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Speaker 0 recounts being told at synagogue while offline that Candice is really going after him, and that heads-up sealed him a little. When he finally turned the phone on, he truly saw all the notifications. He was up until 3AM local time that night dealing with all the messages and emails. It’s not fun. He says, to an extent, it’s part of the nature of the business—when you put yourself out there, you’re going to get pushback. But this is not pushback. This is not someone responding to a legal theory of mine or making an intelligent point about the two-state solution or not two-state solution. No. This is literally just picking a Jewish person and calling him subhuman filth and sinking your band of millions and millions of neo Nazi zealots on a Jewish person who happens to be a husband and father to a young child. So, he says, it’s just awful, awful stuff. And he adds that he’s talking to lawyers. “Aaron, I think I’ve said this publicly already.” He’s a lawyer with his background, he clerked for a federal appeals judge, and he knows a thing or two about United States constitutional law. He thinks that there is a potentially serious case here for defamation, and he is very much speaking with lawyers, and we’ll see what happens.

Hi. I'm Rachel, and my name is currently first on a website claiming to expose Charlie Kirk's murderers. In the last two days I've been getting messages nonstop, claiming to know where I live and saying they're coming for me. I said I was terrified to think of how far right fans of Kirk aching for more violence could turn this into a radicalizing moment. That analysis came from the fact that I am an experienced journalist who has extensively covered right wing extremism. That's also why, by the way, a lot of people hate me and wanna shut me up. And suddenly, I was, like, the face of people Charlie Kirk's murder, even though that literally never happened. And for what? They're just proving me right. I just really hope no one makes good on these threats because I now have to live as if they might.

An individual confronts another, calling them a "coward baby killer" and "scum of the earth," accusing them of killing babies and being a "five g Jew." They demand the person leave the country and go back to Israel, claiming they are trying to subjugate the government. The speaker accuses the other of being happy about bombing people and spreading dangerous propaganda, leading to events like what happened in Washington DC. They assert the person doesn't deserve a place on the planet and calls them a "satanic demon." The other individual is asked for their name, eventually revealing it to be Zori Shields. The speaker expresses pride in wanting to get "scum" like Zori out of the country, labeling them a "vile child killing demon."

"BB's holding it up like Charlie just in May said, hey, you know what? I just want to write a love letter to Israel." "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." "But my moral character is now being put into question, Megan." "But no. I am a bad person if I do this." "Thousands of tweets and text messages." "the people that are attacking me are in a hyperparanoid state because they're at war, and war tends to make things black and white, and you're a hammer looking for a nail." "What would it be like if all of a sudden I'm starting to see a pattern of behavior similar to what my grandparents saw in nineteen thirties Germany online? How would I behave?" "Tucker Carlson was really the focus when it came to America Fest."

"Some of the Internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder." "That's insane." "Israel also changes the orbit of the moon; Israel pushes the sun." "When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors." "They're willing to kill us all the time." "We were poisoning the wells, we were drinking the blood of Christian children." "The Nazis said the same thing. You know, we're carrying vermin, we're spreading disease, and people believed it." "Well, since then, we've learned, when people spread these lies about us, prepare yourself for the assault." "Charlie Kirk said to me that he wrote me this detailed letter, you have to fight the slander. These untruths, these vilifications have consequences. And he was right." "He was going to win. That's why they shot him."

Speaker questions the FBI and media’s suggestion that 'this Tyler was some type of trans kid, lone shooter on a roof.' They claim they could give '150,000 reasons why Israel would benefit from Charlie Kirk being assassinated' and that 'the government in Israel ... would have fallen' if Kirk continued speaking. They say they can't give 'one reason why Tyler would' do it, even if he had a trans boyfriend. They reference 'Raw Alerts' and claim 'the dude running the Raw Alerts page is wearing a doggy mask and diapers and into trans fetish crap' and that he’s 'on our side fighting to expose corruption.' They argue the shooter 'didn't seem radicalized' with no posts on social media, asking what radicalized trans person do you know that didn't leave a memoir. They declare, 'this demonic state ... worship Satan, bomb children' and wonder how Israel would benefit; 'What about you guys?'

The exchange centers on whether the person being spoken to is the author of a controversial social media post and on whether authorities should press for a response. The conversation begins with an attempt to verify the person’s identity: “Picture to make sure it's you. We're not sure.” The responding party, referred to as Speaker 0, declines to answer without his lawyer present, stating, “I refuse to answer questions without my lawyer present. So I really don't know how to answer that question either.” He emphasizes his stance with a nod to freedom of speech, saying, “Well, you're like I said, you're not gonna is freedom of speech. This is America. Right? Veteran. Alright. And I agree with you 100%.” The officers explain they are trying to identify the correct person to speak with and proceed with the inquiry. Speaker 1 presents the substance of the post in question: “the guy who consistently calls for the death of all Palestinians tried to shut down a theater for showing a movie that hurt his feelings and refuses to stand up for the LGBTQ community in any way, Even leave the room when they vote and on related matters. Wants you to know that you're all welcome clown face clown face clown face.” They ask Speaker 0 if that post was authored by him. Speaker 0 again refuses to confirm, stating, “I’m not gonna answer whether that’s me or not.” The discussion shifts to the underlying concern. Speaker 1 clarifies that their goal is not to establish whether the post is true, but to prevent somebody else from being agitated or agreeing with the statement. They quote the line about “the guy who consistently calls for the death of all Palestinians” and note that such a post “can probably incite somebody to do something radical.” The purpose of the inquiry, they say, is to obtain Speaker 0’s side of the story and to address the potential impact of the post. Speaker 1 urges Speaker 0 to refrain from posting statements like that because they could provoke actions. Speaker 0 expresses appreciation for the outreach, but reiterates that he will maintain his amendment rights to not answer the question. He concludes by acknowledging the interaction and affirming that the conversation ends there: “That is it. And we're gonna maintain my amendment rights to, not answer the question about whether or that's fine.” Both parties part on a courteous note, with Speaker 0 thanking them and wishing them well.

'This guy is an extreme get my face.' 'You're acting deranged.' 'This kid's actually super fucking dangerous.' 'He is a very dangerous kid, it makes me very sad that he is in this community, that he is a part of this beautiful school.' 'Do you think that Charlie Kirk should have been killed?' 'I don't give a fuck about Charlie Kirk, and I don't give a fuck about you, dawg.' 'Do you think he should have been killed?' 'I don't give a fuck about you, and I don't give a fuck about Charlie.' 'Fuck you.' 'Do you think it was justified? I think you should fuck off. I think you should go back to New York or go back to LA.' 'Make sure you at me at squid tips at YouTube.' 'Don't be a fucking pussy this time, dog. Fucking post it loser.'

On one of the first days this show aired about the 50 states, a delegation to Israel visited, with people from state and local governments going to Israel, reportedly “humping the wall,” “licking the wall,” listening to speeches from Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli dignitaries, and being given instructions on how they would serve. The discussion then shifts to free speech and second amendment rights, setting the stage for the rest of the show. Jonathan Cagle, an American journalist known on X (formerly Twitter) with accounts such as decent backup, geez, decent JC, has been arrested. He is appearing today in a federal court, facing charges of cyberstalking. The report attributes the arrest to a group of “psychotic Zionists” who have been mass reporting him, attempting to have him kicked off the Internet and from various platforms, filing unpublished and videoed reports, and involving law enforcement. They have accused him of harassing, threatening, and stalking them, and now he faces federal charges. A central question raised is how many reports it takes to get arrested and jailed, and whether a “magic number” exists. The conversation notes X’s new program that flags accounts, suppresses content, and reduces reach, assigning scores (80%, 90%), thereby “snuffing out” visibility. The discussion asks if a coordinated online group can push someone into being arrested, just by accusing them of cyberstalking or other offenses. There is a GoFundMe-style fundraising page linked to Jonathan Cagle’s mother, Lisa Cagle, who states: “I’m Lisa Cagle, and my son needs help with a legal matter as he is a patriot fighting for America's future. He has a platform on X and is joined by so many that share the same passion for the great USA. Any donation is greatly appreciated. We’re raising legal funds to help cover the legal defense of a man facing serious federal charges that raise important questions about free speech, due process, and the proper limits of government power. The case is complex, high stakes, and emotionally taxing, not just for him, but for his family and loved ones. Federal cases move quickly, require specialized legal expertise, and are extremely expensive to defend properly. Without strong representation, the system can overwhelm even those who believe deeply in their innocence. This fundraiser is not about relitigating the case online or attacking anyone involved. It’s about ensuring that every person, regardless of public opinion, has access to a vigorous, competent defense as guaranteed by the constitution. Legal fees for federal defenses can include, and there’s this list here, and I mean, it’s every step of the way. Every contribution, no matter the size, helps ensure that this case is decided in a courtroom based on facts and law, not by financial imbalance or fear. If you’re unable to donate, sharing this page is also deeply appreciated.” The narrative notes that federal court proceedings are challenging due to the government’s resources, and it references the J6 situation, where participants were uprooted from their homes and faced severe sentences, implying a concern about intimidation by federal power. The discussion promises to follow the case and provide updates on the court hearing and further information about what is happening, given the large online attack from accounts on X that have targeted Jonathan to destroy him, making it difficult to discern the facts. The overarching theme is concern over free speech, due process, and the proper limits of government power in the face of online amplification and organized reporting campaigns.

I was suspended by Claudine Gay for behavior harmful to the community. She accused me of violating norms and betraying trust at Harvard. Do you believe in karma? Calling for the genocide of Jews is bullying and harassment, without a doubt.

These this lone shooter as it pertains to Charlie Kirk is not a lone shooter. It's a hive. I had been able to scrape everything about Thomas Crooks before the feds got rid of everything, and it's shocking there is no way this person was not on the federal radar. "the bait is to make me as a conservative hate you if you were on the left." The reality of Thomas Crooks is going to be a story that we should get familiar with. He was at first very angry against the left, outwardly calling for the murder of people that are on the left. "videos that he was posting of himself shooting with no bullets in the gun in his bedroom." We blurred the weapon. "That's funny because I always believed being patriotic was lining up a bunch of socialist Jews like the ones that booed Trump and blasting their useless brains out with an AR." "every one of the Trump hating Democrats deserves to have their heads chopped off and put on stakes for the world to see what happens when you f with America." His Google history includes "best places for a a mass shooting," "how to molotov make a molotov cocktail." He was fascinated with this stuff. Around 2020 he pivoted after COVID and "tried to assassinate him post COVID." "I think that this is a program. I do. I don't know know, but I know." "MK Ultra" and "I have no reason to believe that that program was ever discontinued." He suggests "they find these candidates in schools" and says he will post an 80 page document. We're never gonna be told what therapists he was seeing.

I am alarmed, harassed, and distressed because of your presence, but I'm afraid to confront you. It is not pleasant being investigated. You should investigate the individual responsible for the communication, specifically point one two seven. This addresses instances where posts cause significant distress or are of a menacing nature, resulting in anxiety for the recipient. You're going to be wearing a mask next. Do not call us a Jewish president. He's dominant to the right, do not call the right. Don't do that.

"I was so close to getting people together to go down to his house and kill him and his family." "I got a permit to own a gun and everything." "That worthless subhuman fucking piece of shit deserves to die." "the entire world would be better off if these people were permanently removed from these platforms." "I'll give you one last chance, Destiny, to condemn the murder of Charlie Yes." "We've all heard you repeatedly refuse to condemn it." "You don't have the basic humanity to condemn it. You'd rather taunt his widow. I find that sickening." "Today is the one year anniversary of the auctionstore.com." "Took six months to set it up, but we are launching life is fiery with its beauty." "For this week only, all shirts and hats are just $25." "Be the reason we always stay on the air." "Go now to the aloeshowstore.com."

- Now some someone did tell me at synagogue while I was offline, you know, just a heads up. - Candice is really going after you. - I was up till 3AM local time that night just dealing with all the messages and emails and whatnot there. - It's not fun. - This is not pushback. Right? - This is literally just picking a Jewish person and calling him subhuman filth and sinking your band of millions of neo Nazi zealots on a Jewish person who happens to be a husband and father to a to a to a young child. - It's awful, awful stuff. - Aaron, I think I I'm pretty sure I've said this publicly already. - I'm talking to lawyers. - I think that we have a a potentially serious case here for defamation, and I'm very much speaking with lawyers, and we'll see what happens. - I clerk for a federal appeals judge. - I know I know a thing or two about United States constitutional law.

It's stressful dealing with people online who say they want to kill me and desecrate my corpse. I think it's an overblown reaction, like calling me a Nazi. It's like they think I'm Hitler and should be assassinated. Remember that guy who tried to kill Trump? His online footprint was professionally scrubbed. I doubt corporations like BlackRock are directly ordering assassinations, but individuals might see it as beneficial. That kid at the Trump rally with the rangefinder raises a lot of questions. CNN streamed it live, which was unusual. The Secret Service said the roof was too sloped for people, yet snipers were on a steeper roof. If it was a coordinated hit, someone shoots Trump, then they shoot the kid, and it's all wrapped up. He's basically a suicide assassin. Something radicalized him. And how did he have five phones and no cutlery in his house? The whole thing is insane.

"We've all heard the vile statements that Destiny made about Charlie's life being taken from him." "But did you know that the guy who was speaking to Charlie when Charlie was unalived was a guy who was part of Destiny's Unfuck America's tour." "If you haven't heard of Unfuck America, the Unfuck America tour, look who that is, was scheduled to follow Turning Point around and counter all of Turning Point's events." "Destiny is their lead creator, and he's making these comments about Charlie and people who think like Charlie." "Everyone who works for Turning Point should get a restraining order against him immediately so that he or anyone who works for him is not allowed to show their ass up at these Turning Point events."

"You gotta just give up. It's it's gonna come out. Whatever it is, it's gonna come out. There you would have to and I wouldn't put it past you. You'd have to get rid of all of us." "You got, like, 7,000,000,000 people you've got to ethnically cleanse right now if you wanted to just forget about the Charlie Kirk story." "In 1963, when JFK was shot, people didn't watch it on TikTok." "You traumatized all of us." "We're grieving because you assassinated Charlie Kirk in front of the entire world." "If you had pretended he slipped and fell on some ice in the winter, maybe you wouldn't have this response."

Jonathan was taken hostage by the Jews. Bring the hostage home now. Second, some activists claim they will save America and they are the ones who know the cure for all diseases in the world, especially the cure for America. I will appreciate the work over the years. These people operate with anonymous accounts. I have no problem with anonymous accounts in principle, but I do not support being a rat, a weasel, a low-life social media account. I don’t see them as persons because they are weasels—social media accounts seeking likes, follows, and views. They are not sincere. If your buddy, who had the same views and the same following, was bigger than you and got doxxed, his life was taken from him, and they never let him become big again. Every week his account was suspended while yours ran. You know nothing about real war, sacrifice, being in prison cells, courts, rifles pointed at you. You live in comfortable lives in front of a phone or a computer. I know grifters and hypocrisy. Degrading to the level of rats I did not expect from you. The best thing you can do is shut your mouth when someone on your side—your companion—is held hostage. If you have something negative to say, so be silent. If you don’t want to support him openly with your anonymous account, at least shut your mouth. If you can’t express explicit support, say nothing. But I see you making spaces to disown him and recount what you told him not to do. Is this the time for such commentary when a friend is hostage? Is this the time to reveal your supposed wise advice or to disown him and say you won’t interact with him anymore? So you, with anonymous accounts, are you the cue for America, you fucking rats? You are not sincere in anything, even with your own. You are the cube for America. You are fucking weasels, despicable human beings, and I disown you. I will not interact with you. This is the biggest humiliation to my self-honor to entertain the idea of being in your space. Being with hypocrites, rats, weasels, treacherous motherfuckers, disgusting people. And they will speak to me about national socialism in Germany. Who the fuck are you to mention them?

the absurdity of it. Some of the Internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder. That's insane. That's insane. Israel also changes the orbit of the moon. Israel pushes the sun. You can't believe that people are saying this. They just found the perpetrator. They'll get to the bottom of this. But they they go, you know, they have no limits. When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors. And by the way, they're willing to to kill us all the time. Charlie Kirk said to me that he wrote me this detailed letter, you have to fight the slander. These untruths, these vilifications have consequences. And he was right. He was gonna win. That's why they shot him. I hope they don't silence him. I don't think people will give in to these ridiculous, ridiculous lies.

A person sent the speaker antisemitic messages, including calling Jewish people "kaiks," saying Hitler should have burned millions more, and listing Jews in fake news, claiming Jewish people rise to the top due to their high IQ. The speaker responded by calling the sender a racist and a fraud, and stated they would debit the sender's bank account. The speaker believes this behavior is a bad representation of the MAGA and Q movements. Another person claims Dustin is a psyop working for the Jews, focused on outcasts, homosexuals, and pedophiles, and that he admires Jews and believes they are a superior race. They allege Dustin is a drug addict who sold drugs on school property and worked as a gay stripper and prostitute. They further claim Dustin believes he and his fellow Jews are gods and that he invented the two-sided dildo.

"This is an actual group chat, which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated." "There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie and Rob McCoy." "Rob McCoy was on this text thread." "just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace." "Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause." "please do not invite Candace. That might feel good short term but it's not good long term."

He recounts being told, while offline at the synagogue, that Candice is really going after him, and he describes the effect of turning his phone on to see all the notifications and messages. He says he was up until 3AM local time dealing with the barrage of messages and emails. He distinguishes this experience from ordinary pushback, stating that this is not a response to a legal theory or a constructive debate about the two-state solution, but rather “picking a Jewish person and calling him subhuman filth and sinking your band of millions and millions of neo Nazi zealots on a Jewish person who happens to be a … husband and father to a young child.” He emphasizes the severity and ugliness of the harassment, characterizing it as “awful, awful stuff.” He then shifts to his own perspective, noting publicly (as far as he believes) that he is talking to lawyers about the matter. As a lawyer with a background that includes clerking for a federal appeals judge, he states that he “knows a thing or two about United States constitutional law.” He says there is “potentially serious case here for defamation” and that he is “very much speaking with lawyers,” with the outcome still to be determined—“we’ll see what happens.” He frames the situation as a confrontation that goes beyond typical professional disagreement, involving targeted hatred toward a Jewish individual who is described as a husband and father. Throughout, he underscores the personal toll of the online harassment, contrasting it with his professional experience and legal considerations. He communicates a sense of urgency and concern about the legal and reputational implications, while indicating he is actively seeking legal counsel to assess possible defamation avenues. The overall message centers on the severity of the targeted harassment, its anti-Jewish intensity, and the potential legal response he may pursue.

"Charlie Kirk should not have been assassinated." "That's what I said that caused tens of thousands of Democrats to come into my comments and mentions literally hurling homophobic slurs at me." "The ultimate irony is that that's the reason why you justify the assassination of Charlie Kirk was because he was such a bigot and he said all these horrible things, which aren't even real quotes, by the way." "You hate him for things he never even said." "Meanwhile, you guys are actively saying things that are infinitely worse than anything that Charlie Kirk said." "And you guys don't see it." "You don't have that ability to self reflect." "You have no ability to self reflect." "You guys you guys can literally sit there being the nastiest, meanest, most cruel hearted people ever and genuinely believe that you're the good guy because you're doing it to bad people." "Oh, yeah. What is wrong with you?"

The speaker claims the Israeli war room is trying to get the FBI after them. This follows the speaker's video arguing that Elias Rodriguez's elimination of two Zionist officials was an act of resistance, not an antisemitic terrorist attack. The speaker anticipates the FBI's involvement, referencing a prior incident in November when someone smeared them by sending false bomb threats to synagogues in their city, attributed to the speaker. The speaker expresses disdain for the FBI, federal authorities, the Israeli war room, and accuses them of being traitors to humanity.