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John Loftus explains his career: an army officer, a federal prosecutor at the Justice Department, then with the Office of Special Investigations—the Nazi war crimes unit under Carter and Reagan. He reveals discovering that many Nazis assigned to prosecute were already on the government payroll, which led him to become a whistleblower. In 1982 he appeared on an Emmy-winning segment of 60 Minutes with Mike Wallace; his family received death threats, and he later started a private law practice in Boston, focusing on whistleblowers, charging his clients a dollar apiece. He held a Q clearance for nuclear weapons secrets, an SI clearance for wiretapping, and a cosmic clearance for NATO-level top secrets, enabling him to read British, Dutch, and American intelligence files. He was the first person in half a century to access classified vaults in Suitland, Maryland, described as 20 underground security vaults, each one acre, reminiscent of Raiders of the Lost Ark but less organized. He sought evidence not only about Nazi war criminals but also about possible obstruction or fixing of the Nuremberg Trials. His first boss was a prosecutor of the Nuremberg Bankers Trial and suggested that resources were taken from investigations, implying the trials had been fixed. Loftus balanced two roles: investigating Belarusian Nazis who might have immigrated to America and looking for evidence of fixings in the Nuremberg Trials.
Speaker 1 asks what Loftus discovered and why he dedicated forty years to exposing these secrets. Loftus responds that a small corrupt group of American officials collaborated with the British Secret Service to relocate Nazi war criminals to the United States. The British believed these individuals were not real Nazis but anticommunist freedom fighters due to anti-Russian sentiment, and some state department officials accepted this view. Loftus asserts that the British did not realize the Nazis were being moved to the U.S.; the Americans ended up using British networks after World War II, not understanding they were sending ex-Nazi terrorists from Arab states and Eastern Europe to fight in the Cold War. He claims the motive was financial: Alan Dulles was a Wall Street corrupt corporate lawyer who, with others, pursued bankers’ security and profit rather than national security, assisting in arming and supporting a rebel tribe led by Ibn Saud, which formed the House of Sa’ud, and helped install them in power in the 1930s. He states the Wahhabism/Salafism ideology gained legitimacy through oil wealth, with the Dulles-managed arrangements masking Nazi and Bolshevik connections as a matter of business. Loftus contends that the Dulles brothers hid Nazi, Saudi, and Bolshevik links, with the aim of creating new cartels and monopolies. He asserts that the Muslim Brotherhood, led by Hassan al-Banna since 1928, became the Abwehr’s arm in the Middle East, and that the Brotherhood’s expansion to half a million members included Nazi influence; after Nasser's rise in Egypt, the Saudis accepted ex-Nazi educators to teach in madrasas, leading to figures like Osama bin Laden being educated by first-generation Nazis. Loftus maintains that the Brotherhood’s offspring—Al-Qaeda and Hamas—share a philosophy opposing democracy, Western civilization, and Jews, continuing into contemporary conflicts. He concludes that Philby helped the Dulles brothers by introducing the Muslim Brotherhood as a proxy force against communism, leading to ongoing involvement in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 asks for clarity on the Dulles brothers in the twenties, thirties, and forties. Loftus describes the Dulles brothers aiding Wall Street robber barons in moving money abroad to friendly fascists, including the Bolsheviks and German fascists, to restore monopolies. They used Swiss companies and banks to own German bank stock, circumventing Hitler’s ban on foreign ownership of German companies, with Hallmark Schacht as a business associate; he notes that about 70% of money used to rebuild the Third Reich came from Wall Street and the City of London.