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Speaker 0 outlines his first bill, the no shutdown paychecks to politicians act, which would say members of Congress can’t be paid and won’t receive back pay after a shutdown ends. He asks unanimous consent for immediate consideration, reading, and passage of the bill, with the motion to reconsider laid on the table.
Speaker 1 asks if there is objection.
Speaker 2 argues for an approach that would begin paying those who are working during a shutdown—soldiers, air traffic controllers, and all workers—stating this should become a permanent feature of government. He says paying workers is better than isolating or punishing groups and asks that the Senate modify the request to consider, read, and pass Senator Paul’s alternative. He references Senator Johnson’s shutdown no shutdown act as an alternative and asks to replace the current bill with that.
Speaker 0 responds, explaining he will not substitute Senator Paul’s bill for his own. He says he understands Senator Paul’s point as wanting to pay everyone, but explains his bill has a chance to pass the House and be signed by the president, whereas Senator Paul’s bill would not pass the House or be signed by President Trump. He states this is why he cannot substitute Paul’s bill. He then asks for a parliamentary clarification: did Senator Paul object to his bill, and would Paul’s modification substitute his bill? The chair confirms that Paul’s modification would substitute his bill for the original.
Speaker 1 asks if there is an objection to the original request.
Speaker 2 (from Kentucky) reserves the right to object and argues it is not clear that the president wouldn’t sign a bill to continue paying federal workers. He says it’s confusing that Democrats object to paying traffic controllers and suggests letting Democrats explain why they don’t want to pay workers. He asserts there is a debate over spending levels, but that workers who have contracts should be paid. He mentions his own fiscal conservatism, stating he would not hire new people and would allow government shrink through attrition, but asserts that those who work for the government should be paid. He contends that Democrats' subsidies to higher earners are inconsistent with helping the working class or the poor and argues that the president would sign a bill to pay workers.
Speaker 0 disputes, arguing the bill to keep Congress from being paid during a shutdown is different from Paul’s.
Speaker 1 clarifies that Senator Paul objected to the bill and that the objection to the unanimous consent request stands.
Speaker 0 introduces a second bill, the withhold member pay during shutdowns act, which would withhold lawmakers’ pay during a shutdown but escrow it to be paid after the shutdown ends. He notes there is precedent from Obama in 2013. He seeks unanimous consent for Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs to be discharged from further consideration of S. 3057, and asks that the Senate proceed to immediate consideration, with reading, passage, and a tabled motion to reconsider.
Speaker 2 objects with the objection noted. Speaker 1 acknowledges the objection from the Kentucky senator.
Speaker 0 attempts clarification on the bill to withhold member pay, and Speaker 1 confirms the objection to the unanimous consent request. The scene ends with the discussion in progress on the second bill.