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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

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A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. However, this support contradicts biblical predictions of the antichrist ruling from Israel. Jews await their messiah, who Christians believe will be the antichrist. This contradiction raises questions about the true identity of the messiah and the implications of supporting Israel.

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The segment discusses a recent effort in which Israel hosted about 1,000 American Christian pastors who were invited to sign forms pledging to be ambassadors for Israel within their congregations, including receiving plaques and certificates. A crowdsourced list of these pastors, compiled by a popular X user known as Gen X Girl, shows a concentration in the American Southwest (California, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado) with denominations including evangelicals, Baptists, Methodists, and many nondenominational churches. The participants’ willingness to pledge allegiance to a world government is emphasized as a point of concern, with the claim that “their allegiance belongs to God and no foreign government.” Pastor Jay Chase Davis of The Well Church in Colorado (not on the list) comments that the event is “pretty wild” and offers two understandings. First, he suggests understanding Israel’s political instincts and the biblical reality of how Christians should think about nation-states, citizenship on earth, and citizenship in heaven. He notes that Americans naturally favor an “American first” attitude, but asserts that the political entities of Israel relate to America because America is the global superpower, and that evangelicals have been fed a “twisted” scriptural interpretation about Israel and God’s redemptive plan. He posits that Israel is courting evangelical support because evangelicals form a large voting block, and that these pastors are being brought over to become ambassadors who will defend Israel in various capacities. He asserts that some dispensationalist teachings have led to views that could imply salvation apart from Jesus, which he labels as heretical, and argues this makes evangelicals vulnerable to manipulation. Speaker 0 asks why Orthodox and Catholic pastors aren’t on the list and what doctrinal reasons would exclude participation, while Speaker 1 explains that the trip likely targeted a specific demographic (evangelicals) due to their historical theological training (often influenced by dispensationalism) and political leverage. He describes the goal as a tour with credentialing to defend Israel and align evangelical leaders with Israeli interests, noting susceptibility due to confusion about Israel’s modern political actions and salvation doctrines. Philip’s question raises concern about evangelizing Israelis during such visits, suggesting it would not be well received; Speaker 1 confirms mixed reception and expresses suspicion that the mission may be more about indoctrination and political outreach than evangelism. For viewers concerned about their church’s alignment, Speaker 1 advises asking questions, emailing pastors, and potentially seeking a different church if the church’s stance becomes incompatible with one’s beliefs. He recommends consulting historic confessions (e.g., Westminster Confession of Faith, London Baptist Confession 1689) and engaging with educational resources such as his podcast Full Proof Theology and his work with the Center for Baptist Leadership.

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Israel operates the most powerful lobby in Congress, demanding and receiving nearly $5 billion annually. Criticizing Israel is seen as anti-Semitic, making politicians afraid to speak out. The media, primarily controlled by Jews, manipulates information to discourage criticism of Israel. Elected officials are slaves to political correctness when it comes to Jews and Israel, unable to suggest an end to aid or protest Zionist control of Congress. The strong bond between America and Israel is primarily religious, with theological errors in Christianity blinding Christians to Israeli atrocities against Palestinians. Consequently, Israel and Israel First evangelicals are the main sources of strife and terrorism in the Middle East.

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It's strange that many Christian conservatives/nationalists are anti-Israel, given Israel's importance to both Jews and Christians, especially concerning Jesus's Jewish heritage and biblical history. Organized tours to Israel often have more Christians than Jews. All Jewish and Christian people should care about preserving Israel to preserve biblical history. Christian history is tied to Jewish history; Christianity wouldn't exist without Judaism. God's covenant with Abraham remains with Israel and the Jewish people. Israel fights America's battles by pushing back radical Islamic jihadism. Judeo-Christian values connect Christianity, the Jewish people, Israel, and the United States. The threat in America is real; if pro-Israel events aren't safe in Texas, nowhere in America is safe for Jews or Christians who support Israel.

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To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

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Netanyahu's actions have profoundly impacted Israel, the Middle East, and particularly the Palestinians. He has repeatedly engaged the U.S. military in Israel's conflicts, avoiding the need for a Palestinian state alongside Israel. Netanyahu was a key advocate for the Iraq War, costing Americans significantly, yet he continues to evade accountability due to the influence of the Israel lobby. The path to peace is clear and widely accepted globally, but remains obscured for Americans. Many Arab nations have proposed a sensible peace plan that ensures Israel's security based on international law, but the U.S. continues to veto these efforts.

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Members of Congress discuss the importance of the US-Israel relationship. They emphasize the US's commitment to supporting Israel with prayers, armaments, and financial aid. Some mention biblical prophecies that highlight the significance of Jerusalem to the Jewish people and the second coming of Christ. The conversation also touches on the role of religious extremism in shaping the conflict, particularly within the evangelical community. While some believe in controversial prophecies about Armageddon and the fate of Jews, others focus on the belief in Jesus' return and their support for Israel.

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The word "Israel" originated from the Bible, referring to Jacob after his struggle with an angel. It can be interpreted as a believer or group of believers in God, rather than a place. Sabetai Zevi, claiming to be the messiah, attempted to resettle Jews in Palestine in the 17th century. However, his arrest led to the development of the Frankism movement and a more political form of Zionism. Despite opposition from rabbis, Zionists gained support from the British crown and were funded by the Rothschild banking dynasty. The political intent to recreate Israel was made official in 1897, and British troops seized control of Palestine in 1917. The United Nations granted parts of Palestine to Zionists in 1947, resulting in the displacement and mistreatment of Palestinians. The Zionists, mainly Ashkenazi Jews, have support from American megachurches and Christian evangelicals who believe in the rebuilding of Solomon's temple. However, the Al Aqsa Mosque, a significant Islamic site, stands in the way. The choice between peace and conflict remains.

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Greater Israel refers to Israel's control over territories including the West Bank, Golan Heights, and East Jerusalem, all captured in 1967. Netanyahu has stated that these areas will not be returned, citing safety concerns and a reluctance to negotiate peace or a Palestinian state. Additionally, some religious zealots believe that biblical texts justify claiming land from the Nile to the Euphrates, which could extend Israel's territory to parts of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. These beliefs drive a faction within the government that seeks to expand Israel's borders based on religious convictions.

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The word "Israel" in the Bible refers to believers in God, not a place. Sabbatai Zevi tried to resettle Jews in Palestine in 1666 but was arrested. Zionism became political, supported by the British crown and Rothschild banking dynasty. In 1917, the Balfour Declaration led to British control of Palestine for Zionists. The UN granted parts of Palestine to Zionists in 1947, causing Palestinian displacement. Zionists, mostly Ashkenazi Jews, have Christian evangelical support. The temple of Solomon must be rebuilt for the messiah to come, conflicting with the Al Aqsa Mosque. Choose peace over conflict.

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The speaker argues that “Christians evangelists here in America, which almost all of them are Republicans, they probably all gonna vote for Trump” and that they are “very poor Israel.” He says, without Christianity, the U.S. has little to do with Israel, noting “The only things they are helping us is because of religion reason.” He contends they’re “not doing it for us. They are doing it only for themselves.” He warns, “Make no mistake. They all believe that once we will go back to the holy land and JC Penny will show up to redeem the world, he will put us all to be burned in hell,” because “we've never accepted him, and we won't accept him.” He questions why “a lot of the people who made Aliyah, it's Christian money,” adding “They get hundreds of millions of dollars donation from them.” He says “the Messiah would come,” but “They just have the wrong identity of the Messiah. That's it. They believe that it's actually JC.” “They would dump all the Christian symbols you know well because it would be so obvious that it's all fake. Mhmm. Rabbi Thay”

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Speaker 0 believes Christians are biblically commanded to support Israel, based on the idea that those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern political entity of Israel, with its current borders and leadership, as opposed to the Jewish people. Speaker 0 affirms that the biblical reference to Israel does indeed refer to the modern nation-state, which he says is the same nation of Israel spoken about in Genesis. Speaker 1 expresses skepticism, suggesting that most people interpret the Genesis passage as referring to the Jewish people, not necessarily the political entity of modern Israel.

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Speaker 0 states their support for Israel stems from a biblical teaching: those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern government of Israel. Speaker 0 clarifies the Bible refers to the nation of Israel. Speaker 1 asks for a definition of Israel, questioning if it means the current political entity run by Benjamin Netanyahu, and Speaker 0 confirms that it does. Speaker 1 suggests the Genesis verse refers to the Jewish people, but Speaker 0 disagrees. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0 cannot cite the exact scripture. Speaker 0 says they are explaining their personal motivation, not saying all Christians must support the modern state of Israel. Speaker 1 summarizes Speaker 0's position as being based on a Bible verse they cannot locate.

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"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

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Netanyahu controls Trump, not the other way around, which will also be the case regarding Israel's nuclear weapons. The influence of Israelis and their control over the US administration and Congress is unquestionable. Netanyahu has more influence in the US Congress than Donald Trump and is getting everything he wants. There is a groundswell in Congress to back Israelis and Netanyahu, no matter what he's done. After a hospital was hit in Israel, Netanyahu is saying they need to bomb and obliterate Iran.

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Christian Zionism, an influential movement in the US, is often overlooked. It predates Jewish Zionism and has gained popularity since the 19th century. Figures like Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman, who read the Bible daily, are believers in biblical prophecies that promise land to Israel. This movement has expanded from elites to the masses, particularly with the rise of far-right evangelical Christians in the 1950s. They form a significant base for the Republican Party, supporting Israel fervently. However, their theology is both pro-Israel and anti-Semitic, as they believe that supporting Israel will lead to Armageddon, where only a small number of Jews will be saved. Despite the majority of Jewish support going to Democrats, the Republican Party remains more extreme in its backing of Israel due to this base.

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The US unconditionally supports Israel with weapons, money, and diplomatic backing, unlike any other country relationship. This support is not solely strategic but driven by the powerful Israel lobby influencing US foreign policy to benefit Israel. The lobby's success in ensuring unwavering US support for Israel is remarkable.

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The speaker identifies as a Gentile and not Jewish, sharing his 23andMe results: “I’m hopelessly Gentile. I am like, I am white trash.” He explains he is “Scottish and Irish” and that his love for the Jewish people grew after entering a relationship with Jesus Christ and studying the Bible. He emphasizes that “everything we have came through the Jewish people,” including the Bible and the Messiah, stating, “My Bible has come through the Jewish people. My Messiah came through the Jewish people.” He recalls being invited to speak at the Museum of Tolerance after a horrible attack on Israel, telling a Jewish audience that his material and faith trace back to the Jewish people. He warns, “Woe to the person who seeks to destroy Israel or the Jewish people,” citing God’s promise: “I will bless those that bless you, and I will curse those that curse you.” The speaker asserts that a key reason God has blessed the United States of America is because the country has stood by Israel and the Jewish people, and that this stance should continue in the future. He concludes by tying this belief to voting, saying, “When it comes to casting your vote for the next president, I’m one of the things that I’m gonna look for is a president that understands this principle, and will stand behind Israel in her future.”

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Two ultra-orthodox members of Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition introduced a bill that would criminalize sharing the gospel of Jesus in Israel, punishable by up to two years in prison. The bill, introduced by Moshe Gaffney and Yakov Asher, would make it illegal to share religious beliefs in conversation, online, in print, or by mail, specifically targeting Christians. Joel Rosenberg, a Jewish follower of Jesus, stated that while theological differences exist, evangelical Christians have strongly supported Israel, and this bill would stifle freedom of speech. Netanyahu, a friend to evangelicals, believes in protecting freedom of speech and Israel's Christian community. The bill could cause conflict with the millions of evangelicals worldwide. A similar bill introduced by Gaffney in 1999 failed, but United Torah Judaism holds more power now, potentially impacting Netanyahu's coalition and leadership.

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I was once asked why evangelical Christians are so supportive of Jewish people and Israel. The answer is simple: you can be Jewish and have nothing to do with Christians, but I can't be Christian and not have everything to do with the Jewish people. My faith, scriptures, and everything I believe is built on that foundation. We are people of the book. If you read in Genesis that God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel, it becomes very clear.

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Netanyahu understands the U.S. and currently has more control over U.S. foreign and defense policy than the U.S. president. The Israeli lobby has achieved its goal of unconditional U.S. backing. Netanyahu believes this control is temporary, so he's using this moment for Israel to establish permanent Israeli, Jewish, military, and political hegemony over the region, create greater Israel, and put everyone on notice that they are in charge. He is confident he has U.S. backing. The U.S. will not put vast numbers of troops on the ground because it doesn't have them to commit.

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Evangelical Christians in America strongly support Israel, a newer phenomenon in history. Christian Zionists believe Jews are God's chosen people, a view dating back a few hundred years. Replacement theology, claiming the church replaced Israel, fuels antisemitism. Historical figures like John Chrysostom and Saint Augustine expressed anti-Jewish sentiments. Throughout history, church leaders viewed Jews negatively, rejecting them as God's chosen people. This belief is relatively recent.

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A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. This contradicts Christian beliefs, as supporting Israel could align with the arrival of the antichrist according to biblical predictions. Jews await their messiah, who they believe will rule the world from Israel, while Christians predict the antichrist will do the same. This creates a paradox in evangelical support for Israel.

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Prime Minister Netanyahu characterizes his mission as historic and spiritual, expressing a connection to a vision of greater Israel and answering 'Very much' when asked if he acts on behalf of the Jewish people. The discussion outlines competing conceptions of greater Israel, including a map that appears to extend across Egypt, parts of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, the Sinai, and encompass Israel, West Bank and Gaza. Saudi Arabia condemns the statements, rejecting the settlement and expansionist plans. The hosts argue the expansionist project is ideological rather than purely defensive, linking it to broader regime change and destabilization in the region, with U.S. backing deemed enabling. Bezal Smotrich approves new housing in areas that block Palestinian statehood, saying that 'by doing this we bury the idea of a Palestinian state.' West Bank annexation is described as 'de facto complete,' while U.S. politicians such as Lindsey Graham defend Israel as 'the best friend we could ever have' and warn that cutting support would invite divine punishment. The discussion also touches on Abraham Accords and evangelical support.
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