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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 weave a dual-themed argument that identifies Rome with Edom and portrays a stark, apocalyptic conflict between Israel and the nations, particularly Christianity. They claim that the Romans identified with Edom are the evil kingdom in the Talmud and that Edom’s deviousness must end. They insist that “the Romans who are identified with Edom… whenever we see evil kingdom in the Talmud is always Rome,” and they repeatedly connect Edom to Amalek as “the grandson of Asav of Edom.” They state that Edom, Rome, and Amalek are essentially the same core force and that this force will be destroyed, with its memory removed from existence at the end of time. They argue that Israel holds a unique, exclusive position: “everything in creation from beginning to end is all about Israel. And it’s all for Israel. We have the Torah which was given to us from heaven and it will be in our hands for eternity.” They declare that “that’s only us” and that “the nations” are not in this plan. God, they assert, “put his name in us” and “revealed himself to the world through us,” calling Israel God’s firstborn son. They claim Christianity and Israel can never coexist, because they are opposites: “There can never be two on top. Only one.” They illustrate this with hand motions, describing one as up and one as down, and compare Catholic rhetoric as a mirror opposite to their own. Speaker 1 adds that the end-time plan involves the destruction of Edom and the false messiah, followed by the appearance of the true messiah, with Messiah ben David gathering the exiles and a third temple being built only after Edom’s fall and the false messiah’s exposure. They connect the end of Edom to the rise of Israel and to Jerusalem being built “properly.” They identify Satan as the archangel for Edom and describe Israel as rising “when Edom and the false messiah” are defeated. There is extensive apocalyptic projection: the world will turn against Israel via the Gog and Magog framework; all 70 nations will oppose Israel; Amalek and Ishmael are fused into broader conflicts between Ishmael, Edom, Christians, and Muslims. They describe Edom’s destruction as the destruction of Western civilization—Europe and the United States—as precursors to a messianic age. They claim that “the whole world’s destruction” will occur, with wars invoked by the “two-part plan” to remove idols and to force a convergence of Jewish law with end-time prophecy. Speaker 3 contributes historical-war context, noting that wars have historically led to the collapse of nations, and that World War II is cited in their framework as part of a longer arc toward a third world war that begins with Halta Deguila (redemption) and becomes the redemption when the Edomites are destroyed. They predict that major future wars will pit Ishmael against Edom and Muslims against Christians, and they recount how the Midrash portrays events culminating in Edom’s destruction before Mashiach’s arrival. Overall, the dialogue centers on a binary cosmic struggle: Israel’s divine exclusivity versus Edom’s (Rome’s) doom, with the end-times script predicting universal opposition to Israel, the downfall of Western powers, and the eventual assembling of a messianic order after the fall of the false messiah.

Europeans will pay dearly for their ignorance, as Islam aims to eradicate Italy and Christianity. This war is seen as necessary for Israel's protection. The rise of Islam in Europe is viewed as a positive development for the Jewish people. The prophecy foretells that Israel will ultimately prevail and dominate the world.

Edom is equated with Christendom, Western civilization, and specifically the United States, representing the modern-day embodiment of Esau. Edom is considered the implacable enemy of the Jewish people, a constantly morphing entity that began as Rome and transformed into the Christian Empire. This "kingdom" is destined for a crushing defeat and utter destruction, as prophesied in Jewish texts. The symbol of Edom is the fish, an early Christian symbol. Muslims will incite wars against Edom/Christians. The fall of America is seen as a necessary precursor to the messianic age. The "children of Esav" are described as still hating the Jewish people. God will crush Edom and take revenge on the nations that have opposed the Jewish people.

It's the end of days. You're gonna need the iron of which represents which is the West, Europe, and The Americas to get intermixed with Ishmael, which is basically Arabs and and Muslims. How in the world was this ever gonna happen if not for this refugee crisis? This is a fulfillment of, you know, the and the prophecies. France is completely barbecued. England is next. Now half of Europe is completely half dead. Now look what's going on in America. So, you know, now in a country near you. As a nation, they'll cease to exist, even as individuals. In modern terminology, they call it cultural genocide. They'll be annihilated.

Speaker 0: Aesop, who became Edom, who became the Roman Empire, which metamorphosed into the Christian Empire, which became Christian civilization, which is now represented by The United States Of America, will suffer a crushing, humiliating defeat. Speaker 1: So one of the things that has to happen is America has to fall. I mean, because the American led world the world order, that's the American led order is gonna end. It can that's not the same as the very end that we read in the Bible. So somehow, we're gonna see a collapse. Speaker 2: The spiritual heirs of the Roman Empire is the Western world, United States Of America, so The USA will last until Mashiach comes. Speaker 3: The West is Rome. According to the simple meaning, you know, Europe and America are really one entity. Speaker 1: And the thing is, listen, we are already deteriorating economically, our position in the world. Our enemies are rising. China is rising. Others are rising. Speaker 4: I mean, America is strong, but not when they're going against three, four armies. Speaker 3: All the nation all the mountains are gonna be full of blood of of of the corpses of Edom because of the vengeance that Hashem is gonna take from them. Speaker 4: Will rise and will destroy completely the city of Edom and will completely uproot them. Speaker 3: But we know one thing. Right? That when it comes to the classic Rome, you know, which is Europe, they're finished. Speaker 4: And you don't have to be a prophet or a great analysis for that. You have to open the view the the the the TV or the Internet and see that exactly what was prophesied then, that the sons of Ishmael are gonna go and cause cause havoc around the world. So France is completely barbecued. England is next. Now half of Europe is completely half dead. Speaker 0: Now look what's going on in America. So, you know, now in a country near you. Speaker 1: If America doesn't turn back, which is not looking like that now, we are gonna see a collapse of the entire world war. Speaker 5: Once we will leave this place, Hashem will bury America. That's what's gonna happen. Not because I'm some kind of a prophet. I'm not giving you any prophecies here. I'm just describing to you a divine formula. Speaker 0: But regarding Esau, Adam, we stress their complete destruction and that God will throw them into the endless pit of darkness and oblivion.

One way to collapse a nation is through its economy or war, as happened to the Babylonians and Persians. Europe and the United States are modern Rome, but Europe is finished. A third world war will dwarf World War II. The West (Europe and the Americas) will intermix with Arabs and Muslims due to the refugee crisis, fulfilling prophecy. Wars will occur because of past bloodshed. The sons of Ishmael will cause havoc globally; France and England are next, and Europe is half-dead. Many will be killed, fulfilling prophecy and signaling the world's end. Goyim will be punished for causing Jewish suffering. Europe hasn't learned multiculturalism, and Jews will be central to Europe's transformation and resented for their leading role. Europe is drenched in Jewish blood. If the Gaza genocide isn't halted, a new world order will emerge where powerful nations publicly carry out massive killings, sending a message that revolt will be met with unrestrained killing. One day, everyone will be Palestinian.

Speaker 0: 5,000,000 Jews in Israel and 5,000,000 Jews in America cannot defeat 1,300,000,000 Muslims. But if the Christians are with us, maybe we have a fighting chance. It’s very unpalatable for Jews to love the Christians or to understand even if we don’t love the Christians that we should let the Christians help us. We should let the Christians help us. Speaker 1: What’s going on in the world today? There’s a very big divide. The 70 nations are really 35 and 35, and 35 are controlled by Edom, the Western world (what many consider America), and 35 are controlled by Ishmael, the Arab Muslim world. That world history is coming down to the two powers, the Western world against Ishmael. The question is, who stands last in that great war, which is also called Goy Gomagog. Right now, we are undergoing two simultaneous Golusim, Edom and Yeshma’am. We know that the two nations that will last till Mashiach comes is Rome and Yeshma’am. These are the only two nations that will exist until Mashiach comes. And, we wanna know who’s gonna be the last man standing, Asaph or Ishmael? By the way, my message to both of them is we wish both of them to wipe each other out. And, we all feel very comfortable here in the Western world. Yeah. You know, America will protect us and America will conquer Yeshmaul and then Mashiach will come. But, whatever it is, we wish both sides wiping out the other party. Speaker 2: There’s a battle between Edom and Ishmael. And until the end of days, these two forces will counterbalance. But what’s the greatest danger in the world? The greatest danger is if Eisov and Ishmael ever came together, if they ever united, they would destroy the world. You can never mix and together. When and come together, they destroy the world. Esau and Ishmael two times in history, and those were the two most dangerous moments in the collective history of a Jewish program. When Edom and Ishmael come together, Speaker 3: it brings destruction to the world. Speaker 1: If you wanna know, what would the world look like if the Western world and Ishmael ever got together? Auschwitz.

Speaker 0: Uprooted. Therefore, God tells us we should erase their memory, and we should eradicate them from the face of the earth. So when a Jew enters into Edith, into the land of Israel, what should he do? The first thing appoint a king. Step two, destroy Amalek. Speaker 1: Asaf, who in modern day terms is really basically, you know, certainly one of them is is is America. Asaf became Edoim, which is a nation. Edoim became Rome. Instead of it being Rome, it became Christianity. Christianity, of course, ultimately became Western civilization. So Ace of today is really Western civilization. But the new Rome, United States. But the new realm. Esau is Europe. The United States. Speaker 0: The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Speaker 1: Any nation that has that religion can be considered Esau. Speaker 0: The audacity, the chutzpah to destroy Amalek and to cut off the offsprings of the nation of Amalek. Mister Frie goes on to say, how do how do we do this today? What would be the most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do, the most appropriate fitting thing? One said that the last thing that a Jew should do when he or she leaves Europe is

Biden's election victory was claimed to be rigged by secret societies, but the Lord allowed it as a message to America. The Lord compares Biden forgetting his name to America forgetting His name. America has drifted away from Christ and is on the verge of collapse. However, Trump will win the 2024 election, as Jesus wants to bring more people to Him before the door closes. The church has lost its way, with leaders working for Satan instead of Christ.

God commands Jews entering Israel to appoint a king and destroy Amalek. Amalek originates from Esav, Jacob's brother. Esav, in modern terms, is America. Esav became Edoine, then Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Esav today is Western civilization, specifically the United States and Europe, the new Rome. The throne of God is incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. Any nation with that religion can be considered Eisav. The most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do when leaving Europe is to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

Europe and the United States are facing significant challenges. Rabbis warn that before the arrival of mashiach, many wars will occur, leading to widespread destruction and loss of life. The next war is expected to be far more devastating than World War II. Those responsible for the suffering of the Jewish people will face consequences. The history of Europe is marked by the bloodshed of Jews, and there is little to admire about life in Europe today. A new world can only emerge after the old one is dismantled.

The discussion centers on the idea that the rule of Edom remains over the world today, a state described as persisting even after the Holocaust and the mass devastation of millions. Despite Edom’s dominance, Hashem’s mercy (Cheshet) acts as a restraint that prevents them from fully destroying holiness. This divine restraint leads Edom to provoke fights within itself rather than directing its aggression outright at Israel; the nations of Edom fight each other, not Israel, thereby averting a unified assault on Am Yisrael. A key source cited is the Mishnah in Megillah, where Rabbi Yitzhak asks for the meaning of the verse “Do not grant the desire of the wicked” and Ya’aqob pleads before Hashem not to let Esav, Edom, the wicked, realize his heart’s desire or let his plan succeed. If Edom unleashed its potential, it would destroy the entire Earth. This is tied to post-Hiroshima context, underscoring the fear of vast destructive power. Hashem restrains Edom so their hatred does not fully realize itself; if it did, there would be no survival for the people of Israel. Since AM Israel’s existence is described as the foundation of the world, the fall of Israel would mean the nullification of creation’s purpose. The world’s destiny, the claim goes, rests in the hands of Am Yisrael; without them, the world would be ruined and meaningless. Traditional interpretations are layered: the Quran mentions 300 crowned officers in Girmamia (interpreted as Germany) and 365 dukes in Rome, with daily mutations of leadership and ongoing internal battles. Meral and Ezra Israel interpret this as evidence of perpetual internal strife among Edom’s ruling powers—Germany and Rome—whose unity is prevented by divine restraint, forcing aggression to express itself against one another rather than Israel. The imagery of a man breaking his own vessel is used to illustrate how Edom’s power is diverted inward when unrestrained. The broader implication is that the Western powers (Germany and Rome) are descended from Edom, and their competition and conflict allow space for other nations to exist independently. Yet Edom’s control over the world remains, and the rule continues until the arrival of Mashiach. Israel’s situation is described as akin to a vassal state to the United States, complicating autonomy. There is also discussion of eschatology, with the Maral and other sources noting that while some Midrashim present Edom as the final exile and battle, the final confrontation may involve Ishmael alongside Edom, with Gog and Magog occurring in the North. The final message emphasizes that, until Mashiach, peace remains elusive because of the ongoing struggle among Edom’s powers and their relation to other nations, a reality in which Edom’s children currently hold sway. The Targum Yerushalmi’s line about Zion reinforces the expectation of redemption and ongoing non-rest for the nations until then.

Islam will come when Europe, the Christian West, has completely fallen. This is a new experience for us, as we have always said that the excellence of the market will cost Europeans dearly. But you won't even have it, and you won't have it in the future, because all the harm you have done will come back to you today. That's why the headquarters of Christianity, which is currently in Estav, will disappear. It's certain, it's the famous Islam. Islam is the palace of Israel, know that.

Europeans will pay a high price, as they have no idea what they're talking about. Italy will disappear against Edom, where the Christian headquarters is located. Islam wants to destroy this place. Islam is the enemy of Israel. The war we are experiencing is necessary because it prevents Israel from going to war. This should be good news for the Jewish people. We are finally approaching the time when the prophecies will be fulfilled. The world will be dominated by Israel, and the only power will be attached to the stone that will grow.

Biden's election victory was claimed to be rigged by secret societies, but the Lord allowed it to send a message to America. The Lord compares Biden forgetting his name to America forgetting His name. America has drifted away from Christ and is on the verge of collapse. However, Trump will win the 2024 election, as Jesus wants to bring more people to Him before the door closes. The church has strayed from Christ, with leaders working for Satan instead.

Speaker 0 describes Jewish eschatology as follows: Jews believe that because they disobeyed God, worshiped false idols, and sinned, they were expelled from their homeland, Jerusalem, to wander the earth, creating the Jewish diaspora. Eventually, a Jewish messiah will emerge to take the Jews back to Jerusalem, reconstituting the nation of Israel. He will rebuild Solomon's Temple, because Solomon's Temple is where God lives, and it is where the people of Israel make sacrifices to Yahweh in order to show their devotion to Yahweh. So Solomon's Temple is presented as very important. There will be a war of Gog and Magog, where the entire world unites against Israel. This war will be led by the antichrist, the false prophet. The speakers note that we do not know what God and the God represent. According to the Bible, these are people from the north, but that could mean anyone. Certain Jewish scholars have interpreted Gog and Magog to represent Russia and Iran. This interpretation is highlighted as important because of contemporary events. When it seems as though Israel’s enemies, Gog and Magog, are about to win, God will intervene and ensure that Israel wins. This intervention will usher in the messianic age, in which Israel becomes the most prominent nation on earth, the light of nations, and the light of the world. The overall arc presented is that Jewish eschatology centers on exile due to disobedience, a future messianic return and restoration, the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple, a climactic Gog and Magog conflict led by the antichrist and false prophet, divine intervention guaranteeing Israel’s victory, and the advent of a messianic age with Israel as a guiding global beacon.

Donald Trump believes the American economy is reaching a point of decline, anticipating its fall in the coming months. This decline will lead to the end of dollar hegemony and U.S. hegemony, which the speaker supports.

The United States is in a state of decline, with no clear identity. Monuments are being defaced and destroyed, erasing our heritage. In Germany, Olaf Schulz is using the pretext of preparing for a fight with Russia to suppress opposition within the country. Similar fates await other Western governments, as their populations have had enough and will replace them with new leaders who are not like the current ones.

The speaker claims that Jews are engaged in a mission to annihilate Christianity, inheriting a hatred for Christ from Herod, as expressed in the Talmud. The decline of Christian nations is proportional to Jewish influence. The term "antisemitism" is a Jewish tactic to conceal their role as aggressors, shifting blame onto others. Antagonism towards Jews is found globally, suggesting the cause lies within them. Antisemitism is a natural, self-preservation instinct, not an active prejudice. Jews deserve persecution due to obnoxious traits. The Jewish spirit is revolutionary, concealing their identity and attributes to maintain power. The anti-Semitic charge defends their offensive nature. Jews use money, organizations, and propaganda to build up antisemitism charges. Even conservatives avoid the "Jewish connection." Jesus Christ would be labeled an antisemite today. Concealing Jewish traits conceals the cause of world problems. The conflict stems from diametrically opposed value systems. Jews, as descendants of Esau Edom, hate God's people. Jacob's blessing gave dominion to the white European race, conditional on abiding by God's law. Esau was prophesied to break Jacob's yoke, fulfilled by Jewish control over the white race through socialism, Judaism, and Talmudic ethics. Jewish control of money, banking, and usury leads to economic bondage. The Bank of England and the Federal Reserve System are examples of Jewish financial dominion. Democracy, socialism, and communism are Jewish contrivances. The United Nations is a Jewish plan for world government. Esau's revenge involves war against Jacob, inciting conflicts, and promoting retaliation. Jews foment wars due to their hatred of white people. Abortion and interracial marriage are acts of revenge to destroy the white race. The speaker concludes that Esau Edom is destined for destruction, with Jacob as God's tool of vengeance.

Amalek, a descendant of Asaph, must be totally uprooted and eradicated from the earth. Amalek comes from Asav, the brother of Jacob. Asav, in modern terms, is America. Asav became Edoine, then Rome, and eventually Christianity, which transformed into Western civilization. Therefore, Asav today is Western civilization, including Europe and the United States. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Esau, and we have the audacity to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

Bringing about a nation's collapse can occur through economic ruin or war. Historically, nations like the Babylonians and Persians fell due to conflict, while the Romans fragmented into multiple countries. Today, Europe and the United States face potential turmoil. Rabbis predict that before Moshiach arrives, numerous wars will lead to significant destruction and loss of life, far worse than World War II. Those responsible for the suffering of the Jewish people will face consequences, as Europe has a painful history marked by Jewish bloodshed. Before a new world can emerge, the old one must be dismantled.

Jewish people have allegedly aimed to control the world for thousands of years, according to the speaker. They believe this is supported by a book of God. Another speaker suggests that in Jewish understanding, the term "Edom" refers to Christianity. The first speaker then discusses the fate of non-Jews when the Messiah comes, stating that they will cease to exist as individuals and as a nation. This is referred to as cultural genocide by some.

After Trump, America will face its downfall due to internal and external factors. Internally, there are traitors within the White House, Pentagon, and the government who have weakened the country. These traitors emerged because America turned away from God. Externally, the wrath of God will heavily impact America. The nation's refusal to repent will lead to its inevitable fall. The introduction of human rights by the United Nations has allowed for the erosion of traditional values, such as removing the Bible from schools and promoting LGBT rights. The UN's influence has led to laws forcing churches to marry same-sex couples, with non-compliance resulting in closure and persecution. Kindergartens and primary schools are also being influenced to question children's gender identity, undermining parental rights. Governments are now mere puppets, implementing laws dictated by external forces.

Esau, Edom, Roman Empire, Christian Empire, Christian civilization, USA will face defeat. America's leadership will end, leading to collapse. The West, including Europe and America, is weakening economically. America will not withstand multiple enemies. Hashem will seek vengeance on Edom. Kadosh will destroy Edom. Europe is finished. Ishmael's descendants will cause chaos globally. France and England are in trouble. America's future looks bleak. The world will collapse after America's downfall. God will bury America. Esau and Edom will be completely destroyed.

Speaker 0 explains the distinction between Edom and Amalek. He says Amalek is Germany, and Edom is the grandfather of Amalek. He asks, who is Edom? He states Edom includes most of Europe and includes the United States of America. He describes the Roman Empire as the one that “never was never destroyed,” and asserts that Italy is the seat of the Roman Empire of Edom. Even though Edom is scattered, many other nations today that speak Latin languages, and even America, are part of Edom. He concludes that Edom is everywhere, and the United States of America is also part of Edom. Speaker 1 references Hashem, saying, “This is what Hashem said.” He notes we do not know who Amalek is, and we assume it is the Germans after what they did in the Holocaust, not only to the Jews, but to the whole world. He adds that it is not only the Germans, but most of the European countries, and that is where Amalek is.