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- Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the possibility that a friend was murdered and suggest that both victims died suddenly from fast-moving cancer, a method they say the agency uses overseas to eliminate people. Speaker 1 admits he cannot prove this but notes the sudden deaths. - The conversation asserts that the US government has technology to infect people with fast-moving cancer and to perform cognitive and directed-energy warfare. Speaker 0 states the government has the technology to infect with fast-moving cancer and to do so absolutely. - In 1997, Speaker 1 describes a hearing on asymmetric threats where he chaired the research committee and focused on four threats: drones, cyberattacks, electromagnetic pulse (EMP), and cognitive warfare. He asserts that cognitive warfare is now being labeled by some as Havana syndrome and that directed-energy weapons are the underlying technology. - Speaker 2 recounts a recent homeland security hearing about foreign adversaries using direct weapons against US citizens, enabling incapacitation. He emphasizes the chilling nature of the briefing and criticizes current domestic leadership as foolish, corrupt, incompetent, and wicked. - Speaker 3 notes that up to 40% of the Air Force equipment budget in the 1990s was classified, making much of it “black.” He emphasizes that military and security research often precedes civilian medical science, and that servicemen were used in experiments without fully informed consent, referencing NK Ultra-era disclosures of thousands of service members used as subjects. - Speaker 4 discusses MKUltra, describing a Canadian experiment involving psychic driving with massive LSD doses, eye-tracking, and memory loss, funded by MKUltra and affecting civilians. He mentions Project Midnight Climax, where Johns were observed in brothels while subjected to LSD, and notes similar experiments by the British Royal Air Force and Army. The results of Midnight Climax are unknown, with no published after-action reports. - Speaker 3 adds that Secretary of Energy O’Leary stated under Clinton that over a half a million Americans had been used in human experiments over four decades without informed consent, including mind control, with no accountability. He argues that mind-control technology has advanced, and questions who should govern its use, given the lack of legal frameworks. - The discussion covers mind-effects research and the lack of treaties governing such technologies. They reference a European Parliament security and disarmament resolution (1999) addressing mind-effects and mind-control technology, and Russian Duma resolutions (2002) seeking similar safeguards. Zabigniew Brzezinski’s Between Two Ages is cited regarding electronically stroking the ionosphere to influence behavior over geographic areas, connecting it to HARP and other electromagnetic carriers capable of mass or individual influence. - Speaker 6 explains historical demonstrations of electronic mind control, starting with Jose Delgado’s remote manipulation of a charging bull using radio energy and electrodes, and notes later work showing noninvasive techniques to influence behavior using low-power magnetic fields. Speaker 7 reiterates Delgado’s animal studies and the potential for noninvasive methods to affect emotions and memory, with broader implications for humans. - Speaker 3 discusses the progression of research funded by DARPA and others toward higher-resolution control of brain activity, enabling controlled effects that override senses and create synthetic memories, raising questions about future justice and evidence. They describe European Parliament and NATO/US military interest in mind-control technologies and the absence of robust legal protections. - Speaker 9 presents advances in AI-enabled brain-reading and memory-altering devices, including mind-reading and emotion decoding, while Speaker 10 and Speaker 12 discuss privacy concerns, brain-data privacy laws (Colorado’s law adding brain data to privacy protections), and the availability of consumer devices that decode brainwaves. They warn that brain data can be misused by insurers, law enforcement, advertisers, and governments, with private companies often sharing data without clear disclosure. - The segment concludes with a note that devices can infer attention and thoughts, and that DARPA’s N3D program aims for noninvasive neuromodulation with implantable electrodes read/write capabilities. It references 1980s–1990s discussions of RF energy as a potential nonlethal mind-control technology, and a 1993 Johns Hopkins conference listing low-frequency weapons as attractive options.

Andrew McCabe, former deputy director of the FBI and acting director, discusses on the One Decision podcast plans to examine the matrix of threats that are globally problematic, with a focus on challenges facing their countries and a comparative look from a European perspective and a United States perspective.

Speaker 0: Five major threats make the grid extremely vulnerable: cyber, hackers, physical threats, solar EMP, and man-made EMP. The concern is that when they hear the risk analysis, officials may hear it but won’t take action. Speaker 1: There are 18 critical infrastructures in the United States (food, water, transportation, communications, etc.). All 17 of the others depend on electricity. Speaker 2: If our grid goes down, you can't cook, you can't heat anything, you can't run medical supplies, you can't talk on your phone, you can't take money out of a bank, and we turn into total chaos. Speaker 3: If this happens, the system stops. Stops. Speaker 2: If a transformer is taken down, we have to order it from Germany or China. It's going to take a year. Speaker 1: Up till recently, there were no comprehensive protective solutions available. Speaker 4: We know what the solutions are. They're not expensive. They're not difficult to employ. We just need the political will to do it and the follow through on the part of the electric utilities to get it done. Speaker 3: The White House is protected from an EMP. The congress and the CIA and the NSA, all of the areas that need to function at the government are protected. So why can't we be protected? Speaker 1: Around some of these facilities, you don't have much more than a chain link fence to keep people out. That seems absurd to me. Speaker 5: I think it is absurd when we now know that attack on as few as nine grid substations could bring down all three major interconnections for The United States grid. Speaker 3: If the power goes out, you get the generator. And if that goes out, you get another one. There's never been a plan for what happens after that. Speaker 1: Director of the National Security Agency, Admiral Rogers, came out and said, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

The discussion identifies five major threats to the electric grid: cyber attacks, hackers, physical threats, solar EMP, and man-made EMP. The speakers express concern that once this risk analysis is presented to congressional officials, they hear the warnings but are reluctant to take action. They note that there are 18 critical infrastructures in the United States (food, water, transportation, communications, etc.), and all 17 of the others depend on electricity. If the grid goes down, basic activities are disrupted: cooking, heating, medical supplies, phone communication, banking access, and overall societal function could deteriorate into chaos. A single transformer outage is especially critical because replacement would require ordering from Germany or China and could take a year. Historically, there were no comprehensive protective solutions available, but the speakers claim that the solutions exist now. They assert that the solutions are not expensive or difficult to implement; what is lacking is political will and follow-through by electric utilities. They contrast protection for the White House, Congress, the CIA, and the NSA with a lack of protection for many grid facilities, noting that around some facilities there is little more than a chain-link fence to keep people out, which they find absurd. A key point is that an attack on as few as nine grid substations could bring down all three major interconnections of the U.S. grid. The following consequence chain is described: if the power goes out, people would rely on generators, and if those fail, there is no plan for what happens next. The statement concludes with Admiral Mike Rogers of the National Security Agency saying that it is not a matter of if, but when a grid disruption will occur.

Erica Fronse, host of Millennials Rock, introduces Dr. Peter Pry, executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security and director of the US Nuclear Strategy Forum, both congressional advisory boards. Pry has served on the Congress’s EMP Commission, the Strategic Posture Commission, the House Armed Services Committee, and the CIA, and is the author of Apocalypse Unknown. Fronse asks Pry to address the grid vulnerability facing the United States and to explain what EMP is, what threats Americans should be aware of, and what represents a major security issue today. Pry explains that an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) can be generated by detonating a nuclear weapon at high altitude in outer space. He notes that such an event would not produce a visible blast or nuclear fallout, but would generate a super energetic radio wave known as an electromagnetic pulse. This EMP would destroy electronics across all of the Continental United States, leading to the collapse of the power grid, communications, transportation, business, and finance. He adds that under a year-long blackout scenario caused by a nuclear EMP attack, the Congressional EMP Commission estimated that nine out of ten Americans could die from starvation, disease, and societal collapse. He emphasizes that this devastation could be achieved with a single nuclear weapon. Pry then references Iran, noting that Iran has written in its military doctrine that developing the bomb is tied to this kind of capability. He also mentions that Iran has demonstrated practices of launching missiles from short-range platforms on ships to simulate an EMP attack, illustrating a strategic interest in exploiting EMP-like effects or the threat they pose. The discussion underscores the perceived severity of an EMP threat as a major security concern, highlighting both the potential scale of disruption to critical infrastructure and the included risks to human life in the event of a prolonged outage.

- Mitch testified that he is 99% sure he saw Erica Kirk at Fort Huachuca with Brian Harpole, congressman Mark Amity, and a group of military officers, and he is taking a great personal risk in going public. - Fort Huachuca is described as the home to the only unmanned aircraft training center in the United States. The discussion connects Fort Huachuca to drone activity and to manned aircraft capable of releasing and retrieving drones, including the Bombardier Global 65,000 military jet with tail number N1098 Lima, which allegedly performed nine-eleven level maneuvers on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. - It is claimed that Fort Huachuca is also the military’s only site in the country that tests EMP blasts, electromagnetic pulse blasts that can disable telecommunications, and that these EMP blasts can be carried out by drones, such as the drone reported around UVU at the time Charlie Kirk was killed, where people on the ground said their cell phone service was disrupted. - The speaker suggests that, given Mitch’s information and previous discussions, the Fort Huachuca angle may be the explanation for what happened, implying that an EMP carried out by a drone from Fort Huachuca could be involved. - Lori Fransvi V is described as the founder of E3 Tech, a defense contractor that claims to produce EMP-proof technology for the military and that earns millions of dollars in government contracts. E3 Tech is said to be closely linked to Israel under the guise of allied defense contracting and cooperation. - It is stated that E3 Tech’s EMP-proof technology would have to pass through Fort Huachuca, making Fort Huachuca the lifeblood of E3 Tech’s work. - The narrative asserts a backstory about Erica Kirk’s mother, Lori Fransky, portraying her as a hardworking single mom who fought and clawed to get by, moving to Arizona because of her work. The speaker says, given what is now known, that Lori Fransky didn’t just have to be in Arizona for work, but had to be at Fort Huachuca, and that Erica also had to be there because of her mother’s defense contract. - It is claimed that Lori Fransby/Fransky’s parents are connected to Fort Huachuca as well: Kent Fransby with ties to Raytheon, Israel, LTD, and the Iron Dome, and involved in defense contracts with the same military base where Mitch says he saw Erica Kirk before Charlie Kirk’s assassination. - The overall assertion is that Fort Huachuca is central to Erica Kirk, to Ken Fransby, to Lori Fransby, and to Erica Kirk’s connection to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

The speaker discusses the topic of cyber warfare and highlights various incidents involving Iranian and Russian hackers. They mention a book written by Nicole Pearl Ross, a former New York Times reporter on cybercrime, which provides insights into the history and vulnerabilities of cyber warfare. The speaker emphasizes the potential consequences of cyber attacks on critical infrastructure, such as power grids, dams, and nuclear plants. They argue that the US is particularly vulnerable to such attacks and suggests that cyber warfare will play a significant role in future conflicts. The speaker encourages viewers to read the book for a deeper understanding of the subject.

Speaker 0 said that people in the Missile Defense Agency, including the now deceased doctor Peter Pry and his colleague David Pine, had long claimed—about for a decade—that Iranian electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapons were placed on satellites in orbit. Speaker 0 added that Space Force has been tracking such suspected EMP activity for years and that the situation might involve preemptive shootdowns of these suspected EMP bomb satellites as part of escalation against Iran. Speaker 1 said EMP attacks on U.S. infrastructure are a major concern, stating that “it wouldn't take much for entire electric grid to be wiped out.” Speaker 0 then stated that one EMP detonated 50 miles above the Continental United States would knock out 90 to 95% of the electric grid, that there is no restoring it for a minimum of two years, and that the grid would not come back online within two years because the physical gear needed to restore it comes from China. The discussion then shifted to missing scientists and technology origins. Speaker 1 said it was fascinating that there is “massive overlap” between U.S. and Chinese scientists who have gone missing, and he said that he and Speaker 0 could disagree on where the technology came from. Speaker 1 described a claim he had heard from special forces and involvement in a secret space program: the technology was accidentally discovered through crash retrieval from UAPs “long time ago.” Speaker 0 said he did not have special knowledge and expressed a belief that extraordinary people and technologies have historically come from hidden or inherited research, referencing Tesla and claiming Nazis developed advanced systems at Peenemünde that were inherited. Speaker 0 suggested that “the alien thing might be a cover story,” while stating he does not have anyone on the inside who could tell him one way or the other and describing it as his opinion. Speaker 1 said the cover story idea includes the pattern that people assume anything seen in the sky is an alien craft, but that it is often U.S. military technology. He also asserted that “the Nazi technology came from these crash retrieval programs in Russia, China.” Speaker 1 then asked a UFO-related question, saying they have seen six scientists go missing, including military personnel working in plasma physics, advanced heat-resistant materials, magnetism, doctors, and the director of MIT’s plasma science fusion center. He said he had sources from special forces that this plasma technology was found accidentally after a downed UAP. He also referenced Brendan Weichert’s earlier reporting that the issue is “not about aliens,” and stated that China and the United States are “playing this very dangerous game” by missing each other’s scientists.