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Glenn: Welcome back. We’re joined by professor Syed Mohammed Marandi, from Tehran University and former adviser to Iran’s nuclear negotiation team. Thank you for coming back. Marandi: Hi, Glenn. Thank you. It shows how much I like your show because I went through a lot of trouble to get online. Glenn: I appreciate it. Regarding the riots in Iran, Tehran included, it seems every time there’s a buildup to regime change or invasion, the script follows a pattern: first destabilize with sanctions and an information war, then build on public grievances and instigate violent protests. You announce the intention to help locals in their aspirations for freedom, with rhetoric reduced to a binary: either you don’t care about the protesters or you support sanctions or intervention. After a coup or invasion, the US and its allies have a zero-sum geopolitical interest and power interest, not altruism. The result, from the Arab Spring onward, is that the country to be liberated is destroyed. Iranian protests are an internal issue, but once international, geopolitics intrudes. How do you assess the situation on the ground in Tehran, domestic grievances, and the geopolitical component? Marandi: Western media and think tanks periodically declare Iran on the verge of collapse, but the state has popular support and a strong constitutional adherence. Currency suddenly fell—perhaps 30–50% in a brief period—and was managed from abroad, with pressure from the US and Western allies on currency-exchange places. Peaceful protests in Tehran and other cities followed mainly by business people whose shops were threatened by rising prices; if the currency isn’t stabilized, they’d go out of business. Protests continued into day two, with larger crowds in some cities. Then infiltration occurred: small, well-disciplined groups began to riot. Over the past days, over 100 officers were murdered, some beheaded or burned alive, some police faces smashed. A nurse in a clinic was burned alive in the top floor; ambulances and fire engines were burned; a Red Crescent worker was killed. Western media claims “protesters” and ignores footage. Across the country today, demonstrations in support of the Islamic Republic and the constitution were large—city by city like Isfahan, Tabriz, Ahvaz, Mashhad, Tehran. The crowd in Tehran was among the largest ever. Despite rioters, millions showed up in demonstrations across the country. The Iranian state’s media is outspent by a global Persian-language media empire in the West, with billions spent on online campaigns, bot armies, and networks. Yet millions demonstrated in support of the state. People can see the footage themselves. The internet was shut down to coordinate rioters across groups including ISIS-related elements, monarchists, and Kurdish groups. The rioters’ coordination collapsed when the internet went down. The regime’s supporters remain, and demonstrations in Tehran and across Iran show broad, diverse perspectives, all affirming support for the constitution and the state. Glenn: I’ve seen pro-government marches here as well; they’re huge, though not always covered in Europe. Marandi: There’s a narrative control to label the government illegitimate to topple it. The rhetoric claims Iranians are freedom-loving, yet those who claim to support them have bombs and blood. Pompeo’s tweet suggesting Mossad agents among protesters, and Mossad’s Persian-language statements, indicate foreign interference. The internet blackout aimed to prevent coordination among rioters; footage shows violent acts—two men burned in a mosque, a nurse burned in a clinic, ambulances and public buses destroyed. The “millions on the streets” claim is contradicted by the actuality of coordination via foreign paymasters. Glenn: Trump claimed Iran had fallen and would negotiate; is this about a new nuclear deal, stalled or about missiles and Iran’s regional support? What are Washington’s aims? Marandi: No one contacted him; his claim about the second-largest city falling is baseless. His ignorance shows inchoate knowledge of ground realities. Trump’s past statements about surrendering Iran suggest aims aligned with the Israeli regime’s goals: a broken West Asia and North Africa, fragmentation of states, and meddling across the region. Erdogan’s miscalculation—allying with Israel and Qatar—empowered Israeli policy at the expense of Turkey, Syria, Egypt, and Iran. The “woman, life, freedom” protests were initially fueled by Western narratives; BBC Persian and other outlets spread misinformation about Massa Amini, which was later corrected, but the cycle repeats. The West uses propaganda to push riots; Iran’s endurance of sanctions and propaganda demonstrates broad legitimacy for the Islamic Republic even amid external pressure. The demonstrations today show support for the state, the constitution, and Iran’s policies while denouncing the US, the Israeli regime, and their supporters. AOC’s stance and Trump’s stance reflect a uniparty tendency toward empire preservation. Glenn: Regarding potential war, Lindsey Graham floated strikes; how likely is war? Marandi: The currency manipulation aimed to justify instability for war. The CIA, Mossad, and others would seek to justify strikes, but Iran is prepared for war. If the US attacks, Iran may strike back; the population that stood with the state could unite in the face of aggression. Iran’s capabilities include underground drone and missile bases, short- to medium-range missiles, more easily moved than long-range missiles. Iran could devastate US installations if attacked. If war occurs, Iran could retaliate in the Persian Gulf and beyond, potentially impacting global economies. If the US begins, Iran could respond decisively, targeting American interests abroad and in the region. The Zionists allegedly favor war for their regional aims, regardless of Western consequences. Glenn: Professor Malandy, thank you for traveling and for the discussion. Marandi: Always a pleasure, Glenn.

Speaker 0: Were I a Jew, I would be a Zionist. And my father pointed out to me, I did not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist, for I am. Israel is essential to security of Jews worldwide. Speaker 1: That this is not theoretical. This is not just about things that happen on Twitter. Antisemitism kills. Hate kills. Speaker 2: I come before you not only as The United States Secretary of State, but also as a Jew. My grandfather, Maurice Blinken, fled pogroms in Russia. My stepfather, Samuel Pizar, survived concentration camps, Auschwitz, Dachau, Maidanic. Speaker 3: We have a common agenda to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and preventing Iran's aggression, maintaining the security and prosperity of this region, and seeking to expand the circle of peace. Speaker 4: On October 7, Hamas terrorists murdered nearly 1,200 people, including over 40 Americans, and kidnapped hundreds of civilians. They perpetrated the deadliest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Speaker 5: Holocaust. Holocaust. My grandfather fled Nazi Germany. Fled Nazi Germany. If we wanna create peace in the Middle East, resolve the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, we don't need boycotts. We need business. We don't need divestment. We need investment. We don't need sanctions. We need startups. We need startups. They met with several Israeli companies looking to expand into The United States. Speaker 1: Actual, literal, no shit, Jews will not replace us anti Semites as very fine people. Speaker 6: I support Israel's ability to defend itself. Speaker 7: It's about time we stop those of us who support as most of us do, Israel and this body for apologizing for our support for Israel. There's no apology to be made. None. It is the best $3,000,000,000 investment we make. $3,000,000,000 investment we make. Speaker 8: two of us were brought together by Apex Education Foundation for a mission to Israel. We hear the call of our Jewish brothers and sisters. Israel was this place I had always felt an, I don't know, unexplainable pull. Speaker 5: And the Jewish people have been the recipients of boycotts for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Speaker 6: So I just had a frank and constructive meeting with prime minister Netanyahu. I told him that I will always ensure that Israel is able to defend itself, including from Iran and Iran backed militias such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Speaker 3: Israelis do not need to be lectured about the importance of peace by foreign leaders. Speaker 9: Why does Israel need our help? We need to get out of their way. Speaker 6: I've said it many times, but it bears repeating. Israel has a right to defend itself. Speaker 2: The message that I bring to Israel is this. You may be strong enough on your own to defend yourself, but as long as America exists, you will never ever have to. We will always be there by your side. Speaker 1: He is a friend of the Jewish people by aligning not even with Israel, but with a certain kind of politics within Israel. And I just think that the American Jewish community are a lot smarter than that. Speaker 7: And even suggested breaking from the long standing US policies on settlements. Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Speaker 9: I was one of the few in congress that said it's none of our business, and Israel should take care of themselves. Speaker 8: Perhaps he does not know that I am the child of a holocaust survivor. Perhaps he does not know that my mother lost almost all her family at the hands of the Nazis. At the hands of the Nazis. Speaker 9: Israel has 200, 300 nuclear missiles, they can take care of themselves. Why should we commit? We don't even have a treaty with Israel. We don't even have a treaty with Israel. Speaker 7: Were there not an Israel, The United States Of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region. Speaker 9: Why why do we have this automatic commitment that we're gonna send our kids and send our money endlessly, to to Israel?

Speaker 0: So what do you think about the use of artificial intelligence or Lavender by the IDF in identifying Hamas targets? And secondly, do you agree with Elon Musk about that the population decline is a risk for humanity? Speaker 1: Look, I again, I'm not I'm not, you know, with without without going into all the you know, I I'm I'm not on top of all the details of what's going on in Israel because my my bias is to defer to Israel. It's it's not for us to to second guess every everything. And I I believe that broadly the IDF gets to decide what it wants to do and that they're broadly in the right. And that's that's sort of the the perspective I come back to and

Mr. Benjamin Nakae. Mr. Nakae, welcome to the Advocate. Thank you. Mr. Nakae is a graduate of MIT. He is an Israeli, and he is a man who has written widely on this question before the house tonight.

Speaker 1 frames his connection to Israel: 'For two thousand years, we were a stateless people. And now we have a country of our own, defended by all the brave men and women of the IDF.' He highlights Israel's tech scene: 'after Silicon Valley, there's an area it hurts Herzliya has probably got more startups than any other place other than Silicon Valley in Northern California.' He notes Oracle's Israeli ties: 'we have two CEOs at Oracle' and 'Safra Katz, and she was born in Israel.' He asserts support: 'So again, we love the country of Israel, and we'll do everything we can to support the country of Israel.' Regarding Gaza criticism, he says: 'it's a difficult situation,' but adds that 'the Israeli army did everything they could to minimize civilian casualties' and that they've 'done a much better job than a lot of other armies all over the world throughout history.'

The discussion opens with Speaker 0 noting that the first foreign visit by a New York City mayor is significant and asks where each candidate would go first. Speaker 1 (Cuomo) replies, “First visit, I would visit The Holy Land.” Speaker 2, addressing hostility and antisemitism in New York, adds, “Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.” Speaker 0 then directs the question to Speaker 2 (Tilson). Tilson responds, “Yeah. I’d make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.” Speaker 0 moves to Speaker 3 (Mamdani), who says, “I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.” Speaker 4 interjects with a follow-up to Mamdani: “Mister Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel… as mayor?” Mamdani answers that as mayor, “I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers, I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform because, ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.” The conversation then covers a direct question: “And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?” Mamdani replies, “I believe Israel has the right to exist.” Speaker 4 counters, “Not Israel. State?” Mamdani responds, “Notice. As a state with equal rights.” Speaker 1 presses Mamdani further, noting, “He won't he won't say it has a right to exist. Does a Jewish state be very clear?” Speaker 2 adds, “Answer was no. He won't visit Israel.” Mamdani claims, “I I said that That's what he was trying to say. No. Unlike you, I answered unlike you, I answered the question directly. Alright.” The conversation then shifts to Speaker 5, who shares a personal rationale: “My my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family, and it could coincide with my young son, Miles, bar mitzvah, if you'd like to have his bar mitzvah.” Speaker 2 interjects briefly, “Okay. But” before the excerpt ends.

Speaker 0 expresses a view on religion and national character, saying: “if a country doesn't have religion, doesn't have faith, doesn't have God, it's gonna be very hard to be a good country.” He adds, “This It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians.” He states, “I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian.” He admits doubt about heaven: “I don't think there's anything gonna get me in heaven. Okay? I really don't. I think I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly an air force, but I'm not sure I I'm gonna be able to make heaven.” He claims to have been “really saved” by “somebody very special,” and repeats: “A high beak. A high beak. A high beak.” Speaker 1 recounts the presidential oath ceremony: “When US President Donald Trump took its oath of office, he had his right hand raised, but his left wasn't on the Bible. But does it matter? Academics tell Reuters that it was an oversight and it doesn't have much practical impact, although the moment has gone viral online.” A professor is quoted that “the oath is to the constitution.” He notes that “Two bibles were held by Trump's wife Melania as she stood next to him at the ceremony.” Speaker 2 presents claims about Trump’s faith: “Trump converted to Judaism two years ago and joined Chabad Lubavitch Synagogue in New York City according to a high level White House official.” A figure named Mister Goldberg says the story has allegedly been held by CNN's editors for months, but will be released soon. David Elias Goldberg, a fellow at the Jewish Center of Antisemitic Study, has also interviewed the White House source. The source says Trump was pushed by Ivanka and Jared Kushner to join the faith; Trump initially resisted, fearing it would threaten his evangelical Christian base, but then changed his mind and “officially converted in early two thousand seventeen.” The ceremony was private and guarded for nearly two years. The White House appears prepared to release this information gradually, and by summer, Trump is expected to address his new faith in an evening televised news conference. He is described as “the most pro Israel president in the history of America,” having given Israel “every single thing that they wanted,” and being “about to give them war with Iran.” The question is raised: “Has he converted?” A Times of Israel article is cited: “Trump, the first Jewish president of The United States.” It is emphasized: “Now that's not us saying that. That's times of Israel.” The discussion notes that Times of Israel is a Jewish nation, and that “these people do like Israel.” Speaker 0 interjects: “Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.” Speaker 3 adds: “And he loves Israel too. Six years ago, I was up here. And I said, this is our first Jewish president. This is our first Jewish president. This is our first Jewish president. Not not consecutive. We”—and then Speaker 0 closes with: “thank you for everything, Joel. We thank you for everything.”

The speaker discusses Alexis Wilkins, CEO of PragerU, suggesting a connection to Kash Patel. Wilkins, originally Marissa Street, was born in Los Angeles but moved to Israel at a young age. She received her primary education in Israel and then served in military intelligence unit 8200 of the IDF. Unit 8200 is described as the most advanced global cyber team. The speaker sarcastically suggests Wilkins' relationship with Patel is genuine and denies any possibility of her being his handler.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 where he is from, and Speaker 1 replies that he is from Israel and served in the IDF. Speaker 1 mentions not counting how many Palestinians he has encountered and talks about Gaza disappearing. Speaker 0 inquires if Speaker 1 has ever seen a Palestinian child, to which Speaker 1 responds that he has seen 5 and jokes about looking inexperienced.

Speaker 0 raises two questions: first, what is the view on the use of artificial intelligence or Lavender by the IDF in identifying Hamas targets; second, whether they agree with Elon Musk about population decline being a risk to humanity. Speaker 1 responds: “Look, I again, I'm not I'm not, you know, with without without going into all the deep you know, I I'm I'm not on top of all the details of what's going on in Israel because my my bias is to defer to Israel. It's it's not for us to to second guess every everything. And I I believe that broadly the IDF gets to decide what it wants to do and that they're broadly in the right and that's that's sort of the the perspective I come back to.”

Okay Emily, I would love to hear your take on everything that has been discussed so far. For those of you that don't know me, I speak a lot about antisemitism. I even try to bring Israel into the conversation. I know that's not what we're talking about here, but I do a lot of public speaking to combat antisemitism. I actually joined this room because I've spoken for ADL at events as a freelancer. We see eye to eye on some issues, and I feel like it's important to speak up in times of antisemitism.

The speaker addresses the use of artificial intelligence or Lavender by the IDF in identifying Hamas targets. They state they are not on top of all the details of what’s happening in Israel and that their bias is to defer to Israel. They say it’s not for us to second guess everything. They conclude that broadly the IDF gets to decide what it wants to do and that they’re broadly in the right.

My name is Ritchie Torres, also known as Richie Torah. I represent Riverdale in the Bronx. Today, I'm here to defend the US-Israel relationship, which is a fundamental American value.

Distinguished guests, the prime minister of the Republic of India is next.

Speaker 0 asserts that they have never taken money from the Israel lobby and asks if Speaker 1 has. Speaker 1 clarifies that APAC raises a lot of money for him, but emphasizes that the fundraisers are individuals, not the PAC itself, meaning it’s a misnomer to say the PAC raises money. He describes APAC as an American lobby and explains that APAC stands for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. He admits APAC is not a “foreign lobby” and says its purpose is not effectively defined as a single objective. He states his own entry into Congress thirteen years ago with the goal of being the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate and says he has worked every day to that end. He notes that APAC is sometimes more effective than he wishes and then characterizes APAC as “a fever swamp of terrified of APAC.” Speaker 0 challenges the idea that APAC lobbies on behalf of the Israeli government, insisting that APAC lobbies for a foreign government. Speaker 1 responds that APAC is not lobbying for a foreign government; it is lobbying for a strong US–Israel relationship and for America and Israel to be closely allied. Speaker 0 maintains that APAC is lobbying for the interests of another country and reiterates that it is not true that APAC has nothing to do with the government. Speaker 0 asks about how much contact APAC leaders have with the government of Israel, and Speaker 1 acknowledges some contact, suggesting that the government of Israel is often frustrated with APAC, and asks whether they talk. He compares the situation to lobbying for more US–Mexico trade, noting that one would talk to both sides. Speaker 0 accepts that there are many countries that lobby Washington, including Israel, and expresses familiarity with how lobbying works, including knowing Americans who lobby on behalf of foreign governments and even being related to some. The central question for Speaker 0 is not whether foreign governments lobby the United States, but why it isn’t admitted as a common practice. He states that it’s true that many countries lobby Washington, including Israel, and asks why they aren’t registered as foreign lobbies. Speaker 1 responds that they are not registered as such.

Good afternoon, everyone. I apologize for not introducing myself earlier. My name is Mark Anthony Thomas.

Speaker 0: America's future requires everyone's participation. We are fortunate to have people like George Soros, who fearlessly steps up when it matters. Let's welcome George Soros.

Speaker thanks Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of the state of Israel. They promise we'll one day have a close relationship between Venezuela and Israel. I, myself, look forward to visiting the state of Israel as soon as we conquer freedom. We will prevail. And I can announce this that our government will move our Israeli embassy to

Speaker 0 explains that Netanyahu evokes Jewish history in his religious text and sentiment to rally support for attacks, and that Nurode explains this increases right-wing sentiment in Israel. Speaker 1 notes that when Netanyahu announced the offensive against Iran, he did not just discuss threats but invoked Jewish history, drawing parallels with Jews rising up against Persian enslavement more than two thousand years ago. Speaker 2 adds: “My brothers and sisters, in two days, we celebrate the holiday of Purim. Two thousand five hundred years ago in ancient Persia, an enemy rose against us with the exact same goal of destroying our people.” Speaker 1 continues: “A day later, Netanyahu invoked scripture describing the government in Tehran as Amalek, the ultimate enemy in the Old Testament, the enemy whose memory and existence must be erased.” Speaker 2: “We read in this week's Torah portions. Remember what Amalek did to you. We remember and we act.” Speaker 1 remarks that this is not the first time Netanyahu has used the Amalek reference to justify violence against an adversary. In fact, his reference to Palestinians as Amalek was cited during hearings in the genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. Speaker 0 states that inciting religious fervor is not unique to Netanyahu; it’s a popular tactic among right-wing and populist leaders to rally support, and it often pays off. She cites opinion polls to illustrate how widespread these sentiments are: a Hebrew University poll on Israel’s war on Gaza found 75% of Jewish Israelis believe there are no innocence in Gaza; a survey by the Institute for National Security released last month shows 78% of Israelis consider Iran a serious threat. Speaker 1 adds that mixing scripture with mainstream politics is playing with fire and has led to talk of a greater Israel spanning from the Euphrates to the Nile River and erasing existing Arab countries in the process, an ambition referenced not only by Netanyahu but also by the head of the opposition in Israel. Speaker 0 concludes with the attribution: Jahan Bin.

Speaker 0: The discussion turns to how long you plan to stay in public life. Speaker 1: I don’t measure it by time, but by missions and tasks. I’m supported by a great majority of the people in the country, and that support comes despite foreign reporting. That is why I keep winning elections. When people say I might be a king, I respond that I’m not a king—I have to get elected, for God’s sake. I have great support at home: my wife is incredible, she’s a lioness; my two boys support me; and the people support me. Speaker 0: What do they support you for? Speaker 1: They want me to complete the quest for peace. They understand that I really liberated Israel’s economy from stagnant semi-socialism to become one of the most remarkable founts of creativity, innovation, and technology in the world. We have unbelievable technology today, and we now have an opportunity. Israel was a country with $17,000 per capita when I took over as foreign minister; I had a brief stint there. Today it’s going to cross $60,000 per capita. It’s still a way to go, but that’s a change that no country experienced because of the free market revolution that I introduced here. Speaker 0: There’s a sense of an upcoming revolution. Speaker 1: I see a much greater revolution coming. It’s here, it’s not coming; it’s already here. All the wondrous technologies we have—some of them are very frightening. I’ve talked to the leaders of AI in the world, and you ask yourself, there are so many blessings in this, but there could be a curse. The task is to challenge it, or to channel it into the blessings that Israel can give itself and the world. I think there’s another revolution coming, and I tend to steer it along with the achievement of a broader peace. These are two enormous tasks that I’d like to take on. And when history is within reach, you don’t step aside; you step forward. And that’s what I’m doing.

Speaker asserts that Iran is the chief of staff of the foreign ministry, and proceeds to share a development. I a decade ago when I started this, I had a vision of establishing an ambassador program to commission impostors to become ambassadors for the state of Israel. I wrote the curriculum, and just in the last month, the prime minister of Israel has approved the program. He's gonna sign the diplomas. He's gonna speak at the graduation. And the chief of staff here is going to be flying the pastors to Israel for this this ceremony. So he's he's our partner in this new initiative, this ambassador program.

Speaker 0: America's future requires everyone's participation. We are fortunate to have people like George Soros who fearlessly step up when it matters. Please welcome George Soros. It's the first time I feel compelled to get involved in the electoral process in this country.

The speaker says his male team is in Israel, and as he finishes, he came back to Israel to tell the audience that he served them as the mayor, but he wants to continue to hold a title that matters more to him than anything: being their brother. He expresses gratitude: “Thank you. Thank you. You, sir.”

Benjamin Netanyahu is in Washington DC at 3 AM, waiting to meet with Steve Witcalf, the US envoy to The Middle East.

Our next witness is Donald Trump, a well-known figure in real estate, sports, gaming, and entertainment industries. We appreciate his presence and his extensive experience. Despite the credit crunch our nation is facing, Mr. Trump has been involved and can provide valuable insights. We thank him for his patience and look forward to learning from his experiences.