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Doctors reportedly risked losing their licenses for prescribing ivermectin. The Federation of State Medical Boards, a private entity in Texas that oversees state medical boards, allegedly sent a directive to state medical boards concerning ivermectin and misinformation, encouraging them to target doctors. Some doctors are reportedly still dealing with medical boards to clear their names. This reportedly occurred in the fall of 2021, when Biden mandated the shots.

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The speaker claims that ivermectin, not the vaccine, saved people from COVID. They criticize the use of ventilators for COVID patients, citing pulmonary edema risks. A nurse's story about a stroke post-vaccination highlights a lack of documentation and discouragement of questions by senior staff. The nurse was reassigned after questioning. Translation: The speaker believes ivermectin, not vaccines, saved people from COVID. They criticize using ventilators for COVID patients due to risks of pulmonary edema. A nurse's experience with a stroke post-vaccination reveals a lack of documentation and discouragement of questions by senior staff. The nurse was reassigned after asking questions.

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It is nearly impossible to publish data that goes against the national public health narrative, preventing doctors from finding solutions. The speaker has conducted clinical trials for pharmaceutical companies, including vaccine studies, and has brought vaccines and other drugs to market. Some drugs never made it to market because they killed people. Clinical trial guidelines ensure safe drugs, but these guidelines were not followed during the pandemic, affecting everyone. COVID should have been a time for doctors to unite, but interference with research occurred. Science evolves through experiments, skepticism, and an open mind. Challenging current knowledge must be allowed to move science forward, but what the speaker witnessed during the pandemic was not science.

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Speaker 0: They think I'm dangerous for speaking the truth. Speaker 1: Dr. Stella Emmanuel was part of a video claiming, without evidence, that hydroxychloroquine is a cure for COVID-19. The video was taken down by social media platforms for spreading misinformation. Despite the backlash, Dr. Emmanuel insists that hydroxychloroquine could be part of a cure. Dr. Anthony Fauci disagrees, stating that scientific data consistently shows hydroxychloroquine is not effective in treating COVID-19.

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Dr. Paul Oosterhuis, the first doctor to be suspended by APRA, shares his story of fighting against suspension due to his criticism of COVID policies. He expressed concerns about the harm caused by lockdowns and mandates and advocated for early treatments. Dr. Oosterhuis was suspended after tweeting about the low risk of COVID-related deaths in children receiving the experimental gene jab. Despite representing himself in court, he sued the Medical Council of New South Wales and eventually had his suspension lifted. Dr. Oosterhuis emphasizes the need for a precedent to protect other doctors and discusses his passion for anesthesia and making a difference in people's lives. A more in-depth discussion is planned for the future.

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According to the speaker, the person who reported them in Zimbabwe worked for the Wellcome Trust and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. The speaker believes forces above governments are at play, influencing doctors who think they are doing the right thing, and that the media is heavily censored, preventing the public from accessing information. The speaker feels that they have been neutered and that medical registrars can now erase doctors for saying or doing the wrong thing. They are not optimistic about finding new regulatory bodies, believing the opposition is too powerful. The speaker anticipates doctors being replaced by AI and patients losing trust in the medical profession. They stated that a combination of silver, Ivermectin, doxycycline, and zinc was effective, and that adding Ivermectin stopped people from dying.

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I'm Karen DeVore, a dermatologist in South Carolina. I've been prescribing hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin for over 30 years, off-label. In 2020, the FDA called Ivermectin horse medicine and doctors couldn't prescribe it. I knew these drugs were safe and effective, and I saw great results in my patients. None of the patients I treated with these drugs were hospitalized or died from COVID. They had no side effects and felt better within hours. It's frustrating that insurance companies and pharmacies denied access to these drugs. Even terminally ill patients on ventilators couldn't try them. How many lives could have been saved?

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In this video, the speakers delve into the controversy surrounding the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin as treatments for COVID-19. They express frustration with the restrictions placed on these medications and emphasize the importance of doctors' involvement in patient care. The speakers highlight their own positive experiences with these treatments and criticize the politicization of medical decisions. They also discuss conflicting scientific studies and the influence of pharmaceutical companies. Additionally, the conversation touches on the use of fluvoxamine and the challenges faced by the speakers within their institution, leading to their departure. Overall, the video emphasizes the need for a balanced and evidence-based approach to medical treatments.

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"Your government doesn't censor those people as a way to do the best that it can." The speaker recalls being interviewed by a major newspaper and "I bring up doctor Peter McCullough every time" when asked "what evidence? What proof?" They argue that "the world's leading heart doctor" and "the most published heart doctor in the world was censored during COVID." They question whether "the government was just doing the best that it could under the circumstances," answering "Like, no." The speaker asserts that "The best a government that considers itself to be in a free nation does not go out of its way to censor world renowned scientists, doctors, the number one heart doctor in the world in doctor Peter McCullough, the most published ICU doctor the world in doctor Paul Merrick, the inventor of the technology itself, doctor Robert Malone." "Your government doesn't censor those people as a way to do the best that it can."

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I lost everything for not taking the vaccine. The lockdown made me question the situation, feeling it was all suspicious. I couldn't work due to vaccine mandates. My dying mom couldn't go to the hospital because they wanted to vaccinate her. I became her caregiver until she passed away. I urge people to push back against the World Health Organization treaty for global health.

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The FDA was sued over tweets telling people "you're not a horse" regarding Ivermectin. The lawsuit argued the FDA doesn't have the authority to tell people not to take a certain drug, as that constitutes practicing medicine. Some believe the FDA's actions were a coordinated PR attack to promote COVID vaccines. One doctor claims the government's agenda was to force vaccines, which are now known to be "poison jabs." The case against the FDA was settled largely on the plaintiffs' terms, with the FDA taking down the "offensive tweets." One doctor claims to have treated over 6,000 COVID patients with Ivermectin, with none hospitalized as a result, and considers it safer than common medications. The lawsuit set a precedent, potentially tarnishing the FDA's reputation and limiting future overreach in advising patients on medical treatments. Some believe the suppression of early COVID treatments has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths and that the COVID vaccines have caused excess deaths and increased disability.

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Ivermectin is a widely used and safe drug that has been effective against SARS CoV 2. It could have saved many lives if it had been used more widely. Doctors who tried to use it faced prosecution, despite its safety and effectiveness. One doctor worked 715 continuous days without a day off because no one else wanted to care for indigent patients. The doctor's hospital had a low mortality rate compared to the rest of the country, thanks to protocols that included Ivermectin. However, the media ignored their success and the use of repurposed drugs. The doctor faced censorship on social media platforms for mentioning Ivermectin. The FDA claims there are no adequate alternatives to the vaccines, but many believe unnecessary deaths occurred due to censorship and lack of access to Ivermectin.

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No. There's a lot of doctors that I know that were in danger of losing their license because they had prescribed ivermectin. And that was another thing. You know, the the Federation of State Medical Boards, is this private entity, they're actually located in Texas, who oversees all the state medical boards. They sent out a directive to all the state medical boards concerning ivermectin, concerning misinformation, and basically encouraging the medical boards to go after doctors like myself. And, I mean, I'm still I'm still tangled up with the medical board trying to clear my name. But they did that. That was it all happened in that 2021. Right when Biden mandated the shots, They really came down hard on the doctors.

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In 2020, during the peak of COVID, a licensed practical nurse recalls being instructed not to give COVID patients Ibuprofen, only Tylenol. She questions this decision, as Ibuprofen is a blood thinner that could have potentially prevented blood clots, a common complication in COVID patients. Despite not being a registered nurse or doctor, she questions the logic behind this protocol and seeks validation from others in the medical field who may have experienced the same situation.

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Laura Logan hosts a discussion with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on vaccines, public health policy, and what they see as failures and harms within the system. The conversation weaves together personal history, policy details, scientific debates, and broader social concerns, intercut with promotional content for GiveSendGo. Key points and claims raised by Dr. Tenpenny - Vaccine ingredients and aluminum exposure: Tenpenny asserts that if someone receives every vaccine on the schedule, they would be injected with a total of about twelve thousand micrograms of aluminum, which she says is inflammatory to every organ system and can be stored in bones (60% of aluminum exposure). She notes aluminum is present in vaccines in order to replace mercury, which she describes as also a poison. - Early vaccine industry liability and the 1986 Act: The discussion explains that prior to 1986 there were liability concerns for vaccine makers due to injury lawsuits. Tenpenny recounts that in 1986 Congress passed a law giving the pharmaceutical industry liability immunity for vaccines, creating what she describes as a ramp in the vaccine schedule. She cites that by 1991 additional vaccines were introduced (Hep B at birth, Hib, chickenpox, Prevnar, Gardasil, Hep A, and more) and alleges this resulted in a rising autism incidence aligned with new vaccines. - The vaccine injury system: Tenpenny explains the Injury Compensation Act and the existence of VAERS as a tracking system, along with a separate pathway created under the PREP Act (the Preparedness and Readiness Act). She states that during the COVID era a separate program, the Covered Countermeasure Program (CICP), existed under the PREP Act, but it had no funding and a one-year statute of limitations, leading to under-compensation and very few adjudicated cases; she contrasts this with the earlier 1986 act, which funded vaccine injury compensation through the Federal Court of Claims and VAERS. - Perceived safety and effectiveness concerns: The speakers discuss studies suggesting that the flu shot might not prevent flu and that some studies indicate vaccines including pneumonia vaccines may be associated with higher risk of the conditions they aim to prevent. Tenpenny frames this as evidence of cracks in the vaccine program and argues that vaccines are linked to a broad spectrum of health issues, including autoimmune diseases, infertility, and cancers, which she says have been increasing. - Pediatric vaccination schedule and “pediatric poisoning program”: Tenpenny asserts that infants receive multiple injections early in life, with claims that by age two they will have thousands of micrograms of aluminum and other compounds that remain in the body, including in the brain. She characterizes the pediatric schedule as a systematic poisoning program for children and a parallel “adult assault program” for adults receiving vaccines. - COVID-19 vaccine controversy and health impacts: The conversation covers the COVID vaccines, including assertions about adverse effects such as myocarditis, strokes, kidney injury, autoimmune diseases, neurological issues, and cancers. Tenpenny describes long-term concerns (long COVID, autoimmune diseases) and claims of widespread injury and death, contending that the pandemic revealed how the health-care and pharmaceutical systems operate, including alleged corruption and profit motives. She discusses the difficult experiences of families during the pandemic, including restrictions on care and the use of alternate treatments like ivermectin in some cases. - The claim that COVID vaccines were not properly evaluated and that mandated vaccination reflected coercion: The speakers discuss mandates and the experiences of individuals in workplaces and educational institutions who faced pressure to receive vaccines, including religious exemptions and disputes about mandates. Tenpenny suggests a broader pattern of overreach in public health policy and questions about the balance between individual rights and mandates. - History and philosophy of public health programs: They discuss the Healthy People initiatives, arguing that the program’s goals have expanded in scope (from 15 goals to 1,200 for Healthy People 2030) and that the expansion is associated with greater surveillance and control over personal lives. Tenpenny claims that this is part of a broader trend toward data collection and governance of individual health and behavior. - The economics and incentives around vaccines: The conversation notes how physicians are compensated in part through vaccine administration, implying financial incentives influence clinical decisions. Tenpenny emphasizes the profit motive behind vaccines and the pharmaceutical industry’s financial interests, citing extreme examples like the one boy in a photo who allegedly became heavily medicated due to vaccines. - The role of media and information control: They discuss the influence of advertising in media since the 1990s and the difficulty of reporting critically on vaccines when major advertisers are pharmaceutical companies. They also mention AI and misinformation concerns, including examples of AI fabricating sources and the need to verify information. - Personal stakes, accountability, and political possibilities: Tenpenny discusses personal cost for challenging the vaccine paradigm, including an earlier period of potential licensing scrutiny and professional pushback. She names figures such as Fauci and Birx, argues that accountability has not yet occurred, and expresses hope that public interest in accountability could shift through advocacy and political leadership, citing RFK Jr. as a potential ally though acknowledging political and institutional obstacles. - Treatment and detoxification approaches: For those who have already received vaccines, Tenpenny outlines two separate tracks: detoxification for childhood vaccines and detox for COVID vaccines. For detox, she mentions products such as PureBody Extra (PBX), a zeolite-based supplement she says helps remove metals like aluminum and mercury from the body. She notes it is usable across age groups and even for pets, and she personally uses it. She also discusses non-specific detox approaches such as vitamin D optimization, lymphatic stimulation, exercise, and a diet focusing on avoiding white foods and reducing inflammation. She cautions that there is no proven blood or urine test to quantify spike protein after a COVID vaccine, and that detox strategies aim to support overall health rather than remove embedded spike protein from tissues. - The role of faith and resilience: The interview includes discussions of faith as a guiding force for Tenpenny, including her personal journey toward Christian faith in 2020. They reflect on fear, hope, forgiveness, and the idea that one can act with integrity and do the right thing even when faced with controversy or personal cost. They discuss existential questions about meaning, purpose, and moral responsibility, including the belief that life has a spiritual dimension that informs how to respond to public-health challenges. - Community and parenting: The conversation emphasizes the importance of community networks for new parents, including seeking mentorship from experienced parents and trusted health advocates, and maintaining parental agency in decisions about vaccines, medical interventions, and child-rearing. They discuss the value of critical thinking, asking questions, and avoiding blind trust in professionals or institutions. - Closing notes and resources: Tenpenny provides her websites and a Substack for ongoing information, including dr10penny.com, dr10penny.substack.com, and 10pennywalkwithgod.substack.com, as well as her X profile busy doctor t. The episode closes with a call to viewers to stay informed and to seek second opinions, while thanking the audience for supporting independent journalism. Overall, the dialogue centers on a critical, conspiratorial framing of vaccines, public-health policy, and the medical establishment; it weaves together testimonies about personal experience, policy history (notably the 1986 Act and the PREP Act), alleged systemic failures in compensation for vaccine injuries, criticisms of COVID-19 responses and vaccine mandates, and practical detoxification and faith-based guidance. The promotional content for GiveSendGo lightly interrupts the core discussion, but the majority of the exchange remains an extended argument about vaccine safety, accountability, and the perceived influence of big pharma on health care and public policy.

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Dr. Kavinder Kargil, a practicing physician in Ontario, faced backlash and persecution for advocating against lockdowns and sharing scientific information about immunity during the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite being a respected doctor and leader in the medical community, she was labeled as an anti-vaxxer and faced numerous complaints to her professional regulator. The Canadian press published hit pieces on her, further damaging her reputation. Dr. Kargil filed a defamation lawsuit to clear her name but was ordered to pay $1.2 million in legal costs. She is now facing a deadline to pay nearly $300,000 and may have to declare bankruptcy. A public campaign has been started to help offset her legal costs.

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- The discussion opens with a critique of how public health authorities in the United States and much of the media discouraged experimentation with COVID-19 treatments, instead pushing vaccination and portraying other approaches as dangerous. The hosts ask why treatments were sidelined and treated as heretical to question. - Speaker 1 explains that the core idea was to stamp out “vaccine hesitation,” which he frames not as a purely scientific issue but as a form of heresy. He notes a broad literature on vaccine hesitancy and contrasts it with the perception of the vaccine as a liberating savior. He points to a Vatican €20 silver coin (2022) commemorating the COVID-19 vaccine, described by Vatican catalogs as “a boy prepares to receive the Eucharist,” which the speakers interpret as an overlay of religious iconography with vaccination imagery. They also reference Diego Rivera’s mural in Detroit, interpreted as depicting the vaccine as a Eucharist, and a South African church banner reading “even the blood of Christ cannot protect you, get vaccinated,” highlighting what they see as provocative uses of religious symbolism to promote vaccination. - They claim that the Biden administration’s COVID Vaccine Corps distributed billions of dollars to major sports leagues (NFL, MLB) and that many mainline churches reportedly received money to push vaccination, with many clergy not opposing the push. The implication is that monetary incentives influenced public figures and organizations to advocate for vaccines, contributing to a climate in which questioning orthodoxy was difficult. - The speakers discuss the social dynamics around vaccine “heresy,” using Aaron Rodgers’ experience with isolation and shaming in the NFL and Novak Djokovic’s experiences in Australia to illustrate how prominent individuals who questioned or fell outside the orthodoxy faced punitive pressure. They compare this to a Reformation-era conflict over doctrinal correctness and describe a psychology of stigmatizing dissent as a tool to enforce conformity. - They argue the imperative driving institutions was the belief that the vaccine was the central, non-negotiable public-health objective, seemingly above other medical considerations. The central question they raise is why vaccines became the sole priority, seemingly overriding a broader, more nuanced evaluation of medical options and individual risk. - The conversation shifts to epistemology and the nature of science. Speaker 1 suggests medicine often relies on orthodoxies and presuppositions, rather than purely empirical processes. He recounts a Kantian view that interpretation depends on preexisting categories, and he uses this to argue that medical decision-making can be constrained by established doctrines, which may obscure questions about optimization and safety. - They recount the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and discuss Sara Sotomayor’s dissent, which argued that liability exposure is a key incentive for safety and improvement in vaccine development. They argue that the current system creates minimal liability for manufacturers, reducing the incentive to optimize safety, and they use this to question how the system encourages continuous safety improvements. - The hosts recount the early-treatment movement led by Peter McCullough and others, including a Senate hearing organized by Ron Johnson in November 2020 to discuss early-treatment options with FDA-approved drugs like hydroxychloroquine. They criticize what they describe as aggressive pushback against such approaches, noting that McCullough faced professional sanctions and lawsuits despite presenting peer-reviewed literature. - They return to the concept of orthodoxy and dogma, arguing that the medical establishment often suppresses dissent, citing YouTube removing a McCullough interview and the broader pattern of silencing challenge to the vaccine narrative. They stress that the social and institutional systems prize conformity and punish those who deviate, creating a climate of distrust toward official health bodies. - The discussion broadens into metaphysical and philosophical territory, with references to the Grand Inquisitor from Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov. They propose that elites—whether religious, political, or scientific—tend to prefer “taking care” of people through control rather than preserving individual responsibility and free will. The Grand Inquisitor tale is used to illustrate a recurring human temptation: to replace personal liberty with a protected, paternalistic order. - They discuss messenger RNA (mRNA) technology as a central manifestation of Promethean or Luciferian intellect—humans attempting to “read and write in the language of God.” They describe the scientific arc from transcription and translation to mRNA vaccines, noting Francis Collins’s The Language of God and the idea of humans “coding life.” They caution that mRNA vaccines involve injecting genetic material and point to the symbolic and ritual power of vaccination as a form of modern sacrament. - The speakers emphasize that the mRNA approach represents both a profound scientific achievement and a source of deep concern. They discuss fertility signals and potential adverse effects, including myocarditis in young people, and cite the July 2021 NEJM case study as highlighting safety concerns for myocarditis in adolescent males. They reference the FDA deliberative-committee discussions, noting that some influential voices publicly questioned the risk-benefit calculus for young people, yet faced pressure or dismissal within the orthodox framework. - They describe post-hoc investigations and testimonies suggesting that adverse events (like myocarditis) might have been downplayed or obscured, and they assert that public trust in health institutions has eroded as a result. They mention ongoing debates about whether vaccine-induced changes might affect future generations, referencing studies about transcripts of mRNA in cancer cells and liver cells, and they stress the need for independent scrutiny by scientists not “entranced” by the vaccine program. - The dialogue returns to the broader human condition: a tension between curiosity and restraint, knowledge and humility. They return to Dostoevsky’s moral questions about free will, responsibility, and the limits of human knowledge, concluding that scientific hubris can lead to dangerous consequences when it overrides open inquiry and accountability. - In closing, while the guests reflect on past missteps and the need for integrity in medicine, they underscore the ongoing questions about how evidence is interpreted, how dissent is treated, and how society balances scientific progress with humility, transparency, and respect for individual judgment.

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Speaker 0, an ER physician with twenty-five years of experience and a lawyer, recounts a pivotal moment in April 2020. California doctors received a letter stating that if they prescribed hydroxychloroquine, they could lose their medical licenses. He emphasizes that, as a physician and attorney, you cannot tell a doctor they cannot prescribe an FDA-approved medication, noting that this is not a permissible category of action. The letter horrified him, and he was stunned by the idea of government involvement in medical prescribing. To gauge the reaction, he asked his peers what they thought about the letter, but they largely shrugged. This lack of widespread concern among colleagues contrasted with his own reaction and intensified his alarm. He describes this experience as the moment it activated him to go public. Before that moment, he focused on individual patient care, but the letter prompted a broader sense of urgency. Ultimately, he states that this experience woke him up and made him very scared for America. The core points are the content of the letter and its implications for medical practice, his professional background informing his response, the skeptical reaction of peers, and the personal turning point that led him to go public.

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In the discussion, Speaker 0 argues that word-of-mouth PR surrounding ivermectin “saved so many lives” and created widespread distrust in the industry, describing a shift where people questioned official stances: “My oxygen was low, and I did take ivermectin and it did work. Why are they telling me ivermectin doesn't work?” This view frames ivermectin as having proven effectiveness in practice, contrasting with public or institutional statements. Speaker 1 adds that it’s “really hard not to get angry” about the official trials, claiming that the WHO and, specifically, the Oxford trials demonstrated that ivermectin didn’t work, but that it “patently does.” They describe the fundamental problem as the way those trials were conducted, implying methodological issues. They discuss specifics of how the studies tested different drugs: Speaker 0 notes that hydroxychloroquine was given “with food” in the study, while ivermectin was given on an empty stomach, implying a potential misapplication of administration guidelines. They state that Merck’s initial labeling for ivermectin in other indications (scabies and lice) recommends administration with a fatty meal, and share a personal anecdote that their sister introduced ivermectin to the market for lice and conducted a clinical trial with many patients. Speaker 1 questions why leading clinicians would administer these drugs without knowing the correct guidelines, suggesting there should have been knowledge about administration with meals for hydroxychloroquine and with food for ivermectin. They remark, “Why the heck didn’t they know that?” Speaker 0 contends that physicians adhere to guidelines and hospital rules and fear lawsuits; they claim this fear leads to doctors “not even wanna know” certain information. They express the sentiment that the medical community was discouraged or constrained by fear of legal consequences and licensing actions, which contributed to doctors avoiding or stopping certain lines of inquiry or treatment. Overall, the dialogue centers on a perceived discrepancy between real-world outcomes of ivermectin use and official trial conclusions, the role of administration guidelines in trial results, and the influence of fear of legal ramifications on clinical practice.

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A doctor recounts moving breathing treatments from their office to patients' cars due to concerns about virus spread, despite hospitals also avoiding them for the same reason. They mention Dr. Richard Bartlett, a Texas doctor who faced criticism for advocating budesonide breathing treatments early in the pandemic. The speaker claims Dr. Bartlett was smeared and pursued by the Texas Medical Board for allegedly making false claims. However, the speaker maintains that these treatments were invaluable and recommended them to high-risk patients, noting a very low risk of issues.

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A physician recounts being attacked for offering alternative COVID treatments and questioning vaccine efficacy. Despite treating thousands of patients and being proven more accurate than public health authorities, she is still fighting to keep her medical license. The physician describes treating a sheriff's deputy with COVID in February, following the vaccine rollout, when ivermectin was difficult to obtain. She notes primary care doctors often did not treat viruses, leading to catastrophic outcomes. After President Trump touted hydroxychloroquine, the Texas State Board of Pharmacy restricted its prescription. The government then launched a PR campaign against ivermectin, influencing hospitals to mandate vaccines. The physician observed more vaccinated individuals contracting COVID with similar or worse symptoms. Monoclonal antibodies, which worked effectively, were removed as an option, allegedly to promote vaccination. A urology department considered refusing unvaccinated patients. The physician faced obstacles in obtaining emergency privileges to administer ivermectin to the sheriff's deputy, who ultimately survived but suffered long-term health issues and later passed away. The Texas Medical Board is pursuing charges against the physician for recommending COVID therapy. The expert witness against her is a Planned Parenthood lab director. She highlights the politicization of medicine, the loss of power for doctors, and the influence of corporations and insurance companies. She expresses concern over COVID shot injuries, the shots being added to the childhood vaccine schedule, and the potential for long-term immune system damage.

Keeping It Real

Dr. Hazan on Ivermectin, COVID, and MRNA Vaccines.
Guests: Sabine Hazan
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In Keeping It Real, Jillian Michaels hosts Dr. Sabine Hazan, a gastroenterologist who has spent three decades in clinical trials and microbiome research. Hazan describes how her lab shifted focus during the pandemic to study the gut microbiome’s role in COVID-19, including attempts to detect the virus in stool and to understand how microbial balance might influence disease severity. She explains writing 57 research protocols and building standardized methods for sample collection and analysis, likening protocols to screenplays that guide experiments from stool collection to data interpretation. Hazan argues that the microbiome not only reflects health but can shape immune responses, potentially affecting asymptomatic cases and vulnerability to infection. Hazan recounts the suppression she perceives around certain treatments and findings, such as vitamin C and vitamin D protocols, hydroxychloroquine early in the crisis, and especially ivermectin. She describes censorship on social media and hesitation from institutions, arguing that political polarization interfered with scientific discourse and patient care. The discussion moves to her ivermectin work, including a personal clinical pivot from hydroxychloroquine to ivermectin and doxycycline, observations about how gut bacteria like Bifidobacteria relate to COVID outcomes, and hypotheses about how the gut-lung axis might mediate inflammation and recovery. She details a controversial arc of hypothesis, retraction, and subsequent data, contending that journals and researchers are influenced by broader forces, while insisting that listening to patients and pursuing open inquiry are essential to medical progress. The conversation then broadens to vaccines, adverse events, and the idea that mRNA technologies require careful, independent scrutiny. Hazan discusses observing changes in patients’ microbiomes after vaccination, concerns about persistent effects on beneficial microbes, and the need for transparent reporting of adverse events. She advocates for independent, nonprofit scientific work and emphasizes collaborative, global learning about the microbiome’s diversity. The episode closes with Hazan’s call for humility in medicine, a push for open dialogue, and a vision of a microbiome-informed future where different cultures’ microbial ecosystems enrich our understanding of health rather than divide it.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #2335 - Dr. Mary Talley Bowden
Guests: Dr. Mary Talley Bowden
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Joe Rogan and Dr. Mary Talley Bowden discuss her experiences and insights regarding COVID-19, vaccines, and the medical establishment. Dr. Bowden expresses her frustration with the handling of the pandemic, particularly the promotion of vaccines for pregnant women and children, arguing that the risks outweigh the benefits. She emphasizes the importance of early treatment for COVID and shares her success with monoclonal antibodies and ivermectin, which she believes were effective in treating patients. Dr. Bowden recounts her journey as a physician, including her return to practice just before the pandemic and her subsequent challenges with the medical community. She highlights the lack of accountability and transparency in the pharmaceutical industry and the medical establishment, criticizing the rigid adherence to protocols that she believes led to unnecessary suffering and death among patients. The conversation touches on the political implications of the pandemic response, with Dr. Bowden advocating for more open discussions about vaccine safety and efficacy. She mentions her involvement in legal battles against misinformation and the medical board's actions against her for promoting alternative treatments. They also discuss the broader implications of the pandemic on trust in healthcare, the rise of chronic diseases, and the societal pressures surrounding health and wellness. Dr. Bowden expresses hope for change and the need for a more honest dialogue about health, emphasizing the importance of individual experiences and clinical observations over rigid adherence to flawed studies. Throughout the discussion, both Rogan and Dr. Bowden reflect on the challenges of navigating a complex healthcare landscape influenced by money, politics, and misinformation, ultimately calling for a return to patient-centered care and the need for medical professionals to speak out against harmful practices.

Tucker Carlson

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden: How Vaccines Got Politicized and the Medical Industry Lost All Credibility
Guests: Dr. Mary Talley Bowden
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Tucker Carlson interviews Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, a Texas physician who treated COVID patients and faced backlash for questioning government-recommended therapies and vaccines. Initially skeptical of the vaccines, Dr. Bowden observed that they were not effective, leading her to explore alternative treatments like ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies. Despite her efforts to provide care, she faced professional repercussions, including threats to her medical license from the Texas Medical Board. Dr. Bowden recounts a case involving a sheriff's deputy who contracted COVID and was denied ivermectin, leading to a legal battle for emergency treatment. She highlights a pattern where primary care physicians were reluctant to treat COVID patients early due to a dogma against treating viral infections. Dr. Bowden argues that this approach resulted in preventable deaths and severe complications. She discusses the politicization of medicine, noting that many doctors are now employed by hospitals or corporations, limiting their independence. Dr. Bowden expresses concern over the ongoing administration of COVID vaccines, particularly to children, citing high rates of adverse events reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). She criticizes the lack of accountability for vaccine manufacturers and the government's failure to address the injuries caused by the vaccines. Throughout the conversation, Dr. Bowden emphasizes the need for transparency in medical data and the importance of empowering patients to make informed health decisions. She reflects on her journey from a non-political physician to an advocate for patient rights and safety, expressing hope for future changes in the healthcare system. Dr. Bowden plans to continue speaking out and may pursue a podcast to further share her experiences and insights.

Keeping It Real

THE DR. WHO REFUSED TO KNEEL - MANDATES, CENSORSHIP, & CORRUPTION
Guests: Mary Talley Bowden
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Dr. Bowden recounts a career trajectory from academic settings to direct patient care, describing a shift in medicine toward centralized systems and outside influence from third parties. She explains choosing a cash-only, independent practice to serve her patients on her own terms, but notes that this independence made her a target for professional and public censure during the pandemic era. The conversation delves into her evolving views on vaccines, including a stark reversal from pre-COVID attitudes to concerns about safety standards, trial designs, and long-term effects. She cites anecdotal cases of prolonged symptoms and adverse events she associates with vaccination, contrasts those with the absence of robust testing to confirm causality, and asserts that spike protein dynamics could contribute to ongoing issues. The dialogue covers diagnostic challenges in medicine, the limitations of relying on tests over patient history, and the importance of clinicians listening to patients who report injuries or changes after vaccination. The discussion expands into the information ecosystem surrounding the pandemic, detailing allegations of coordinated messaging, suppression of alternative viewpoints, and the strategic use of media and policy to shape public perception. Bowden describes her own professional discipline and personal risk, including board investigations, public shaming, and legal threats, as part of a broader pattern she views as constraining physicians who question prevailing narratives. The guests explore accountability mechanisms, highlighting whistleblower cases and VAERS reporting as avenues for potential reform, while acknowledging the patchy nature of reimbursement and support for vaccine-injury claims. They also touch on practical considerations for individuals seeking care, emphasizing prevention, weight management, sleep, and vitamin D, alongside a cautious openness to treatments like ivermectin when guided by experienced clinicians. The conversation closes with reflections on trust, media literacy, and how listeners can engage with doctors who practice evidence-informed care while navigating a landscape of competing information and political energy.
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