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The episode opens with Theo Von celebrating the Saints’ win and riffing on football violence, joking about a hypothetical league with chimpanzees at midfield and recalling a tiny act of real violence—throwing limes from a balcony at a shady van. It’s January 8, Monday, and he moves to Hollywood and the Golden Globes, saying films aren’t as good as they used to be and that money in entertainment can corrupt, turning values into a dark art that climbs from wealth into the heart. He voices a wish for wealth and success, balanced by a fear that the money on the other side of the teeter-totter could lift him off the ground and away from his beliefs. He admires those who give away wealth, like Bill Gates, hoping to fill a “heart balance.” The talk then turns personal. Von discusses fear of commitment and trust, using extended “gravy” metaphors to describe how unfamiliar intimacy feels and how hard it is to dive in. He reflects on dating, staying open, and building a solid foundation before pursuing a deeper relationship, saying he wants to take action and attend meetings. The episode features hotline calls. JP from Alabama encourages taking relationship risks and denies a big danger in trying; Cole, sober a year, asks how to balance recovery with romance; Andrew from Canada describes his overweight wife and his struggle with attraction and pornography; a Cleveland caller jokes about the Browns and sugar-daddy dating; another caller shares a painful high-school virginity story and breakup. There are also riffs on Logan Paul’s forest video, TLC’s 17 Kids controversy, and the notion that when things go real, Hollywood often bails instead of learning. Von signs off by thanking listeners, listing upcoming dates, and urging more calls to 985-664-9503, stressing action, connection, and kindness toward oneself.

Megyn Kelly opens her show discussing the 96th Academy Awards, highlighting the hypocrisy of Hollywood celebrities who preach about morality while engaging in problematic behaviors, such as Jimmy Kimmel's history of blackface. She criticizes Kimmel for hosting the Oscars despite his past, noting that the Academy has long promoted blackface while lecturing about racial equity. Kelly also points out Robert De Niro's harsh criticism of Donald Trump, contrasting it with his willingness to portray morally ambiguous characters in films. Kelly then addresses George Stephanopoulos's interview with Congresswoman Nancy Mace, a rape survivor who supports Trump. She condemns Stephanopoulos for using her trauma to question her political choices, arguing that it exemplifies the media's insensitivity towards victims. Kelly highlights the hypocrisy of the left, which often ignores the complexities of sexual assault allegations against their own political figures while attacking opponents. Andrew Klavan joins Kelly to discuss the Oscars and the media's double standards. They criticize the entertainment industry for its self-congratulatory nature and the lack of genuine humor in awards shows. Klavan emphasizes that Hollywood's obsession with wokeness often leads to absurdities, such as the treatment of serious subjects like the Holocaust in films. The conversation shifts to Kate Middleton, who recently released a manipulated photo of herself and her children, leading to speculation about her health and the palace's transparency. Kelly and Klavan express concern over the royal family's handling of public relations and the implications of their actions. Finally, they discuss the New York Times profile of Kate Winslet, which they find overly flattering and absurd, particularly her claims about holding her breath longer than Navy SEALs. They critique the media's tendency to elevate celebrities while ignoring their flaws, suggesting that Winslet's portrayal may be a performance rather than an authentic representation of her character.

The discussion centers on the concept of privilege, particularly white privilege, and critiques the self-righteousness of Hollywood elites who lecture the public while benefiting from the very systems they criticize. Dave Rubin highlights a video where individuals express guilt over their privilege, which he dismisses as a typical display of "guilty white people." The show features clips from the Golden Globes, including Jim Gaffigan's and Ricky Gervais's comedic critiques of Hollywood's hypocrisy. Gervais's remarks about the industry's moral authority resonate, especially given the lack of political speeches at the recent Golden Globes, suggesting a shift away from overt political correctness. Rubin emphasizes the disconnect between Hollywood's elite and the realities faced by average Americans, particularly regarding immigration and societal issues. He critiques politicians like AOC and Eric Adams for their contradictory stances on immigration, pointing out the chaos in sanctuary cities. The conversation also touches on the decline of traditional media and the rise of alternative platforms where people are increasingly rejecting the narratives pushed by Hollywood and political elites. Rubin concludes with a call for individuals to take personal responsibility and seek truth, rather than relying on government or celebrity figures for guidance.

Theo Von closes a tour announcement with dates for Return of the Rat across January to June, noting added shows as they sell out and offering Rat King pricing before Friday, November 18th, with tickets via theovan.com thereafter. Today's guest is Ari Shaffir, who talks about a long, winding path as a content creator and a renewed focus after burnout. He describes a period so fatigued that he could barely talk, then recovery through peptides, vitamins, and an Ayahuasca retreat, followed by a gradual improvement over weeks. Theo relates his own recent push to take time off and listen to advice from friends who urged rest. They reminisce on early hustle, including jokes about Continental breakfasts and quirky hotel experiences, and pivot to Ari’s latest project, a special titled Jew, released on YouTube. Ari explains the journey: five and a half years in the making, cancellations along the way, and a decision to post on YouTube to retain ownership and avoid Netflix’s producer-credit politics. He shares shooting costs—“a couple hundred grand, about two hundred thirty”—and the editing process after a Paris trip that helped tighten setups and remove repetition. He notes that the project’s tone remains reverent and self‑mocking, and he discusses the risks and realities of making Jewish humor in a climate sensitive to anti‑Semitism. The conversation shifts to how culture treats satire, including a cautionary pancake‑logo incident about a Black‑owned business and a broader discussion of anti‑Semitic narratives, identity and comedy. They reflect on Hollywood’s diversity dynamics, the media’s framing of Trump and Trumpian rhetoric, and how platformed voices sometimes collide with audience expectations, from SNL’s move to keep or replace guests to Elon Musk’s Twitter leadership decisions. Ari shares deep, provocative stories from his experiences at shows, including a memorable orgasm‑meditation workshop and the wild, sometimes risky terrain of comedy and sex. He also riffs on trolling, online persona, and the ethics of pushing boundaries with respect to audiences who push back. He suggests a bold future for creators: a subscription platform where comedians own their content, fund a cooperative slate of specials, and share proceeds more directly than on current ad‑driven models; the math imagines millions of subscribers and substantial payer commitments. They discuss travel, future projects, and a desire to take the podcast on the road—You Be Tripping—testing formats in studios and on location. Ari promotes Jew and invites listeners to watch, donate to support freedom of comedy, and follow touring updates on AriShaffir.com and Ari’s YouTube channel. The conversation blends humor, risk, and the practicalities of building a career in modern comedy.

Theo Von delivers a wandering set of stories, observations, and calls that loop through family memories, food, pop culture, and late reflections on society. He recalls Big Charlie hosting them for Turkish game hen, the pang of poverty beside meals, and childhood impressions of poultry. He riffs on misheard phrases, museum pigeons, and wartime spy birds, then riffs again on polar bears and chocolate, Halloween costumes that morph from Raggedy Ann to Raggedy Andy, and growing up bittersweet. He muses on weather turning crisp and stray animals straggling into towns as winter approaches, longing for a wilder, braver era of animal visitors. He pivots to media and celebrity news, noting Carol Baskin suing Netflix over Tiger King 2 and speculating about rehashed interviews, plus a critique of Colin Kaepernick’s recent storytelling that he finds shallow. He also covers Elon Musk’s ascent past 300 billion and the idea of a billionaire tax, joking that the rich are leaving Earth while others stay to argue with robots and vaccine talk; sponsorship reads for Blue Chew and Mint Mobile punctuate the set, delivered with trademark bluntness about sex, finance, and power. The discussion then shifts to the end of society question and to swipe society. Callers from Australia and across the U.S. weigh in on whether the era is ending or transforming, the role of machines and social media, and whether a coherent fabric can endure destabilizing forces. Personal stories follow: a father’s sudden death and a nineteen year old caller seeking advice on grieving, a Winnipeg mom Jenny being nominated by a listener with a 750 gift, and Theo’s gratitude for listeners who keep showing. He promotes upcoming tour stops, thanks fans, and closes by urging listeners to touch what they can, lean into vulnerability, and seek healing in recovery spaces, ending with a song that captures loneliness and belonging.

The episode opens with Theo Von announcing Jay Mohr’s upcoming dates—Addison Improv this weekend, Houston Improv next weekend, Side Splitters in Tampa after that—and then the conversation zigzags through stories, sports, dogs, and comedy. Mohr relays dog-fighting lore: in places where it’s legal, champions are revered; a dog’s “gameness” determines victory, not mere brute force. They describe the ritual of short bouts, breaks, bets, and a long, grinding dance where the dog that keeps coming out wins. He links this to human perseverance, coaching, and a philosophy shift from “my way or the highway” to embracing connection with athletes. He chats Palisades High’s wrestling program—big rosters, a 12-month grind, and the craft of wrestling as high-speed chess: single leg, double leg, cradle, cradle, cradle, with strategy turning on sensing an opponent’s balance. The talk veers to a Bahamas dolphin encounter that culminates in a shocking moment for Mohr, who recounts being touched inappropriately beneath his life vest by a dolphin, then the awkward aftermath, the free 8x10 photo, and his mom’s Alzheimer’s as a bittersweet image. Norm Macdonald looms large in their talk: favorite stories about his deadpan brilliance, the legendary airplane sketch, and how Norm’s timing could crack a room. They praise Mafia, the Bad Brains documentary, and Norm’s singular voice that reshaped how they think about comedy. Interludes include a candid-holiday ad pitch for clear aligners, a sports-betting plug, and then a brisk, no-nonsense take on China, LeBron, and the NBA’s Beijing fallout. They note the stakes of free speech, retaliation, and global commerce, with a nod to Nixon’s China visit as a frame. The show ends with mutual appreciation, a promise to return, and the sense that true voice and risk fuel comedy, anchored by Nor(m) Macdonald as a throughline.

Dave Rubin discusses the impact of "wokism" on Hollywood, noting that NBC will not air the Golden Globes due to diversity criticisms of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association. He expresses enjoyment in witnessing Hollywood's self-destruction, emphasizing that the push for diversity has led to absurdity. Rubin reflects on the increasing divide between red and blue states, suggesting that this trend could lead to fragmentation similar to the USSR. He believes many people are waking up to the failures of the Democratic Party, particularly regarding identity politics and government overreach. He critiques the current state of higher education, labeling it a "brainwashing institution," and suggests alternative paths for education. Rubin also addresses the situation in Israel, asserting the country's right to defend itself against attacks from Hamas. He concludes by encouraging engagement in local politics and fostering strong communities as a means to counteract the current political climate.

The episode opens with a reckoning on how Hollywood operates, questioning whether industry awards and the publicity machine reflect real merit or serve a political and commercial agenda. The hosts unpack a recent Golden Globes controversy, recounting how nominees are selected and how political considerations may skew the process. The discussion expands into a broader critique of the entertainment world, noting how celebrities and media figures wield influence, and how the industry’s incentives can shape what audiences are offered. The conversation then shifts to politics, with a detailed look at Jasmine Crockett’s Senate bid in Texas, the strategic maneuvering attributed to Republican operatives, and the potential implications of astroturfed support for down-ballot races. The tone remains combative but analytic as the hosts compare campaign tactics across parties, reflect on the role of media in political storytelling, and wonder how such strategies influence public perception and electoral outcomes. In the second hour, the focus pivots to longevity and health optimization with Gary Brecka. He outlines a framework centered on three non-negotiables—sleep, whole-food nutrition, and regular movement—arguing that these basics trump trendy diets and quick-fix supplements. The discussion delves into the concept of genetic methylation testing and how identifying deficiencies can tailor supplementation to individual needs. The guests explore vitamin D3 supplementation, the importance of soil-derived mineral balance, and the idea that many common health issues originate from micronutrient mismatches rather than obvious disease. The interview also covers practical habits, such as daylight exposure, walking with weight for metabolic benefits, and the role of community and purpose in health and longevity. The episode closes with reflections on media polarization, personal integrity in public life, and the value of pursuing authentic, evidence-based approaches to both health and civic life.

Megyn Kelly opens the show discussing the discovery of classified documents from Joe Biden's vice presidency found in a private office in D.C., which the Biden team was aware of since before the midterms but only disclosed recently. She compares this situation to Donald Trump's handling of classified documents, arguing that both cases highlight a double standard in how classified material is treated based on political affiliation. The discussion includes insights from guests Michael Moynihan, Matt Welsh, and Camille Foster, who emphasize the partisanship surrounding these controversies and the need for consistency in handling classified documents. The conversation shifts to the implications of over-classification in the U.S. and the potential for investigations into Biden's documents, drawing parallels to the Trump case. They note that Biden, unlike Trump, cannot declassify documents as a vice president, raising questions about the legality of the documents found. The hosts express skepticism about the Biden team's transparency and speculate on whether the discovery would have been reported had it not been for the Trump situation. The discussion then moves to the broader implications of academic freedom and free speech, particularly in light of a professor at Hamline University who was fired for showing an image of the Prophet Muhammad in an art history class. The professor provided ample warnings to students, yet faced backlash from a single student who claimed to feel disrespected. The hosts critique the university's decision to fire the professor, arguing it reflects a troubling trend of capitulating to a vocal minority and stifling academic discourse. They also touch on the rise of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives in universities, which they argue can lead to a culture of self-censorship and fear among students and faculty. The conversation highlights the importance of maintaining free speech and the dangers of allowing a small group to dictate what can be taught or discussed in educational settings. Finally, the hosts discuss the upcoming Golden Globes, noting the shift towards more woke and politically correct programming in Hollywood. They express skepticism about the effectiveness of these changes and the potential impact on viewership, while also reflecting on the broader cultural implications of these trends in entertainment and society.

Megyn Kelly hosts a discussion that pivots from a high-profile criminal allegation involving an actor-director to controversial media coverage and political controversies rocking the Twin Cities. The episode centers on Timothy Busfield, accused in New Mexico of abuse against two young boys, with a tense focus on the arrest warrant, the defense narrative, and how Warner Brothers allegedly handled the investigation. The conversation with legal guests Mark Geragos and Matt Murphy delves into the reliability of witness statements, the role of corroboration in sex-crime prosecutions, and the strategic choice to pursue or withhold charges when evidence is murky or contested. The guests unpack how competing narratives shape public perception, especially when media outlets and political actors are accused of bias or selective reporting. They scrutinize early hospital interviews, therapist records, and the withholding of investigative materials, arguing that transparency and due process must guide any prosecution. The dialogue also tackles the dynamics of moral signaling in Hollywood and how public figures respond to accusations, with particular attention to Melissa Gilbert’s response and the broader pattern of virtue signaling. The analysts emphasize the dangers of rushing to judgment in high-profile cases, while acknowledging the real harms alleged by the victims and their families. The program transitions to broader coverage of protests and law enforcement conduct in Minnesota, highlighting independent journalists documenting violence and the risks faced by reporters amid contentious demonstrations. The discussion considers the tension between public safety, free speech, and the rhetoric that can incite or deter action from authorities. By weaving in referrals to federal and local investigations, the panel underscores how complex investigations become when cases involve minors, large institutions, and media scrutiny. They also reflect on the media ecosystem’s role in shaping understanding of crime, justice, and accountability, closing with a reminder of the importance of careful, evidence-based reporting and open judicial processes. The episode closes with reflections on the Golden Globes spectacle and the broader culture-war atmosphere surrounding entertainment headlines, including how celebrities engage with abuse conversations, and the cautionary note that a few loud voices should not derail legitimate inquiries or public service in the pursuit of justice. Throughout, the hosts and guests insist on preserving the integrity of legal proceedings, protecting vulnerable witnesses, and separating personal opinion from evidentiary standards in criminal cases.

Judd Apatow reflects on how a life steeped in comedy emerged from early family turmoil and relentless curiosity, tracing the through-line from personal pain to artistic drive. He describes how the trauma of his parents’ divorce shaped not only his worldview but also his early stage energy, and he candidly discusses how obsession, hypervigilance, and a need for control contributed to both professional success and personal strain. The conversation moves from the raw grit of bombing on open-mic nights to the sophisticated craft of writing for others and nurturing a personal voice. Apatow explains that the brutal feedback loop of stand-up—perform in front of live audiences, learn from the worst nights, and iteratively refine material—doesn’t just teach jokes; it builds an ethic of resilience and a sensitivity to human moments that fuel realism in his work. He contrasts stand-up’s live immediacy with film and television’s longer arcs, noting how the former offers instantaneous feedback while the latter tests ideas over years, shaping a different kind of risk-taking and accountability. Throughout, the guest emphasizes the paradox of success: society rewards the most intense manifestations of one’s flaws, yet sustainable collaboration, humility, and trust are the backbone of enduring creativity. He shares how mentorship, particularly his relationship with a legendary writer and producer, provided a counterpoint to the noise of a crowded industry, reinforcing the value of honest notes and the strength found in building a dependable team. Yet he also highlights the pressure of never resting on past work, recognizing that audiences shift and platforms evolve, which makes the journey of creation a perpetual balancing act between novelty and the core truths that connect with people. The discussion culminates in practical wisdom about testing ideas in public, managing performance anxiety, and maintaining humanity in a field where everyone is chasing the next big moment, all while nurturing a communal sense of craft.

The host opens with a rapid-fire, opinionated tour through a cultural moment centered on a high-profile awards show and a controversial figure in American politics. He juxtaposes Hollywood’s public posture with political attacks and media narratives, arguing that elite circles enforce conformity by policing who is allowed to think differently. The discussion then shifts to a public feud between Donald Trump and Trevor Noah, using Trump’s Truth Social post to frame a broader debate about defamation, accountability, and free speech. The host contends that many on the left wield accusations of harm and censorship to suppress dissent, while he insists that free expression must tolerate provocation and satire, even when it comes from powerful institutions. Throughout, he repeatedly contrasts professed tolerance with actual treatment of dissenting voices, suggesting a pattern of double standards where celebrities and media figures call for safety and respect for some while condemning others for similar actions. A long segment is devoted to the legal and ethical dimensions of protest and the FACE Act, integrating a critique of Don Lemon’s actions at a Minnesota church with a broader defense of journalists’ rights. The host argues that actions framed as protecting civil rights can, in some contexts, infringe upon others’ rights, and he emphasizes that the law should apply equally to all participants, regardless of status. He wrestles with questions about when protest crosses the line into obstruction, and whether public figures should be treated differently than ordinary participants. The conversation then widens to the political ecosystem, examining how local officials, media personalities, and corporate power interact with immigration policy, crime, and national identity. He links these threads to a broader claim that immigration, crime, and policy debates are being reframed to safeguard electoral power, urging listeners to scrutinize the incentives behind political messaging and to question the narratives promoted by prominent figures and outlets. Toward the end, the host weaves in external voices and familiar talking points, including remarks by Elon Musk and Senator John Kennedy, to reinforce a view of a polarized, institutionally skewed landscape. He cautions about the erosion of shared facts and the risk of escalating social conflict if critical reasoning is abandoned in favor of loud rhetoric. The program closes on a somber note about the state of public discourse, inviting viewers to consider how to balance passion with accountability in a divisive era, and signaling a continued postgame discussion for subscribers.

The discussion between Jordan Peterson and Rob Schneider centers on the evolution of Hollywood, the impact of political correctness on the entertainment industry, and the importance of free speech. Schneider reflects on how the Academy Awards once celebrated a unified audience but have since shifted to prioritize diversity quotas, which he believes has contributed to the decline of genuine artistic expression. He expresses concern over the erosion of free speech rights, particularly during the pandemic, and highlights the rarity of such rights in history. Schneider describes his journey from a classic liberal to a more conservative viewpoint, emphasizing the need for individualism over group identity. He critiques the postmodernist ideology that dismisses free speech and promotes power dynamics based on identity politics. The conversation touches on the consolidation of power in tech and media, which Schneider argues has stifled dissenting voices. They discuss the role of comedians and entertainers in critiquing societal issues, especially in light of recent political shifts. Schneider shares his experiences advocating for parental rights and vaccine safety, highlighting the challenges faced by those who oppose big pharmaceutical interests. He recounts his collaboration with Robert Kennedy Jr. on these issues, noting the importance of addressing chronic illnesses in children. The hosts also explore the implications of the Democratic Party's current trajectory, suggesting that a reckoning is necessary for them to regain credibility. Schneider believes that the Democratic leadership must undergo significant changes to reconnect with the average American. The conversation concludes with a call for a return to traditional values and a recognition of the importance of free speech as a cornerstone of a healthy society.

Dave Rubin discusses the implications of Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter, highlighting concerns about censorship and the potential for increased free speech. He references a Ricky Gervais clip criticizing Hollywood's hypocrisy regarding China, noting that major companies like Apple prioritize profits over ethical considerations. Rubin emphasizes the contradiction in Tim Cook's praise for China's poverty alleviation while ignoring its environmental issues, such as the rapid expansion of coal plants. He also addresses the political landscape, mentioning the challenges faced by third parties and the need for Republicans to focus on competency rather than revenge politics. Rubin expresses skepticism about the future of Neuralink and discusses the importance of diverse news sources, particularly criticizing mainstream outlets for bias. He concludes with reflections on personal experiences and the dynamics of political commentary, emphasizing the need for honesty and decency in public discourse.

Megyn Kelly opens the show discussing her love for Wednesdays due to school delays, then transitions to current events, including Prince Harry's memoir and the recent Golden Globes. She notes the Globes' low ratings and the controversy surrounding the Hollywood Foreign Press Association's diversity issues. Andrew Klavan joins her to analyze the Globes, highlighting Gerard Carmichael's opening monologue that addressed the organization's past racism and the hiring of a Black host as a means of rehabilitation. They discuss the implications of Hollywood's wokeness on storytelling and box office performance, with Klavan criticizing the industry's focus on identity politics over quality narratives. He argues that Hollywood's attempts to address diversity have led to a decline in storytelling quality and audience engagement. The conversation shifts to the Supreme Court's upcoming decision on affirmative action in college admissions, with Kelly and Klavan expressing concerns about the impact of race-based policies on students' success and the potential for discrimination against Asian applicants. They emphasize the importance of meritocracy in education. Kelly and Klavan also touch on the cultural appropriation debate, particularly regarding Gwen Stefani's comments about her admiration for Japanese culture, which some critics labeled as offensive. Klavan defends cultural appropriation as a positive aspect of American society, arguing that it fosters appreciation and sharing among diverse cultures. The discussion then moves to Ellen DeGeneres's comments on climate change and natural disasters, with Klavan referencing data that contradicts the narrative of increasing climate-related disasters. They criticize the media's tendency to sensationalize climate issues while ignoring positive trends in disaster management. Finally, they address the FAA's recent grounding of flights due to a computer malfunction, attributing the failure to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's oversight. Kelly and Klavan conclude by discussing the media's double standards in covering political figures, particularly in relation to the recent classified documents found in President Biden's possession compared to former President Trump's situation. They express frustration with the media's bias and the implications for public trust.

Megyn Kelly opens the show discussing the political fallout from the recent Oval Office meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky, emphasizing the unexpected twists in reactions, particularly from the left. She transitions to a lighter topic, the Academy Awards, critiquing Hollywood's current state and its adherence to wokeism, highlighting the absence of the biopic on Ronald Reagan from the nominations due to diversity quotas. Kelly invites influencers Lauren Chen and Christian Toto to discuss the Oscars, noting the tension between Oprah Winfrey and Whoopi Goldberg during a tribute to Quincy Jones. They comment on the self-centeredness of celebrities, with Chen criticizing their virtue signaling while ignoring real issues like homelessness. The conversation shifts to Selena Gomez's extravagant appearance at the Oscars, with Toto mocking her claims of solidarity with immigrants despite her wealth. The hosts critique the hypocrisy of celebrities like Julianne Hough, who previously wore blackface but now engages in land acknowledgments, and discuss the provocative outfits worn by attendees, questioning the lack of substance in their presentations. They express disappointment in the Oscars' focus on superficiality rather than meaningful art. The discussion turns to the documentary category, with Kelly criticizing the win for "No Other Land," which presents a one-sided view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, contrasting it with the lack of attention given to anti-Semitism in Hollywood speeches. They lament the industry's failure to address pressing issues and the dilution of important topics into vague statements. Kelly and her guests analyze the recent Trump-Zelensky meeting, arguing that Zelensky's confrontational approach was misguided and likely influenced by Democratic senators who met with him beforehand. They suggest that the Democrats' attempts to frame the meeting as an ambush are disingenuous, as Zelensky's behavior was provocative and disrespectful. Andrew Klavan joins the discussion, asserting that the meeting was a significant moment reflecting the disconnect between Hollywood and the American public. He argues that Trump’s approach to foreign policy, particularly regarding China, is more strategic than the Democrats acknowledge. Klavan emphasizes the need for a shift in how the U.S. engages with global conflicts, advocating for a focus on cutting losses rather than endless military involvement. The conversation concludes with a critique of Andrew Cuomo's potential return to politics, highlighting his controversial past and the lack of support he would face. Kelly and Klavan express skepticism about his chances, suggesting that New Yorkers deserve better leadership.