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The speaker claims the Israeli war room is trying to get the FBI after them because they published a video arguing that Elias Rodriguez's elimination of two Zionist officials was an act of resistance, not an antisemitic terrorist attack. The speaker says this isn't the first time the FBI has come to their door; it also happened in November when a Zionist smeared them by sending synagogues in their city false bomb threats in the speaker's name. The speaker expresses anger towards the FBI, the feds, the Israeli war room, and accuses them of being traitors to humanity.

"Israelis are not like anybody else. They killed a guy in a hotel room in Dubai, and then after they killed him, they were somehow able to lock the door from the inside of the hotel room. There's an underground" "My experience is universally negative. Universally negative. I've never had a positive encounter with Mossad." "The thing is, you know, the Israelis this was covered in the Washington Post, just a couple days after the twelve day war started." "And what the Israelis did is that they have a lot of Farsi speaking Jews in Israel. These are Iranians who are Jewish and who emigrated to Israel, and a lot of them work from Mossad and Shin Bet."

The speaker was questioned about his duty station on the USS Liberty as a scene leader and member of the forward repair party. He saw two torpedoes aft but not the one that hit the ship, and believed the ship would sink. An admiral threatened the speaker, stating that if he repeated one word about the USS Liberty and who attacked it, he would end up in Leavenworth or worse. The speaker questioned why they were left alone. The speaker felt betrayed and worthless after the encounter, comparing it to the attack and worse than heartbreak. Another speaker stated the admiral knew everything and wasn't a nice man. 28 of the 34 people killed that day worked for him.

The speaker recalls how, in the Mossad, they dealt with a problem in the United States who was speaking out against Israel—specifically, a person who claimed Israel was bombing Lebanon with cluster bombs. They referred to this critic as “Pete McAfee,” and they also called him “Pete the cockroach” because he was noisy and hard to get rid of. The tactic described involved contacting a station in New York or Washington and telling the people at Bneighbred to label him. A campaign would then start, and before long, the critic would be labeled an anti-Semite, a stain that “you cannot wash.” The speaker then says it shames him as a Jew to tell you that, but that’s the fact, and those perpetrating it don’t really understand what they’re doing because they’re losing their own liberty.

Mossad agents are not permitted in CIA headquarters because every time they would come, they would give us gifts, and the gifts always had listening devices embedded in them. And we're like, you guys have to stop doing this. They're like, oh, we brought you a seal of the CIA. You should hang it in the director's office. It's all full of listening devices. So we're like, you guys can't come here anymore. So we had to rent a safe house, and we meet with the Israelis in this safe house. The Israelis are not our friends, period.

The speaker discusses being accused of horrible things due to being Jewish and receiving messages questioning their trustworthiness as a dual Canadian-Israeli citizen. Another speaker asks if they work for an Israeli intelligence firm called Black Cube, to which the speaker denies. The conversation shifts to a specific point that the speaker didn't fully answer before abruptly ending.

The speaker claims that the USS Liberty incident is not the end of the story. He states that American Marines in Iraq arrested Jews who were sniping and shooting at them. According to the speaker, these individuals were employees of Zapata Engineering. Despite being apprehended by Marines after allegedly shooting at them, they were released due to Zapata Engineering's intervention. The speaker alleges these individuals are Jews living in Israel, funded by American Jewry, and of American and European descent. A colonel claims that most snipers in Iraq were not Iraqi, but IDF (Israeli Defense Force). The speaker highlights the precision sniping, targeting vulnerabilities in armored soldiers, and attributes this to Israeli forces.

Flying the Star of David. "We thought they were coming there to help us. No. They were coming there to kill the rest of us and sink our ship." They fired five torpedoes at us, four missed by the grace of God. "One did hit, a little bit." Forward midships, 25 American sailors, marines, National Security Agency, CIA personnel were blown to bits in the blink of an eye. The torpedo lifted our ship out of the water, slammed it down, and stopped on the starboard side. We had "three life rafts left for a crew of 294 souls." They shot them all up; "When we put the life rafts over, they shot two out of the water and took one aboard their boat as a trophy of their kill. The Israelis did." They circled the ship, machine gunning anything that moved. They sent troop-carrying helicopters to finish this off, then left. "They couldn't sink us like they planned with the blessings of, our government, LBJ, from his government onto the Biden government, and all congresses in between have never lifted a finger to, to get an investigation." We've been hollering for fifty six years because they're afraid of fending their ally.

Speaker 0: Agreed with an Israeli request to stop the distribution of a book that contains some pretty damning information about the Israeli secret service, the Mossad, if it is true. Speaker 1: The most sensational claim in the book involves this bloody day, the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing. The book says Israeli agents kept vital information from US Marines that might have saved the lives of 241 Americans killed here. Israeli government sources deny this account. But according to the book, an Israeli informant saw a Mercedes truck being fitted with secret panels for explosives. Israeli troops were told to be on the lookout for the truck. But the book says the Israelis intentionally gave the Americans only a vague warning, not mentioning the kind or size of vehicle. The book says Israeli intelligence was willing to let the terrorists succeed to protect their sources and out of contempt for US intelligence. It says agents withheld information on US hostages for similar reasons. In Toronto today, the author was under a court ordered gag not to discuss the book or the case. Speaker 2: You see, there's two restrictions. There's one restriction that I can't talk about what I learned or have done in the Mossad, and the other restriction is I cannot talk about anything that's in the book. Speaker 1: Israeli officials confirm that Viktor Ostrovsky worked for the Mossad in the nineteen eighties. Alarmed by the contents of the book, they got it temporarily blocked in Canada and The United States. Speaker 3: It's a position of the Israeli government that the information contained in the book could very well lead to the identification of employees of the Mossad and could jeopardize their lives. Speaker 1: But the book's introduction says it does not name active agents and gives only initials. It does say that more than two dozen senior Israeli agents routinely gather intelligence in The United States. Late today, the book was put out for sale in New York after the court lifted its restraining order. The publishers claimed victory, but the Israeli embassy said it will still pursue its action against the author. John Martin, ABC News, Washington.

I never met anyone at the CIA who was pro-Israel because they make it so hard to like them. I knew a couple who were both CIA officers. When they went to Israel on rotation, the station decided to declare them to Mossad. Shortly after, they came home from a party to find all their furniture rearranged. Months later, after another party, all the toilets in their house had been filled with feces. At the end of their two-year tour, the ambassador threw them a going away party. When they got home, they found that someone had cut off their dog's tail. These people were moderately supportive of Israel, but they came home with only bitterness and hatred toward Israelis because of the constant harassment.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss distrust of Israelis and Mossad in the CIA. "You didn't trust them? Not as far as I could throw them." "It was cultural. We don't allow the Israelis into CIA headquarters because they would always come with gifts, and the gifts had always listening devices packed inside them." They x-ray gifts; "'No more. So And was'” and they ban Israelis from campus. Asked about bugs, the reply is "'100%.'" The distrust toward Mossad is "'100%.'" A CIA officer recalls a couple assigned to Jerusalem; "'they were absolutely lovely people. They were declared to the Israelis.'" At a Christmas party, "'they go to a Christmas party at the ambassador's residence. And when they get back to the house, people had taken shits in all their toilets and left it unflushed.'" "'If they do this to the people they call their allies, imagine what they're doing to Palestinians.'"

The speaker discusses being accused of horrible things due to being Jewish and receiving messages questioning their trustworthiness as a dual Canadian-Israeli citizen. Another speaker asks if they work for an Israeli intelligence firm called Black Cube, to which the speaker denies. The conversation shifts to a specific point that the speaker didn't fully answer before abruptly ending.

"What we put up with the attack on the USS Liberty that everyone's so afraid to talk about, clearly targeted on purpose by a country we're supporting, Israel, and it's somehow shameful to say that." "For example, during the twelve day war, such as it was with Iran, during that short conflict, there are a bunch of Israeli Defense Force officers in the Pentagon that week." "And during that week, ask anyone who works at the Pentagon, they enraged American Pentagon staff by just barging into meetings, giving orders, making demands, and nobody did anything about it." "How can a foreign military officer barge into military headquarters, even if invited, barge into a meeting and start demanding, we want this, we want that, you need to get on this." "The more you allow that kind of deeply unhealthy behavior, the more you're going to get."

06/08/1967, the height of the six day war. The USS Liberty, an American spy ship, was attacked by Israeli jets and torpedo boats off Egypt; badly damaged, two thirds of its crew were dead or wounded. The Israeli government and The US naval attache dropped a brown paper sack on the deck in the fore part of the ship, weighted down with an orange, had a business card in it. It landed right next to the severed leg of one of the deck personnel. And the note said, do you have cashless? The attack instantly triggered a domestic political crisis; one solution suggested in American government circles was to sink the Liberty so journalists could not photograph it and inflame public opinion against the Israelis. The NSA rejected this idea with an impolite comment. The planes that they said they were sending to us never arrived. The next day, American ships arrived to take the injured and the dead off the Liberty. Back in Washington, the government ensured there was little information for the press while politics went on behind closed doors.

A survivor from the USS Liberty recounts the 1967 attack by Israel in waters off the Sinai Peninsula. Thirty four of my crewmen were killed and a hundred and seventy one wounded. He says Mirage jets strafed the ship, napalm was dropped, and four Israeli torpedo boats circling the vessel fired five torpedoes total, with one hit. The ship sustained a hole in the side, about 50 feet by 30 feet. He notes that all men in the gun mounts were killed and a torpedo hit the communications spaces, leaving many wounded, supposedly by an accident. He says he intercepted messages that Israel had sent, some highly classified at the time, and that these were forwarded to the government. He asserts, "And I know the Israelis, this is my opinion, planned the attack on us, and they know it too. And I believe our government knows it too."

One speaker states they jump at the sound of a horn and turn pale. Another speaker questions why a group would scramble four hours before an attack. Maintaining nuclear deterrents demands control. There was a plan to bring Russia into a potential third world war. One person states they elevated to battle preparedness level one in the entire fleet. Another speaker claims they were minutes from this happening when orders came from Washington to stop the attack. One speaker claims they were six minutes from World War Three, which would have been worse than anything in history. Another speaker tracked down David Ness, the acting ambassador in Cairo, who received urgent messages to evacuate the embassy and destroy secret materials because Cairo was going to be attacked in reprisal for the Liberty. The Navy was preparing a message.

Speaker asserts the USS Liberty was clearly targeted on purpose by a country we're supporting, Israel, and questions why it's shameful to say that. They reference a "twelve day war" with Iran, framing it as the US and Israel versus Iran, with bombing on all sides. They claim IDF officers in the Pentagon—among other foreign officers—barge into meetings, give orders, and demand action during that week, and that "nobody did anything about it." The speaker warns that permitting this "deeply unhealthy behavior" invites "predators in a foreign country" to take advantage of us, noting "it's not anti Israel at all." They demand leaders at the Pentagon and across the US government "stand up and defend us against all potential threats" and not prostrate themselves before a foreign nation, asking why have a government if it's taking orders from another weaker government, "And they're not even pretending."

"On the USS Liberty that everyone's so afraid to talk about, clearly targeted on purpose by a country we're supporting, Israel." "And it's somehow shameful to say that." "During the twelve day war, such as it was with Iran, The US and Israel versus Iran, bombing on all sides." "But there are a bunch of Israeli defense force officers in the Pentagon that week." "And during that week, ask anyone who works at the Pentagon, they enraged American Pentagon staff by just barging into meetings, giving orders, making demands, and nobody did anything about it." "The more you allow that kind of deeply unhealthy behavior, the more you're going to get." "Because of the weakness of our leaders, we have incited predators in a foreign country to take advantage of us." "Oh, that's such an anti Israel thing." "It's not anti Israel at all." "And they're not even pretending."

The transcript discusses Operation Northwoods, a proposed scheme in the early 1960s by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, led by L. O. Lemonser, to conduct false flag operations as a pretext for invading Cuba and waging war with the Soviet Union. The plan included hijacking jets by remote control, crashing them, and blaming Cuba, along with numerous other terrorist attacks to be carried out under the document. One scenario proposed the destruction of a US naval vessel to be blamed on a foreign power as a pretext for war with an agreed enemy. The narrative then shifts to 1967, when President Lyndon Baines Johnson allegedly operationalized Northwoods during the Six Day War. During that conflict, the USS Liberty, a clearly marked US intelligence ship, was sent by Johnson to collect electronic intelligence in the Eastern Mediterranean, approximately 14 miles off the coast of Israel in international waters. Speaker 1 describes the attack on the USS Liberty: three torpedo boats approached from the starboard quarter at high speed in an apparent torpedo launch attitude. Israeli surveillance aircraft flew low over the ship, clearly identifying it as American. At 2 PM that afternoon, the USS Liberty was attacked by three Mirage III fighter-bombers. The Mirages jammed US signals, and were unmarked, the only unmarked aircraft in Israel's arsenal. The fighter-bombers strafed the ship with their cannons, dropped conventional munitions and napalm from bow to stern. After the Mirages, the ship was hit by a medium bomber, Desalit? miseries, carrying napalm and other munitions such as white phosphorus. The USS Liberty was then attacked by three Israeli torpedo boats bearing Israeli flags. The torpedo gunboats opened fire with high-caliber machine guns and launched torpedoes. A single torpedo struck the ship, creating a 30-foot exit hole on both sides. The torpedo boats then strafed life rafts in the water in international waters. Throughout the engagement, the USS Liberty repeatedly called the Sixth Fleet nearby for air support or rescue. Two aircraft carriers and the Mediterranean fleet responded, but they were recalled by the White House. Rear Admiral Geist, commanding the carriers in the Sixth Fleet, called Washington to confirm the recall. Secretary of Defense McNamara came on the line, and then President Johnson allegedly told Geist, “I want that goddamn ship going to the bottom. No help. Recall the wings.” The report asserts that American forces were told to stand down despite the attack. A Russian spy ship reportedly witnessed part of the attack. After three hours, the Israelis withdrew, allowing the damaged USS Liberty to limp to safety. The narrator cites interviews with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moore, other admirals, and the head JAG officer of the Navy who allegedly was ordered to falsify reports and cover up what happened. An Israeli pilot is said to have publicly stated that he refused three times, over radio, to attack the ship, noting it was an American ship in international waters, but he was ordered to engage under threat of court-martial. The summary concludes with the claim that Johnson had personal control over the operation, positioning the ship in the Mediterranean and making a backroom deal with Israel to attack it and blame Egypt, aiming to draw the US into war and take over the Middle East. The captain and crew were allegedly told they would face life in prison or death if they disclosed what happened. Captain William L. McGonagall is said to have received the Congressional Medal of Honor in secret and was instructed not to reveal it.

In the exchange, the interviewer raises the question of why Ben labeled the 1967 USS Liberty attack as irrelevant to current Israeli-American relations, given that dozens of American servicemen were killed or wounded. Ben responds that focusing on a mistaken attack from 1967, and using it to define today’s Israel-U.S. relations, is irrelevant in the context of modern relations—comparing it to citing World War II or 1776 to define present ties with Britain or Germany. He acknowledges the attack was horrible and tragic for those involved, notes that the Israeli government paid reparations, and asserts that the actual naval record shows it was a mistaken attack. The interviewer presses for accountability, noting that the American flag was flying on the USS Liberty, which would seem to preclude misidentification. Ben reiterates the broader context: people who cite the Liberty often are not discussing the specifics of the incident, but are using it to suggest that Israel deliberately attacked an American ship to harm the United States. He questions whether that is the interviewer’s point and emphasizes a broader agenda. The interviewer insists on accountability and asks why the incident should be irrelevant to today’s relations. Ben maintains that the issue is not central to assessing current U.S.-Israel relations, arguing that the attack should be considered within its own time, and that today’s relations are shaped by a wide range of factors. He notes that there were multiple naval investigations, and that the Navy records show the Liberty was off its usual path, and that at the time, Israeli forces mistook it for an Egyptian ship while Mirage aircraft were deployed by the Israeli military. In the initial attack, the American flag was knocked down, and the assault continued for about ninety minutes; once the pilots realized it was an American ship, they reportedly called off the attack and sent a ship to assist the USS Liberty. The interviewer acknowledges that there have been various incidents and persistent concerns, but maintains that the question concerns American interests. Ben maintains his position that the broader agenda is central to the line of questioning, and questions the relevance of a six-decade-old attack as the number one issue in assessing current U.S.-Israel relations. The interviewer suggests that the audience includes people alive at the time, implying lasting relevance, while Ben calls for focusing on current relations rather than an old incident, noting the existence of a wide variety of historical contexts in 1967. The conversation ends with Ben indicating he will move to another point, signaling the interviewer is not addressing his core question.

- What we put up with the attack on the USS Liberty that everyone's so afraid to talk about, clearly targeted on purpose by a country we're supporting, Israel, and it's somehow shameful to say that. - And until we have some self respect, not anger or hate, but just dignity, it will continue in June. - there are a bunch of Israeli Defense Force officers in the Pentagon that week. - they enraged American Pentagon staff by just barging into meetings, giving orders, making demands, and nobody did anything about it. - How can a foreign military officer barge into military headquarters, even if invited, barge into a meeting and start demanding, we want this, we want that, you need to get on this. - The more you allow that kind of deeply unhealthy behavior, the more you're going to get.

The speaker recounts an encounter with high-ranking naval officers during an incident investigation. They were boarded by Captain Ward Boston and Admiral Isaac Kidd. The admiral “came in through the stars on his on the table,” a striking image of his presence, and he spoke to them as if he were a father figure, saying, “talk to me just like I'm your dad.” The speaker describes it as a great relief, feeling reassured by the admiral’s demeanor. The group shared their account in detail, telling the admiral exactly what they saw and believed. They described torpedoes and torpedo boats being shot up, and they mentioned Dave Palm dropping on their slip ships, among other specific observations. The admiral appeared to understand the situation, looking at the speaker and acknowledging that he “could see that he knew it.” This acknowledgment seemed to convey that the admiral grasped the gravity of what had occurred. After listening, the admiral spoke again, delivering a stern warning. He put his “best stars back on me” and said, “listen. Don’t you ever breathe a word to anybody about that.” The warning emphasized severe consequences for disclosure, with the speaker noting that “you many of the guys got fines, but I they they told me fines, imprisonment, or worse.” The exchange underscored the sensitivity and potential repercussions of discussing the events, even as the officers appeared to understand and validate their observations.

The speaker expresses concerns about American aircraft carriers, referencing the USS Liberty and the Israeli government. They mention “allegedly, the Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft… they did end up paying out the American government.” The speaker worries about a false flag operation: “a missile comes out of Gaza… hits one of our aircraft carriers, but it was actually Israeli missile.” They say, “we should get out of there.” In response, they remark, “It doesn’t matter where the missile comes from,” and then react, “that’s weird, Holy shit.”

The speaker states that the attack on Liberty was not a pure case of mistaken identity and was not pure error. They argue that it’s time for the state of Israel and the United States government to provide the crew members of the Liberty and the American people with the facts of what happened and why it came about that the Liberty was their child thirty years ago to ready.

The speaker reveals he was a Mossad agent in his youth, a detail he expected to be a major focus of his media tour. At 18, he was approached by a cousin's friend and recruited for security tests. His first mission involved leaving a bag in an El Al office to test security response. A second, more complex mission involved attempting to interview the Israeli consul in Montreal with a fake gun hidden in his glove to test security layers. The speaker believes he fit the Mossad's profile due to his Lebanese-Jewish background and Arabic fluency, similar to the famous spy Eli Cohen. A third, more sensitive mission was planned, but his involvement ended when his mother found out and threatened to expose the operation, fearing for his safety. The speaker believes his cousin may have inadvertently revealed his activities to his mother.