Perhaps he does not know that I am the child of a holocaust survivor. Perhaps he does not know that my mother lost almost all her family at the hands of the Nazis. At the hands of the Nazis. Speaker 9: Israel has 200, 300 nuclear missiles, they can take care of themselves. Why should we commit? We don't even have a treaty with Israel. We don't even have a treaty with Israel. Speaker 7: Were there not an Israel, The United States Of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region. Speaker 9: Why why do we have this automatic commitment that we're gonna send our kids and send our money endlessly, to to Israel?

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Speaker 0 explains that the journey was controlled by security, stating, 'Of course, it was wedged between the two giant Israeli bodyguards the whole way.' He adds, 'You want security, the Israelis know what they're doing.' Responding, another participant says, 'Exactly.' He concludes, 'So it was not the vacation I I I planned, but'—implying that security considerations altered the original travel plans. The exchange emphasizes the importance of security professionals and their role in shaping the trip's experience. The description also suggests the security dynamic dominated the travel narrative, with the final line ending abruptly. This account highlights the interplay between safety measures and personal plans.

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Speaker 0 asked Charlie about fun dance parties in Jerusalem after his speech. They discussed Israelis being great dancers and a strong ally. Charlie agreed, calling Israel a great country.

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The discussion opens with Speaker 0 noting that the first foreign visit by a New York City mayor is significant and asks where each candidate would go first. Speaker 1 (Cuomo) replies, “First visit, I would visit The Holy Land.” Speaker 2, addressing hostility and antisemitism in New York, adds, “Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.” Speaker 0 then directs the question to Speaker 2 (Tilson). Tilson responds, “Yeah. I’d make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.” Speaker 0 moves to Speaker 3 (Mamdani), who says, “I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.” Speaker 4 interjects with a follow-up to Mamdani: “Mister Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel… as mayor?” Mamdani answers that as mayor, “I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers, I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform because, ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.” The conversation then covers a direct question: “And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?” Mamdani replies, “I believe Israel has the right to exist.” Speaker 4 counters, “Not Israel. State?” Mamdani responds, “Notice. As a state with equal rights.” Speaker 1 presses Mamdani further, noting, “He won't he won't say it has a right to exist. Does a Jewish state be very clear?” Speaker 2 adds, “Answer was no. He won't visit Israel.” Mamdani claims, “I I said that That's what he was trying to say. No. Unlike you, I answered unlike you, I answered the question directly. Alright.” The conversation then shifts to Speaker 5, who shares a personal rationale: “My my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family, and it could coincide with my young son, Miles, bar mitzvah, if you'd like to have his bar mitzvah.” Speaker 2 interjects briefly, “Okay. But” before the excerpt ends.

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I visited the Gaza Strip with Palestinian Muslim guides. Despite risks, we entered a town and met a young girl. When the locals approached, I stayed to help and gave what I could. Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve peace. I pray they find solace in the Lord Jesus.

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Speaker 0 describes repeated harassment: spitting in front of and behind him, spitting at him, saying bad words about Jesus, throwing stones through their windows, hate graffiti, and frequent death threats to Christians. He emphasizes that this was not a singular experience—“it happened again and again.” Speaker 1 argues that religious leaders must educate people toward tolerance, and that the government through the police must do their job to grant all citizens the right to live safely and in peace. Speaker 0 adds that he expects more from official Israel, and wants a very clear stance from official Israel, from the police, and from security, stating, “we have a problem. And this problem is called Christian hate from Jewish extremists. We have to face that problem.”

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It's strange that many Christian conservatives/nationalists are anti-Israel, given Israel's importance to both Jews and Christians, especially concerning Jesus's Jewish heritage and biblical history. Organized tours to Israel often have more Christians than Jews. All Jewish and Christian people should care about preserving Israel to preserve biblical history. Christian history is tied to Jewish history; Christianity wouldn't exist without Judaism. God's covenant with Abraham remains with Israel and the Jewish people. Israel fights America's battles by pushing back radical Islamic jihadism. Judeo-Christian values connect Christianity, the Jewish people, Israel, and the United States. The threat in America is real; if pro-Israel events aren't safe in Texas, nowhere in America is safe for Jews or Christians who support Israel.

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We used to live together peacefully, babysitting each other's children. We stand in support of the Palestinians and feel humiliated by the Zionist occupation. They have taken our religion and use it to intimidate and silence others. Speaking out against them is labeled as anti-Semitic, but religious communities continue to oppose them.

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I shook hands with a Hamas activist because they treated us well and were considerate. They took care of my mom's needs and were prepared. They provided shampoo and conditioner for women. I didn't ask about what was happening outside.

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I met a Jewish man on the subway, and we discussed the situation in Amsterdam and Israel's efforts to evacuate those under attack. He made a compelling point about the necessity of a Jewish homeland, emphasizing that it allows us to protect ourselves when needed. The recent attacks have highlighted the importance of Israel, demonstrating to the world why it is essential for Jewish safety and security.

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In Jerusalem, the speaker expresses gratitude to APAC: “Thank you APAC. Thank you for standing with Israel. Thank you for standing with the American Israeli alliance. And thank you for standing up for the truth.” He acknowledges the difficult environment, noting a “tsunami of lies, vilifications vituperations” reminiscent of the worst anti-Semitic attacks in history, and says Jewish communities, including the American Jewish community and others, have suffered slurs and murderous attacks—“so did we in Israel.” Regarding October 7, he states that the attack was “meant to destroy us, to wipe Israel off the map.” He identifies the Iran Axis as the aggressor, saying Iran’s proxies sought to annihilate the Jewish people and that Iran sought to annihilate the Jewish state. Over the past two years since October 7, he asserts that they have rolled back that threat, fighting a seven-front war against the axis of evil. With the courage of Israeli soldiers and with American help, he says they battered Hamas, hammered Hezbollah, helped bring down the murderous Assad regime, struck the Houthis, attacked pro-Iranian militias, and also attacked Iran itself. He credits American assistance for rolling back Iran’s nuclear bomb program and its ballistic missile threat, noting that the axis has been greatly weakened but is still there, “slicking its wounds.” He praises President Donald J. Trump for efforts to ensure that those threats against both countries do not reappear, stating, “We have never had a greater friend in the White House than President Donald J. Trump.” He emphasizes his value of support from Americans “from both sides of the aisle,” while acknowledging it has been difficult for some, and respecting their courage and honesty in standing up against colleagues who sometimes bow their head to anti-Semitism. In closing, he salutes those who stand against anti-Semitism and stands with APAC in acknowledging the ongoing alliance and shared truths between the United States and Israel.

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Speaker 0: Of course, it was wedged between the two giant Israeli bodyguards the whole way. You want security, the Israelis know what they're doing. Exactly. So it was not the vacation I I I planned, but

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 where he is from, and Speaker 1 replies that he is from Israel and served in the IDF. Speaker 1 mentions not counting how many Palestinians he has encountered and talks about Gaza disappearing. Speaker 0 inquires if Speaker 1 has ever seen a Palestinian child, to which Speaker 1 responds that he has seen 5 and jokes about looking inexperienced.

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Speaker 0 described a man who wrote me a letter on May 2 and who said, 'one of my greatest joys as a Christian is advocating for Israel and forming alliances to defend Judeo Christian civilization.' A few weeks before the tragedy yesterday, I I called him and I spoke to him and I said, please come to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. He was 'a defender of our common Judeo Christian civilization.' He was 'unbelievably excited to walk at the footsteps of Jesus here.' He 'valued our bond, the bond between America and Israel' and 'did so many things to defend free speech.' He 'had his truth' and 'stood up for it.' 'But he said, you can you can come and debate me' and 'He invited that debate.' It is a worldwide problem, as extremists 'use violence to try to take down their enemies.' 'It's just heartbreaking.'

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Speaker 0 discusses a desire to visit Israel and its historical significance, but notes an obstacle: he can’t deal with the idea of Alex Jones going to Israel to get his orders. He expresses admiration for touching historically rich sites, mentioning he touched Stonehenge and, after a fence was put up, still jumped the fence to touch it. He says he would like to go to Israel someday and touch the Wailing Wall as a cultural experience, and compares it to his desire to climb the Great Pyramid if allowed. He notes that people climbed the Great Pyramid before it closed to visitors, and that he has climbed Chichen Itza. He ends with “It's main deal.”

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Speaker A: The IDF trains American police officers and ICE officers in Israel? They train with US ICE, with US Homeland Security. NYPD. NYPD. And that's what's called through a SME program, subject matter exchange, where our police, etcetera, train with them. So, these National Guard soldiers that will soon be in or are in Chicago have trained with and trained with Israel habitually for years. So when you look at all of these pieces of who do we have operating on the streets of Portland and the streets of New York and on in DC and who's going into Chicago, all components and elements that have trained hand in hand with the IDF or the Israeli Ministry of the Interior Gendarmerie paramilitary police. Speaker B: That's absolutely amazing. I also That's not a coincidence. They do antisemitism training, not just physical training, but brainwash training, basically, for them too. Speaker A: When we entered Israel, they took us on the Hospa tour. They took us to Kibbutz B'Ari. They took us to the Nova Film Festival site, and they also took us to Sderot, which is the overlook just outside of Northern Gaza City in Beit Hanun. It's on the Israeli side of the border Right. That overlooks all of Gaza City. Mhmm. They've turned that into a spectacle. It's a picnic site. Really? You can go up there. There's vending machines. There's an area to park. There's an area where you can get your panoramic view with Gaza in the background, and if you time it just right, there might be a bomb that drops for your photo.

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This is a nation that is the most resilient I've ever seen on earth. It may sound a little bit this afternoon as if I'm almost speaking on behalf of Israel rather than The US, but I want to explain that part of my advocacy in our relationship is because if you came to my house tonight for dinner and you came in and you said, "oh, Mike, we like you. We really think the world of you. We just enjoy being with you. So excited to be here with you and have dinner with you." "But your wife, we can't stand her. We don't like her a bit. I hope she's not gonna be at the table. I would say, well, she will be. You won't be." "Get out. Because if you were to insult my partner, you have insulted me."

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I was once asked why evangelical Christians are so supportive of Jewish people and Israel. The answer is simple: you can be Jewish and have nothing to do with Christians, but I can't be Christian and not have everything to do with the Jewish people. My faith, scriptures, and everything I believe is built on that foundation. We are people of the book. If you read in Genesis that God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel, it becomes very clear.

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the renewal of the Jewish state, is is something that I I think touches all of us. For two thousand years, we were a stateless people. And now we have a country of our own, defended by all the brave men and women of the IDF. I've I've been to Israel. we have two CEOs at Oracle. One's name is Safra Katz, and she was born in Israel. So again, we love the country love the country of Israel, and we'll do everything we can to support the country of Israel. Recently hear that many people criticizing Israel, especially after the Gaza operation. But one thing we know for certain that the Israeli army did everything they could to minimize civilian casualties.

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I think every Jew should visit Israel at least once in their lifetime. It's the right thing to do. Oh, Jews don't believe in hell? Well, that makes my day!

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Israeli leaders encouraged the pastors to be bold and express gratitude for their support. Stand up and be counted. Tell the truth. Speak to young people. Speak up and be counted. I'm counting on you, and I know you'll do what has to be done. That's what our destiny calls for. This is not just Israel's fight. This is a fight for civilization. We are facing very much a civilizational struggle like we saw in the thirties between Nazism and the free world. Today, that Nazism is Islamism in coordination with communism, which today's expression is called woke, but it's the same thing. Behind the scenes, Shira Mills of the Friends of Zion Museum helped make the summit possible. Never been done before. This is something very unique, very difficult, but here we are. From my point of view, it's miraculous. The vision going forward: recruiting 10,000 more pastors in the next thirty six months. Because there's a lot of misinformation out there, a lot of young people that are not for Israel, and they're just getting the wrong information. So our whole idea here is to reach the youth of America and around the world and just show the truth. With a thousand pastors gathered at such a critical moment for the nation of Israel, when antisemitism is rising in our nation and globally, this has been such a pivotal turning point. I believe we can turn the tide of antisemitism. A thousand pastors and leaders that didn't even know each other, and he called and we heard the word of the Lord. And this is a season to see antisemitism defeated and to see God's glory come to his chosen people.

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Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of going to jail, but Speaker 1 denies any illegal activities. Speaker 0 questions why Speaker 1 is speaking freely in their country, to which Speaker 1 responds that it is legal to preach about Yeshua in Israel. Speaker 0 abruptly ends the conversation, but Speaker 1 expresses respect. Speaker 0 claims that the Torah instructs to kill Christians, and Speaker 1 acknowledges the discrimination against Christians. Speaker 0 asserts that Christians are idol worshipers.

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Speaker 0: Participating in the ambassador summit this week, with a thousand pastors crossing the sea to stand with Israel faithfully. Speaker 1: Here for seven days to support Israel, aiming to educate the younger generation on what it means to stand for Israel. Speaker 0: They are not alone; there is a coalition to be a voice for Israel and the nations, an honor, and a call to awaken more courage inside believers worldwide to speak up for Israel; there is a lot to learn and to be present for. Speaker 1: They expect to do this; it is life changing, and they are excited about going back home and taking it back home with them. Speaker 0: To stand here and be an advocate for Israel and for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the midst of this land is truly an honor.
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