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I gotta be careful the way I say this. 'To they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.' 'I mean, that that's and I'm I don't use that term lightly. Okay?' 'They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from there.' 'Okay?' 'And, honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge.' 'They do.' 'The the there is they this idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's morally after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets.' This excerpt centers on warnings about ethnic cleansing, removal of residents, revenge, and a controversial view on truces or peace treaties amid violence.

Participants question the plan for Gaza and the West Bank. "On the West Bank, I think we were setting up annexation," they say, warning that "the Israelis want to take over that and call the entire West Bank ... part of Israel." They ask, "What does annexation mean?" and, "Then will the Palestinians live or get voting rights?" They critique U.S. policy as outsourcing action to others, noting "we’re paying for them" and that "this is America last in every possible way" amid "the endless war front." The discussion highlights casualty estimates in Gaza—"60 k" versus "100,000 up to 200,000"—and concerns about displacement of 2,000,000 residents, with rumors of resettlement by other countries. They ask, "Do you think it's possible that US government officials have talked to foreign governments about accepting the population of Gaza as refugees?" Concluding, "America is for forced displacement."

President Trump's proposal to transform Gaza into a "Middle East Riviera" and relocate its inhabitants has sparked international outrage. Many countries, including Russia, China, Germany, and France, condemn the plan as a violation of international law and a form of ethnic cleansing. Supporters, however, see it as a potential solution for lasting peace in the region. My guest, Ryan Mata, calls the situation an atrocity, citing horrific accounts of civilian casualties and the destruction of Gaza. He also discusses the alleged misuse of USAID funds and its role in undermining third-world governments, highlighting the disappearance of thousands of Guatemalan children. This conflict, presented with significant bias, demands open discussion and the consideration of all perspectives. We must remember the humanity of those affected and their right to self-determination.

Speaker says 'Fact is now Bibi and the Israeli hard right government has a mandate' I gotta be careful the way I say this. 'To they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.' They say 'They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from that.' 'And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge.' They add: 'the idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's more after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets.' But there are some serious questions here, Patrick. And let me tell you, my pattern recognition over the last five years has become pretty sharp. 'COVID, Maui fires, you know, Epstein.' 'When I see a story and it doesn't click, we're our guts are usually right.'

Two, they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from there.

Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize, by the way, for the planned ethnic cleansing so that they could profit on the land and turn it into a beach town. This is our never again. This is a Holocaust. A Holocaust just happened. We will never forget this. You need to tell your children what happened in Gaza. You need to tell them exactly who did it, exactly whose families were involved in this. Gaza belongs to nobody but the Palestinians. So when you begin to move the Israelis in there and when the Trump hotel gets built on there, I caution the rest of the world to stay far away from that cursed land because something is coming. You can't commit that much evil in broad daylight and not think it's gonna come back to haunt you.

Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize, by the way, for the planned ethnic cleansing so that they could profit on the land and turn it into a beach town. This is our never again. This is a Holocaust. A Holocaust just happened. We will never forget this. You need to tell your children what happened in Gaza. You need to tell them exactly who did it, exactly whose families were involved in this. Gaza belongs to nobody but the Palestinians. So when you begin to move the Israelis in there and when the Trump hotel gets built on there, I caution the rest of the world to stay far away from that cursed land because something is coming. You can't commit that much evil in broad daylight and not think it's gonna come back to haunt you. Anyways.

And Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize, by the way, for the planned ethnic cleansing so that they could profit on the land and turn it into a beach town. So let me say this. This is our never again. This is a Holocaust. A Holocaust just happened. Gaza belongs to nobody but the Palestinians. So when you begin to move the Israelis in there and when the Trump hotel gets built on there, I caution the rest of the world to stay far away from that cursed land because something is coming. You can't commit that much evil in broad daylight and not think it's gonna come back to haunt you. We will never forget this. You need to tell your children what happened in Gaza. You need to tell them exactly who did it, exactly whose families were involved in this.

Afshan and Rutansi host Going Underground from the UAE, discussing Gaza hunger amid Western actions and the wider US-Israeli war context in West Asia, alongside references to Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba. They introduce Melvin Goodman, a former CIA officer and whistleblower who criticized politicization of intelligence, and now a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy, a Johns Hopkins government professor, and Counterpunch columnist. Netanyahu’s White House visit is highlighted: Israeli Channel 14 claims Netanyahu demanded complete cancellation of Iran’s nuclear program, zero uranium enrichment, removal of enrichment capabilities, limits on ballistic missiles to 300 kilometers, and intensive, genuine oversight of Iran. The hosts question Netanyahu’s influence and the ease with which an Israeli prime minister can press a US president. Speaker Goodman notes Netanyahu has a very good relationship with Trump, citing Netanyahu as a “houseguest” of the Kushner family in the past, and asserts the ceasefire is a joke as people die. He suggests Netanyahu will push for military force, with targets possibly concentrating on Iranian ballistic missile sites rather than nuclear facilities, based on satellite imagery of reconstruction. Goodman calls Netanyahu a “war president” and warns the government could move further right; he says the US continues to provide and may increase military aid to Israel despite civilian harm. Afshan and Goodman discuss US policy under Trump and Biden, agreeing that both have cooperated with genocide in Gaza. They contrast Netanyahu’s alignment with Trump and US arms support to Israel, noting heavy tonnage bombings and ongoing military aid. The conversation shifts to US intelligence and leadership: Goodman discusses CIA director John Ratcliffe as a political appointee, the broader claim that Trump’s administration is the worst cabinet in US history, and the need for the CIA to tell truth to power. Goodman states Ratcliffe has kept CIA out of the news regarding Venezuelan, Caribbean, and Pacific intelligence activities, aiding US military actions, while criticizing Trump’s overall approach to intelligence and governance. Ukraine is addressed briefly: Bill Burns as Moscow ambassador is argued to have not gone quiet, having warned both sides. They discuss genocide labels for Russia’s actions in Ukraine and the Gaza situation, with a back-and-forth about whether similar terms apply to Ukraine and Gaza. Goodman argues NATO expansion is a root cause of the war, and that Trump’s approach lacks a clear long-term disarmament strategy. He recalls participating in SALT I and ABM treaty contexts and critiques the Trump administration’s handling of arms control negotiations, blaming the absence of seasoned negotiators and the influence of non-experts like real estate billionaires on policy. The START treaty expiry is mentioned, with expectations of renewed talks and the importance of limits on new weapons from Russia and China. Goodman emphasizes the need to negotiate, noting past successes like the partial test ban treaty and INF/ABM treaties, and warns that the current US trajectory risks an arms race and destabilization, especially given China’s rapidly growing arsenal. The interview broadens to Epstein-related political pressure, noting Trump’s use of the Department of Justice and alleged pressure from various sources, including claims about Epstein files. Goodman discusses domestic pressures on Trump, including personnel changes and public opinion. Toward the end, Goodman cautions that the US aims to “be king of the Western Hemisphere,” and warns of dark days for Cuba and Venezuela, as Latin American governments move right in response to US policy. He observes a lack of coherent diplomatic channels and disarmament engagement, concluding that the near term is not optimistic. The program ends with condolences for Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran victims, and a teaser for a Saturday episode.

Trump may have already launched a war, restarting Biden and Obama's wars. The United Arab Emirates won't allow the US to use its base in Abu Dhabi for an attack. Iran is better than others who stand with Israel or do nothing for Palestine. A war on Iran is what Netanyahu wants, who has been dragging Trump in his direction. Trump came to power claiming he was a man of peace and wanted a Nobel Peace Prize, but now he is being dragged into military actions. An attack on Iran would be a huge disaster for the region, the world's economy, and everybody. Netanyahu dreams of being the new imperial leader controlling the Middle East. Netanyahu seems to control Trump. The whole crowd around Trump is Zionist and totally supportive of Israel. Trump has forced Netanyahu to accept a temporary ceasefire, but now supports violations of every ceasefire by Netanyahu. This will lead to disasters for everybody, including the United States.