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The speakers discuss a line of questioning about Peter Thiel and its potential influence on others. Speaker 0 recalls asking about Peter Thiel, after which the other person responded by turning the focus back on the questioner and claimed that the questioner was funded by Peter Thiel. According to Speaker 0, this response caused the other person to “crash out,” implying a sudden interruption or withdrawal from the discussion. Speaker 1 reiterates that the person “crashed out” as a result of the inquiry into Thiel. The conversation then broadens to consider whether the broader group being discussed is funded by Peter Thiel. Speaker 1 asserts that “they a 100% are funded by Peter Thiel,” referring to a collection of individuals including Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate. The phrasing suggests a belief that these figures are financially supported by Thiel, and Speaker 0 confirms acknowledging this trend by asking for a clarification of the funding. The two speakers describe the group as being in a “little” or tightly connected circle, implying a coordinated or aligned faction. Speaker 1 strengthens the claim by labeling the group as “the Avengers, the Peter Thiel Avengers,” portraying them as a premeditated or organized cohort with a shared agenda. The use of the term “Avengers” conveys the sense of a unified front or mission among the members, and Speaker 0 repeats the idea of a shared agenda, reinforcing the perception of a concerted effort. The discussion culminates in Speaker 1’s assertion about the motivation behind their alleged funding: the claim is that the objective is to exert “mind control of young men.” This line frames Thiel’s alleged influence as intentional and targeted, casting the funding as a strategy to shape the beliefs or behavior of a specific demographic group. Overall, the exchange centers on the hypothesis that Peter Thiel funds certain controversial public figures, leading to a perception of coordination and a deliberate influence campaign aimed at young men. The dialogue emphasizes the immediacy of televised or public confrontations when questions about funding arise and portrays the involved individuals as part of a tightly connected, ideologically aligned group.

The speaker claims groups like the Trilateral Commission, created by Rockefeller, have been pushing a eugenicist agenda for a long time, and that Keir Starmer is a member. They believe these groups envision an upper and lower class becoming different species, with the lower class becoming mentally retarded and serving the super elite. The speaker asserts technologies framed as mental or genetic enhancement are dual use and can diminish as well as enhance. They state groups like DARPA and the Pentagon have heavily developed these technologies, not only as enhancers but also as weapons of war that can target people on a genetic level. The speaker concludes that "maniacs are in the driver's seat" and people need to take action.

The speakers discuss Donald Trump's connections to technocrats, bankers, and Zionists, suggesting these groups influenced his election and actions. They highlight figures like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel as key players in a technocratic movement, noting their involvement in companies like Palantir, Founders Fund, and investments in firms like Spotify, Facebook/Meta, and OpenAI. Stanford University is identified as a CIA breeding ground, influencing individuals like Ken Howery. The speakers allege a pattern of billionaires buying influence under the guise of patriotism, citing Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, and Alex Jones. They claim payment processors like Stripe are involved, creating an illusion of choice. The speakers connect Peter Thiel to Jeffrey Epstein through Carbine 911 and Sergey Brin to Epstein's island. They discuss the Human Immunome Project and its ties to bioengineering and DNA manipulation. JD Vance's connections to Purdue Pharma and Vivek Ramaswamy's ties to Bill Ackman and COVID vaccine distribution are scrutinized. The speakers allege a "uni-party" system, where figures like Trump, Musk, and Zuckerberg are interconnected through investments and shared interests. They point to TikTok's ownership by global institutional investors and Trump's cryptocurrency as further evidence of this system. They urge listeners to research these connections and resist falling for political psyops.

The talk traces a throughline from mid-20th century to today around nicotine products and the medical establishment, tying financial and political power to how health is marketed and regulated. - In the 1940s, Rockefeller doctors are described as being paid by tobacco companies to promote cigarette smoking. The argument then extends that tobacco companies realized they wouldn’t endure indefinitely, so they sought to keep influence by steering doctors to promote nicotine replacements—nicotine gum and nicotine patches—and they expanded into other nicotine deliveries, including inhalers and CBD products. - The narrative continues by asserting that, by 2025, pharmaceutical companies Johnson & Johnson and GSK are producing all of these nicotine products. It labels these same brands as wanting global vaccination and depopulation and claims they are run by the Rockefellers. It further asserts that another Rockefeller is involved in controlling the medical system and its connections to tobacco. - A chemical claim is raised: polysorbate eighty is found in nicotine gums, and this is described as the same chemical used in vaccines to break down the blood–brain barrier. The claim is made that polysorbate 80 is a modified neurotoxin nanoparticle used in nicotine products and ivermectin, suggesting a link between these products and broader vaccine technologies. - The speaker questions trust in doctors, noting a contrast between ongoing virus narratives and supposed alternative explanations. A claim is made that radio wave sickness has affected people since 2020 and that medical books describe viruses as being manipulated by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. - The discussion references a recommended reading list: a book about pandemics resulting from new forms of technology and the rollout of injections, and Tom Conlin’s The Contagion Myth, which is said to debunk germs and viruses and the Rockefeller narrative. It notes this discourse traces back to the Flexner Report of 1913. - The closing sentiment frames a choice for the audience: decide whether to believe the stated lies or to move forward, with the implication that the path chosen will determine one’s understanding of health, medicine, and the role of powerful families in shaping medical narratives. In sum, the speaker weaves together claims of Rockefeller influence over doctors, tobacco and nicotine products, pharmaceutical dominance in nicotine delivery by 2025, chemical links to vaccines, alleged misinformation about viruses and “radio wave sickness,” and recommended literature that challenges mainstream germ theory and historic medical authority.

The speakers discuss Donald Trump's connections to technocrats, bankers, and Zionists, suggesting these groups influenced his election and actions. They highlight figures like Elon Musk, linked to Technocracy Inc., and Peter Thiel, whose Founders Fund invests in Palantir, Spotify, and Facebook, suggesting ties to intelligence agencies. The speakers allege Mark Zuckerberg's image rehabilitation aims to serve government interests, noting his background with John Hopkins, which produced the Spars Pandemic project. They claim Founders Fund creates an illusion of choice by funding competing services like Lyft and Postmates. The speakers connect Peter Thiel to Jeffrey Epstein through Carbine 911 and Sergey Brin to Epstein's island. They discuss 23andMe's Linda Avey's involvement in the Human Immunome Project and Stanford's ties to these figures. The speakers allege J.D. Vance, funded by Thiel, worked for a Purdue Pharma company and later appointed Sally Satel, who defended OxyContin, to an opioid reduction project. They connect Vance's friend Vivek Ramaswamy to mRNA vaccines and Bill Ackman, who has ties to Epstein. The speakers discuss Trump's cryptocurrency and his sons' crypto exchange, linking them to Steven Witkoff, who is involved in Middle East development. They allege TikTok's US data is on Oracle servers, owned by figures connected to the CIA and Israel. They claim a uni-party exists, with interconnected figures across the political spectrum.

Patrick Sarval is introduced as an author and expert on conspiracies, system architecture, geopolitics, and software systems. Ab Gieterink asks who Patrick Sarval is and what his expertise entails. Sarval describes himself as an IT architect, often a freelance contractor working with various control and cybernetics-oriented systems, with earlier experience including a Bitcoin startup in 2011, photography work for events, and involvement in topics around conspiracy thinking. He notes his books, including Complotcatalogus and Spiegelpaleis, and mentions Seprouter and Niburu in relation to conspiratorial topics. Gieterink references a prior interview about Complotcatalogus and another of Sarval’s books, and sets the stage to discuss Palantir, surveillance, and the internet. The conversation then shifts to explaining Palantir and its significance. Sarval emphasizes Palantir as a key element in a broader trend rather than focusing solely on the company itself. He uses science-fiction analogies to describe how data processing and artificial intelligence are evolving. In particular, he introduces the concept of a “brein” (brain) or “legion” that integrates disparate data streams, builds an ontology, and enables predictive analytics and tactical decision-making. Palantir is described as the intelligence brain that aggregates data from multiple sources to produce meaningful insights. Sarval explains that a rudimentary prototype of such a system operates under the name Lavender in Gaza, where metadata from sources like Meta (Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram), cell towers, satellites, and other sensors are fed into Palantir. The system performs threat analysis, ranks threats from high to low, and then a military operator—still human—must approve the action, with about 20–25 seconds to decide whether to fire a weapon. The claim is that Palantir-like software functions as the brain behind this process, orchestrating data integration, ontology creation, data fusion, digital twins, profiling, predictions, and tactical dissemination. The discussion covers how Palantir integrates data from medical records, parking fines, phone data, WhatsApp contacts, and more, then applies an overarching data model and digital twin to simulate and project outcomes. This enables targeted marketing alongside military uses, illustrating the broad reach of the platform. Sarval notes there are two divisions within Palantir: Gotum (military) and Foundry (business models), which he mentions to illustrate the dual-use nature of the technology. He warns that the system is designed to close feedback loops, allowing it to learn and refine its outputs over time, similar to how a thermostat adjusts heating based on sensor inputs. A central concern is the risk to the rule of law and human agency. The discussion highlights the potential erosion of the presumption of innocence and due process when decisions increasingly rely on predictive models and AI. The panel considers the possibility that in a high-stress battlefield scenario, soldiers or commanders might defer to the Palantir-presented “world view,” making it harder to refuse an order. There is also concern about the shift toward autonomous weapons and the removal of human oversight in critical decisions, raising fears about the ethics and accountability of such systems. The conversation moves to the political and ideological backdrop surrounding Palantir’s leadership. Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and a close circle with ties to PayPal and other tech-industry figures are discussed. Sarval characterizes Palantir’s leadership as ideologically defined, with statements about Zionism and a political worldview influencing how the technology is developed and deployed. The dialogue touches on perceived connections to broader geopolitical influence, including the role of influence campaigns, media shaping, and the involvement of powerful networks in technology development and national security. As the discussion progresses, the speakers explore the implications of advanced AI and the “new generative AI” era. They consider the nature of AI and the potential for it to act not just as a data processor but as a decision-maker with emergent properties that challenge human control. The concept of pre-crime—predicting and acting on potential future threats before they materialize—is discussed as a troubling possibility, especially when a machine’s probability-based judgments guide life-and-death actions. Towards the end, the conversation contemplates what a fully dominated surveillance state might look like, including cognitive warfare and personalized influence through media, ads, and social networks. The dialogue returns to questions about how far Palantir and similar systems have penetrated international security programs, with speculation about Gaza, NATO adoption, and commercial uses beyond military applications. The speakers acknowledge the possibility of multiple trajectories and emphasize the need for checks and balances, transparency, and critical reflection on the power such systems confer upon a relatively small group of technologists and influencers. They conclude with a nod to the transformative and potentially dystopian future of AI-enabled surveillance and decision-making, cautioning against unbridled expansion and urging vigilance.

"the 1% oligarchy." "pushing us towards this techno feudalism, like a neo feudalism stuff with transhumanism in it, where they use transhumanism and AI to basically stratify the 99% from the 1% by technological and genetic engineering means." "Nick Land — genetically self filtering elite." "they'll be able to dominate genetic engineering and will engineer themselves into something completely superior to everyone else." "Marc Andreessen's techno optimist stuff." "Eric Schmidt are on the steering committee of Bilderberg with Peter Thiel and Alex Karp." "we're told these are elites on different sides." "the not chosen ones, basically, will be engineered to be inferior genetically and also with the use of technology like brain chips and all of this transhumanist shit." "it's not conspiracy anymore. They're very open about it on both sides." "sound bites of them on Joe Rogan's podcast ... 'it's me, Marky. I didn't mean to censor you.'"

David Icke and an interviewer discuss a sweeping premise: the next major conflict may be over bodies and minds, not borders or money. The documentary The Human Antenna, and Icke’s new book The Roadmap, assemble claims that COVID injections, nanotechnology, and an AI-driven world are tools in a plan to fuse or fuse-with—rather than merely interface with—technology, potentially creating a world where humanity is connected to a larger hive mind and managed by AI. The interview frames this as not doom, but a path to “break free of this matrix.” Key ideas Icke presents - The end goal is an upgraded or downgraded human that is connected like hardware in an AI-managed system, forming a hive-mind reality. The film and book tie together claims about the COVID vaccines, nanotech, and a push toward AI-driven control, with a purported roadmap to escape this matrix. - A small, global elite—“the few”—exerts control by ensuring the many remain in rigid belief systems. By locking people into fixed identities (religious, political, cultural), they box minds and enable divide-and-rule. The aim is to prevent the many from uniting against the few who supposedly hold hidden knowledge and power. - Perception is the instrument of control. Information flow shapes perception, which shapes behavior. Censorship and mainstream media have been used to sculpt what people think. The COVID narrative is cited as a microcosm: a minority at the top of institutions allegedly pushed a narrative that coerced billions into actions (masking, vaccination) to protect against a deadly virus, thereby demonstrating how perception controls behavior. - Moving beyond information control, Icke argues the next stage is direct mind-to-machine fusion via AI “the cloud.” Ray Kurzweil and others have described a future in which human perception is supplied directly by AI, reducing or eliminating human thought and emotion as sources of perception. This would enable a new form of control. - Public figures are described as frontmen or “gophers” for a larger project. Musk is discussed as a case: initially positioned as AI-skeptic, Musk’s acquisition of Twitter (renamed X) is portrayed as part of a broader arc toward normalizing and accelerating AI fusion, with the platform acting as a propaganda arm for the AI agenda. The involvement of Trump and various tech magnates (Ellison, Altman, Palantir’s Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, David Sacks) is cited as surrounding the AI fusion push. - Creative destruction is the tactic used to move from one phase to the next. Major historical upheavals (World Wars, the Great Depression, Bretton Woods system) are described as steps in a long process that clears the way for a new global order. Trump’s role, according to Icke, is to dismantle the current system so the next phase—AI human fusion and total digital control—can be installed. - The next stage may rely on a global electromagnetic system. Icke argues that a hive mind could be fostered through AI and a network of electromagnetic fields, including satellites and 5G/6G, and, crucially, nanotech in vaccines. He cites graphene oxide as a nanomaterial that purportedly amplifies electromagnetic fields and can act as a superconductor, enabling outside frequencies to influence brain processing and perception. He claims self-replicating nanotech in vaccines could serve as a receiver within the body for hive-mind signals. - The role of the astral dimension and the simulation: Icke describes a non-human, astral realm that interacts with humanity through a multi-level simulation. The “global cult” operates in the astral dimension, manipulating human society via this simulation, which is encoded with rules akin to computer codes. The simulation aims to keep consciousness within a limited perceptual field, or “the ring past” (a wheel of samsara). Death and near-death experiences are discussed as experiences within this larger framework, with consciousness reincarnating and being drawn back into the simulation to learn lessons and continue the cycle. - Reincarnation and awakening: Icke references the research of psychiatrists like Ian Stevenson on children claiming past-life memories as evidence for reincarnation, arguing that consciousness, not bodies, reincarnates. He describes near-death experiences where consciousness passes through an electromagnetic field that erases memory, then returns to life through a mechanism akin to the “wheel of samsara.” Awakening, in his view, is expanding consciousness beyond the programmed perception to see through the simulation, leading toward an expansive self-identity that recognizes consciousness as part of an infinite spectrum of possibility. - The nature of reality and consciousness: The body is described as a biological computer; perception arises from frequency processing of signals through the senses. The matrix or information field is the interface that can be influenced by energy and frequency. High-vibrational states (love, harmony) versus low-vibrational states (fear, anger, hatred) are said to generate different energetic energies that certain astral entities feed on. The “gift” of satanic rituals, in this account, is the generation of low-vibrational energy that sustains these astral entities. Adrenochrome is mentioned as a drug-like byproduct associated with fear-based energy and sacrifice, powering the ritual system. - Death, fear, and freedom: Icke argues that breaking the program of the body through expanded consciousness allows one to escape control, and that true freedom involves transcending the limitations of self-identity as a human within the matrix. He recounts personal experiences of ridicule and persecution starting in the 1990s and emphasizes that awakening is not about dogma but about expanding awareness beyond rigid belief systems. - Practical takeaway: The interview promotes The Human Antenna and Icke’s Roadmap as resources to explore these ideas. It also points to his Iconic media projects and to the broader project of awakening by expanding self-identity beyond conventional frames of reality. Context and framing - The interview frames these claims as a cohesive system: a secretive global cult manipulating perception through information and, ultimately, technology; a push toward AI-driven consciousness fusion; and a multilevel reality including an astral dimension and a simulated environment. Icke presents both a diagnosis of contemporary events (COVID-19, political upheavals, tech mega-donors) and a metaphysical theory of reality that encompasses reincarnation, astral entities, and the nature of consciousness. - The dialogue occasionally revisits Icke’s personal journey—from a BBC sports presenter to a public figure with a controversial worldview via experiences in Peru and a transformative encounter with a spiritual healer, Betty Shine—and uses those episodes to ground a broader, ongoing project to reveal what he sees as hidden structures of power and reality. - The conversation ends with a note that the discussion can continue in future encounters, and with a recommendation to watch The Human Antenna and to read The Roadmap for a deeper dive into these themes.

The speakers argue that a globalist “ supra government” or global cultist network, including pedophiles and satanists, runs the world and shapes major events. They say Epstein’s emails and texts reveal he is part of an informal structure that is deeply connected, “shorting the global financial crisis” and aware of political events before others, implying he’s more plugged in than US Senators, a secretary of state, or even the CIA director. They suggest Trump and Epstein are both pieces of this larger network, with Epstein offering a window into it. They reference the Bilderberg Group and Davos, claiming elite figures discuss how they will control lives in the coming years through artificial intelligence and other technologies. They describe a push toward total control through six-gig networks, biometric scanning, digital IDs, CBDCs, and pervasive digital tracking, portraying these developments as aimed at power and control over populations. They mention Rupert Murdoch and “tech oligarchs” as being far more powerful than Trump and effectively running the show. The discussion notes a broader trend toward state-level information and thought control, with technocratic themes like implanted chips and advanced AI as part of a future where control extends beyond current capabilities. They claim the overarching force behind these moves is a hidden elite structure operating across multiple levels of society. A quoted element from Kevin Shipp, a former CIA whistleblower, is cited to illustrate the supposed objective of the intelligence state: “the number one goal… if they know your thoughts, then they’ve won,” suggesting that knowledge of individual thoughts represents ultimate control. The speakers conclude that these “dark forces” are the driving power behind global events and policy directions, far more influential than individual political figures.

Welcome to another read-through. Today, we explore the troubling connections between Elon Musk and Jeffrey Epstein, particularly focusing on Musk's training in psychological manipulation through an Epstein-funded program. This investigation reveals how elite technocrats, including Musk, Bezos, and others, were trained to influence public behavior using behavioral economics techniques. Key figures like Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein introduced these methods, which are now employed by governments and corporations to control societal behavior without public awareness. The implications of this training are significant, as it raises questions about the ethics of such manipulation and the future of governance in a world increasingly dominated by technology and psychological operations. Join me as we dive deeper into this extraordinary story and its connections to the broader technocratic agenda shaping our society.

- Speaker 0 urges not to dismiss the discussion, noting that resurfaced CIA files and Epstein files have made certain topics more accepted. They say there was “transhumanism… engineering of humans potentially cloning,” which used to be dismissed as conspiracy theory but is now seen as real. They link these themes to those who rule over us, and observe that Epstein’s interests in vaccines and Bill Gates are echoed by figures like Musk, who say we need to be “one with the AI” and that perhaps everyone needs a brain chip. Speaker 0 claims Lisa and their research support this, and that the conversation is continuing. - Speaker 1 responds by affirming the importance of the point and recalling a deep past discussion about transhumanism. They describe it as a “very collective and very orchestrated plan of this evolution” that has been happening for centuries. They say it is an evolution by “a group of entities” or a “very high powered… influential group of individuals” who became an institution and decided that humanity needed to evolve. They ask who is deciding what an ordinary species is and what the mechanics and architectural blueprint are that advance that species, asserting that “we’re in that right now.” - Speaker 0 adds: “Right. We The people that are deciding what the advanced species needs to look like just so happen to all be friends with the pedophile by the looks of it.” - Speaker 1 concludes with “100%.”

The transcript presents a chaotic, highly inflammatory dialogue surrounding a new Epstein file drop and related conspiracy theories. Key elements include: - Breaking news framing: Speaker 0 introduces “three and a half million documents in the Epstein files” mentioning “Goyim, pizza, and grape soda.” Speaker 1 comments it probably has nothing to do with Israel, then jokes about “our greatest ally” and “who doesn’t like pizza.” - Perceived connections and content: The hosts repeatedly suggest or imply links between Epstein’s circle and Israel, with lines such as “What Israel posted on Twitter? Right. Age is just a number,” and “Mr. Space eat Clooney and Jay Z in the files, director Burke? They just like pizza and grape soda.” - Insults, slurs, and normalization of hate: Throughout, there are repeated antisemitic and bigoted phrases (e.g., “antisepetic,” “Ching Chong,” “Goyim,” “stupid Nazi,” “Jews,” “the satanic Jews,” and “you stupid Goyim”). Characters deny or minimize legitimacy of others’ concerns, often mixing conspiracy talk with outright hate speech. - Personal revelations and fabricated claims: The group cites various sensational claims about prominent figures (Elon Musk, Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak), Epstein’s alleged behavior, and a supposed “Pizzagate” arc. There are mentions of Epstein’s ties to a former Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, and “trained as a spy under him.” They refer to emails about pizza, adrenochrome, and sacrificed chickens, claiming these illustrate “total freaks.” - Media and public reaction: A segment asks “Let’s hear what the normies are saying,” with a range of responses that dismiss, support, or mock the conspiracy theories, including accusations of a Democrat hoax, and blanket dismissals of journalists or skeptics. - Transylvania segment and coded fantasies: Ching Chong reports live from Transylvania, discussing Dracula and Vlad the Impaler, linking it to Jewish iconography in a provocative, conspiratorial frame. - Meta-media banter and internal conflict: The group references internal disagreements, production notes, and attempts to steer the narrative, including quips about “the Epstein files have nothing to do with us” and a claim that “there is no Epstein list,” followed by arguments that “there’s a black book of Jeffrey Epstein contact.” - Broader conspiratorial atmosphere: Recurrent insinuations tie together Epstein, Podesta emails, Wayfair, and adrenochrome as evidence of systemic abuse. They claim “the FBI is not releasing” certain tapes and describe “the contacts… there is no evidence that any of those third parties were having girls trafficked to them,” while other speakers push opposite, more lurid interpretations. - Political tilt and rhetoric: The dialogue fractures along partisan lines, with references to Trumpstein, Biden, Obama, and a critique of the political establishment as a whole. There are calls to “stop murders” and “stop rapes,” alongside pledges to “flee to Israel” and dismissals of nonbelievers. - Closing frame: The program wraps with banter about shadow bans, algorithm performance, and a provocative exhortation to “learn more about the sentient AI” in a self-promotional tie-in, then a final jab at “divide the GOIAM.”

Speaker 0 asserts that Hollywood elites harvest the blood of young people and transfuse it to reverse aging, claiming the Epstein files reveal this is true. An email to Jeffrey Epstein is described as stating, “all you need is a blood transfusion from the pack and you reverse aging.” The discussion then ties adrenochrome to this idea, describing it as “a real chemical compound found in the blood when the body is in a fight or flight situation.” The claim is made that children involved in Jeffrey Epstein’s network were “definitely put into fight or flight.” The narrative references Chrissy Teigen allegedly tweeting about “a party where they’re serving up four year old cheese pizza with adrenochrome,” accompanied by the eye emoji. It is stated that, per FBI code words, “cheese” stands for a little girl and “pizza” stands for a girl. The conversation then returns to the email, naming the subject as Doctor Agus, described as a professor of medicine and biomedical engineering at USC, and noted as local to Hollywood. Doctor Agus is identified as the founding director and CEO of the Ellison Medical Institute, funded by Larry Ellison, the “new owner of TikTok.” The claim continues that Agus has hosted a Paramount show with celebrities like Ashton Kutcher and Oprah Winfrey. The speaker suggests that Hollywood and the elites have been using predictive programming to normalize the idea, citing Monsters, Inc. as an example—where monsters harvest screams from children to generate energy for their city—asserting that, in reality, the “monsters are a little less cartoon-like.” The speaker concludes by inviting viewers to share their thoughts on all of this in the comments.

The speaker recaps an investigation into the "Rumble influencer pipeline," starting with Steven Crowder, who is funded by several companies. Pure Talk sponsors numerous conservative figures and is owned by Tellrite Holdings, run by Reggie McFarland. Tax Network USA sponsors a wide range of figures, including those on Rumble, as well as Russell Brand, Dave Rubin, and Donald Trump Jr. Seventeen Seventy Five Coffee also sponsors similar figures. A wellness company sponsors Kimberly Guilfoyle, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, Megan Kelly, Michael Flynn, and others. These roll up to Colson Capital, owned by Foster Colson, which also owns Positive (sponsors Laura Loomer) and Alenco Labs. Colson Capital owns nanobiosym, a nanotech company with board members including Tenley Albright, Robert Langer (tied to Moderna, Koch, Pfizer, Unilever, Johnson & Johnson, and Eli Lilly), Ratan Intata, Homi Milan, and Paul Maritz. Nanobiosym is headed by Anita Goel, who has ties to Lockheed Martin, PepsiCo, the Air Force, DARPA, and other organizations, as well as John Kerry, Tony Blair, and Barack Obama's advisory council. The speaker suggests these figures are being paid to lie and plans to investigate Michael Shellenberger next.